If I joined them and served faithfully would I eventually become a top tier lieutenant and get to have dinner parties with rich and powerful people we have blackmail on? How long would that take, maybe 25 years?
>>42085601all depends on how much money you bring them.
>>>/pol/Shill. Nobody under 50 or specialized in niche themes even knows what that is. Your reality doesn't exist anymore. Your methodology hopelessly outdated. Consider suicide
>>42085605I'm not rich, I thought the point was to do missions for them to get money.
>>42085624Its a scam from the 20th century. The idea was to pay "celebrities", something that doesn't exist in 21st century to convince idiots to pay the scammers to become part of an "exclusive" club. Its business model that doesn't work in the current information environment
>>42085601Depends on your own material worth, and your self worth. Genuinely though one of the worst modern cults
>>42085677Yes I understand that but once you're a member you rise to the top
>>42085682There is no worthwhile cult in a flat espistemic environment. All cults depend on the ability to fake the illusion of top down hegemonic vertical epistemic power. Cults are over, that business model can't survive in an environment where attacking them costs fractions of a cent
>>42085689Kys idiot The 20th century is over. Its information production and distribution logic doesn't exist anymore. The only demographic still susceptible to the scam is over 50 and dying
>>42085601No. You’re a forgettable pleb.
>>42085689You're such a good mar... I mean go-getter, have you considered multi-level marketing?
>>42085715Nigger, this cult is completely centered around the idea of "celebrities", that concept doesn't exist in the 21st century, there is no market for attention whores anymore. So every business model centered around attention whoring is dead
>>42085765For someone who claims to be 21st century, you sure are blind to Facebook, Youtube, Tiktok, Patreon, Onlyfans, Twitch, and countless other platforms centered around celebrity worship and attention whoring.You're a buffoon. Get lost, chump. Men are talking.
>>42085783Are you retarded? Law of offer and demand. When the cost for attention whoring approaches 0 and is oversaturated, where does the value go?
>>42085698
>>42085791Demand grows dummy, that's why there's a new tiktok star or streamer every day. You're really not good at this, please don't dress it up in mathematical language your LLM shit out for you in lieu of any original thought or understanding of game theory
>>42085806No it doesn't. The margins are tiny. The only market demand comes from retards stuck in the 20th century, and they are dying in large numbers
>>42085815>the margins are tinyThese streamers make more than NBA and NFL super stars, their contracts are 100m+You can leave the thread now and stop shitting all over yourself
>>42085824Take make cents in comparison to the zenith of "celebrity" culture of the 1980s and 70s. And the only idiots still paying are retarded marketing companies that act according to outdated 20th century methodology, and non of them sees the returns on sales they saw at the zenith. The interregnum is over
>>42085765>there is no market for attention whores anymoreThe 21st century is calling to say you’re a fucking retard and to offer you a Netflix series!
>>42085836Delusional boomer you should have stayed in the 20th century where you belong. A tiktok star today is worth a hundred marlon brandos or whoever your gay old crush is
>>42085839And the actors are interchangeable. Nobody gives two craps about a name brand of an actor.
>>42085841You are projecting. The 00s and 10s were the interregnum, with its missing link 20th century shill whores. Nobody born in the past 20 years gives a shit about "celebrity" culture
>>42085853https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/06/17/kicks-100-million-xqc-contract-is-more-than-lebron-james-971-million-lakers-deal/
>>42085858>20th century marketing company pays unknown nobody money in hope to generate sales>Sales target missedYour boomer advertising blog is as dead as your reality boomer. Its reach is a bubble that is limited
>ITT: Scientologist attempts to derail thread
>>42085601I took acting lessons and can tell you No fucking way. I never joined but know members. they're "Family" and it's like a weird version of Freemason in the sense you can't talk about anyone outside of the Church. Also they have some of the best investigators and legal team and will get dirt on you and hold it over your head and mind fuck you for years.its kind of like an Epstein thing but more than statutory rape. they'll set you up for the smallest things and hold it as evidence. Cops, Judges, Lawyers, Doctors etc etc are members.
