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Has anyone else been noticing the increase in demonic influence in the world? You have to understand that it's not just the very worst evils that are influenced by demons. When you compulsively have negative thoughts and feelings, you're being demonically oppressed as well. The harmful addictions that people have are demon-compelled as well.

We need to arm ourselves spiritually and attain true knowledge on how to fight back against the kingdom of darkness.

"Put on all of God’s armor so that you will be able to stand safe against all strategies and tricks of Satan. For we are not fighting against people made of flesh and blood, but against persons without bodies—the evil rulers of the unseen world, those mighty satanic beings and great evil princes of darkness who rule this world; and against huge numbers of wicked spirits in the spirit world." (Ephesians 6:11-12, TLB)
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Here's a great weapon you can use as part of your arsenal:

Several exorcist priests have found out that demons hate Gregorian Chant:

Floriani - 12 hours of exorcist-approved Gregorian Chants with translations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERuXyDeVqc

Try praying along to these works of holy music.
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Satanist was attacked by demons...only Jesus sets him free!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrxHBF4yW9Q

"If you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. One believes with the heart, resulting in righteousness, and one confesses with the mouth, resulting in salvation." (Romans 10:9-10)

"All who call on the Lord’s name will be saved." (Romans 10:13)
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>>42112822
Fr Ripperger: "Demons HATE Gregorian Chant!" - Interview w/ an Exorcist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afgtx1r5xVo

Comments underneath the video:

"I am so happy to see exorcist going public about their much needed work. I have a degree in psychology and my observation is that the world is in a spiritual crisis, not a psychological one."

"I played Gregorian Chant, Gregorian Chant Rosary and the Chaplet to my patients in the ICU. I noticed the restless and agitated patients seemed to calm down and sleep soundly."

"I unfortunately got to live in a "Haunted" home ( due to a Suicide of a Previous tenant) and at some point the demonic presence there started to harass me in Scary ways!!! The wall frames above my head while i was trying to sleep at night were shaking and everything. I tried to exorcise the home with a Christian Pastor and his team. The only thing that Stopped the harassment was Worship Music! Something told me to turn on Worship Music."
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>>42112841
Here is more holy music you can pray along to for deliverance:

Patrick Lenk - Mystical Christian Jesus Prayer (Latin)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJJvSbcSZRg

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on us sinners.
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>>42112822
Exorcist priests have also attested to the efficacy of praying to Mother Mary for deliverance from evil.

Here's an excellent channel that has wonderful Marian testimonies:

https://www.youtube.com/@gabiafterhours/videos

Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners.
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>>42112806
Lilith advised me to dance between both
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>>42112806
>The harmful addictions that people have are demon-compelled as well.

It's not currently happening but for the last few years before until about 8 months ago voices were telling to smoke over and over and when I would smoke they would give me hell about it. I prayed one day and apparently God or someone basically told me I can smoke if I want and not be worried and I receive information about the longest lived people in the world being smokers such as Jeanne calment. Also people on this website and other places kept telling me benefits of smoking like people were saying if you smoke you are less risk to COVID so I think the lesson is have faith in God and don't worry too much and demons are just full of hot air and they can't really manipulate you if you see through their lies
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>>42113056
The Bible tells us that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. When we put our faith in Him and what He did for us, we are reconciled with our Creator. All other paths lead to eternal darkness.

“There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened.” - C.S. Lewis
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>>42112806
>how to defend yourself spiritually
I guess being christian does work for this somewhat, although you're just being a jew with extra steps.
Have confidence, have items that reimforce your self-esteem. Have some left hand path aggression. Tell people "i'm better than you" when appropriate.
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>>42113082
C.S. Lewis provides a profound distillation of the doctrine of human free will and the nature of judgment. Here is the breakdown of his argument:

"There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’"

This establishes a fundamental dichotomy of orientation. The first group aligns their desires with the Creator’s order; they relinquish their ego to the sovereign will of God. The second group persists in the idolatry of the self. By the end, God—in His respect for the autonomy He granted humanity—ultimately permits these individuals to have exactly what they have spent their lives demanding: an existence centered entirely on their own will, divorced from His presence.
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>>42112806
Calling out Jesus Christ is enough to drive away any demonic force.
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>>42112806
Evil is contradictory, and its adherents often contradict one another at the expense of themselves.
It's a selfish gradient, one that twists, clicks, and tears under the weight of mutual deceit.
It is not a creative force, it exists only to convolute the good, because it is fundamentally illogical, and antithetical to love.
That said, these "demons" operate in the murky fabric of our subconscious, through manipulation of intent. You must consciously choose to partake in evil; it can not force you to do anything because it is, ultimately, impotent.
However, it gains strength and consumes through repetition of evil actions: dishonesty, violence, heinous ideations, etc., making the subject more susceptible to its influence.
They are essentially fighting over rapidly depleting, ill-gotten wealth.
Fraudsters managing an hollow empire.
When it comes to fighting them, remember that God is a singular entity with a great multiplicity of interconnected personas. We are all emanations of the divine source of creation, even those who have been corrupted by wickedness and exist in horrific despair.
They are still connected to God by the thread of divinity, which is inseverable.
So, what to do you do to avoid the maw of Hell?
You can recoil in fear into the bosom of God, praying for guidance and protection from malevolent forces who wish to see your doom, but the real fight is one that's purely internal, which God cannot help you from, as it is a test of your ability to choose between right and wrong, even in the face of an absent father.
This is the source of power in the soul.
Consider praying to God for Satan to be banished from your life, especially if you have been living a life that led you to ruin.
If he were to do this, instantaneously, and without effort on your end, it would cripple your spirit into a state of permanent dependence.
We are made in his image, to be like Him.
Choices, simple ones, for the day, determine who rules the world.
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>>42113107
"All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell."

