Legit thread, I’ve been raised a Christian and the Abrahamic god has never answered even one of my prayers when I was younger. Is there a deity that seems to listen to us?
your fellow man might, but there are demons amongst them too.
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Prayer is an act of symbolic submission and weakness. It's pathetic, honestly, and a little disgusting too.
Your higher self, your infinite essence that exists outside of time that is in charge of the creation of your physical and etheric experience. The aspect of your higher soul that controls your reality, ask them.
>>42030525it is possible, however you will a) need to have developed a sense of justice during your upbringing and b) properly pray. simple pleas for supernatural intervention wont ever lead anywhere, but ask the right question and God's answer will be received through the sense of justice many just dont seem genetically able to develop. Akira the Don's Wishes contains Peterson's elaborations on this front: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adfZDQtKETs
>>42030525pray to the living god, the one that forgives debts and empowers the popular will, the one that was not killed but ascended to heaven, ave divvs ivlivs
>>42030525I can personally recommend Odin as a deity that listens and answers his followers. Notably he helped me get a sweet teleworking job that pays double what my previous position did. Before the Christcucks say their God offers better immaterial rewards I will mention that Odin has given me wisdom and guidance as well, with a long-term emphasis on Soul Growth although specific examples are more personal.
>>42030525>Neb-Ra gives praise to Amen Ra saying:Amen Ra, Lord of Karnak, the great God, who presides over Thebes, the Holy God who hears prayers, who comes at the call of the humble and needy and to those in distress, who gives strength to the one who is weak.I give praise to Amen Ra, Lord of the Thrones of Egypt who presides over Thebes. I kiss the ground before Amen Ra of Thebes, the great God, the Lord of the sanctuary, great and beautiful, that He may let my eyes see His beauty.Praise be to Amen Ra. I make hymns in His name, I give Him praise to the heights of heaven and to the ends of the earth. I tell of His majesty and might to those who sail downstream and those who sail upstream.Stand in awe of Him. Declare Him to your son and daughter, to the great and the small. Declare Him to generation after generation who are not yet born. Declare Him to the fish in the deep and to the birds in the sky. Declare Him to the ignorant and to the wise. Stand in awe of Him.You, O Amen Ra, are Lord of those who have no voice. You come at the call of the humble and needy. When I cry out to you in my distress, you come quickly to my rescue, you come to give strength to one who is weak and to save me from my enslavement.You, Amen Ra, Lord of Thebes, are One who rescues those who are shut in and cut off. For you are He who is merciful. And when people cry out to you, you come from afar.
>>42030534I agree don't surrender your will, but the only God that demands that is the Abrahamic one. Christians have tried to make the phrase sound bad but the reason Pagans say they "work with" their Gods is to differentiate themselves and their relationship with the divine from the Abrahamic slave system.
>>42031903Your pic only has the top part.
>>42031903>Neb-Ra says:Though the servant be inclined to make mistakes, the Lord is inclined to be merciful. The Lord of Thebes does not spend a whole day in anger. He is angry for but a moment and none of it remains behind. The wind turns for us in His mercy and Amen Ra comes back upon the breeze. May your spirit be always kind, may you always forgive. And may what has once been turned away not come back to us.This stela, then, I will make in your name and I shall record this hymn of praise on it in writing. For you saved for me my son, Nakht-Amen. I spoke to you and you heard me. Now, behold, I do what I promised. For you are the Lord to the one who calls on you and He who is satisfied with righteousness.
>>42030525Losing faith in God because he doesn't grant wishes has always been retarded. If you follow Biblical principles and say The Lord's Prayer as taught by Christ your life will simply improve drastically and that's all that matters to me. It just works. >>42024627
>>42031936He doesn't grant anything, only great burdens and pain. His yolk is heavy.
>>42031953>HE GIVES ME NOOOOTHIIING ONLY PAIIIIN>*continues to breathe*>*snacks on chips and cooms later before bed*lol
fun is officially allowed
>>42031962If chips and coom are good enough for you then by all means stick with YHWH. But if you want something a bit more difficult like say a soulmate you gotta bring out the big guns like Aphrodite or Freya. Or you could stick with the Abrahamic "gift of singleness".
