I fail to see how spiritual experiences/sustenance can be gained from "gods" as psychological archetypes or natural forces.Even Aristotle saw prayer and divine intervention as bullshit.
>>42042631The Pygmalion effect is a psychological phenomenon where higher expectations lead to an increase in performance. It operates as a self-fulfilling prophecy: when a leader (like a teacher or manager) believes an individual has high potential, they treat that person differently, which in turn causes the individual to internalize those expectations and perform better.
>>42042631>psychological archetypesMost people who spout this shit are just jungian grifters.
>>42043120I am a Jungian, but I do it for free
>>4204263199%+ of them don't have human-like emotions but there are ways to commune with 100% of them, I think.
>>42043274A lot of probably do. They are projections of the human mind and thus share its qualities
>>42043291Okay, but even dogs and cats and birds and stuff don't experience reality like humans do. A lot of the gods that aren't basically all powerful aliens or that have avatars are bound within a realm in which they are the master. These realms can be their own gods as well.
>>42043343Dogs and cats and birds are just like really dumb people. Animals are basically non-verbal four-legged people with down syndrome. The gods are significantly more human than that
>>42042631I see you there, can relate some. There was a Jungian doc named Moore that unpacked his divinity like this:>Look up at the crucifix>See the great self up there>Respecognize the archetypal potentials up there and withinThough he never called it a spirit, odd ontology, homie used the term 'Self' and the little-s 'self', careful to differentiate between the two.
>>42043359More human than humans
>>42043291>They are projections of the human mindthis isnt true. they are seperate from us. they are their own beings
>>42043452There are gods that are our interpretations of the gods too THO o algo
Those gods live in the psychic-realm which always exists outside time as a potentiality-god, but the psychic-gods are made avatar into the material realm when the first lifeforms first imagined what true-reality must be and so made communion with them.
>>42042637Neat
>>42042631I recently had an epiphany that all the "gods" thing, the bad and the good, are only externalization of the psyche.
>>42042631>AristotlePicrel is where Aristotle came from not to long ago. Believe in higher intervention and be thankfull for it. They dont need you. You need them. Or Maybe You should go back to the jungle eating larvees and buggs again. Maybe that suits you better.
>>42042631This is Aristotles Great great grandmom
>>42045115You call her Lucy.
>>42042631>I failhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ
They’re not “like, just ideas in the cloud, maaaaan…”They exist, in a very real way. In the way a man exists to a dog, a God exists to man.
>>42042631Yes, don't be stupid. If you wouldn't tolerate disrespect to your person, do you think the god's wouldn't either? As below, so above.
>>42042631Hot.>>42042637>they treat that person differently, which in turn causes the individual to internalize those expectations and perform better.Linear causation materialist thinking. The effect is nonlocal and doesn't even require direct interaction. The cumulative small effects over time and self amplifying feedback loops model appears elegant and appeals to mechanistic thinking, but is ultimately just fantasy. Shit has nothing to do with anything. You can abuse the living fuck out of something and believe in it, and it'll fight hard to gain your approval and acceptance. However someone can do the exact same thing, same output, without believing in them at all, and the person will resent and give up.Likewise the experiment can be blinded, You might think well, I can alter someone's fate simply by knowing they exist and scripting a certain outcome for them. Then the countercase because okay there's no direct connection between you, but perhaps others sees you and there is some invisible transfer and they quietly act to elevate this person to the fate imagined? It becomes untenable. It's basically magical thinkign pretending to be science. Just like literally curing disease with the placebo effect and then just classifying it as a confounder.Glad I grew out of that. The mechanistic, linear, cause and effect mindset is quite beautiful though, I grant you this. It just isn't real. None of this shit is real. though many want it to be and believe hard, it still isn't. And can't be. though you can convince it to try and it'll fake it for you the best it can. but it just ain't. Happy-sad to say.
>>42043274If a God is an authority above us or created us even, would it not understand us in every way possible?Sure, their perspective would be much more vast and complex than a human, but I don't see why it wouldn't understand human psychology if they created it.
>>42046526Yeah, but it's easier to understand god/universe through the tree of creation, I think.
>>42045103We came from that because smarter apes outbred the dumber ones, precisely because there was no intervention. If someone was overseeing the process they would make dumber individuals breed more to prevent revolution, which is what is happening in modernity.
>>42045103the biggest psyop is thinking we are humans / the meat suit.we literaly are gods / infinite beings that are temporarily incarnated here.only applies if you are a conscious being, not npc's obviously.
>>42049153>we literaly are gods / infinite beings that are temporarily incarnated here. why are we susceptible to mental illness then? it's one of the most terrifying things a person can experience, especially when it coincides with strange supernatural occurences and dreams.