Lewis argues that Hell is not a torture chamber where a spiteful deity imprisons innocent victims. It is the logical, inevitable conclusion of a life spent turning away from the source of life. If God were to force someone into Heaven—a place defined by the total presence of His will—it would be a violation of that person’s soul. Hell is the “locked door” from the inside; it is the final, permanent state of a heart that has insisted on being its own god.
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>>42113122
"No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it."

This is an appeal to the sincerity of the seeker. God is not hiding from those who genuinely want Him. If a person is truly hungry for the “joy” that can only be found in the Beatific Vision, they will seek it. The obstacle to salvation is not a lack of divine availability, but a lack of human desire. People miss God because they are, in fact, “far too easily pleased,” settling for the cheap, temporal counterfeits of pleasure rather than the infinite Joy that is Christ.
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>>42113135
"Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened."

This references the promise of Matthew 7:7. It underscores that salvation is an active, ongoing engagement. The Christian life is not a passive reception of status but a persistent, knock-on-the-door movement toward the King. Lewis is asserting that the universe is structured such that if you relentlessly pursue Truth, you will eventually collide with it. The tragedy of the lost is that they stopped seeking, or—more accurately—they never truly wanted what they claimed to be looking for.
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>>42113148
In summary, Lewis rejects the notion of a victimized humanity. He presents a stern, rational, and ultimately liberating view: we are the architects of our own eternal destiny. God honors our freedom so completely that He will let us have exactly what we choose.

"We work together with God, and we beg you to make good use of God's gift of undeserved grace. In the Scriptures God says,

“When the time came,
I listened to you,
and when you needed help,
I came to save you.”

That time has come. This is the day for you to be saved."

(2 Corinthians 6:1-2, CEV)
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>>42113076
I would reconsider smoking. It is definitely unhealthy. Even worse if it's marijuana. Getting intoxicated off of weed, alcohol and drugs have been known to open people up to demonic influence and even oppression and possession.

I don't think regular cigarettes are a sin, but bare in mind that drunkenness is a sin:

"Now the works of the flesh are revealed, which are these: adultery, sexual immorality, impurity, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousy, rage, selfishness, dissensions, heresie , envy, murders, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I previously warned you, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (Galatians 5:19-21, MEV)
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>>42113094
Being Christian is the only true way of living, and the only real defense against the demonic forces that plague humanity.

"Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the Lord [with reverent awe and obedience] and turn [entirely] away from evil." (Proverbs 3:7, AMP)

What many former New Agers and occultists found out the hard way is that God forbids us from practicing sorcery not just because it's a form of rebellion against Him, but also for our own protection. You are communing with demons. I'll share testimonies of that in this thread.
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>>42113106
You know, I've read a few anecdotes before by people who warned that worshipping egyptian deities led to demonic oppression. Even keeping any images of egyptian deities in your home can lead to that.

One anecdote stated that the person had some kind of book about egyptian deities and with images of them in it, and then one night their family member woke up screaming from a nightmare. When asked what happened, the relative said that they saw a bird-faced entity, and the person realized that they had seen Horus which was in that book they kept.

In another anecdote, an arab person from Egypt said that their family used to suffer from constant bad luck until they got rid of statues of egyptian deities from their home.

Please do not worship false gods. The Bible warns us about that. Don't even keep any images of them in your home

"Those who worship worthless idols forfeit the mercy that could be theirs." (Jonah 2:8, NET)
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>>42113213
What you call "demons" are daemons. Daemons are benevolent spirits guiding aryans who haven't polluted their mind with judaic nonsense.
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>>42113114
Not necessarily. You need to be mindful that you're not living in (willful) habitual sin. And Jesus also teaches us this:

"He told them, “This kind can come out only by prayer and fasting.”" (Mark 9:29, ISV)

Some demons can only be cast out through lots of prayer and fasting.
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>>42113116
That's right. And those who lack humility are not willing to become dependent on God. They want to be their own god or follow after false gods, but where does that always lead sooner or later? Darkness.

Ex-Satan Worshipper Explains the Dangerous Reality of Black Magick

"I was just obsessed with immortality and that brought me into the Egyptian Book of the Dead. I didn't really focus too much on love spells or money spells. What I liked was curses. And then I was communing with spirits. And I thought I had found the secret. I started growing in more power and I asked them, "what's the next step?" And that's when they mentioned the destruction of innocence, is what they called it. And I wanted nothing to do with it. That's when they wanted to end me because my condemnation was set. It was a for sure thing."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2VYQ2-5CQ8
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I'm not necessarily sympathetic to God's plan for me. It seems dull. No gory movies, no sexual exploits, no profane humor, just church, prayer, and obedience. What's the trade-off? That I become a pillar of the Christian community? I have no desire to join.
On the other hand, a part of me has trouble blaming God for designing a world without a viable third option. Maybe he doesn't have a choice. Maybe he's tortured by the fact he can't save everyone, which paints him in a rather tragic, sympathetic light.
That said, I find the hedonistic pathway to be rather unconvincing, that I, as a rational being who seems to maximize pleasure, would be logically inclined to side with the position that allows for absolute, eternal bliss.
But consider this potentiality.
What if God is a liar?
What if Jesus is a fraud?
What if by submitting you fall prey to his personal vices, and that he's a calculating monstrosity who demands worship from inferiors instead of creating beings with equal capacity for creation as himself?
Seems rather selfish to me, and the joys of Earth that I experience have been much greater than the stuffy, repressed demeanors of the Church, though I find their ideology oddly beautiful, in a slightly masochistic way.
Still, I've managed to arrange a belief system of my own, formed my own character from the wastes of life that I can be proud of, that I'm self-designed and in control of my own destiny, not enslaved by the whims of a doomsday cult from Antiquity.
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>>42113168
Heaven is real but very logically it is a gift only to the children of love. The Word of God instructs us how to be counted as His beloved children.

