Is physical beauty the most difficult thing to manifest and cast spells for? Even top tier magick practitioners rarely look extremely beautiful or handsome.
Nah nigga just get a good amount of sunlight, eat clean, drink waterMost people fail these things due to their passions.
uglyfags are mental inferiors and can't stop talking about gay shit like that which can be defined and known
>>42087309I wonder how much energy / MEST it would take to make a new body like brad pitt or ana de armas. Of course it would require somehow being born again.
>>42087309>Even top tier magick practitioners rarely look extremely beautiful or handsome.Because "magick" isn't actually real, but unattractive people will be much more likely to be into it because they have shitty lives they want an escape from.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder>>42087349This
>>42087309>practitioners rarely look extremely beautiful or handsome.Ahem...https://youtube.com/shorts/-8rUVnUMK7E
>>42088858>beauty is in the eye of the beholderthis statement has much truth layered within itjunk foods and junk entertainments and junk activities (social and personal) all cause a strain in the eye, eye being a sensitive transceiver component of the body, the sensitivity is lost when indulging in junko foods, thus there is a profound statement resounding from space for all who are sensitive enough to listen : "sunshine good, junk food bad"also, space, beauty in space, junk junks up the space with junk and vulgar noisewas hesitant to reply to OP's thread beacause of cringe computer generated image of a flute with no holes??! do better next time op, draw the image yourself after taking inspiration from computer generated imagery! reeeeeee
>>42088858>Beauty is in the eye of the beholderThat's a cope, there are proportions that are universally attractive.
>>42087309The ugly busted looking monsters who advertise that they "do magik" or are "spiritual" are usually not very good at it, or are just retarded and bad at shit in general.If you had a way to enhance your beauty with zero effort, why would you go around advertising it? Top tier ugly fag mentality.
>>42089513Looks shouldn't matter much. The eye is the gateway to the ego.https://youtube.com/shorts/q4dYmy55WBE
>>42087309here's a really harsh, bitter whitepill. it's a good thing, but most individuals would find it very unpalatable. but that's their problem.the classic ancients believed that inner beauty manifested outwardly. there are various glamor tricks used today, and before. there are magical illusory enhancements to make the user appear less ugly. but it's still fake. glamor is some weird trick to beautify ugliness. we all know that celebrities are usually ugly, and irl people around town look way better.who pushes the "beautiful people are arrogant and mean" and "ugly people have good hearts" narratives? exactly who you'd expect.sorry to bring a "lolcow" into this, but it has come to my attention that picrel is another victim of a particular attack on the whole anatomy that twists the spine, limbs, and even soft tissues, rendering the victim disabled. victims of this affliction tend to fall into severe disrepair and self-negligence, and lack self-value.but what do you see? fine features. a damn shame. wasted potential. someone who could have done much better things had their life not been sabotaged at an early age. this has happened to a few rare individuals.have you ever received mysterious hate from familiar people you've known all your life? have you burnt yourself out doing good and trying to appease them, to no avail? have you ever felt these insatiable haters are ugly and brutish? guess why they hate you. you have something they can never have.
>>42091571What the fuck is the problem with muh ego? God is beautiful. People who see God most often describe him as very pleasant to the eye (even if "inner eye" or astral) or glorious looking. Why would that be bad on a human?
>>42091703The ego is the accumulation of assumptions and delusions that you have. It's not the real you. It's from your human experience. The ego is dynamic, habitual, and illusory process—a "mental construct" arising from clinging to the five aggregates (form, feeling, perception, mental formations, and consciousness). It is seen as a "false sense of self" (anatta) that creates a subjective, separate identity, which serves as the primary root cause of suffering.
>>42087309No. I think it’s actually one of the easiest. Women are becoming more attractive due to use of subliminals, filters makeup and plastic surgery are also a female form of physical chaos magick.
>>42091675I have the opposite take. That beautiful people are often extremely narcissistic and selfish because they have a biological incentive to preserve themselves and their genes better while throwing others under the bus.
>>42093111Trips of truth
>>42087309I have heard about biokinesis and I know how to practice it. But I find it weird that almost no one talks about that kinesis. Other abilities like telekinesis are way more documented and is weird since biokinesis sounds extremely attractive.
