Yes. I've heard it said that the root of humor is absurdity.This begs the question of what it means for something to be absurd.
>>42014501More things are funny when you are retarded (or high, I suppose). Humor, then, is a result of pushing the boundaries of intelligence. If you try to be serious but then find humor, you're doing it right. If you focus on humor as the goal, your intelligence becomes smaller to accommodate, and you weaken.
When you laugh you're remembering the insanity of existence that everything is based on. You laugh when someone gets hurt because you're enjoying the insanity of it all.
>>42014667This seems accurate based on experience.
>>42014667>If you try to be serious but then find humor, you're doing it right. If you focus on humor as the goal, your intelligence becomes smaller to accommodate, and you weaken.This is sort of what Norm MacDonald said about comedy He said comedy movies aren't as funny because there's expected to be a certain amount jokes per moment, but "serious" movies like Tarantino films are funnier because you don't expect the humor
>>42014743I'm not a big Tarantino fan, but I agree. There's good situational comedy even in war movies.
>>42014485it sounds indistinguishable from sobbing, and comedy is rooted in tragedy. people with the hardest lives always use humor as a mask.
>>42014485>every really made trying to convince you an expression of joy is sourced in harm and tragedyDidnt think this demoralizing thread would show up again.Oh well. Guess /x/ needs to kick itself in the balls a few times.
yes
>>42014485I highly suspect yes.
>>42014485of course, we barely know half how this social stuff works. I don't know if that image is true, but yeah there's a ton of weird stuff we do that should be examined.
>>42014485What you're feeling is the pure joy of the pleroma flowing through you, as you become empty in those moments, either through absurdity, happiness, sadness, deceit, fear, etc. Nothing to do with humor specifically. Your brain skips a beat, so to speak.
The world is a funny place. It's absurd and there in lies the fin, ridiculous situations are often on the surfice in the world regarded as serious.Like for example intel agencies, wars... we have very serious people doing ridiculous shit but shit that is ultimately warrented when one does it forcing the others hand chain of fuckery making it all tragically comical.Micro to macro, holographic world, on all fronts ultimately ironic making it ridiculous and humorous.I laugh my but off when I look at serious issues and then look closer to always find retards and retardation!
There's an entire order of Masons called the Royal Order of the Jesters, and the motto is "Mirth is King" so that's interesting...Also someone told me once that fear and laughter are two sides of the same coin, just negative/positive versions. They both stem from the same root emotion though
>>42014485Laughter itself, is the result of overstimulation of the brain due to either direct overstimulation by tactile or chemical means or due to the imagery within your neurological structures creating one cognitive imagery model and then abruptly creating a conflicting or overlapping cognitive imagery model. This is why tickling works. This is why jokes are 'funny' upon the delivery of the punch line.
>>42017930>they both stem from the same root emotion thoughNever heard or even considered such a take. Quite interesting.In regards to the Royal Order of Jester, have you ever heard about ceremonies or rituals involving them where thy induce laughing to trigger something?>>42021231That sounds more /sci/ and less /x/
>>42014485laughter kills retarded demons. ridicule them.
>>42021429making fun of their gay little names that don't mean really seems to rub them the wrong way, as if anyone would ever touch them to begin with, stink asses with no power.
>>42014485speakign of lately I'm just vibing walking through school or otherwise alone with my thoughts and suddenly i feel this intense urge to smile and laugh despite not feeling particularly happy or amuse?
>>42021300>That sounds more /sci/ and less /x/My friend, it is entirely feels-based and pure /x/
>>42014485It raises your vibration. You can make such an impact at the people around your or the things around you or your surrounds with just your genuine laughter. When the angels saw the world being created or archons or whatever, even if the world is just an illusion and not the real deal, it was splendid and they laughed at the splendour of the whole thing. Joy.
>>42014485Maybe that's why I appear so damn young.This whole world's a giant circus and it's full of fucking clowns.
>>42014485it is reallife
>>42014837Ultimately humor is the art of finding unexpected connection between things, the more unexpected the more humor.One could suspect a divine creator would imbue the desire for his creation to discover how it's all weaved together.
>>42014485What is the opposite of laughter? Silence? Boredom? Maybe that right there are the major clues that answers the spiritual nature of laughter itself.Malaughter exists to drown out the deafening silence and boredom of nothingness and emptiness, with a repeated and pleasurable noise of positive exhilaration and satisfaction of what our bizarre existence has to offer for us? Because laughter is noise and pleasure, and so laughter exists to counter the silence and displeasure of no laughing itself.
Consider this, Hollywood is producing zero comedies anymore. Nothing is truly funny anymore unless it's online and made by non-connected people. And this era sucks ass.
>>42022734The enshittification of cinema
>>42022734you'll never have shows again like strangers with candy or movies like shrek 2, what they call "comedy" these days is nigger and jew shitit's so bad you gotta turn to anime for a laugh
>>42022343Why does laughter need an opposite?Are you stuck in polar thinking? Why would the opposite of laughter be silence?Why wouldn't silence be the opposite of screaming? Or crying? Or giving a rallying speech? Or literally any sound?It seems horribly dumb to try and define and conceptualize purely based on opposites like this.