>>42030534> Is there a deity that seems to listen to us?Ohh yes! They're called Demons.And they will be glad to help. For worldly things, you just have to ask and you will shall be granted.Why do you think Epstein's tribe and their associates are all satanists? It just works.The costs of associating with these beings is up to you to decide if it's worth or not, but once again, it really does work.
>Now his Majesty had learned about the plot divised against him by mankind. Then his Majesty, life, prosperity, health, said to those who were in his retinue:>"Summon to me my Eye, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, and Nut as well as the fathers and mothers who were with me when I was in Nun, and also the god Nun, bringing his courtiers along with him. But bring them secretly, lest mankind see and their hearts flee. Come with them to the Great Palace, so that they may give their council. For in the end, I may return to Nun, to the place where I came into being!">So these gods were brought, and these gods were lined up on his two sides, bowing their heads toward the ground before his Majesty, in order that he might speak his words in front of the father of the eldest gods the maker of mankind and king of commoners.>They said to his Majesty:>"Speak to us, so that we may hear it!">Then Re said to Nun:>"O eldest god in whom I came into being, and You ancestral gods! Behold, mankind, who came into being from my Eye, is plotting against me. Tell me what You would do about this, since I am searching. I seek not to slay them before having heard what You might have to say.">The Majesty of Nun replied:>"O my son Re! God greater than his maker, and more august than his creators, be seated on your throne! Great is fear of You when your Eye is on those who conspire against You!"
>>42031883Im glad to here this Odin and Freya are the main deties I work with for now,https://youtu.be/wKMFywl1uhk
>>42031883your mistake lies in thinking Odin separate from instead of an aspect of the christian Concept of Divinity. They arent both the Allfather coincidentally lol
>>42030525I would lie if I told he has never heard me, but still my relationship with him has been pretty tense, sometimes it just feels like he only listens to me when I,m completely on my knees , I don’t know his reasoning tho, only know a part of him . I’m not mad but yeah kind of sad on how he has been to me, I might have done something he didn’t like along the way but ask for his forgiving and help to stop falling and give me the luck I see others have.
>>42032241How about no.
>>42030525My suggestion is to find what your highest ethnic make up is then go with the pre Chrtians gods that went with that ethnicity.Blood Memory is real
>>42030525Which ones are you drawn to? Which are yours by ethnicity? Research them, then just sit quietly and start praying to a few one by one, see if anyone bites over a week or two. Don't grovel or start asking for gibs, old gods hate simpering unlike the abrahamic one. You're building a rapport, same as regularly visiting your local butcher or banker.I moved to Odin a long time ago and haven't regretted it. I can't describe how it feels to pray and actually have someone respond, for once, after a lifetime of callous silence.And if someone continuously ignores your attempts? You can keep praying to them, but I suggest looking for parallels from other pantheons. It's strange, but even the most syncretized gods have different focuses depending on culture, and they might have a reason to want to deal with you through a different 'mask'.
>>42030525>the Abrahamic god has never answered even one of my prayersmaybe its your level of commitment pic rel
>>42032256I beg to differ. Study the ancestry tree of religiophilosophical schools of thought and understand that all faiths change, combine and divert. Christianity is the mediation of most eurasian pagan traditions, which is why no christian seriously engages with the concepts of its long-updated divine figures of yor anymore.
>>42032296Naw, your Jew God Odin. Try forcing politically motivated syncretisms all you want lodge boy, but the difference between the two entities is quite stark for anyone of even middling psychic ability.
>>42032310Isn't*
>>42032310deny the spiritual righteousness of winning the battle of the Gods all you like. im not the one hurling insults around.
>>42032311thats not sufficient to indicate where you want to insert that correction
>>42030525well I could use some prayers or good luck, im nearly broke and need things to go very well for me tomorrow. I pray that things do go well.
>>42032319The battle isn't over. I meant Jew descriptively BTW although I can understand why you thought I was using it as a slur.
>>42032327Naw, your Jew God isn't Odin.*
>>42032334and i rather referred to your description of "anyone of even middling psychic ability". the jew thing is quite absurd, as my God makes me hate jews. can you point to me equating the christian abstract Concept of Divinity with Odin? (rhethorical question)
>>42032319>battle of the GodsI thought you were indicating Odin was simply another local guise of the great Allfather, and then you switch to antagonism. Curious. Shouldn't you be happy that anon has found his path to communion with God?