>>42091675One word>>Richard RamirezSerial killer rapist cannibal and pedophile. Blessed with facial beauty that lessened his sentence. Women drooled over him, even though he was a monster. So what you're advocating for is discrimination.
>>42093243I do agree with you but then is there any psychological study that actually proves that there is a correlation between being good or evil and your physical appearance?
>>42091789lol at the chatgpt reply
>>42093649It's still true.
>>42093655No, it makes zero fucking sense. It's just a tool to demonize people's desires and keep them enslaved.If God wants something or is "I" focused "I am that I am" and manifests whatever he desires be it beauty, creation and many things more then it's divine and based? But if a human being does the same thing it's suddenly some dumb shit called Ego?
>>42087309If there were rich, handsome, playboys practitioners (celebrities or authors for example), they would be ignored anyway, and this board and every materialist dominated spaces would highlight cases like Crowley or Bardon and insist that no one interested on metaphysical transformation can be a everyday-man and be a solid person with grounded views (and if they encounter them, they handwave it as grifting con men and delusionals). You see what you want to see.Besides, this >>42087349 it's very easy to take care of yourself while being mindful of your higher power. Besides, i bet you already knew the kind of answers you were gonna get on this place, you're just confirming your pre-existing assumptions. Most of the people on this board are simply not aware of the mental world they already find themselves in.
>>42093684You are assuming the wrong information. We are all one. There is no "i", it's US. kill your ego.
>>42093695Wasn't Christopher Lee literally a Freemason?
>>42093869Explain why if God makes himself beautiful or fulfills his desires instantly "I want to create humans" that is no ego-ic but if a human wakes up and thinks "I want to be beautiful" or "I want this or that" it's ego.
>>42093892God doesn't talk to us. What you assume God wants, isn't true. If you read books written by people that speak for God, you are gullible and brainwashed. Do your own research.
>>42093913Of course he does. We exist so he wanted and made that. And countless people from all kinds of spiritual paths or those who had near death experiences communicated with God and he expressed wants, desires, concerns and he was almost always shown as gorgeous in appearance and sound.
Its probably the easiest but a cultural shift happened and makeup isnt considered magic anymore
>>42093928God is busy holding everything together. God isn't one thing; God is everything. Solid, liquid, gas, all spirits. Whoever is heard in people's minds is usually other spirits from the other side.
>>42093988>random dude from 4chan knows who God is better than millions of people around the world who had a near death experience or miracles happenSure buddy.
>>42094003>Believe whatever a large number of people believe in instead of doing their own researchOkay, sheep.
>>42094021>consistent experiences around the world, from young to old, regardless of wealth, sex, age>vs>some irrelevant retard on 4chan who has 0 evidence and just talks out of his assShit, hard choice.
>>42094100>People agreeing in high numbers is evidence for me>When someone disagrees with me I must show aggression and insecurityTsk tsk.
>>42094124No, it's just the number being "high" it's it being a consistent experience regardless of culture, age, sex, wealth, location or religion. Hope this helps!
>>42094138Sooo many people see ufo's and claim it's "aliens". That number is super high. So it must be aliens right?? ;)(Your logic is flawed) Think for yourself. That's what we should all do. If you think how the majority tells you to think, so be it.
>>42094224Bro are you retarded? If everyone around the globe, regardless of culture, time, media, whatever, has experiences with UFOs then yeah it is very likely to believe that UFOs aka aliens are real in some shape or form. What are you even arguing for?
>>42094235The spaceship in the sky isn't certainly ALIENS just because a large number of humans say it is. But according to your flawed logic, it is.
>>42094248A ton of alien/UFO experiences aren't about big spaceships. It's about people encountering life forms or objects they can't identify. This is what the word means. And it happening everywhere since the dawn of time seems to suggest that there are beings out there we can't explain or know about yet. This hard for you to comprehend?
>>42094252Popularity contests isn't proof. Stop projecting your low intelligence by calling others 'retards'.
