I think this problem is very paranormal because it seems that we have no free will at all and just exist which is really bizarre. I really don't understand the purpose of our existence then or at least our ability to be conscious. Make it make sense...
you can have free will but its not a passive task.
>>41986368Proof?
>>41986380you dared to ask at all.i think therefor i am.
>>41986385That makes no sense, it's just a physical process.
the only freedom is the freedom to fuck everything up
as to why anything exist at all. fuck it doesn't really matter you don't really have to play the game biology gave you.
>>41986389it might to you someday. keep looking at the physical, esp the very small and extremely large aspects of our universe. you start to see where the room is for the mystic.
>>41986398>no proof
>>41986398>you'll get it when you grow upfuck off boomer
We are here to simply experience and bring the information back to the universe.
>>41986398this is good advice, learn about physics ~ you will make your own conclusions
>>41986402whats the point of an NDE being only chemical. whats the point in wasting energy comforting a being that will be mush before it can realize it.if we can transfer information through wire and air in binary format, the universe it self, can transfer our self to anywhere at a pace faster then possible perception
>>41986406You are here to suffer*Everything here has a source of ”power”What “powers” this cyclical hell scape That would be you and your friends suffering The truth hurts and continues to power the machine
>>41986426>Near-death experiences (NDEs) are believed to be an evolved, protective mechanism—similar tothanatosis (death-feigning)—designed to help the body survive extreme stress, reduce pain, and induce calmness during life-threatening crises
>>41986428Isnt that just capitalism doing this to us? the universe shouldnt care if we suffer or not, right?
Everything is fated and happening of necessity. You don't even need to understand necessity or astrology or have an ego-death experience to see divine predeterminism at work, too, because ordinary causal-chain determinism is enough to make it clear that we're not in control.The "free will" idiots are living in an illusion, but the illusion is necessary. This world couldn't function as intended if its captives were aware that they're just puppets running through predetermined motions.It's so pathetic, a video game character has more freedom than we do. At least people in games (usually) can go down different paths, unlike us who get only one.
I have occasionally experienced the loss of the sense of free will.
>>41986442that opposes survival.
>>41986363I choose... I CHOOSE... BOTH!
Free will is contrary to survivalTheatre God
stop the presses. i had another thought, what is the soul has chirality, most things in our universe seems too. and what would that mean.
>>41986363If we had no free will, then it makes our conversation here pointless. Our thoughts, our emotions, our arguments and worldviews on existence, is all predetermined to begin with.But the fact that we're able to question our own free will should tell you all you need to know about determinism.
>>41986363People don't know how to create art any more. The age of the artisan was plowed over by the industrial age where process was more important than the product. So you stamp and glue labels 1000 times a day instead of painting and printing 2 or 3 labels a day. Ever since then the idea of "free will" was tauted as a burgiosie ideology. And now we have all acts of "free will" censored and covered up in the Epstein files and else where. We must also consider things man has created that have outgrown themselves to which we have bestowed free will. I don't refer to ai, but I do refer to artifice and technology. Specifical the legal entity of governments and corporations. We can say that corps are motivated by profit but they enact their will or aggregate of wills for doing whatever they want to achieve such end. Much like nation states. As far as the weird type of free will related to intention laws of attraction and manifestation. That's probably the only area x really explores as a form of "ultimate" or penultimate free will. And x has established through psychic training files that this power is trainable to any human being really. Which I think says something about typical free will. Even though the rest of the philosophical community thinks you're mostly all kooks.
>>41986655People ride roller coasters THO
>>41986363I doubt people truly have free will. Everything a human does is based on things that they're seen and done before, prior events, knowledge, world view, brain chemistry, personal biases and so on. Humans are even bad at consciously generating random numbers and it's believed it's not possible for them to do so. Free will would be decisions based on absolutely nothing which doesn't really happen
>>41986363Free will is when the Ra is unified with the ka. For me this happens every 3 months or so, when I exert my will. But I am an INTPThe Ra is Representation (Rhema) and the ka is Will (Veil)So Kosmos is just Ra and ka, or Mana and Qi
>>41987115The ka is Vril, no VeilGate-keeping nervous system-hacking treasonous psychopaths
>>41986976people can audit their own thoughts and feelings. with the right awarenesses and the subject sufficiently "awoken" a strong and disciplined will. a free choice is possible.
>>41986363>Can make a perfect being that always chooses to do the right thing and loves unconditionally and infinitely>But muh Free Will to be an awful annoying cruel NPCI hate Yaldabaoth
>>41986492People would fall down stairs and die if there was free will.