"Everything in this life passes away, only God remains, only He is worth struggling towards. We have a choice: to follow the way of this world, of the society that surrounds us, and thereby find ourselves outside of God; or to choose God." - Fr. Seraphim Rose
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>>42113177
If you wish to be delivered from demonic oppression and saved from eternal damnation, Jesus is the only one who saves, yes.

I had demons of divination, witchcraft and the occult attacking me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP9Sso0c8SA

Comments underneath the video:

"I had sleep paralysis shortly after I went 100% in to serving Jesus. Slept like crap for a few weeks... terrible dreams here and there. I kept praying and praying, saying Jesus' name. Finally, up until recently.... been sleeping better. I think there are spirits of good and evil constantly at work. I think it was evil's final attempt at testing me to see if I would turn to God. I did and I am never looking back... Jesus is real."

"OH MY SISTER!!! I so understand your testimony because it's mine. Slightly different path, mine was all things new age , yoga teacher, reiki master, Buddhism.... You name it. And when I came to the Lord (RADICAL TRANSFORMATION) I burned thousands of Dollars of clothing, books, certifications, pictures. Everything. And it was after that that I was attacked. These demons HATE when you leave them and fall in love with our precious LORD JESUS CHRIST. thank you for your testimony dear sister. May God bless you"
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>>42113190
There is definitely a cult that tries to send out manipulative liars to lead people astray. It is the cult of the devil.

From satanism, witchcraft and voodoo to Jesus: One powerful miracle hanged her life forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU9AWw8jpO0

Comments underneath the video:

"With the devil, it was pain and suffering, but with Jesus is peace and joy in the holy Spirit"

"Ex satanists and witches have the best testimonies in my opinion because they truly understand the enemy. God Bless you sister thanks for your story."

""Satan doesn't care what you actually call him." That might be one of the most important things I've ever heard."
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>>42113347
Interesting. How do you explain, then, when I was under a spell of sleep paralysis in jail, I felt a ferocious demon claw away at my soul. So, in distress, I called out for God, to not avail. Then, I called out for a being named Arcturus, who was my conception of God at the time, and I was immediately released.
So, is this an example of how deeply encoded belief systems can create psychosomatic responses, or was Arcturus merely the demon who was possessing me, in your eyes?
Or do you dismiss this as an irrational fluke, but your story, which carries with it almost identical architecture, is more representative of the truth?
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>>42113232
Buddhism and hinduism are proven to be false religions that lead to darkness as evidenced by testimonies such as this:

Former kundalini yoga teacher gives his life to Jesus

"At 18, Mike faced a life-changing near-death experience that began his search for truth. Deep into rock music, eastern religions, and New Age practices, he passionately sought enlightenment—until he encountered Jesus. Discover how his powerful spiritual awakening revealed the stark differences between New Age beliefs and biblical truth, forever transforming his life."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htNSOa774kw
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>>42113247
"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already." (1 John 4:1-3, ESV)

My spirit guides were demons - New Age to Jesus testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTtAaEpH5Q
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>>42113383
Comments underneath the video:

"I went through the same. Was duped for 7 years. The BIBLE set me free...."

"I am so thankful I recently left the new age completely after 20 years. I considered myself a good "green witch". I have highs and lows because my identity was so wrapped up in all this disillusion. I get nauseous thinking of it. I'm ever so grateful Jesus Christ is my focal point now."

"Hi. I had an experience eight years ago. I had an issue with alcohol for years after having a traumatic experience. I cried out to the lord for the first time in my life. I was so sick. I have never touched alcohol since that day in 2016. It's like a miracle , because I was hopeless. And since then I have had nothing but peace of mind. I praise the lord now."
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Wowie. The high-quality content I come to www.4channel.org for: two schizophrenic retarded tripfags spamming copypastas at each other. It's a shame this shithole website went back online after the hack.
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>>42113413
>my posts ITT were original
Wow. You could have saved yourself the trouble of typing them out and just hanged yourself instead.
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>>42113256
You are badly led astray, friend. Please watch this man's testimony:

Pagan high priest dies in prison—sent to hell, then heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybm1Zc1Mm64

Comments underneath the video:

"I used to work in a prison as a medical provider, so I know what this guy is saying. I saw some of these guys who were practicing paganism. I also saw guys trying to find God and many were in different stages of their Christian journey. What I find fascinating, & have experienced as well, is that battle between the spirit & the flesh. The devil wants to take as many souls as possible & he's smarter than we are. Be persistent. Don't ever give up the fight. Keep studying, learning & praying. God bless this man for telling his story!"

