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Let's talk about the Gateway Tapes.

If you don't know: they are audio tracks that you listen to with headphones, the sound in each of your ears is slightly different which causes the synchronization of the two hemispheres of your brain to glitch.

They are useful to easily reach hypnagogia (what LOA anons call "state akin to sleep").
They are also used by some reality-shifters to reach the "void" from which they can shift to any other reality.

Some exercises are about remote viewing, communicating with non-physical beings, healing yourself, having out of body experiences / astral projection, and even manifesting ("patterning").
I personally haven't succeeded yet in manifesting anything with them, but some people claim they did.
However I cured my old deep-water-phobia with them.

They also sometimes unexpectedly give you random hallucinations, sometimes only visual and weak, sometimes more like lucid dreams. Of course don't expect something very deep, it's not like taking drugs, but it's funny anyway.

https://mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg/folder/o1UE0ZwK
Start with wave 1 tape 1 and do them in order. Don't rush.

Now a question for those who know better than me: are we supposed to do the "one month patterning" tape only once then wait for a month to see if something happens, or do it again and again for a month? This is something that I never was sure about...
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>>41985789
>However I cured my old deep-water-phobia with them.
Good, you got something out of it then.

>They also sometimes unexpectedly give you random hallucinations, sometimes only visual and weak, sometimes more like lucid dreams.
Yep, I don't use them as much, but hypnagogia and hypnopompia are now a regular occurrence in my life again. It is slowly spreading to an increasing number of senses.

>which causes the synchronization of the two hemispheres of your brain to glitch.
That belief is probably your primary reason you haven't really gotten much out of it. If you believe all it does is brain hacking, that's all you get.

Entity encounters are what I normally get with Hemi-Sync. It doesn't appear to be all that common. Having dreams of helping people pass on is nice though, except for the ones that die traumatic deaths. They have to die a second time.
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>>41986348
>That belief is probably your primary reason you haven't really gotten much out of it. If you believe all it does is brain hacking, that's all you get.
Can you please tell me more?

>Entity encounters
I sometimes see beings appear while in focus 12 and asking for a communication, but I always fail to communicate with them, either they ignore me and go, or they seem to listen but don't answer and go. At best I feel deep vibrations through my body, maybe it's their language, but I don't understand it. So I consider these just hallucinations.

(And thanks for saving my thread btw, it was about to die.)
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I tried the tapes once and ended up in a sleep like state until the tapes tape ended and when I woke up I got paranoid that I had downloaded glownigger instructions into my brain and never tried it again
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>>41985789
watch vids on Dr Andrija Puharich
it's a main dark rabbit hole and is directly linked to these tapes, people, tech and more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAywIDvfPw0
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Is the megalink dolphin porn?
Is it hijacked mindrape tapes?
Is it copyright bait that sends the cyber police after you?
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>>41985789
I struggle getting into Focus 10 without the tapes.
Also the advanced REBAL with the spiraling flow is hard to visualize and get a feel for. Any tips?
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Can I mix these tapes with DMT?
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I have not listened to these tapes (yet), but yesterday I read about remote viewing and coincidentally last night I was dreamng and in the dream I tried remote viewing (non-lucid). Well, I don't know if it worked but I saw something outside but the dream ended when I decided to remote view the inside of an UFO. I saw something that represented aluminium foil in the shape of the inside-wall of some kind of craft, then I felt this intense fear and felt like I was commanded not to look there, I woke up feeling chills down my spine, still feeling that fear. I'm sure it's just my subconscious's making, but it was an interesting and scary experience.
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>>41988894
Oh and it seems like I have downloaded the gateway tapes at some point last year, I'll give it a listen this evening.
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>>41986431
>either they ignore me and go, or they seem to listen but don't answer and go
It's because you're kinda in a state of stasis, and they don't really feel any need to interact with a being that is effectively like talking to a stone statue. Also, most spirits don't really care about the affairs or efforts of souls still stuck in a mortal coil, no more than you or I would take interest in a random commuter when driving.
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>>41988930
Can I fix that?

