what is the point of meditation? how do I do it well? much as a crave spiritual liberation, it seems like a massive waste of time. help me to understand why it's not.
>>41987561Real meditation helps you astral project and leave your body. Or see with your eye lids closed maybe even see sound or hear stuff far far away. Anything other than this is cope slop from the matrix. I won't explain more as you humaynes should not know plenty of things per matrix.
You're here to learn . How will you learn if you don't sit still and listen?
>>41987561>what is the point of meditation ever want to get rid of all those "intrusive thoughts" you kids have that you claim to hate so much but never do anything about but desperately "dissociate" away with media and drugs? all those "thought spirals" that make you "crash out" and feel "down bad"? ever wanted to "lock in" whenever and wherever you want, regardless of how many distractions are present or how much red bull or monster or cocaine you haven't had all day? yeah, meditation does all that. if done correctly, it completely ceases the thought process and introduces gamma frequencies to your brain, which literally change you brain chemistry to assist and enhance things like memory, focus, intellectual/creative ability and more. Also you'll become fluent in "rizz" and handle anyone's "clapback" with ease. but don't take my word for it nigga on god no cap fr fr take a look it's in a book>>41987639>Real meditation helps you astral project and leave your bodyyes that's a feature but it's not the point, you can leave your body and still be very distracted by worldly things real meditation turns your body into a self-actualization machine
The world perceived with the fleshly senses is the world of illusion.I'm pretty sure the purpose of meditation is to activate your clair senses, which is you sensing base reality, or truth.This is my opinion
>>41987561Higher development, a healthy mind, healing and magical powers, and greater adventures in new bodies on other worldshow: disciplined mental training, beginning with the practice of calming the mind
>>41987561>it seems like a massive waste of timeWhat you get out of being regulated and centered ultimately wins you more time, but meditation can be a simple 10 minute habit. You get to see how to resolve the things that nag at you. You improve at controlling your impulses and emotions without repression. You adapt to situations and exercise your judgment more quickly and clearly. It can be a 10 minute habit.
>>41987692This is great thank you. What advice do you have in terms of meditative practice? Can you also define what you mean by "real" meditation?
>>41987561Meditation helps you become receptive to god(the real god, not the god of earth's religions). It's a tool, not the goal itself. But I'd recommend you practice it so you can better differentiate between the mind and your conscience.>how do I do it well?Just experiment and find what works. I like to start mine with 3-5 sets of 24 second breaths(8 seconds in, 8 seconds hold, 8 seconds exhale). Sometimes I like to use binaural beats, they can really put you in the zone.
>>41987561you're such a fucking retarded sheep. continue spinning your wheels in the mud then retard, continue doing fuck all for your spiritual development, yes just toss meditation away since according to you it's a massive waste of time. get the fuck off my website zoomer
>>41987816Just because I ask the question in a deliberately provocative manner does not mean what you think it means. Shut the fuck up you dumb piece of shit presumptuous cunt.
>>41987728no problem anon, it's something that helps me greatly on a day to day basis, even when it feels like a waste of time>what is "real" meditation there's a saying that goes >"you can't smoke while you meditate, but you can meditate while smoking" the point is not about smoking - it's about the practice of meditation being an active or deliberate activity, more than it being a passive one. you can do it almost anywhere and anytime, but it doesn't work if you're distracted by another activity. There are hundreds of "ways" to meditate, and no singular one is "correct" - you find the one that works for you, and after that it's the practice, or the activity itself, that brings your mind/consciousness into a state of alignment and expansion. In other words, your mind can enter this state through various methods, the point is that you are accessing it and improving your awareness of it with diligent practice. (1/2)
>>41987833(2/2)>What advice do you have in terms of meditative practice?long ago, I was taught 'za-zen' meditation, which is a simple "sitting and breathing" style you can look up and try easily. Personally, i've never needed anything else. It was taught to me for the sole purpose of 'arresting the thought process', and through strange neuro-magic the 'emptiness' you create in your mind allows actual neuro-chemical changes to occur. All you do is sit in a chair with your head and spine aligned (look online for postures) and, with your eyes closed or open, focus on counting your breaths in cycles of 12, and nothing else, for 20 minutes (it takes about 20 minutes for gamma frequencies to become activated). if a single thought enters your head or if you lose count during this time, you must start again from 1. This is the meditation. this will be surprisingly hard to do the first few times, but as you find ways to eliminate your thoughts (you can force the count or use your imagination to do things like 'blow' thoughts away like leaves) you'll start to notice the strange departure from your body and the 'material world' other anons have mentioned. the point is not to focus on that, but on "Focus" ITSELF - while allowing your breaths to rise and fall naturally, do not lose focus on the count and and you will reap the benefits of gamma frequencies coursing through your brain waves.