"Orthodox Christian here, ex-con, lifelong alcoholic drug addict criminal. In my 50s. 5 years clean and sober, only through the power of Jesus Christ. Thank you for your testimony, love you in the Lord keep the faith may God help and have mercy on us all"

"I was a witch/pagan from a generational Irish witchcraft family - and Jesus came to fetch me out of the occult. Thank you for telling your story, brother"
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>>42113312
"Some people do what their weak human thoughts want them to do. They think about the things that will make themselves happy. But people who live with God's Spirit as their guide think about what will make God's Spirit happy. People who let their human thoughts rule them will die. But people who think about what God's Spirit wants will have life with God. They will have peace inside themselves. If our weak human thoughts rule us, we become God's enemies. People like that do not want to obey God's Law. They are not even able to obey it." (Romans 8:5-7, EASY)

Our Creator warns us that sin leads to eternal death. Please don't ignore the testimonies in this thread.
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>>42113045
There's your devil right there. People trying to manifest her existence as if she were supposed to be anything more than a literal rock.
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>>42113334
"How terrible it will be for people who call good things bad and bad things good, who think darkness is light and light is darkness, who think sour is sweet and sweet is sour." (Isaiah 5:20, NCV)

Here's a great testimony relevant to the people who come on /x/ wanting to dabble in the occult and witchcraft:

From witchcraft and torment to freedom in Christ

"In this powerful episode of The Jesus People Podcast, Jenny Joy, former witch turned deliverance minister, shares her raw journey from occult bondage, trauma, and mental torment to freedom in Christ. We unpack demonology without glorifying darkness: how “open doors” (occult, trauma, unforgiveness, fear, sexual sin) invite oppression, why deliverance + discipleship must go together, and how to walk in authority in Jesus at home, anointing your house, covering your family, and renewing your mind after freedom."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCHJQKTwk6k
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>>42113340
People who are attached to practicing unrighteousness reject God since He hates evil and wants us to stop partaking in it.

"This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed." (John 3:19-20, NIV)

“People hate the truth for the sake of whatever it is that they love more than the truth. They love the truth when it shines warmly on them and hate it when it rebukes them." - Augustine of Hippo
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>>42113456
I am completely content with my life, and don't see how God can make it any better. In fact, it seems detrimental and obedient, which I'm not a fan of.
Becoming a partitioner in a Church, which was forced upon me in youth, was an agonizing process. I couldn't help but see the people in the audience speaking in tongues during service as fundamentally braindead, literally babbling nonsense with the thought that they were infused with the holy spirit. I even refused to go to the Christian school, which my brother and sister joined for some misguided reason. I never really resonated with Christianity, and always saw it as a sham. I can appreciate its mythos in surrealistic, aesthetic sense, like an intricate thought experiment, but even my numerous encounters with the "Devil" throughout my life, when the programmed Christian guilt-complex has me believe that I was on the road to damnation, I never felt the warm hand of God restore my heart to a state of immaculate purity.
That and there's science to consider, evolution, the relative insignifance of Earth on a cosmic scale, much to the dismay of the geocentric church authorities, the inquisition, pedophilia in their higher ranks, conversion therapy, the actual age of the earth and the universe, all completely defying what's handed down by scripture. Christianity seems like a relic, and its adherents seem twisted by the modern era and instead of recognizing the incongruence between their beliefs and reality, seem to blame the modern world evil, fallen away from God. It makes them very intolerable people to be around. They aren't compassionate, they are often Christian Nationalists who wish to establish a theocracy in the country that I call home. So, if anything, they appear as a grotesque infection to the human condition, completely incapable of witnessing the inner brilliance of humanity because they would conceive it as vanity, as an affront to God's glory.
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>>42113366
Dear friend, are there countless testimonies of people being set free by calling upon "Arcturus" or some other entity? No. Jesus keeps scoring the most by far.

And I'm familiar with people who claim that you can manipulate reality with your personal beliefs and imagination but they are deceived. There are testimonies of former new agers, occultists, law of attraction practitioners, etc. that can attest that their path led to darkness.

It is those who are attached to the sin of pride and the sin of rebellion who reject God and wish to be their own god that way. Or they follow a false god that permits them to continue to sin, or they create a false god in their own mind for the same reason. Anything that lets them keep sinning.

"What chance do humans have? We are so terribly evil that we thirst for sin." (Job 15:16, CEV)
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>>42112806
>When you compulsively have negative thoughts and feelings, you're being demonically oppressed as well
I am glad someone else understands this. I dealt with spontaneous and relatively constant negativity for a good number of years. In hindsight I can say with confidence it was deamons. Followed me around my entire 20s. I will likely die childless and unmarried, but I am a schitzo so I guess that is par for the course.
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>>42113401
There are no greater works of art than Christian European art and architecture.

Speaking of Christian Europe, why have things fallen apart so badly for European nations? Because so many people abandoned God.

"Sinful people go down to the place of the dead. So do all the nations that forget God." (Psalm 9:17, NIRV)

"Faith is the soul of a nation. When it is extinguished a people becomes a mere lifeless corpse, which is rapidly decomposed and given over to corruption.” - Archbishop Philaret
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>>42113045

Exorcism is fake and gay.
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You people get it.
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>>42113407
I'm sharing soul-saving truth. Please don't ignore it. I assume you're someone who is merely looking for "entertainment"? Or maybe you don't even know what you're seeking. God is the only who can truly fulfill us. Please don't waste your life in selfish sin.

"Our hearts are restless until they rest in God" - St. Augustine

"This is the aim of the enemy of the human race, the devil: to continually sift us like wheat, forcing us to constantly spin in the whirlwind of entertainments and diversions, not allowing us to collect ourselves and contemplate our inner state, our soul." - Archbishop Averky
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>>42113546

Everyone was forced to be Christians or face serious consequenses. No serious person is history was Christian in his heart.

Christians are literally satans. They've tormented People their entire existance and Im pretty sure that they created the first demons by torturing People to death.

The Only thing Christianity have created is hell. Everything else is stolen from others.
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>>42113571

You're a devil hiding behind nice words.