(One day as I was floating in a bubble above some alien jungle an entity appeared, it looked like a gigantic statue of some god. I asked it questions and I was upset because it did not answer. Then it seemed to find me annoying and swallowed me, I dissolved inside it and rematerialized elsewhere. It was probably just a nonsensical hallucination, or was it?)
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>>41986348
>>41986431
how do you reach that point, focus 12 or whatever, where you actually encounter entities? So far it feels like it boils down to imagination: the preparation techniques, the floating like a log thing, etc.
Are you imagining those beings? Genuine question cause I want to meet entities as well but if there's any small doubt of having imagined/faked them, my experience is ruined
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>>41986447
This right here. I suspect they may have a hypno-programming payload and I am too afraid to try again. Monroe was literally doing this stuff on CIA and other people including Joe McMoneagle of SRI.
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>>41988894
>then I felt this intense fear
Had a similar experience, I assumed it's more likely something of an error message. I wonder if this happens if you try to view something that isn't even there to begin with.
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I used other methods in the past besides gateway tapes, but whenever I left my body I never saw my body lying there, vision was kinda blurry, and I got yeeted back into my body quickly so I couldnt explore much.
any ideas how I can fix this?
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>>41989558
>how do you reach that point
First I put my body asleep, focus 10, until I don't feel it anymore at all. Soon I stop feeling gravity, I know I was laying on my back but I can't tell anymore, I could as well be standing or head down. Then I imagine myself spreading and going far away, leaving my body and leaving this world, which I am not sure is focus 12, but that is when I "encounter" entities.
I don't actively imagine them, I ask for help or ask for communication then I stop thinking about anything, I totally empty my mind, and I let things happen, and sometimes pictures come. I consider them just hallucinations, but I don't know. Some anon in some thread once said that this could be out of body experiences and real entities. To talk to them I don't use words, I talk with thoughts, but they don't seem to understand either.
There were rare times when maybe they understood. The best one must be that time I had a pain in my stomach for weeks, I was afraid it was a hernia and I did not want to have a surgery, so I asked to be healed. I first felt like I was in some vehicle traveling fast, then I found myself walking in a corridor in some sort of hospital, then I entered a room, I was laying but not on a surgery table, more like at the dentist, and a sort of extraterrestrial took something and did something to my stomach. I was looking at the room, noticing how everything was consistent and stable, not changing like in dreams. After a moment, the extraterrestrial stopped, put some tool away in a drawer, and went, with no expression. No good bye, no nothing. A sort of voice was telling me that it was over, he was going to care about his next patient and I was free to go. The funny thing is that I was cured indeed, my stomach pain totally disappeared that night and did not come back. Maybe a coincidence, maybe placebo effect. This type of things make me doubt if these are really just hallucinations.
These days I am trying to do it again, to fix a gum issue.
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>am fat fuck
>slowly losing weight, but I still have sleep apnea
Which I’m pretty sure is keeping me from focus 10, because last time I felt like I had to gasp for air. Am I overreacting, or am I just actually fucked until I’m not a fat sack of shit anymore?
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>>41989300
>>41989558
>how do you reach that point, focus 12 or whatever, where you actually encounter entities?
I'm no help on that front. It came naturally to me. Disc 1, Track 1 was enough to re-enable that sense in my case. I've gone under cycles where I'd relearn OBE, then totally forget about it as I grew up. I have five of those cycles and each time it got longer. It kinda terrified these entities that I'd permanently forget. I also foresee that risk because I am in the process of getting promoted and the work hours get longer.

I don't think it's that common for people to have a profound effect like that. I've no other case studies similar to that. To give you an idea of how the relationships feel, it's like they watched me drown in a sea of souls, and now they're trying really hard to pull me back out. The main issue? I'm the one in the way. I have to learn to swim on my own. They can help, but I have to meet them halfway so they can throw that life preserver.

Given the circumstances, I am totally owed a solid punch to the face from the primary guide that observes everything I do. Most would've given up by now.
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>>41985789
bump so i can read thread
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>>41988911
share that shit, jogga
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>>41994191

Not him but here's the link, also suggest the Expand App (by Monroe Institute, has a timer with different binurals without instructions for different focus levels, more advanced than hemisync because it uses gamma waves) You can also have the binurals on with other things, last night I listened to an audiobook on Focus 10 and had a Wake Induced Lucid Dream where the audiobook was instructing everything and the synchronicities were beautiful (good books to try this with are very poetic/lyrical books IE Virginia Woolf's The Waves)