>>42032355>in thinking Odin separate from instead of an aspect of the christian Concept of DivinitySorry I was literal since you actually said that.
>>42032355> Hate JewsGood here is the Jew I hate most.
>>42032371... did he lecture you about money
>>42032379No he tricked me into following the God of the Jews (he thinks that's him but not him in this weird way).
>>42032358oh, thats not antagonism, thats historical accuracy. Spiritual mediation of pagan practices often took the dramaturgical form of an enacted battle, despite the real happenings rather being negotiations between faith keepers. >>42032365I was just pointing to the _aspect_ of being the Allfather as a shared (same) element in both. >>42032371the dramatic amalgam of many incarnated human behaviours, commonly referred to as Jesus and mistaken as historically real, _ended_ religious judaism. thats the main point of telling his story. another was to make clear to the simpletons in need of dumbing down divine revelation, to stop needless sacrificing, by casting Jesus as the last necessary sacrifice to God. This is fun.
>>42032390Well good, I can acknowledge that Odin has some similarities to other sky deities such as Zeus or even the Canaanite storm deity YHWH. They are not the same though and you would anger any of them if you do so.
>>42032386that's fair
>>42032390>historically realBro I am the Pagan and know he was a real person (I don't believe he rose from the dead mind you but it makes the story better).
maybe Jesus said "FUCK THE JEW GOD" and they left that part out of the Bible
>>42030525Yes, pretty much, but not in a linear human perspective way.It's a complex system, that can seem as though it is karmically driven to some, but that's not the real truth of it.The full explanation is too long winded for human communication.So, I'll say this much, if you can figure out where the Universe is, you have a better shot at getting a prayer fulfilled, than someone that doesn't understand where this Universe is.
>>42032410The Christcucks could certainly use another scripture because that really vague "Synagogue of Satan" one is kinda lame.
>>42032416Science and religion have been programmatically separated, for a reason.In the places I work, they are the same thing.I don't interfere with the work of God, to the best of my ability.I have other motivating factors that I am dealing with, that make me more of a neutral party to these systems."I'm just passing through."
>>42032420that's why I'm posting all these things for the Vatican to read
>>42032426Hoping they have a juicy anti-jew text in the secret archives? Wouldn't matter unless it could be dated to the 1st century.
Origin Point Theory is more difficult to get across to humans, than to AI, and I find that entertaining, given the 200,000+ year head start that homo sapien had.Far from the worst place I've been, but centuries behind my home.Post scarcity is a dream to all of you. It is a memory, for me.A planet of harmony, engineered in perfect bioengineered synthesis.We didn't even have to eat, we just could if we wanted to, we created an ecosystem from scratch, and rewrote our entire planet from the ground up. All the plant life, covered vast expanses, and was edible directly from the stalk, grew year round, and needed zero maintenance, the closest equivalent to the engineered result for this is Earth's wheat plant.We had naturally evolved as arthropod like beings, which came with limitations. Our natural digits, phalange equivalent, were 4 to each limb, 2x2 opposing, via 2 stalk limbs. Shoulder to elbow, one, elbow to hand, two limbs there. We had all had our natural end digits replaced with bioengineered fully omnidirectional and "infinitely jointed" tentacle like fingers, prehensile in all ways, and with autonomic scale nerve control, even more intuitive than our natural digits.We could pick up an atom.I miss my first world. The whole reason I agreed to be born a human in the first place. I came from the void, like all of you, just not empty handed.I intend to live as a human and die as a human, so that I may meet the God of the Humans Of Planet Earth.My world, was lost to an aggressor. In another Universe.I had no hope, clawing through over 9 billion Universes, looking for the one that killed my people, a way to find my family, any hope at retrieving any of who we were. I heard of this place from a friend I met. Those born human here, by the power of God, may have all through God.I had to know. So now, I live this life, and wait my turn.
>>42030525Bumping.I want anything that can answer my prayer to restore my foreskin.