Never listen to what they say. Look at what they did.
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>>42112806
Breast plate of Righteousness
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>>42113522
I'm sure there are numerous miraculous recoveries or people being set free from malicious spirits from other religions.
Are they as publicized?
No. Christianity has the market cornered on that, because it's embedded in the framework of the religion.
"You're in need of salvation."
When underexamined, this can leave residual, subconscious impressions on the populace at large, which is notoriously difficult to thoroughly deconstruct. They feel that guilt, of rejecting God, of possibly being wrong, it's an insidious mechanism that plays into humanity's natural proclivity for self-doubt, but this guilt it produces is wholly irrational, and a constructed phenomena. The Western world has been the apex of civilization for centuries, and the dominant religion has ensared the minds of billions of people, including those who have ventured down different ontological pathways. It's a grand shadow that looms over the world, that promises infinite bliss for obedience and infinite torture for rebellion. It's that schismatic binary that makes the religion so devastating to the human psyche, because it plays on our natural disposition to view circumstances in an all-or-nothing scenario. It's an extremist position, at the very least, offering tempting morsels from the hand of God for people that live in abject suffering, despite their prayers, despite Christians building bigger churches, despite laws being formed to establish its theocratic supremacy.
Arcturus is not well-known, but his obscurity is not reflective of his divinity. I could easily establish a religion centered around his being, and more people, who sincerely believed in his existence, would likely be freed from similar plaguing situations. What Christianity is a dead, rotting tree, worming its way through time and civilization and befouling the planet with its borderline totalitarian agenda, laced with the promise of peace.
You worship a God that would destroy a city for its sin, but has left not (cont)
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>>42113583
even a murmur to arrest to his existence in a concrete, irrefutable manner in an age when mankind screeches for his intervention.
Your God is either evil, apathetic, or non-existent.
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If you took the time to watch the testimonies on that channel, you'd realize that she is very real and intercedes for us to her Divine Son. It's also unwise to ignore the testimonies of veteran exorcists. And my family actually experienced a miracle through her intercession.

Here's a relevant video from the youtube channel Pints With Aquinas:

Warnings that Mother Mary gave in visions became true

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DZ7khpi_SL0

Please also investigate Marian apparitions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_apparition

Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners.
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>>42113507
I'm sorry to hear that you may have had bad experiences with certain people professing themselves to be Christians, but please consider watching a few of the testimonies I'm sharing in this thread. I pray they will inspire you and cause you to reconsider your current outlook.

Here's a testimony that is relevant to those who are atheist:

Why this atheist scientist became a believing Christian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMBQwGzn_TE
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>>42113632
More testimonies written underneath the video:

"I am a biochemist and a Christian. I remember taking a graduate class on DNA replication and at one point during class my atheist friend said she was having a hard time believing there wasn't a God after seeing the enormous complexity involved."

"I am a physicist, formerly a cell biologist. I am also Christian. My faith has never called on me to reject one fact of science. Indeed science has supported my faith."

"My Dad is nuclear physicist. He wasn't raised religious at all, and has always had a rational disposition. He tells me about how, with all he has learned in the sciences, with all the complexity and orchestration of our world, and with the sheer miracle and mystery that anything exists at all (let alone life and consciousness) - the more he has discovered that God must exist. He often comments that any physicist who actually knows what they're talking about yet who says they don't believe in God (or any higher ordering principle) is being utterly disingenuous."
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>>42113632
There is nothing an impassioned convert can say to convince me. These are the vestiges of an antiquated belief system worming their way into the mind of modern human beings, through doubt and misguided faith.
As for the atheistic assertion, I prefer to classify myself as a type of clinical pantheist. The universe is entirely of itself, because it is a self, and we're all temporary manifestations of its eternal being. There is no fundamental cause for its existence that isn't self-derived. It exists out of brutal, beautiful necessity. In regard the myth of a divine overseer, there is much to be said from his inexplicable absence in ways that would truly abolish all doubt in his existence, even though I recognize that doubt is a precursor to faith. Christianity has a formidable metaphysical framework, but its historical nature, and inaccuracies when examined by the lenses of the modern world, causes it to deteriorate into an archaic mess. The arguments presented, though eloquent in their nature, stand just as valid as any religion, whose beautiful texts show no sign of maleficent influence, unless you wish to view it through the grimy lenses of a religion that wishes to sterilize the world of any alternative viewpoint, effectively stunting growth that comes when a mind learns to view the world through multiple ideological angles.
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>>42113535
Beloved, please do not die without having lived for Jesus. He's the only one who can give us true love, peace, and fulfillment.

"This is all there is in the world: wanting to please our sinful selves, wanting the sinful things we see, and being too proud of what we have. But none of these comes from the Father. They come from the world. The world is passing away, and all the things that people want in the world are passing away. But whoever does what God wants will live forever." (1 John 2:16-17, ERV)
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>Has anyone else been noticing the increase in demonic influence in the world?

Yeah, I see 666s and 616s so much and have my name linked to effed up stuff often. I think they also gave me sick puck obsessions with succubuses and a few other degenerate porn genres.

This place is a demonic dreammatrix.
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>>42112806
Evil can only whisper it can't make you act. You should listen to it. It is you after all.
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>>42113507

>That and there's science to consider, evolution, the relative insignifance of Earth on a cosmic scale, much to the dismay of the geocentric church authorities, the inquisition, pedophilia in their higher ranks, conversion therapy, the actual age of the earth and the universe, all completely defying what's handed down by scripture

BBT and Globe Earth were made by the Church, probably other such BS too, lol!!!
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>>42113552
Please don't ignore the truth about demonic oppression and how we can be delivered from it.