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1IVg2Y6YE-K1z1Kc3z5u5GarTWG4bi2gT?sort=13&direction=a
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>>41994221

Also try the first book of Prousts in search of lost time series Swanns Way
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>>41994224

Another one is Thomas Mann 'The Magic Mountain'. If you really want to be advanced galantamine (anti alzhimers drug) plus a choline source (choline biterate) and ALPHA GPC will help significantly when trying to astral project or remote view, but galantamine is really the ticket. You can get it online from any virtual pharmacy just tell them you abused anticholinergics like Benadryl and unisom a lot and want to fix your acetylcholine receptors or whatever. Thomas Yuschack has a book on it Advanced Supplements and Lucid Dreaming that is very useful, also talks about the utility of nicotinic receptors and sleeping with nicotine patches on. Even though it says lucid dreaming it's still very useful for OBE
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>>41994236

If you have trouble falling asleep after the galantamine get on Dayvigo (has a ton of other benefits as well) its a dual oxiren antagonist which basically forces you into sleep without the cholinergic effects. Very very easy to go into a body asleep mind awake state with Dayvigo and Galantamine and if you have issues sleeping in general Dual oxiren antagonists are great and have procognitive benefits as well (same with Galantamine)
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>>41994236

Here's the book I mentioned https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Thomas%20Yuschak%20-%20Advanced%20Lucid%20Dreaming%20The%20Power%20of%20Supplements.pdf

Remember even though it says Lucid Dreaming this stuff is very relevant to all types of OBE phenomena
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>>41994221
Wait, so you could write a script, turn it into audio with an AI voice, and listen to it while in focus10 and experience it as a lucid dream? That sounds awesome! 8|
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>>41994456

It's more for schizos like me who see synchronicities in everything, when I read old lyrical books (especially by authors interested in the occult) I feel like they're talking to me. But you can do whatever you want that's just what I've been doing recently.
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>>41994221
Thanks anon
I'm going to check them out this weekend
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>>41985789
What’s that scene in FLCL with eyebrows
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>>41995828
?
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Can I take a break between each tape? Between each wave? Or do I need to do them all back to back in a single day for this to work?
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>>41998462
You want to get a better feel for the concepts, not rush through them. Doing a whole wave in one day sounds ineffective. Just don't fall completely out of practice for like a month+. I think it's normal to go back to old tapes to review a bit as well.

Everyone has their own pace, I'm taking it slow because I want to try mastering each step first.
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>>41985789
i kinda want to use them but i'm also suspicious of them being a psyop and containing subconscious programming.
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>>41998727
same since i've see this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGbC9W64H3A

what do you anons think ?
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>>41998742
The aum shinrikyo's headset was a crappy EEG BCI, fundamentally not the same thing as a $10 pair of headphones you'd use for Gateway. He also misreads the patent and forces his own idea, which is fundamentally not what it's describing (it's basically brainwave to symbol translation). If you believe that Gateway is a mind control experiment, you're free to believe that, but the Youtube video has extremely easy to counter points.
His appeal to authority is also goofy. "I worked in AI" is kind of a fundamentally different subject matter, to the point where I doubt his credentials if he thinks it's relevant here.
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>>41999111
thanks anon, i just want to be sure there isn't any credibility to his claim.
i rather not get myself blasted with cia programming lol.
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>>41998742
They encourage you to leave your body and meet demons. I'm sure many of you already have demons in your periphery waiting for a slip up like this. The psyop was getting high IQ children in GATE to dissociate and become paranoid/possessed.
I would advise against RV with the tapes if you feel insecure about it. The frequencies are unique and spirits recognize them more and more.
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>>41999132
>leave your body and meet demons
muh demons.
i think that if you want to protect yourself from demon you are much better off being aware and capable of seing them than trying to burry your head in the sand.

tapes being possibly compromised is one thing, being scared of oobe / RV as a whole is another.
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>>41999125
Regarding the second patent in the video, he was being a retard and outright misinterpreted it. That being said, the first patent he mentioned about recorded brainwaves being used to construct the tapes.. I'm still trying to find it.