>>41987837>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u59jJhsXnwIi find this book to be a pretty good rundown about zen practice (and why it can be so difficult)
>>41987830>>41987816>>41987833>>41987837Soulless retarded humaynes just blind fold yourself all day you might actually realize and do realization for once in your life. Real meditation is a pure deep focus where you meltinyourself. As this ages Buddha I can safely say these Buddhists, yoga moms, and zen artists are waisting their time in delusion as it should be.
>>41987870I was just told to 'kill the Buddha" where will you be tomorrow at 11 am?
>>41987561to work through all that shit constantly plaguing your mind consciously or subconsciously until you actually achieve inner peace
>>41987886Silly humans are mad that I told them to kill their desires that they're willing to re write history and dare kill dark chuddha
>>41987561>What is the point?This largely depends on the type and school etc of meditation but seated mediation does 2 things at a fundamental level. Regardless of technique>Increases the gap between urge and reactionBasically you spend a bunch of time just kind of sitting there. And just sort of not acting on random impulses or fancies or whatever so like eventually you reach a point where you just internalize the fact that you can feel a certain way and are allowed to feel that way but don't need to let that feeling determine your actions type of thing. And become more able to act accordingly in the moment>Soft resets and unplugs mind from external influencesMore important now than ever before but it's just you and where ever you are gives your mind time to get really bored adjust to that and also shake off some baggage you picked up at school, work online etc.Anyways for a beginner the best strategy is to just sit there in meditation position for 10-15 minutes and just try to observe how you feel what you hear see, what thoughts feelings and visualizations pop through your head you don't have to block out thoughts just don't intentionally think them. Like it's not necessarily going to fast track any spirit powers but is a good base to build other techniques off of that is low pressure.I also really like kings active imagination technique it's sort of like a daydream except with less control so you can explore your subconscious It can be both entertaining, insightful yet also scary and traumatic sometimes. I can't describe it to do it justice so I'd look it up
>>41987938>mad"Kill the Buddha" is a major objective of buddhismI thought that was the joke? >chuddha oh NOW you don't want to be the guy? it would be an honor to kill you anonwhere would you like it to happen
>>41987886If anyone wants to kill me I'll be sitting on the couch, waiting—The Buddha
>>41987960Actually you get sent to the lowest level of Hell for harming an enlightened being. You should study Buddhism more carefully.
>>41987972>larps as lucifer>larps as buddha>is neitherthis is the art of zen.*bows*
>>41987997There is nothing but flames.They fill the sky and there is no space (between the flames).In the four directions, in the four intermediate directionsAnd on the ground, there is no place which is free (of flames).Every place on the ground is filled with evil people.I can't rely on anything.I am alone, with no companion.I am within the darkness of this evil realmAnd will (soon) enter the mass of flames.In the sky, I canSee neither the sun, the moon nor the stars.
>>41987981>virgin "harmed" enlightened being vs hellbound chad buddha hunterOUCH
>>41988018yes, the couch
>>41988003lol i've been there before there's no 'people'
>>41988027they were bad people
>>41988047>wereyeah they're semi conscious goop with pain vectors now. not 'people'. ok Luci this was fun but you're derailing so i'm out - stop shitting up a decent thread with your bs and follow me back to /ng/ if you wanna play grab ass
>>41987561I'm the most spiritual, shiny, bright, new age alien there is and I've never meditated. You don't have to meditate to be spiritually liberated or enlightened at all. It's basically just mental yoga. It doesn't have to be your cup of tea. I do however LOVE people who meditate tho. My dream is to maybe have a girl who knows how to meditate. Every person should at least try it. It just isn't my style but I do know it works. I'll tell someone they should meditate or walk on grass before I ever tell em they need to pray...
>>41987561Only God-level people meditate and do it correctly. It just might not be for you bub.
>>41987692ok, what do you recommend I ought to start reading?
>>41988219see >>41987858also if you haven't tried it yet, read the Tao the Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi is excellent, too
>>41987639it's trueI was doing self hypnosis every every night for a week last year with binaural beats where the point was to enter the deep theta wave state. Each time, maybe 5 minutes after starting, I'd suddenly be seeing through closed eyes and feeling astral projection symptoms.It's a real trippy state to be in.
>>41987706>I'm pretty sure the purpose of meditation is to activate your clair senses, which is you sensing base reality, or truth.Yep, and that base truth of reality is consciousness itself.That's why meditation requires you to not think or feel about anything in particular.You just be. Meditation itself is not necessary to achieve this alone. But it's a common method that helps achieve that goal for many people.
>>41988709I've had some success with meditation, seeing with my eyes closed for a moment etc.I'm going down the path of tantra for a while though, meditation seems to not be for me right now