>>41986363Just makes no sense. Do you truly have no agency? I always feel like I have many things I could do and chose. I almost never feel like I have no free will, the concept just doesn’t land for me personally. Sure there are many scenarios and moments manufactured by the nurture of one’s life but there is almost always choice. perhaps illusion of choice but being able to chose is still will even if limited. I could and did wave my arm in the air, no reason, no outside pressure, because I can. >>41989164wtf does that even mean, people do already fall down the stairs and die.
>>41986363I think you're confusing Determinism with Pre-Determinism. Pre-Determinism and Free will are both real and both work together hand in hand.Determinism - all events including human actions are causally determined by preceding events, natural laws and environmental or genetic factors. Pre-Determinism - all events in history—past, present and future—are decided in advance. The future is unavoidable and if all conditions were known, it could be foreseen, rendering it pre-determined rather than free.Free Will - Individuals can choose their actions, determine their fates and control their behavior.The word that we use to merge them together is called your Soul Contract. Your soul contract is the lessons you're supposed to learn in this life and what you're supposed to do. Everyone has one. It's not a literal paper contract it's just a word we use so humans can understand that they have a set plan or "contract" they have made themselves with their guides for what they are supposed to do and learn here. I don't know why this board or website tries to ignore Soul Contracts. Psychics talk about them all the time and alien abductees have even brought them up. Everyone on this planet will reach wholeness, for some it'll be quicker than others. But we're ALLLLLLLLLL gonna get there.
>>41986363If things are know, there to run the experiment is no fun.
>>41986363So all time is happening at the same time, it's like a book, when you hold a book the whole story exists, but you can't perceive the whole story at once, you have to go through it. Reality is actually like a solid that we're all passing through, our perception makes it seem like time is flowing, but it's just the same as reading a book word by word. Everything has alreafy happened, but we have to move through the story to see how it unfolds.
>>41990105This is your brain on the digital industrial technocracy. The sooner you become a robot like with ai type It'll be easier to make ai human.
>>41989226From my pov I think the idea of not having free will comes from the way unconscious instincts contradict our conscious intentions sometimes, but since you can change the unconscious ideas when it comes to your attention I would still see that as free will, just a feature of life that makes it take effort to change. >>41986623>what would that meanthat almost anyone can practice to become ambidextrous, but most people don’t?>>41986686How would we return to the idea and valuing art? Do you think it’s possible?
>>41990120Making art that criticizes the post modernist foundation less society brought upon by elites constant dehumanizing and disagreeing with the human experience merely so they could hoard it as a burgiosie luxury to differentiate themselves from the plebs. Yes freedom isn't a state of mind so much than a fashion trend. We must rediscover our roots. Praise our ancestors and develop a new folk art that elevates the common man to someone who can kill God. We must constantly advocate for Exodus and dream of lands of milk and honey bestowed to us by divine right. As creators and artists we must develop new architecture and put our own finishing touches on a breakaway civilization that shines like a beacon in the minds of everyone looking for an exit to this rat race loosh farm. We must give form to our hopes and dreams. Instead of trying to burn down the system we currently live in. We must talk in new languages that our slave masters cannot understand. The internet and memes used to be like that, until (((they))) decide to flood the internet with inhuman programs inflating engagement to keep you trapped in a technological loop of watching YouTube react videos and Facebook updates. To be fair that only really happened when we actually wounded the great beast to such an extent is was dazed stunned confused and clearly panicking.
As far as I can perceive we run on programming. We don't realise this because our programming is much more subtle compared to an animal. However, there is possibly free will in deciding whether to transcend that programming or not. If this is the case, most people ignore this free will and live purely from their programming, so for the vast majority of people there is no free will. For people who are willing to do the work and transcend there maybe is, but whether this is the case or not, it seems best to operate from the pov that it is because this is motivation to transcend, which in the long run will bring you happiness and is your responsibility since all problems in the world come from lack maturity which is caused by a lack of inner development.I've also heard the analogy that we're on a plane and we can't control where the plane goes but we can control how we act on the plane. I like this analogy although it gives a bit more agency than I think is realistic.
>>41990240The closest you could get to free will is trying to make your random number generations as chaotic as possible, and then to base your will around chaos
>>41990484Oh look it's another fag hypnotized by "computational neurobiology" You know some problems you can't just math your way out of. Random numbers being some sort of criteria for free will is stupid. A choice can still be predictable and be a "free choice" . You're just too wrapped up in game theory, thinking that free will is part of a competitive framework.
>>41990113I don't think any of this is even really real
>>41990666Thats just sign that you are experiencing psychotic depression. Due to all the slave conditioning your sub conscious has been taking in.
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>>41990910Kek based