If you're worried, there are hemisync-like audio files other people made, or you can just read a book and meditate like a monk which is cool too. Just please don't zap your brain with a homebrewed device like the guy suggests, lol.
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>>41999132
>The psyop was getting high IQ children in GATE
People in the GATE program were not necessarily intelligent in the traditional sense, so I wouldn't conflate it with IQ.
>to dissociate and become paranoid/possessed.
The tapes start out with self defense mechanisms and if you're religious it's not something you'd worry about since you have your own protections you could apply.
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>>41999156
>don't zap your brain with a homebrewed device
oh yea i'd never try that.

i kinda want to make an opensource version of the tape, where the audio is generated by code everyone can see.
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>>41999132
>They encourage you to leave your body and meet demons.
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>>41985789
Where's the trance remix??
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>>41998742
I worked in AI is the new I'm a redditor
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>>41990385
That's so cool, thanks. But don't you have like more deep/spiritual matters to ask about than body aches?

Also were those first pictures stable, when the entities did not answer? Did they feel as real as the alien one, can you liken them to hypnagogia?
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>>41985789
Aren't these just binaural beats?
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>>41999506
Basically, but tailored for OBE

Also, I can't seem to listen to binaural beats or the gateway tapes. I get tinnitus, on any volume?? How do I fix this and why is this happening
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>>41985789
Reminder that:
- the tapes do not work as intended
- Monroe huffed glue and solvents for a year before having his experiences

>>41986348
if something works it will alter your consciousness whether you like it or not. The tapes do not work

>>41999583
the tapes actually have barely any binaural beats, or their volume is too low anyway
not like binaural beats do anything relevant at the end of the day
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>>42000238
werks for me
Won't work for everyone, free to explore other methods or similar efforts.
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>>42000238
>Monroe huffed glue and solvents
source?
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>>41999236
(I'm OP) I actually looked for it but it seems to be just a funny picture someone made.
About a month ago I tried to listen to goa trance tracks at same time as the tapes though. The first two times it did not work, it kept me from accessing focus 10, I was disappointed and about to give up. Then the third time it worked, probably because I did it right after a normal tape session so I could access focus 10/12 again more easily. For it was a track with vocal samples from an old tv program about UFOs and extraterrestrials it made me have a funny hallucination: I was inside the old star wars racer video game, but racing against grey aliens in their flying saucer, around the local pond of my village. Which was very funny. But then the picture started to flicker, as if three different videos were trying to play in my head at same time. In the second one I was also racing but in space. I don't remember what was the third one. Then the vibrations became very strong, stronger than either. Then my body started to shake. And at the end, my body was shaking exactly like when you have an epilepsy stroke. So it seems dangerous.
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>>41999132
>They encourage you to leave your body and meet demons.
Yeah, well, guess what homie you're going to be forced to leave your body eventually and meet demons. Might as well get prepared for that.
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>>41995828
The thick ones?
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>>41999425
I usually ask for help and guidance, but I never receive any answer that I understand. That time with the stomach ache was one of the only times when they may have understood me.

These only last a few seconds at most, then either I go away, or the entity goes away, or the picture just disappear. The alien one lasted for minutes and was very stable. They feel as real but shorter. Yes, I think these are linked to hypnagogia because to me these are probably hallucinations or dreams as if I was dreaming but still awake. They feel different than dreams though.
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>>42000405
>and another
Don't stop there, anon
It was just getting interesting. That's a lot of glue huffing.
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>>42000761
I have done these and many other guided meditations. I have explored different realms sober and tripping balls. I prefer exploring these places alone and I don't gain anything from the beings. I just pray to our god above all others to be closer to and I can enter a blissful emptiness. When different characters get introduced they become dangerous unknowns with different associations to lesser deities and human traits. The monks who engage with them write less about transcending duality.

I am a victim of government abduction and nonconsensual experiments and I've had a life riddled with people trying to evoke my subservience to "guides" so they can pretend to be them. Christ is king.
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(OP) I repeat my question because it was ignored:
>are we supposed to do the "one month patterning" tape only once then wait for a month to see if something happens, or do it again and again for a month? This is something that I never was sure about...
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>>are we supposed to do the "one month patterning" tape only once then wait for a month to see if something happens, or do it again and again for a month? This is something that I never was sure about...

Do it as much as you want, more the better.
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>>42000405
A bit odd but how is this supposed to shame him? The altered state of consciousness he was in is as real as any other altered state - it's about chemicals through the body that unleash channels which are not usually active. Does death matter how it comes? It's still death. How does this tarnish his reputation?