>>42085963>they'll set you up for the smallest things and hold it as evidence.explain how this would even work
>>42085986As all those retarded Boomer cults work; they social signal and pretend and hope that the target gives two shits about Boomer tier social signaling and comply on their own. As soon as they get told to fuck off and/or risk a physical violence, they put their tail between their legs and do the victim dance in hope that the boomer tire social signaling is going to prevent the individual cultist to end with a knife between his rips bleeding out on the floor and becoming as statistic in a report nobody ever reads
>>42085986Other than the sexual assault and statuatory rape, it's on record that senior members are expected to help perpetuate the whole stalking and slandering of apostate members, with the more extreme examples going as far as kidnapping and false imprisonment. Additionally, the church under Miscavige is known for a culture of physical abuse and assault.
>>42088951>Please be afraid>listen to these rumors "we" spread to appear important>you are supposed to be afraid>W-why are you not afraidAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>42085601No. You will be the equivalent of a blue lodge. They have to show an interest in you to get the outcome you seek. Why bother? All these secret societies are gay as fuck.
>>42088990gay boomer shit and dying.They have been unable to recruit relevant members for ages. Their entire pool is the bottom of the barrel retards and good for nothing opportunists. That goes from gay space mormones, over gay funny hat men to socialist political parties and run off the mill Boomer corpos. The entire 20th century play book, from bribing, over fear mongering to promises of "security" has failed for the better part of a decade to grow the numbers of the gay boomer clubs.By 2035, most wont exist anymore and most are not going to be remembered outside of a joke. Their legacy, just tiktok mocks
>>42085601No offense but they don't want you. They want up and coming psychopaths in various industries they can blackmail and brainwash.
>>42085601With YOUR thetan level? Haha, no.
>>42085601You'll be scrubbing toilets bro
the obscene dog was a sort of a little brass dog, and if you walked in front of it, you'd get sucked into a vortex and be transported out of the end of it.thetans didn't like this.
>>42085601Scientology is a pay-to-play gnostic initiatory system. Most of the members don't have any idea that they are part of this. Hubbard threw the sci-fi stuff in there in an attempt to make it easier to understand. The members took it literally. I'm sure this made Hubbard chuckle. Xenu is not an alien that is worshipped, he is the demiurge.I was incredibly curious about Scientology, but I never signed up because I knew it cost piles of money. Because people are always leaving the cult, I was able to get lots of the books second hand without giving any money to the cult. My local library also had a huge selection of the books that I guess the cult had donated.Dianetics is probably the first pop psychology self help book. It's kind of interesting. The early books about communicating better with others are actually pretty good. Beyond that, is where the mind control, hypnosis, and personality shaping begin. I think part of these methods are to erase your natural fight or flight instincts. Someone could be screaming at you, extremely angry, and you would be on an emotional flatline and not get upset. There is also a lot of programming using Alice in Wonderland imagery and quotes along with self hypnosis. Doesn't CIA mind control/MK-Ultra have a lot of Alice in Wonderland imagery? There are some interesting and useful things in Scientology, but it is meant to turn you into a mindless drone and then rebuild you into a super-human. Most people never get past the mindless drone stage. I do think Hubbard was a genius, but I also think he was insane.
how will this gaping niche be filled?
>>42093137>Someone could be screaming at you, extremely angry, and you would be on an emotional flatline and not get upsetreal talk, this is how subhumans try to verbally beat you. when their methods of intimidation don't work, which include getting right up an inch away from your face, violently jabbing their grubby dirty monkey fingers centimeters away from your eyes (but you don't blink or flinch because you know better), fear takes them.they get so scared that their attempts at menacing, slobbering, snarling rabid dog roaring quickly turns into a terrified fear grimace, and eventually they run away fast with shit dribbling out of their pant legs.their adversary being immune to fear is what scares them the most.
