What if we are all Gods? Then "Truth" would be both personal and universal. This would make the basis of all forms of truth "WILLPOWER" - and as such, place this absolute truth beyond dualist concepts like "good" and "evil".This could be the Way to the One Concept of Self and ALL. I'm not saying it is. But, it could be?
>>42027251There is truth to this (kek).Thinking, or wanting something makes it far more likely.
>>42027281I definitely vibe with the law of assumption, frenNeville Goddard was very based
>>42027251>beyond dark, beyond brightwhat may be inconceivable to the mortal mind by sheer magnitude is not actually beyond duality; you cannot escape morality in this way
& a lie asserted by a strong will, however strong, does not become true because of the will asserting it
>trust me broNo. I do not take your word for it, and I think you are wrong.But, I am patient. So, I will wait. And then we shall see.Now, be gone.
these juvenile/nihilist attempts to escape from truth and morality all end predictably
cope
all beings are gods-in-embryo
here's your attention faggot
>>42027312what must be remembered, to avert disaster, is that the infinite remains above you, and remains above all manifest beings, no matter how high
thanks for bumping my thread over and over btw
>>42027318>Listen, ye Sons of the Earth, to your Instructors—the Sons of the Fire. Learn, there is neither first nor last; for all is One Number, issued from No-Number.
how long are you going to need me to keep giving you attention, like, do I need to keep replying or will you just keep replying to yourself if I stop and bump the thread for me?
>>42027330here's a diagram that will be very helpful for you.
no thanks
>>42027339you'll learn for yourself, then. i did try to help you avoid disaster.
nah you just want attentionme too buddy, me tooit's cool, I just don't like you because you're a worthless faggotit's not even personal
>>42027347I don't want attention; I'm actually trying to help you
you're coping
so anyway... this is why Nietzsche was wrong
so anyway, you're still coping
>>42027371you don't have an argument, do you
>>42027251The universe zoomed out is a single thing. But zoomed in, there’s an illusion of separation. If you’re pantheistic and believe the universe itself is the living sum of all existence then you believe that universe is god. If the universe is god, then everything inside the universe is god.
>>42027379nah man not really noI'm actually trying to help you
God does not approve of this thread
>>42027298> you cannot escape morality in this wayWhose interpretation of morality? Surely you acknowledge that even among those who believe similar to you, moral interpretation isn’t consistent.
>>42027251We all exist as fragmentation of the true god. Here's a bedtime story for you. Once upon a time there was an organism, arisen from a universe cold and unfeeling; it was the perfect organism. It was hungry though, so it ate, and ate, and ate, until there was nothing left to eat. "What will I do now?" it said. In its infinite wisdom, it stumbled on a conclusion. "I know I can't truly die. With my final wish, I could never comply. So I will scatter my being near and far. Though my resolve is bone dry. Hopefully you, my morning star, will light up the night. Though this is goodbye, today marks the end of my blight. My righteous hunger, which ate all in sight."
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>>42027396That was an awful story full of projected negativity and passive aggressiveness coming from it's author, but thanks for sharing it anyway. I hope you didn't write it yourself.
>>42027409What better words could describe the ground we stand on?
>>42027411Vibrant and alive, love, life, flourishing, friendly, warm.
>>42027416You settled for a single point of view and were left with tunnel vision
>>42027418You don't know my mind, thus you are projecting. You want to believe that so you can dismiss my feelings.
>>42027422I know you
>>42027425You know what you think.
>>42027422I think the other anon is saying that you are anthropomorphizing the universe by assuming its reasoning or logic to why anything is the way it is. In the story, it scatters itself purposefully because it cannot eat. Very similar to the often used “experiencing itself.” The problem is trying to apply finite human understanding to something undoubtedly more complex than we can imagine. Sometimes idk is good enough.