I actually kind of want to know the brand of glue he sniffed now
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>>42008333
What?
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>>41986565
>>41985789
It's so hard to trust these new age 70's figures. All this stuff happening during the development of psyoperations on us citizens. These sri, pear, parapsychology figures are so closely connected. geller the 6 day vet, putoff, puharich, swann, price, mcmoneagle etc. How much is bs, how much is true discovery, hold much is americanized/modern tech overlayered onto eastern practice
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>>42008333
>guy sells you the idea you can have incredible altered state experiences like him if you listen to his random bleep bloop
>fails to mention he started having these experiences after huffing mind altering chemicals for months on end before

Imo I wish Monroe would have given us his glue huffing protocol instead of mp3s that don\t do anything
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>>41988677
If you got dmt why would you need anything else?
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>>42008764
Give it a try and see for yourself. Then everyone is free to believe or not. I believe because it kind of works on me, even if what I see seems to be imaginary and not real.

BTW there was an anon about one or two months ago who had started running remote viewing tests with the tapes and cards, and he was having interesting results, almost half was correct which was way too high to be random. Are you still here, anon?
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>>42008333
Sniffing glue (or markers or ether) causes permanent damages. Don't try.

>>42008820
This is disappointing to learn about the glue thing, but still the tapes work on some people. I think he tried to reproduce the effect of the glue with the sounds.

>>41988677
>Can I mix these tapes with DMT?
If you try, please report.
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>>42009002
Imagine reaching the focus 12 of a dmt trip.... Anon may wake up outside the freaking matrix.
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>>41990654
Hey man, I'm thin and strong it happened to me too! Get a jaw insert. You're relaxing so hard you close your own airway. You can get the body builder kind that prevent grinding teeth during heavy lifts. I like the ones from quiet lab. I also recomend getting xylitol gum and "chewing forward" which means rolling the gum around with your front teeth. This will help build up the muscle and prevent snoring.
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I'm so frustrated with the volume of his voice mid tape my heart literally jumps and it pulls me out of it

Having said that, I just did focus 12 for the first time. Ofc I almost jumped again during focus 12 what something that never happened before, eye closed or open is that a clear vivid image flashed in my mind as if Infront of me. One brief second while my heart jumped, I saw a black and white horizontal thin striped background. What does it mean it's never happened before
Pic rel just slightly thinner
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>>41985789
>finally someone else made a thread, it had to be the drug fag...

Anyway keepsakes from last >>41754068
I somewhat took a break, from the threads and altogether, and somewhat went into hibernation for the winter

However, even then I kept somewhat digesting and reading the book, some really interesting stuff in there I want to write about later.
Every now and then I have the time, I kept feeling the vibrations coming back, and actually had OOBE a couple of times, completely without the tapes.
And even tonight, weird as shit it felt like the vibrations while plain (somewhat sleepy) awake while chilling in the PC.

Tomorrow I'll a better look att to see if there's anything of value.
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>>41990654
Do you mean you forget to breath? It happened to me at the beginning. But here is what I do: when I tell each part of my body to sleep, I tell them, as if I was talking to a kid, something like "I'll be away for a short while, the subconscious will take care of you, if there is any problem it'll warn me and I'll come back, it's ok, so sleep." and at the end I do the same with my breath. Then I don't have to think about breathing anymore, my body just does it on its own. I hope it helps.
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>>42009636
(OP) Why are you calling me "the drug fag" ?

You had the out of body experience on purpose, trying, or just randomly?

>>42009555
Here is a non-guided track that I use, if you are interested. It's wave 2 tape 2 "Problem Solving, Focus 12" but with the talking parts removed.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/luhn0orf55izank/2.2_non-guided_cut_and_volume_boost.flac/file
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>>42009785
>Why are you calling me "the drug fag" ?
>>41985789
>it's not like taking drugs, but it's funny anyway
pardon my assumption

