Jesus was Agnostic and Paul was a roman shill faggot?
>>41989436If the historical Jesus really existed, he was a young rabbi who rebbeled against the corrupt jewish church. Then the jewish leaders accused him and the roman occupation military killed him.It wasn't really a spiritual issue, just politics.About Paul idk.
>>41989436No you are just stupid and can't read.
>>41989436>Jesus was AgnosticNo, the claim is that he is Gnostic. He sacced himself to make us aware of the prison planet and the Demiurge. Paul was a Roman agent and he perverted Jesus' teachings.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuMhSFXnr5I
>>41989549YES that is what i meant idk why it came out as Agnostic and not Gnosticso, do you agree with that? What do you think>>41989540shut the fuck up faggot>>41989481you are not keeping up jesus clearly existed and the rebellious thing is just part, the real thing im interested in is gnosis vs early church
>>41989601Jesus is a complete enigma. In some parts he's talking about fulfilling the law of the god of the old testament. In other parts he's alluding to the old testament god being satan. And then in certain contexts when he speaks of god, it's clear he's talking about the true unknowable and unnameable that is wholly benevolent and lies beyond this world. Then there's the gnostic texts. And then there's the jesus in revelation who is a vicious destroyer and harvester, steeped in saturnian symbolism. His direct teachings are probably the best out there for connecting with the true knowable god(who is within you and always with you). I'd take that, and any gnostic teachings that are useful to you, and not worry about the rest. Paul's teachings, when read a certain way, can also help you connect with the infinite within, but taken literally he does come across as a roman shill faggot that's trying to coerce you into worshipping jesus as some kind of middleman.
>>41989436This is baby's first attempt at questioning Christian origins that takes too much received text and history for granted. You shouldn't assume that Acts is an accurate history of Paul rather than revisionist history, and you shouldn't assume that Paul's letter collection doesn't include forgeries and a lot of interpolations. Get Marcionpilled.
>>41989436LITERALLY YES
>>41989436I think Peter was the Roman shill. Paul was even worse, a phoenician Pharisee shilling phaggot.
>>41989601Gnostics think Jesus was possessed by a spirit channel like the Seth Material at the start of his ministry (Holy Spirit) and it finally leaves when suffering takes him out of frequency (why have you forsaken me). They also think Jesus’s teachings were a metaphorical road map to mystical self-knowledge that would bring salvation through enlightenment, whereas the proto orthodox church saw Jesus very differently as the prophesied Messiah and believed following his teachings to the letter would bring salvation through faith, ie belief in his word. Fundamentally, the gnostic view of Jesus is heretical to Christianity, but from a modern standpoint of viewing him as a spiritual figure like Buddha it appears not that different from other world belief systems about spirituality that sprung up around such people, and was probably based in ancient animism.
>>41989436>Jesus was gnostic>Saul/Paul was sanhedrin pharisee psyop>Vatican has always been a babylonian cult and had a Supreme Pontiff before the time of Christ.>the Old Testament is Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews, edited and rewritten as Christian canon.
>>41990100Through Hurrian and Hittite (Nesilim) culture, Persian monotheïsm influenced and became the cult of Baal, Akhenaten's Atenism, Judaism (the Bible, written by jews in Babylon, influenced by Chaldean moon worship, druidism, Kabbalism and sorcery, Sumerian myths like the Epic of Gilgamesh), Manicheism (early gnosticism), Islam and Christianity. Like Abrahamic religions it promises a final judgement and triumph of good on a judgement day.