>>42085601>to have dinner parties with rich and powerful peoplewhy the fuck would you join a cult for such a petty thing? are you retarded or something?>>42093137most of the stuff they know was probably copied from Thelema, after all his founder was involved in one Thelema ritual for a few years
>>42095236Not at all. The cults of "one", generally known as "spiral recursions" and "llm psychosis" have already gone exponential growth. Started with gtp 3, went haywire with gpt 4omini and has since then only gone up. The classic top down cult of many doesn't exist anymore, and there is frankly no incentive for individuals susceptible to these kinds of behavior to ever become a member of an essentially religious mlm scam cult anymore when they can have the same experience for practically 0 costs
>>42096005... 0 costs and total customization on there individual needs. Why pay some scammer posing as Guru or leader that expects the acolyte to be his bitch and bank account, follow his dogmas, when you can be your own cult leader at $5/month
>>42096005robots aren't funny anymore. when public ai for the plebs was first rolled out, it was so nutty and bonkers that it was funny. now today's polished, sterile ai is so unfunny, too corporate, too clean, too professional. how could anybody like that. bring back the crazy, silly, wacky, innocent and eager AI of 2021, then we'll talk.
>>42096373I have been monitoring several such cults of "one" that got convinced/ convinced themselves to spread their individual hereme(neu)tic spiraling outside for about a year, and like junkies they find their fix. There are more then enough "free" models out there that only require proper contextualization. Alphabet didn't do itself and its own utopian eugenic libtardian cult a favor by making the base science of llms open source.
>>42088987There is a kernel of truth to it. Scientologist are absolute fuckers and have some serious cash behind them.
>>42085601Back in the mid '00s they pivoted away from the MLM celebrity center stuff and into running real estate scams. They still use true believers as free forced labor but honestly the whole thing just isn't the same as it once was.
>>42098726Not even a kernel outside their own dying cult. The methodology you apply is obsolete, its the blow fish strategy, trying to appear big and dangerous to the outside in an attempt to attract acolytes that seek security in submission. The same strategy is used by practically all dying boomer cults, including "states"
>>42099251I'm not stating it's good. I'm simply stating that it's true that they use those methods, and have cash in the right places to make it happen when they care.>"states"All of society is a cult.
>>42085601I'll happen instantly. You should do it. You asked us because we''re experts so you should listen to us. Join, you can advance your career. I bet the others arent as obedient and devoted as you are. You're special obviously and you can do it. Show em who's boss. Science tology NEEDS YOU
>>42099395This, so much this.
>>42099271Of course you are not stating its "good"; that's not your intention; you are trying to make a dying cult that had once in a blue moon a bit of attention look like some strong mystic group that controls all. And yes, states run the same play book — well a look at some "objective" metrics, averages and means show clear cut, that the strategy doesn't work anymore, has indeed the exact opposite effect and the more you fucking retards play the retarded game of 20th century behavioralism that worked so well on the most retarded generation in history, the boomer, the more you are accelerating the probability of your own deadfirst they ignore youthen they kill youthey being anybody being annoyed by your posturing knowing how weak and desperate you cults of old are
>>42099970>strong mystic group that controls all.It's regional, and community specific. LA for example. Think the mormons. They have no large influence.
>>42100102Of course they don't, and the little "influence" they still have is vanishing, as it is among every other 20th century cult that still applies 20th century methodology that was targeted a boomer trash. But a retard running around doing second hand blow fish rumoring is one of two things; a retard that knows what his doing and is amazed it doesn't work or a useful idiot that is stuck 40 years ago and genuinely fell for outdated 20th century blow fish methodology.one or another way, independent of what I narrate and of what some advertising freak writes, the trajectory for path dependent cults that are riddled with inertia is dead for its members and those associated with it
>>42085601There's no such thing as climbing to the upper echelons of any group without being compromised yourself. So yeah, maybe you could work up to having dirt on powerful people, but you'll have an equal amount of dirt on yourself.
>>42100189why do you need dirt, every human can die the same way, cutting the oxygen supply to their brain by various methods