>You had the out of body experience on purpose, trying, or just randomly?
semi-randomly, I just now often stayed in bed after waking up, sometimes counting and letting me go into a deeper state,
often degrees of vibrations come and go, and a couple of those times it actually felt like I unfolded,
I did the reaching out experiment, where you stretch out you arm below the floor, and then reached outside the window, vision was very blurry though
they were very short, and it kind feels like I don't know what I'm doing, which is only natural to get used to it, but its frustrating that I still don't quite know how to trigger it

one is certain though, you can't rush it, knowing that you have a time limit to get up and do shit is a certain way to prevent it from happening,
but also, seems like I can get levels of vibration much easier too, even when fully awake, its almost like I can feel the constant buzzing in the background

hence, now I'm thinking of going back to the tapes, how long it took for me to get it naturally certainly makes me question that the tapes are not nearly long enough,
however, not for projecting itself, but if I can get into state easier, maybe its a good time to review some of the tapes secondary purposes

also sorry for the rambling, I just woke up too and am I little groggy
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>>41986431
>I sometimes see beings appear while in focus 12 and asking for a communication, but I always fail to communicate with them, either they ignore me and go, or they seem to listen but don't answer and go.
>At best I feel deep vibrations through my body, maybe it's their language, but I don't understand it. So I consider these just hallucinations.
Very interesting, the only time I could for certain I met a entity was way before even getting into the tapes.
I was in deep sleep and the dream (or so it seemed) transitioned into me feeling a entity, following by the strong vibrations, and then me realizing it was not a human, get freaked out and it vanishing, me waking up.
At the time I thought it was a demon/alien of sorts, and by becoming aware of it, it lost all powers and fucked away (the devil's biggest trick is convincing you it doesn't exist).

Only recently, after reading Monroe's book, I've realized that it was probably its way of communicating, that I was likely in a natural project (where I didn't remember much at all), until running into this entity.
From what I understand now, their of communication is like that, you don't hear anything but what they want to transmit simply comes to you, like it did to me that it was not human.

See the NVC tapes (non-verbal communication), and that's probably what you want to practice.
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>>41986348
> Cell Fee time
> Proverbs 16:18 — “Pride goeth before destruction…”
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>>41985789
Hello anons. I've been fucking around with this OOBE/lucid dreaming stuff since mid december. I made the mistake of going to reddit and getting a bunch of retarded information that doesn't work. At first i focused on Lucid dreaming, but recently have found that oobe give better experiences.

anyways, too sum up a huge post i was planning on making. I found that reddit is full of retards when it comes to lucid dreaming and it must be some fed psyop to discourage true explorers.

They encourage people to take vit b's, choline, various other hoobajoob and galantamine. meanwhile there a bunch of posts where people say that plants and teas make them lucid and have vivid dreams.

these posts all get ignored while the supplement posts get upvoted and interactions. It's weird as fuck

so i started drinking various teas and i started having ultra vivid dreams and lucid dreams on the regular. there are simple tea's like chamomile which give weak dreams and there are other teas like lavender, valerian root, echinacia, lemon balm etc that give amazing dreams that you can use to get lucid with basic affirmations and lucid dreaming tricks.

these teas also boost hypnogagia and hypnopapia from my experience. The other thing i found out is they boost OOBE practice. Vibrations come on faster and more intense. it's easier to shut off the body. it's easier to float out of body or phase out into a mental image.

just thought i should share for those of you that want a boost. just drink dreaming type teas an hour before your practice. right now i use simple lavender tea or echinacia tea with vitamin C.
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>>42012560
hei do not knockout galantamine, it is legit

what specific teas you are drinking for LD? out of those you named which is the best|??
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>>42008820

I am starting with these ideas of astral projection and there is only one way to confirm and is trying, he doesnt "invite us" to huff glue or anything in his books, he never said he was an enlightened person its that dark side of him maybe that made him to be so grounded to give a message about spiritualism for the common human.

I am not defending him but I think it is worth to try the astral projection you dont even need the audios and of course you dont need drugs.
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I've been doing these for a few nights. Did focus 10 the other night, it feels good.
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>>42013601
I feel like I have a more meaningful purpose in life, which is to roam and explore the more intagible side of life
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What am I even suppose to feel at focus 10? I've never gotten past that stage. He says that my body should be asleep but my mind awake, so does that mean I should be in like a lucid dream state? I've been very relaxed in focus 10 but never felt like my body was ever "asleep", if I've tried to move on to the next stages nothing happens because I just don't know how focus 10 works
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>>42014155
That's intended as far as I know. It's not literally asleep, just relaxed and inactive. I wouldn't take it literally. The harder you try, the worse the result.
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>>42012560
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Maybe some brands also work better that some others.