>>42087309I don't think true beauty can exist in the physical at all. Even the most 'beautiful' humans are still very grotesque. The entire human body is really. I hate being in this filthy fleshy prison
>>42094288I need you to back to school and work on basic english reading comprehension. I did not say that popularity equals proof. I said that when a phenomenon appears consistently across cultures, locations, time periods, genders, ages and economic conditions it becomes extremely likely that there is some real substance behind it.I understand that you're desperately trying to look smart here but you need to read the text first, you dumb NIGGER.
>>42094309>Rage baiting at its finest.Where is a seething jannie when you need one?
>>42094321Not my fault you can't read. I did not say popularity equals proof. Hope this helps, retard.
>>42094330You're not convincing me of that. You're contradicting yourself. You pointed out that many people believe God talks to us so 'duhhh it must be true since so many people say so'. That's a popularity contest (which isn't proof). Then you misconstrued my comparison of that topic to the massive quantity of people claiming every ufo must be aliens. Same concept: popularity contest ISN'T PROOF. You assumed I don't believe aliens exist. And you respond with petty school yard insults. You're convincing me that you are very young and short tempered. You can't converse about topics without losing focus on the main points and being disrespectful. You may be too young to be here talking with adults.
>>42094375Nah, I told you that near death experiences and spiritual paths where people interact with God in a personal manner occur in all cultures, no matter of location, religion, age, sex, economic position or time. That shows consistency regardless of circumstances which has more weight than random dude (you) saying MUH OPINION IS BETTER PROOF!Low IQ sperg
>>42094422>MUH OPINION IS BETTER PROOF!You're not learning yet. You keep jumping to conclusions. I was talking about it and you took it like I was trying to argue with you.You can't control others, but you can control yourself. You should work on that.
>>42094448It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Near death experiences and spiritual paths that lead people to the same conclusions and experiences exist in all cultures regardless of circumstances, age, wealth, situation. It's consistent.
>>42094460In social sciences, it’s always possible to find a study that supports almost any conclusion.
>>42094476You have not debunked my claim. You only said that research can be misused or done poorly. If you wanted to debunk my actual claim you would need to address the data and existence of cross-cultural near-death experiences (or even religions/spiritual paths around the world) directly.
>>42093255There are none. But there are countless studies that confirm the halo effect.
>>42094486People tell you the same repetitive information...and that is convincing to you...?You might be religious if you agree with other people's research, and mass quantity of similar stories and testimonies. Many people die on the operating table in hospitals and come back to life with what they wanted to see. If they're religious, they expect religious figures on 'the other side', so that is what they see. And that's what they talk about. That's their testimony. The quantity can be in the billions, and still be wrong. Because so many people don't do their own research. They just lazily agree with the majority and assume they are doing things right.I think OP's topic was about beauty being ridiculously to manifest or cast spells for. We got way off topic :)
>>42094533>People tell you the same repetitive information...They don't tell me, it's something written down, observed and communicated for thousand of years. The fact that it happens REGARDLESS of the person's gender, culture, status in life or experience with other humans, shows that it is a consistent natural phenomena and not something that certain cultures just invented or came up with. So yes, if there are consistent natural experiences that almost all places in this world and people from all ages went through, that has more substance to it than a random guy on 4chan.
>>42087309>top tier magick practitionersdont busy themselves with occult tricks. Theyre out there actually building real shit.You need to understand that if something is made manifest in the spirit realm it will manifest in here as well. A psychopomp can bring spirits (the living thought!) out and into the world.
>>42094540That's why religion still exists. People get brainwashed by popularity contests, wishful thinking (faith), fear mongers, threats of violence and undesirable consequences, and false promises (heaven) entirely invented by high functioning sociopaths so they have no resistance from the masses.You don't have to believe anything I believe in. I would at least hope you think for yourself.
>>42087309>Is physical beauty the most difficult thing to manifest and cast spells for?No. If anything, some practitioners increase in health and so also looks naturally thorough their practice. Often not to any great degree, but it is an interesting side effect of some practices.>Even top tier magick practitioners rarely look extremely beautiful or handsome.Most people you'll ever hear of won't be the top tier. One of the things top tier can afford is to make sure no one but the people they care for personally will ever hear about them and won't disturb them.It's also not about difficulty but whether one cares. Sadly or not, most traditions require one to refine and modify their way of thinking and approaching the world, due to how being mired in material drives and pursuits makes it harder to seek the divine. In practice, it means that most, even if not all, practitioners who get far enough must rebuild themselves in a way they don't really give a shit about looks, fame, showing off etc as that hampers their further progress. It's also why you're less likely to find a really accomplished occultist among rich and famous elites, but they'll be likely a humbly living shmuck who nonetheless can always afford what he really requires at the moment.