>>42021300>where thy induce laughing to trigger somethingNot sure, a lot of their rituals are pretty hidden from what I know. But if you've ever seen the Pixar film Monsters Inc., the concept of "screams/laughter are the same energy source" is directly mentioned in the plot of the film. Knowing they put this kind of thing in films to allude to their doings, I wouldn't be surprised if they use laughter in some way against us right now. (Mocking certain topics with humor IS a way that they get people to believe things after all, same for using fear to achieve the same results)
>>42014485there hasn't yet been a good explanation of laughter's meaning, even schopenhauer's essay on laughter was far off the mark
>>42014485Laughter dispels tension and allows one to point out untruths that otherwise would be painful, so it is a gentle force of destruction (and healing) in comparison to war or natural disasters and such. It also creates a distortion, as a chain of jokes playing off each other open a window to an alternative world, an absurd, yet not incoherent one (there is a structure to humor), which makes it a method of transportation to the subtle realms. I think there were shamanic practices based upon purposeful engagement with laughter and the absurd which had carried over into the Christianized culture through bards and jesters, theatrical aesthetics could probably also be traced to a similar root. Relevant scene from Tarkovsky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT-l5fFKS98
>>42021300>>42021504When you have spent as much time as I have out of body, while fully conscious, things like this become obvious. Just because it has a foundation in reality, and thus science, doesn't mean it isn't appropriate here in /x/
>>42022933>Knowing they put this kind of thing in filmsThe case majority of feeding off fear is defeated by laughter in films and fiction.Why cherry pick the single film deliberately subverting this disclosure?
>>42014485Forced laughter is a social performanceI noticed group laughter happens when you take heavy psychedelics with others often accompanied by the feeling of 'why are we laughing' making you either laugh more or maybe spiral outComedians use comedy to critique society hopefully to make it better. Television took standup comedy from a live theatrical introduction or segue between shows, to a full length feature and made stand up comedians paid on par with other film stars. Comedians often joke about the links between the 'dark side' of comedy and fame. There is that bizarre sex joke they all know and tell while laughing. There have been laughing sicknesses or panics in different periods of time. Mad as a hatter so to speak- driven to hysterical madness by common socially ingested chemicals unknown or considered safe. I find laughing at good things good for the soul but laughing at bad things as some sort of trauma bond ritual group training. Such as those home video shows with clips of people hurting themselves- thats some messed up stuff. Laughing is probably a very ancient learned human evolution trait. Some sort of precursor to language but that codes groups or identifies the outsider. Good thread ill be checking back
There is. I decided to laugh as often as possible because it causes dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin and other things to release in other humans if they hear it and other useful things, and because it would give me lots of exercise so my heart could grow strong enough to support my nervous system's meditation, and my stomach muscles could grow strong enough to help support my destroyed spine. It does other things, every time I laugh it kills brain cells and destroys other things but I don't often remember that to help protect the spell as I perform it. Even unfunny jokes can make me laugh. I decided to do this to myself at 5.
>>42023541>There is that bizarre sex joke they all know and tell while laughingqrd
>>42023576Based beyond belief.
>>42023225>The case majority of feeding off fear is defeated by laughter in films and fiction.Can you name some then because as far as I'm aware Monsters Inc. was the only one to do it.Different anon re[lying btw
Laughing makes you feel good but humour is so watered down it's pretty much gen z calling people straight white males and rolling their eyes at the current bogeyman. Humour used to be funny, now I think they're watering it down to make us all miserable.
>>42023225Monsters Inc specifically showed that both laughter and fear were very similar and could be used to siphon the same energy. Also links to the adrenochrome stuff too.
>>42024103IT was a big one, recently.The Dementors in Harry PotterThe Gentlemen in BuffyBoggartsStar Trek's The EntityTwin Peak's BOB>>42028181Right, and many many more show that those that feed off fear are weak to joy and laughter, and are hurt by it.So why do you only want to look to Monsters Inc as the one truth when all the other films disagree?