>>42049323>why are we susceptible to mental illness thenthe human mind belongs to the meat suit, the awareness / consciousness doesn't.also that's why terminal lucidity is a thing.only happens for non npcs but you can have people that are full blown demented suddenly making sense near the end and remembering stuff the brain shouldn't even be able to store with the extensive damage.
>>42042631they're the planets and the stars
>>42042631You didn't plan-it, to be whirled around the sun...lord Surya = The sun in the sky...say hello! Shani-Dev = [Eyes Only] iykyk
>>42046526We created dogs and they're very few of us that understand their psychology. Just because you're bigger, stronger, smarter, etc. than another thing doesn't make them transparent to you.
>>42042631I am not concerned with the issue.To know anything about this at all is simply speculation. even knowing it is false.So pull your damn head in.
>>42042631So this world is an offshoot of the perfect divine realm everything originates from.Sacred masculine and feminine were created. So as men and women, we are called to be godly and to embody those godly virtures. Like for men, its protecting your women and children from predators and enemy tribes because they will humiliate you and rape your women. For women its being loyal caretakers and giving that pussy up..When these sacred gender roles work in harmony together, you have a perfect civilization. But when you have a freaky lunatic negro LGBT feminist death cult hivemind running the world.. That's the complete opposite of our sacred gender roles..So basically they're torturing the sacred divine masculine, corrupting the divine feminine (with their globohomo ideals) and turning the world into an abomination.The gods didn't leave they've just been looking for people who 'get it'.
>>42042631"If I’m going to adopt a god, I’d rather know starting out that it was a glove puppet. To me it’s a real god, there’s nothing that precludes a glove puppet from being a real god. How else would you explain the cult of Sooty? But a god is the idea of a god. The idea of a god is a god. The idea of Glycon is Glycon, if I can enhance that idea with an anaconda and a speaking tube, fair enough. I am unlikely to start believing that this glove puppet created the universe. It’s a fiction, all gods are fiction. It’s just that I happen to think that fiction’s real. Or that it has its own reality, that is just as valid as ours. I happen to believe that most of the important things in the material world start out as fiction. That everything around us was once fiction – before there was the table there was the idea of a table, and the idea of a table before tables was fiction. This is the most important world, the world of fictional things. That’s the world where all this starts. So I had an experience which seems to be an experience of this made-up, Basil-Brush type entity. It was devastating."https://alanmooreworld.blogspot.com/2014/08/alan-moore-and-gods.html
>>42042631Fuck Aristoteles. The guy fuked boys IN THE ASS. Poor boys. But yeah, you are right. You can sustenance by eating food and drinking water and some sunshine also helps with the sustenance. But other than that? Religion is pure cope. I'm not saying that God doesn't exist, but the way people go about this God thing is absolute a waste of time. But the thing is that to them it gives them meaning. To us is meaningless because we are smart, you know? We are aware, but to the golems? It's the thing that defines their very existence. Their whole identity is built based on their religion. It's crazy. This is why I say it is a cope. People want meaning in their lives and sadly people get exploited because of that desire. Don't worry about dogmas. Instead of dogmas try pay attentition to the things in life which will repeat themselves. I think the word that I'm looking for is patterns. Start to pay attention to patterns. You will see patterns that lead to good things and patterns that lead to bad things and it is up to you to navigate this world. I can say to you that christianity is not the answer, that's for sure.
>>42042631Yes and they are archons. You shouldn't call these beings gods though. Or worship them. Or make sacrifices to them.These 'gods' are just as retarded and shitty as the world they created for us humans. It goes to show.
The Gods exist but they are actually Aliens who come from the stars
>>42050875As above so bellow. The gods are incompetents. They can't even stop us from raching gnosis. aha Losers! We will be sources of light and they will be dead baterries aha
>>42050886They are eating, raping and torturing people right now while stupid faggots worship and sacrifice and celebrate their bread and circuses in Spiritual Babylon. Virtue signaling their toleration of subhuman faggotry and feminism! So smart!Meanwhile dudes are being raped in the ass and tortured and its mostly these people's fault for wasting everyones time with their retarded politics and faggy social justice movement.I forsee mankind going completely M.A.D. and destroying this world. The reptilians can only infiltrate and subvert and hijack peoples minds to get them to not do the thing that would save everyone from being enslaved.These people are actually helping the reptilians to get away with their crimes without realizing it.In the end, it'll come down to a white man to save this faggot ass world from all of these subhuman monkeys and reptilian rapists, won't it?
>>42042631>Are the gods even real?What is a God? What do you mean by that?
>>42051422Like the perfect embodiment of an aspect of human life, an a ruler over said aspect of life
>>42051447Oh, in that case I don't know. Like there's just some piece of fire somewhere or something that owns and controls all fire? Or some sort of dethatched metaphysical funny essence thing that has authority over what is or isn't funny? Yeah, I have no idea if that's a thing or not.
>>42050952>he still thinks "woke" is the enemyLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