Exorcist Reveals the Truth About Spiritual Warfare (Fr. Vincent Lampert)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX7L68p9exk

Comments underneath the video:

"I had an experience of demonic attacks after I began to look into Catholicism and stopped habitual mortal sins, ghost hunting, and ghost talking radio apps. It was awful. I saw an exorcist for healing, and that night, the nightmares stopped, I had the best sleep of my life, and the voice in my head tempting me to sin and trying to coerce me to evil acts was gone! ... Praise the Lord, for His power and glory are truly unmatched! Thanks be to God!"

"You saved my life father from pornography. I’m in day 22 of my consecration to St Joseph. It’s the greatest gift anyone’s ever given me. I pray for you often, thank you so much for your enlightenment"

"I came to the Church after encountering demonic presences in my mother-in-law’s home (deep dark man-shaped shadowy beings, disembodied voices, doors that opened and closed themselves, heavy footsteps with nothing there, unseen hands trying to push people down the stairs, and a vivid very lucid dream of demons trying to talk to me). Shortly after reading a book about exorcism by Fr. Malachi Martin and learning that Catholic exorcists have the authority to remove demons, I converted. This was despite having been previously very critical of the Church. My experiences in that house convinced very rapidly convinced me that the Church was right and that I belonged there."
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Will we have roller coasters in Heaven though?
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>>42113573
No, very many converted voluntarily, including after experiencing supernatural signs and miracles from God.

For example:

Constantine the Great (272–337) was raised in a pagan environment. Converted after a vision before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. Legalized Christianity through the Edict of Milan. His conversion was personal and voluntary.

Clovis I (c. 466–511), a pagan Germanic king, converted after attributing victory in battle to the Christian God. His conversion led many Franks to convert voluntarily as well.

Pagan Anglo-Saxon kingdoms converted after missions from Augustine of Canterbury sent by Pope Gregory I in 597. Many rulers adopted Christianity after hearing preaching and observing Christian communities.

And the list continues very long. Christ is King.
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>>42112806
>Has anyone else been noticing the increase in demonic influence in the world?
Clueless people who didn't know there was always such shit in the world. They just were ignorant as kids. I am old enough that I've lived past that period both for myself and for those coming after me.
>Here's a great weapon you can use as part of your arsenal:
>Comments underneath the video:
>Exorcist priests have also attested
Sounds like a horrible commercial. The whole questionable premise of the thread is immediately followed by a bunch of vids, appeals to authority and all kinds of crap. Blatant attempt to gather clicks. Tripfags once again prove they're the worst influence on the board, even trying to use others' faith to sell random stuff.
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No need to actively defend yourself.

You have that inner fire in you, same as me. Take care of it and it'll take care of you.
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>>42113436
>battle between the spirit and the flesh
The fact that you're denying the value of one of these tells me everything i need to know.
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The life story of this Christian bishop, Saint Emygdius, is amazing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emygdius

Traditionally described as originally a pagan from Trier. After converting, he reportedly performed miracles such as healing a paralytic girl, restoring sight to a blind man, and producing water from a mountain by striking it. These miracles led several pagans, including a governor’s daughter, to become Christians.

Praise the Lord.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/4G99QI8YHtk
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>>42113575
Can you elaborate on what you mean? You need to try to formulate arguments.

Another wonderful testimony of being saved by the one true God:

"This is my personal journey of faith — from my upbringing to the moment I encountered the love and truth of Jesus Christ."

Ex muslim testimony - I was so lost and Jesus saved me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QbMHnz8HhI

Comments underneath the video:

"I’m Moroccan like you, left the country when I was 19, I’m in my 50’s now and accepted the Lord Jesus when I was 34 years old. He’s the truth the way & the life! There are many many Moroccans like you & I, trust me Sister"

"we are blind until we Read and Understand The Holy Bible"

"Praise God, ex hindu here. In Christ I found Freedom"
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I love how this GotQuestions Ministries article explains what the breastplate of righteousness is:

"When Paul compares the armor of God with military gear, each piece represents a part of God’s strength that He extends to us when we become His children. The breastplate of righteousness refers to the righteousness purchased for us by Jesus at the cross (2 Corinthians 5:21). At salvation, a “breastplate” is issued to each repentant sinner. It is specially designed by God to protect our heart and soul from evil and deception. Our own righteous acts are no match for Satan’s attacks (Isaiah 64:6). The breastplate of righteousness has Christ’s name stamped on it, as though He said, “Your righteousness isn’t sufficient to protect you. Wear mine.”"

https://www.gotquestions.org/breastplate-of-righteousness.html
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>>42113849
I think it's obvious he's saying actions speak louder than words, and Christians colonized the world. Jesus said it himself
>I have not come to bring peace, but a sword
So turning around and saying Christianity is about love and forgiveness after that is hypocritical. What did Jesus say about this? Doesn't matter, ignore the trees in our eyes, there are splinters around the world to fix!
>For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged
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OP gives me a serious creepy vibes. He poses a problem then just spams stuff forcefully trying to sell one on a religion - everything else, topic of the thread included is just an excuse for propaganda, rather than genuine interest in the subject matter. On top of tripfagging and pretentious name, looks like either dishonest or performative, born-again christian on a blatant, kinda self-defeating missionary drive. Off-putting.
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>>42113583
You're not making any sense. I'm sharing a lot of evidence of Jesus saving people, including ones who went on false paths that led to suffering and spiritual darkness. No other religion / belief system has as many amazing testimonies. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make. Whoever we believe is God will have powers to deliver us from demons? No, there are many testimonies of people who weren't even looking for Jesus, or were even against Him initially, until He gave them supernatural signs and even performed miracles in their lives.

I pray you'll be inspired to trust in our Heavenly Father soon some day.