>>42027442I think that's why I ended it with an open question instead of a statement of fact, like, asking if this line of thinking was permitted, not if it was necessary.Again, this is projection. None of this was implicitly stated or predicated in the logic of the statements that were made. And furthermore, your argument is completely self-refuting. You cannot set up a category that you claim we have no cognitive access to in order to define it as a supremum in the same breath. This is exactly like people who confuse the empty set for true nothingness rather than just, an empty box with the number zero written on it.Literally, I can just tell you to take your own advise here, but that would be rather rude. I just wish I could understand why you keep projecting this negative energy into the statement that was made. You're afraid of something, but you won't just say it, you want to build this hanoi tower first, which is just unecessary. The statement was meant in the highest of loving feeling, and you are simply being paranoid right now, then trying to rationalize that paranoia somehow, but if you wanted to you could just drop it instead and we could be friends.No offense.
>>42027466I’m nta you were going back and forth with. I’m just an observer telling explaining my interpretation of their comments. I kinda liked the story although I think it still stands, we can only guess at a certain point.
>>42027488I think the deeper point here is that, I'm offering you friendship, while disagreeing with your opinion, which means I'm willing to live in a universe where we can be ourselves and that's totally okay with me. But is it okay with you?I can't imagine a better compromise than that happening right now. I mean, is that not fair? If you can't accept that, then how can you tell me a story about some unfeeling thing eating everything? Would that not literally be you, then, since you refuse to "share" as it were? I'm just asking for my own personal cognitive space, and I believe that's also what you're asking for, is it not?
>>42027499Just to be clear, my only responses in this thread are >>42027395, >>42027383, >>42027442, and >>42027488I really am confused what you are going on about
>>42027514Okay.So, what do you mean then? What part was confusing about what I said?
>>42027531I can disagree and stay civil if that’s what you’re asking. Most of my ideas and reasoning today come from testing it against others. I’ve been wrong a million times and I’ll be wrong a million more. But you haven’t shown me how I am wrong in this instance, so I don’t accept it yet.
>>42027571I wasn't trying to show you that you were wrong. It seemed to me that you were trying to say I'm wrong, so I was trying to explain what I meant. Which was, maybe it's okay if we think this way, because then it lets us have a common ground for both personal and universal truth. Maybe that's too complicated. What MEAN, is that, everyone can have their own microcosm that overlaps with a greater macrocosm. Personal truth can be unique while still existing within a universal truth that is also unique. That is nothing like the narrative of the story that was told, where there's this unfeeling creature that eats everything and then scatters itself to spread that essence to everything when there's nothing left to eat. You're free to feel that way if you want and see things that way if you want, and that's fine with me. I see it differently, I think the universe is like, a wonderful serendipitous adventure full of friends we make along the way. If that was a misunderstanding, we can just agree to disagree and shake hands, or not if you're afraid of germs of whatever. This-is-me-placing-ALL-my-pistols-on-the-floor-slowly-and-backing-away.
>>42027609> You're free to feel that way if you want and see things that way if you want, and that's fine with me.I don’t agree with that story either. I think we just a misunderstanding and I think I consider you for someone else and you confused me for some else.
>>42027390What is he going to do? Get himself killed like a dindu?
>>42027251This shit is so tiresome, if I were God I wouldn't have to live a miserable wagie life.
>>42027251if we are all gods then no one is god
>>42027251The Eternal Godplex of Sovereign Gods each with our own dream realities.Hey, if it happened once, why can't it happen a countably infinite number of times? If there are other conscious viewpoints here playing with me, then yeah the Eternal Godplex is true.It is the opposite of the dissolution self erasure focused usual spiritual traditions here.It's eternal individuation of the conscious viewpoint. Sovereignty.The only moral way for a conscious viewpoint to exist, is as an eternal and sovereign God. All other ways are gaslighting.
>>42027251Yeah man, it could be. But it probably ain't.
>>42027251what the fuck is `Gods` anon, if all is connected to The GOD then there is just one singular God, otherwise it is `gods` because there are many sharing the same name.
>>42027251You're a monkie with no real purpose other then building nice things for dadie. In return you'll get coins so You can buy carrots and pay rents so You can sleep well and participate in the societal order untill You're not needed anymore. IF You're Nice You will get a chance on another realm where You can do cool things and pick a portal to another world or go back here again.Many monkies choose to go back here again because of family. I wont Come back here again because You suck and are mean.
