As Promised heres a thread going into the afterlife. Now this will be a long one, it’s ok you don’t have to read, just skip freinds or tell me what you want to dream about when you die.When a person died in ancient Sumer, their body stayed behind, but their spirit called the gidim left the body. The soul did not go to heaven or a place of reward. Instead, it traveled to the underworld, known as Kur.Kur was a vast, dark realm beneath the earth. It was not fiery or torturous just dim, dusty, and cold. The dead were described as shadows of their former selves. They retained awareness, but they had little strength or joy. They ate dust and drank murky water. Life there was dull and quiet.The underworld was ruled by the goddess Ereshkigal. The soul was believed to pass through a series of gates before fully entering this realm.There was no strong moral judgment like heaven versus hell. Nearly everyone ended up in the same place. However, a person’s condition in the afterlife depended on whether they received proper burial and ongoing offerings from their family. If the living remembered them and made food or drink offerings, their existence in Kur was more stable. If they were forgotten or left unburied, their spirit could become restless and troubled.In short:After death, the Sumerian soul became a shadow in a quiet, underground world continuing to exist, but without the vitality or brightness of earthly life.
The early Hebrew Afterlife pulls from here! (Sheol)Sheol:>The dead go underground.>It is dark and silent.>The dead are described as sleeping or resting.>They do not act, work, or praise God.>Everyone goes there (early on, no heaven/hell split).>No strong system of feeding the dead through offerings.Main Similarities:>Underground realm>Darkness and dust imagery>Universal destination>No early heaven vs hell separationMain Difference:>Sumerian: The dead remain weak but aware.>Early Hebrew: The dead are portrayed more as silent and inactive, “asleep.”
In many schools of Hinduism, life itself is compared to a dream (maya = illusion).Some Upanishadic teachings describe:>Waking life = one level of reality>Dreaming = another level>Deep sleep = another>Death = transition of consciousnessCertain Vedantic interpretations suggest that after death, the soul (atman) continues in subtle realms shaped by karma almost like entering another experiential state of mind.Not exactly “a dream,” but reality as layers of consciousness.In Tibetan Buddhism, especially in the Bardo teachings, death leads into a transitional state called the bardo.The bardo is often described as:>Highly dreamlike>Visionary>Filled with symbolic projections>Influenced by one’s mind and karmaAdvanced practitioners train in lucid dreaming specifically to prepare for this.This is probably the closest major religious framework to “after death feels like a dream realm.”In broader Buddhism, existence itself is often likened to:>A bubble>A mirage>A dreamDeath isn’t framed as entering a dream, but consciousness continues according to karmic momentum into another rebirth. Some Mahayana texts explicitly compare post death states to dream imagery.In certain strands of Gnosticism, the material world is already considered a kind of illusion or dream-state.Death is seen as awakening from this illusion, not entering another dream, but leaving one.Within mystical strands of Sufism, there’s a famous idea:“People are asleep, and when they die, they awaken.”Here death is framed as waking up, meaning life itself is the dream.Across traditions you’ll see two main metaphors>Life is the dream, death is awakening.>Death is a visionary or dream-like intermediate state.
NDEsDreamlike perception>People report the world around them bending, shifting, or flowing.>Things may feel fluid, symbolic, or unreal — like a dream.Heightened awareness>Despite the surrealism, consciousness often feels clearer than normal waking life.>People are often fully aware of their own thoughts and surroundings.Altered time and space>Time may feel slower, faster, or non-linear.>Some report seeing multiple perspectives simultaneously.>Sense of presence or intelligence>Beings, lights, or entities are often experienced as aware and responsive, sometimes benevolent.Emotional intensity>Joy, awe, or peace is common, often more profound than waking emotions.How it connects to religion and dream-afterlife ideas>Tibetan Bardo / Buddhist intermediate states: The world can appear fluid, symbolic, and reflective of one’s own mind,much like dreamlike NDEs.>Sufi mysticism: Life is a dream; NDEs can feel like glimpses into the “waking state” of consciousness beyond life.>Hindu subtle realms: After death, consciousness transitions into more subtle planes experiences that feel vivid but unreal in worldly terms.So in many ways, NDEs are modern “experiential proof” of the dreamlike death states religions describe, vivid, aware, and shifting, but fundamentally different from our ordinary waking realityI find that the truth is, as individuals upon death we each enter our own dreams, we create narratives, stories, experiences. It’s all very subjective, through psychology, psychedelic experiences, and NDE’s/OBE’s/Comas we can briefly dip our pinky toes into this territory.
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>>41991001I'm not saying Judaism didn't take elements from other mythologies, but people have been mapping the other worlds long before civilization was a thing. Got anything on the more 'primitive' forms of magic and spirituality?
>>41993537That kind of knowledge is suppressed and lost, the best thing we can surmise is that ancient folk worshipped the stars and archetypal forces. I mean some would argue ancestor/spirit worship, and yeah I could see that, lets put it this way modern or at least semi modern man would see a dancing flame and then they would ascribe a name of a god to it and begin to worship and fuel it where as primal man saw their ancestors in it and prayed to it. That’s probably a terrible analogy.
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>>41990987The afterlife is simply what exist beyound the singularity of the Torus in center.
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>>42001893no, wake up!
Some changes are expected soon, to the Afterlife.