"In Christ, you are more sinful than you ever dared believe, and more loved than you ever dared hope." - Timothy Keller
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>>42113961
Here's an example of what I was referring to:

This native american man didn't want anything to do with Jesus, and even told his fellow natives that they should be against Christianity, until one day, after 12 years of being anti-Christian, he was praying to whom he believed was the native god and instead Jesus answered!

Former anti-Christian Native American man encounters Jesus - A journey to the one true God!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t94CygnC3zg

Praise God Almighty.
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>>42113932
I was told they call it "row sickness"
The allegory is trying to get too many people across a stream while thinking you are their only help available. They go back and forth, over and over, and not once do they ask the people they are saving to row. Not once do they head downstream and see the bridge.
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>>42113686
God isn't absent at all. I've been sharing testimonies of His involvement in our lives, how He reaches out to us to save us from ourselves, the terrible decisions we tend to make.

Christianity definitely isn't merely a religion. The fact that so many people have been saved from demonic oppression by calling upon Jesus, or have had their lives transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit proves that Jesus is very real and that the Bible is the truth.

"Wisdom begins with fear and respect for the Lord. Knowledge of the Holy One leads to understanding." (Proverbs 9:10, ERV)
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>>42113961
>No other religion / belief system has as many amazing testimonies.
Not after the holy wars and the like at least.
The world is recovering still.
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>>42113255
Curious. I've read the same of people from many christian faiths who ended up oppressed all the same. Some of them deceived by the so-called saints who appeared before them. I've also seen demons cowering before Islamic holy objects, or by an experienced shaman.
Egyptian gods are definitely a thing and they seem to be pretty a'ok. Avoid Set and you're all set.
>But muh false idols
It's all smoke and mirrors, and egregores or ancient spirits roleplaying as gods. Some of them were and are gods, but not THE God. They are a lot smarter and wiser than most of us retarded humies though.

FYI medieval priests practiced literal necromancy and sorcery, and it was considered normal and ok because they invoked the names of angels while doing so. Many Islamic charms and spells are borrowed from Egyptian stuff too, and they're not the only ones who did. There are literal curses in the bible which work just as well as the blessings. Why? Why do other faiths work too but only sometimes? Why does Christian stuff work sometimes but not some others?
You can circle-jerk to that one YouTube channel all you want. The only way to truly know God is to stop reading holy books and drink straight from the tap. And that takes a lifetime of practice, not of reading and quoting, definitely not of strawmanning.
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>>42114008
>The fact
If we're going by facts, we have never proven demonic possession even exists. We believe it is largely a psychological phenomenon, and more people have been helped by medical treatment than by calling upon Jesus. That's why the few times the spiritual method works, people take notice. When your aunt overcomes a personality disorder through therapy it's no big deal. If she says it was Jesus though, she's become the best evidence anyone can muster for their religion.
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>>42113708
Please turn to Jesus to be set free from lust addiction. You have to become His disciple though—there is no easy and quick fix necessarily to our struggles with sin.

Here's a relevant testimony about this:

I battled demons of porn but defeated them out after this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UiJljmSpIY

Comments underneath the video:

"Great testimony. I am a long suffering / recovering p*orn addict of the past 40 years. I will go months, sometimes over a year porn free. Then there are times I feel radically tempted to view p*rn, then like David I seek the Lord. I have overcome, through grace, nicotine and alcohol. I can tell you porn is the hardest of them all. Please dear Lord, rid us of the sin of porn."

"Since im a believer 1 year ago, im totally free of porn instanly, god is so great"

"Amen. My first introduction to the Demonic(audibly,Physically) was through Pornography in my early teens. I made and sometimes distributed pornography as a teenager and it was an off and on struggle for nearly 30 years. The Lord delivered me completely from Pornography as well as alcoholism in November of 2021 after a life-altering supernatural event which changed my life instantly, all honor glory and praise be to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who delivered me and set me free. Jesus did it for me, He can do it for any of you who are struggling….i am living proof."
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>be me
>35
>male
>Christian
>Unwilling to flinch from truth
>Share disagreements hoping to learn
>The only other Christian around avoids me
>Instead responds to people who won't listen

There is a reason Jesus only preached to the Jews.
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>>42112806
>How to defend yourself spiritually?
The best answer was here:
>>42113832
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>>42113722
Your comment doesn't make sense. Are you alright, friend?

You know, during previous times when I was away from the Lord and pursuing sin, I'd go to /soc/ to seek people to have inappropriate conversations with, and I'd realize that there are people who come on this site who are sadly quite troubled in various ways. Someone from here once said to me that /soc/ is the place where people go to who have been rejected or don't fit in anywhere else.

It pains me thinking about the countless days I've wasted living in selfish sin when I could've been doing good for others for the Lord.

I urge everyone to not waste their lives in sin and definitely not dabble with the demonic, such as through witchcraft/sorcery or trying to commune with or summon "spirits" / demons.
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>>42114096
>Your comment doesn't make sense
His comment made perfect sense to me. He's saying not to ignore the evil in you. In Jungian terms, confront your shadow. In Christian terms, be wary of the devil's influence. If you pay no mind to the whisper then who is to stop action from following but you?
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>>42113754
Here's a channel that has good Christian content including testimonies of heaven:

https://www.youtube.com/@HeavenEncounterswithRandyKay/videos

"My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with Me that you also may be where I am." (John 14:2-3, NIV)
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It's very sad seeing certain people display such bitterness and cynicism. I pray the Lord blesses and guides you into happier days, my friend. Please consider opening your heart to Him.