>>42014155
In focus 10 I basically don't feel my body anymore, as if I was outside of it. I think it's the goal, to kind of detach from the physical body.
It's not easy for everyone, but keep trying, you will succeed eventually.
Maybe try ignoring your body parts, pretend they are not there anymore.
Or try this: >>42009735 >when I tell each part of my body to sleep, I tell them, as if I was talking to a kid, something like "I'll be away for a short while, the subconscious will take care of you, if there is any problem it'll warn me and I'll come back, it's ok, so sleep."
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>>41998742
I for a moment while listening to wave I felt like respecting the voice of the instructor like a god, felt like I was thinking about him as a god or a master and then kicked out of that thought but it really got stuck in me for some minutes...

I think it is better if you all try OOBEs by yourself without binaurals or some weird shit just meditate and follow your inner self you will find your ways.

You dont need anyone human to reach your inner potential.
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OPEN THE GATE
& get out of the way
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JavPI3Iw7LE
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Have you ever manifested something with the patterning tapes?
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>>42014155
I listened to these once and the most I ever got out of it was dozing off.
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Has anyone ever used remote viewing to find a missing person or confirm their death? I had a special connection with this woman 6 years ago and she's been missing for the last 11 months. I need to know.
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>>42012708
>what specific teas you are drinking for LD? out of those you named which is the best

You have to try them out anon. teas give people different types of dreams. There's also the matter of if it's garbage tea or the good stuff also if you make the tea strong. If you want you can also get the plants in pill form. tea is cheaper though.

Green Tea has L-theanine in it. That's one of the supplements that can help you go lucid. it gave me super vivid 3d life like dreams where i can interact with dream people and get "lessons". Only draw back is i wake up groggy as fuck. For OOBE the vibrations became super intense where i could feel them in my balls.

Lavender Tea gave me realistic vivid dreams that would venture off into nightmare territory, but nothing you can't handle. it's weaker than green tea, but i would wake up fresh instead of groggy

Chamomile teas is the weakest of the bunch, but it "resets" or calms down the energy during oobe's. It's my go too if my lucid dreaming or oobe energy's get out of hand. I rarely go lucid with it, but if a stronger tea is giving you issues, just toss in a chamomile tea bag to "calm it down".

Echinacea plus vitamin C. this shit is the bomb. Not for lucidity, but the dreams are super long, fun and entertaining. I've gone lucid with this plenty of times, but only when i do WBTB or Raduga type OBE.

MSM powder. This is sulfur. Niggers use it to grow long hair and nails. It also gives them lucid dreams against their will. You can go read about it.
I've tried it and It's like 5 levels above green tea, plus there's no grogginess. This shit is the only stuff i've taken where i'm fully lucid in a dream right from the start and it's so fucking real I don't even realize it's a dream and i wake up going "wait, was i just in a dream or is this a dream right now?"
I'm also waking up before my body wakes up. It's super fucking cool.

I'm about to start valerian tea + passion flower (night night extra). We'll see how that goes.
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>>42009067
do u remember the thread title?
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>>42021208
>MSM powder
don't take too much of that shit, it'll do something to the colostrum in your skin and your face becomes permanently puffed out
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>>41985789
holy shit bro, if someone actually remixed the Monroe Institute audio tracks into sick goa beats, that would be the most insanely fucking based shit I've ever heard of though, like, I'm just saying
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>>42014155
read the pdf along side it. it doesnt matter what u feel or what anyone else feels. it's supposed to be unique to you. don't expect anything, trust the "higher self" or whatever. a lot of faggots say they literally fall asleep or feel their faggot version of nirvana but it's more like >>42014252
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Does anyone have that meme where he is depressed and then tries out the gateway tapes and has an OBE in he galaxy and then an "aha!" moment? I've been thinking about it for awhile
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I have a hard time listening to the tapes because Ill fall into the rhythms and relax and then when Robert starts talking again it jolts me out of it. I always forget he's going to chime in
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>>42023360
>>42009785
>Here is a non-guided track that I use, if you are interested. It's wave 2 tape 2 "Problem Solving, Focus 12" but with the talking parts removed.
>https://www.mediafire.com/file/luhn0orf55izank/2.2_non-guided_cut_and_volume_boost.flac/file
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Did track 4 for the first time last night, for some weird reason I felt really disconnected from my senses afterwards, especially in my head. What’s also strange is I still kinda feel that way, albeit to a lesser degree. It’s not quite dissociation, the senses I think feel novel again, so they don’t feel like my own or something. I just think it’s weird cause that tape was just about memories, I don’t know how it would correlate to this feeling. The only explanation I can think of is I didn’t “wake up” out of focus 10 properly, since it’s not guided anymore and he just tells you to do it
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>>42024140