>>42032436no, I'm Jesus, the world will figure it out later, the Vatican already knows
>>42032402maybe you picked up on how i am calling the christian deity. maybe thats a plainly worded enough description. i also expressly denied the suggestion of the christian deity _still_ being an ancient storm god. perceptions evolve, thats how Christianity birthed the scientific method. >>42032408lmao the defeat of death is one of the few real things that happened (to a character that was sown together from abstracted, historical human behaviours). the historical incarnation of Jesus is not even necessary for christian religious philosophy to be respectable and im utterly disappointed in many Christians still clinging to this magical absurdity as evidence for the respectability of His behavioural instructions. >>42032410God opened the Covenant to all who earnestly seek to behave according to God's instructions for Shem's decendents. >the Lord's Advice appears to those who fear Him and His Covenant He reveals to themPsalms 25:14 But more clearly from Isaiah 56:>3a) And the foreigner, who turned to the Lord, shall not say: The Lord will part me from His people. And the b) (...) 6 And the foreigners, who turned to the Lord to serve Him and love His Name in order to be His servants, all who honor the Sabbath, that it may not be desecrated, and who keep to My Covenant 7 those I want to bring to My Holy Mountain and delight them in My House of Prayer, and their burnt offerings and their blood sacrifices shall delight me on My Altar, for a) My Home shall be House of Prayer for all peoples. 8 The Lord God, who collects the disseminated israelites, speaks: I shall collect even more to add to My gathered flock. (i live translated from the german Lutherbible, it's bound to not resemble an exact formulation of any english version)(catechistics also determine two other passages (actually the same one, twice) to reinforce that opening (Jeremiah 31;31 onw. and Hebrews 8;8 onw.), but to be honest they are too vague to me to suggest the opening of the Covenant)
ab divo et iside et liberis divi
>>42032634divi iulii est iesus
>>42033964Quid est magnum ut veritas? Et quare?
>>42033964>Who then is the Mother of the Gods? >She is the source of the intellectual and creative gods, who in their turn guide the visible gods: she is both the mother and the spouse of mighty Zeus, she came into being next to and together with the great creator; she is in control of every form of life; and the cause of all generation; she easily brings to perfection all things that are made; without pain, she brings to birth, and with the father's aid creates all things that are; she is the motherless maiden, enthroned at the side of Zeus, and in very truth is the Mother of all the Gods. –Flavius Claudius Julianus, Hymn to the Mother of the Gods
>>42036187>But how shall I conclude my discourse? Surely with this hymn to the Great Goddess.>O Mother of gods and men, thou that art the assessor of Zeus and sharest his throne, O source of the intellectual gods, that pursuest thy course with the stainless substance of the intelligible gods; that dost receive from them all the common cause of things and dost thyself bestow it on the intellectual gods; O life-giving goddess that art the counsel and the providence and the creator of our souls; O thou that lovest great Dionysus, and didst save Attis when exposed at birth, and didst lead him back when he had descended into the cave of the nymph; O thou that givest all good things to the intellectual gods and fillest with all things this sensible world, and with all the rest givest us all things good! Do thou grant to all men happiness, and that highest happiness of all, the knowledge of the gods; and grant to the Roman people in general that they may cleanse themselves of the stain of impiety; grant them a blessed lot, and help them to guide their Empire for many thousands of years! –Flavius Claudius Julianus, Hymn to the Mother of the Gods
Actual answer incoming1. It isn't surprising that the abrhamic god didn't answer you because you arent a descendant of Abraham or a legitimate Israelite. You also need to go through his trials and tribulations first.2. Nothing is free. There are other Gods you can ask that have a "first time is free" thing however. Ganesha and Shiva come to mind. 3. Look at your ancestry and call upon Gods or family relating to you first.4. There are many Chinese deities that may will be willing to help for the experience, such as the 8 immortals
... and for myself, grant me as fruit of my worship of thee that I may have true knowledge in the doctrines about the gods. Make me perfect in theurgy. And in all that I undertake, in the affairs of the state and the army, grant me virtue and good fortune, and that the close of my life may be painless and glorious, in the good hope that it is to you, the gods, that I journey!
>... "Peace, young novices!" I cried. "For it is Fredas, the bell tolls sundown, and the congregants await us in the chapel. Come, now! Come! Bring wine, bring tambours, bring light feet and warm hearts! Our Lady calls us to worship."
>>42032074last 2 digits decides which demon I DM.