>>42093235Because it's some bullshit. Real world isn't an RPG, you don't have special differentiation a'la RPG disciplines. Someone who gets fairly accomplished, enough to reliably manifest some effects, tends to manifest such either in boundaries of most skills of their tradition or in general. That is, they know a bit of everything and don't need to differentiate it as "biokinesis" but care about particular effect of particular technique.
>>42094716Wrong. The "real world" it's whatever we declare it to be, and knowing that everything is possible is enough to realize that and set yourself in the right direction. All limits are self impossed.
oh look they got the endless "yah huh vs nuh uh" chain rollin along.someone must have posted a truthpill.
>>42094962NTA but ill bite.What is a method of biokinesis that anyone can use to achieve their chosen form of beauty?
>>42095000focusing on beautiful, uplifting, productive, goodwill thoughts, intentions, and efforts.this is why ugly nasty reptos need to drink babby juice. they're utterly devoid of anything beautiful or productive. they just flat out lack it. they steal or "purchase" from others, then let the thing go to rot.but a real soul has what it takes to grow a garden the right way.
>>42094962>Wrong. The "real world" it's whatever we declare it to beFirst, there are limitation of consensus and willpower. Second, if it'd be exactly like how you say it, that reinforces my point since biokinesis and other such division would be self-imposed limitation.So, if I am right I am right, if I am wrong in the way you describe then I am even more right.
>>42094962in my world, i can breathe water and toxic gas without burns, i can outrun a motorcycle, and walk on the ceiling with bare feet.haven't figured out how to do it on camera yet, though.
I see some anons are replying to rage baiters in this thread. Be careful, the arguments with rage baiters never end.
>>42094962Fucking new age kids learned that reality is malleable and observation changes the observed - and think it means whatever bullshit they think of goes. That's what's wrong.
>>42095044I should have green texted the part i was referring to. Which is the "it's all bullshit". I don't get the bit about "consensus" or "will power", not really sure what you're referring to, but i guess it's a dualism. I missread your comment btw, but anyway, essentially what we call "biokinesis" it's simply manifesting physical changes, which can be done in any way, in any ritual, but it's better to adopt the most flexible perspective while doing it so it's easier to concieve of changes. And yeah, we're all "right", always, when it comes to relative stuff like this (methods, views, how we assert our worlds to be, we end up referring to same things or even agreeing without realizing it), but we will be wrong saying that 'it can only be done this way and only this way' because that's not true. Different methods are just different ways to intend, and what we call magick or manifestation it's part of what we have always been doing since forever, but extending and becoming aware of it's reach when you realize the biggest picture. >>42095000Checked. I like doing "magick" under a non dualism framework myself, so if i were to do that, it would also come acknowledging that this body of mine is an "ilussion", part of my imagined experience, and then intend-imagine the changes from there, asserting it. https://old.reddit.com/r/DimensionalJumping/comments/3e1w5y/the_imagination_room/
>>42095104>whatever bullshit they think of goes. That's what's wrong.Why? So many traditions, so many systems, so many "ways" to look at it, all of them yield (or can yield) results, so what does this mean? It's a perennial fact underlying all those things. It's all intend and volition in the end. Nothing impede you experimenting and fully commiting to experiencing the world in a certain way you want, because it's all available.
>>42095133There's many ways to look at things but it doesn't mean "whatever goes". Just because people affect things, doesn't mean every person can just declare whatever random thing and it'll be a fact.So no, things aren't just whatever people declare them to be. They can sure declare things and even believe it, but there will be practical considerations beyond that that will make certain things more likely than others.If it'd be this easy, any random person delusional or brainwashed enough would be superhuman ruler of the world. At the very least you'd have shit like what >>42095049 wrote about.