I think I had that feeling when I had a panic attack with first wave I stopped mid session because I was afraid I think the feeling gets away after a sleep
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>>41985789
Could this be an effect caused by the gateway arch? But subtle. Lot's of x related stuff on it. It only peaked my interest in asking because of the two but slightly different "points"
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>>41999583
You have tinnitus all the time the tapes just remove your brain's ability to filter it out so you don't go insane.
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>>42002411
Christ is king, brother.
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>Christ is king, brother.
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>>42024032
Ill check it out, thank you
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>>42021071
:(
I wish you peace anon
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Keep your truth alive. Keep it strong. Fuck the suppressors. If you seek truth it's your right as a human to want that that truth.
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>>42023360
The entire goal of Wave I is so that you'll be able to trigger Focus 10 whenever you like. You're only really supposed to listen to the tracks enough so that you'll be able to continue unassisted.
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>>42024140
do grounding
the tapes give wiggle right fingers and think 1.
another way is slowly spin in circle clockwise, name 5 things u see, 3 things u feel/hear, 1 thing you smell.
or just wait a day or two. the second one whenever i felt bad and waiting a month helped me fix dxm abuse floaty feelings
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anon, you can download the tapes here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250221033710/https://mythicinstruments.com/gateways/
The Gateway Experience is guided meditation paired with binaural audio in the background to synchronize your brain hemispheres.
Although it's purpose is not solely to meditate.
It's to change your brainwaves to synchronize with the natural electrical field encompassing the planet and even beyond.
In doing so, you can project your conscious at will as an antenna of sorts to perceive things far beyond what you would be able to normally.
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>>42033383
What are the other things, like "Metamusic – The Maze" ?
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>>42009106
>Imagine a drop of water in a cup of coffee, dude whoaaaaa
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>>42009555
I see the pattern when I'm starteled by the voicover. Interesting.
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I think I gained, well, something and lost it after illness.
I had started to get into Focus 12 relatively easily, getting visual messages some of which brought tears to my eyes. Strong, coherent visions. At some point I did the release and recharge exercise and received persistent tingling sensations on my forehead especially on the third eye region, it was like walking around with a buzzing halo around my head. And I liked it.
Soon after I had visions of gathering clouds and a character throwing up, and what do you know I got hospitalized with norovirus on Christmas, never ending chainvomiting being the center piece of the experience. I tried to avoid eating outside before in order to escape the premonitions, but it was brought to me by my little nephew in the end during the holidays. Oh well.
After that the tingling was gone, just limited to when I do the tapes. I don't get any visions, not even the lights and patterns. We had a conversation with my sister in law about her aphantasia before this all happened, which may have seeded the doubt that despite being able to imagine and rotate and even smell the goddamned apple I started to think that I may not be really seeing things in my minds eye but just imagining that I'm seeing things.
I want to get back on track bros. Help me out.
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>>41988612
read all the manuals you can find. If you can't, the REBAL doesn't have to be visual only. Keep doing it and you will find it easier to establish your REBAL at will
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>>42035482
These sorts of things aren't unusual after an infection. I'd like to give you some advice, but unfortunately it may be an uphill battle. All you can do is research post-virus illnesses as much as you can, and perhaps do Wave II "Problem Solving" and ask how to recover from it.
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>>41995828
What about
Eye brows
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>>41985789
You can listen to basic frequencies on Youtube -
432 HZ, 528 hz etc.

There are thousands of frequencies that people already identified that will help you to heal the body.
>look up Rife frequencies.

Majority of the modern music and music instroments are tuned into 440 hz by satanists (the vatican) in order to harm you and your body.
SO, avoiding any mainstream music is a good start.



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