yesonly beings with a soul have a laughter and can laugh therefore, probably>Timm Thaler (also known as The Legend of Tim Tyler: The Boy Who Lost His Laugh)he sold his laugh to devil for bets which he will always win or some shite.it took me 20 years to realise that his laugh is a metaphor for his soul>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timm_Thaler_(1979_TV_series)
"laughter: it is the highest emotion, for it can contain any of the others from ecstacy to grief. It has no opposite."Excerpt From Liber Null & Psychonaut
laughing in general is retarded and gay. I don't laugh around like a little bitch
>>42031294kill yourself miserynigger
>>42024088Thanks.Today I've grown done many things like usual, among them I grew two neurons close to, and within the dendrites of they will be as they grow, two neurons I'd previous grown and destroyed in myself (1 of them 3 different times, the other 2) that interact with cells I grew in my girlfriend that link our love and psychic powers. I have destroyed and regrown those some in my girlfriend as well. This had many uses; giving us mind control over each other, helping us to locate each other and other things.Her voices and hallucinations and dementia have gone away, her mind cleared even as they take away her freedom, contrary to prior prison visits and life before me. I heal her mind from among memories and fragments of hers I've stored among the beings of the stars since I was 5.I utilize things like her threatened love in me as she misses me and wonders if I even care, and her growing doubt in Yahweh, as opportunities not only to console her but also to remind her of things I've taught her about my ESP in her unconscious and elsewhere from cellular changes I've made and conversations.I've grown hundreds of cells in myself across my body today that convert my love for my woman into something I and others can apply to one another, in whole or in part, across the being or in select thought processes, while also diminishing my love for her in emotional experience, pain, repetitive cognations in favor of more useful thought, though I will continue treating her as if I love her however much of that I shed.
I have no idea but I have been on an alcohol and sleep deprivation and these NPC videos have made my abs and face sorehttps://youtu.be/5GzyG-crg2I?si=nMHjXPlYC-Gf171V
they say laughter only takes 2 neurons and a bag of chips
>>42031884nobody says that
>>42014485humor is evolutionary bonding/coping, much like grooming in primates.. dark humor bonds people in adversity.. absurd humor bonds people in absurdity/breakdown of logic and reality.humor is basically humanity’s glue. I don’t know whether that counts as esoteric or not but it’s what I’m working with for now.
>>42014485I saw a supernatural entity once and it never spoke it only laughter came from it so I'd suspect something about it being spiritual in nature is true
>>42016452?????????????????????
>>42033370There was a previous thread trying to convince everyone that laughter is sourced in harm and suffering, and the glowies were so invested in it they banned me for countering all their suggestions.Look at the remarks above mine. With anons saying laughing is the same as crying, and how you only laugh when remembering insanity or someone gets hurt.
>>42014485In most modern esoteric practices, laughter is used as a means of dispelling psychological 'daemons' that might occur. In a manner of speaking, it's simply to prevent lingering obsessions or over fixations with whatever one might be trying to achieve. To break the ice, so that there's a flow to your mental state.
>>42033440>To break the iceYep.Laughter relieves tension. It can be physical like laughing after a friendly race, or just as a toddler able to run in the first place.It can be mental, like wit or jokes with setup and punchline; the tension of a riddle or confusion and the relief and surprise of an unexpected connection.It can be social. To try and turn heavy situations into lighter, friendlier ones.
last time i had a really good laugh (belly cramps and gasping for air type) was 2019/20 and then, only while on dudeweedgranted im a rather pessimistic, miserable fuck and my sense of humor is either extremely dry or extremely childish so thats that
>>42017866>we have very serious people doing ridiculous shit but shit that is ultimately warrentedNo, it fucking isn't "warrented", you illiterate Nazi scum. Shut the fuck up you dumb piece of shit rat fuck.
holy seethe
>>42033510>after a friendly raceYeah this really gets to the core of it.The laugh after a competitive activity dispels unhealthy feelings of resentment that could otherwise build into a bitter rivalry. Different feelings seem like such a small thing in the present, but over the time line, things like this can snowball.When you consider a real life 'daemon' as being something mundane like this, abstract but agreeable by any normal person to be real, it's staggering when you start to think how much more damage this kind of demon can do, than some fire breathing monster man with bull horns, or a classic supernatural possession. A bad daemon let loose by lack of friendly laughter could start a war.
>>42033591>competitiveActivity alone without competition can induce laughter. A kid jumping on the bed. Spinning around til you're dizzy and fall over.you are combining the physical and the social, but it isnt neecessary for the laughter.
>>42033596Whether or not it can, wasn't really the topic being examined by myself and the other poster. we're pointing out a specific application laughter tends to have, and this context highlights it.If one were to get into actual ritual magick, this is widely considered an important application, because what you're doing is kind of lame and contrived, and you do need to be able to just laugh it off to get into the flow of it.
>>42033618>and the other poster.That was also my post.>we're pointing out a specific application laughter tends to haveAnd I very intentionally separated the physical and the social causes.
>>42033535Do people really? I'm a misanthropic hermit but I can't count the times I laugh in a day, most of it's at myself or something stupid I've done.
>>42028587>IT was a big one, recently.They defeated Pennywise by mockery not laughter.>The Dementors in Harry PotterDefeated by recalling a happy memoryDidn't watch the other shows so can't speak on them but are you sure you're remembering correctly that it was laughter specifically that defeats the bad bad in those films?
>>42034540*big bad
>>42034540>mockeryIs using laughter to hurt someone. But iut wasnt mockery, it was them standing together strong - including laughter.>by recalling a happyYes.> it was laughter specificallyThey all show that joyful emotion and expression are not the same as fear and cant feed such creatures.You still have no reason why you want to cling to a single cartoon that was deliberately subverting the common trope.If it's soft disclosure, then why is it the only one and all the OTHER soft disclosure disagrees?