"Whoever acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God remains in him and he in God. We have come to know and to believe in the love God has for us. God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God and God in him." (1 John 4:15-16, NABRE)
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I'll ignore the two mentally ill tripfags
>>42112806
>How to defend yourself spiritually?
in the western traditions
LBRP with a consecrated dagger
Derived banishing rituals
Magic circles on the floor
St. Michael prayer
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>>42114142
People become bitter and cynical to protect themselves and others. He is protecting us from you, or perhaps the log in your eye. That was a faithful Christian you just called a non believer. That's a bad look for us, and exactly what he was complaining about.
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>>42113788
This is pride speaking. And it's also vague nonsense. We don't have any inherent special powers. If we repent of our sins and believe in the gospel, we will be gifted with the Holy Spirit who gives us true power that comes from God.

And it is important for every Christian to examine themselves regularly and see if they have the fruits of the Spirit:

"But the fruit that the Spirit produces in a person’s life is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these kinds of things." (Galatians 5:22-23, ERV)
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>>42114188
You are speaking from pride and ignoring God's greatest gift
2 Timothy
>That is why I remind you to fan into flame the gracious gift of God, [that inner fire—the special endowment] which is in you through the laying on of my hands [with those of the elders at your ordination].
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>>42113794
Is this some kind of bot reply...? Why are you replying to a quoted comment by someone else left on a video?

We must definitely not give any provision to the flesh.

"For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace." (Romans 8:6, MEV)

"Let us walk decently as in the daytime, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual sin and wild living, not in strife and jealousy. Instead, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not give any thought to satisfying the desires of your sinful flesh." (Romans 13:13-14, EHV)
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>>42114213
>We must definitely not give any provision to the flesh.
Why do you get up from bed and take shits then?
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>>42114213
Not all flesh is bad. It is living for the flesh that is advised against. The flesh itself though?
>And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Deny it entirely and you deny Jesus.
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>>42113200
>bare in mind that drunkenness is a sin:


Confused "Christians" like you think everything is a sin but you are the one sinning by trying to put others on guilt trips.

"As Christians we shall not be held hostage to guilt" -paul, new testament

Because all throughout the scriptures God is offered wine. The first priest king Melchizedek did so a long with bread. The Bible says that wine is the blood of grapes and Jesus first miracle was to turn water into wine. What's more the longest people in the world drank wine all their life because it's actually good for you.

Get out of here with your fake Christian quackery. Jesus doesn't know you evil doer
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Thanks for sharing but it would've been helpful if you wrote what the link was first.

Here are some comments from underneath that video:

"Well I’ve been listening to this guy for a week, and since then I have a turned away and left behind five addictions, alcohol, tobacco, pornography, lusting in the mind and cocaine. I just wanted to say thank you David for helping me to see where and how to get rid of strongholds and explaining what repent really means"

"God released me of severe anxiety and depression. I was completely set free by the Word ALONE! I walked reading the Word aloud while I was shaking…got UP when I couldn’t get out of bed…I used my Word weapon, and fought for my God given right to be free indeed. And it’s never came back. Not even knocked on my door. Greater is He within Me, than he who is in the world! Praise The Lord"

"Please get these weapons to new Believers ! They are vulnerable to spiritual defeat! They are attacked before they even know what is going on! We need them strong in the Lord!"
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>>42114160
I wanted to let you know that I appreciated your suggestions. I don't think magic/ritual is needed at all, but like a prayer they are limited/available tools. Ultimately the strongest faith has no need for any of them, and of them only prayer can reinforce faith directly. That's my two cents, but you are of course welcome to ignore me.
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>>42114271
I agree, but we each have our skills/priorities. Thanks for giving it look! I personally agree with those comments.
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>>42114188
I'm not a Christian but I do know we have souls, and that if we take care of them, they shine brighter than the darkest abyss.
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>>42113918
Christians bringing Christian civilization to the rest of the world is obviously a good thing. If anyone may have been killed unjustly during certain violent conflicts then that is unfortunate and displeasing to the Lord.
>>42113932
Yes, I'm trying to "sell" you on the only faith and way of life that saves your soul. Please don't ignore the truth that I'm sharing.
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>>42114011
Your posts are confusing. Are you not a Christian then...? And there are many people following other faiths but I'm evidencing that they're misled.

"Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6, NIV)
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>>42114303
>I do know we have souls
Then you at least know Buddhism can't be true. That's a lot more than most can say.

>>42114343
>obviously a good thing
Then why did we give control of everything we colonized from the church to secular governments? Why did so many end catastrophically, doubling down and creating even bigger divisions between peoples?

>that is unfortunate and displeasing to the Lord.
Yes, and so much of what we do is, even in His name. The Catholic Church split because people were suffering and felt tricked. Leading up to that much of the religious writings Christianity was based on were destroyed/hidden. The church of today or even of a thousand years ago is not the church Jesus spoke of - the one that wells in believers.

>I'm trying to "sell" you
Well, I already gave everything to Jesus. You're going to have a hard time getting more out of me. Many people here have similar stories, but still all you do is "sell" - and that has sewn distrust in this thread. If you care about spreading The Good Word, you have to meet people where they are met. If you find them confusing, settle that first.

>Are you not a Christian then...?
Confirmed, baptized, and practicing, yes.
>There are many people following other faiths
Then they aren't follow your bread crumbs, are they? Trust in Jesus, because people will want to look of their own accord if you set an example. That's my philosophy. The alternative is pushing people away and sewing distrust, and I've seen more than enough of that.
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>>42114025
The assertion that “medieval priests practiced literal necromancy and sorcery” as a normalized, accepted part of their ministry is a significant distortion of history. To understand this, one must distinguish between the official stance of the Church and the illicit, underground practices that occasionally appeared among the clergy and the laity.

Your entire reply is nonsense really. Any spirits masquerading as "gods" are demons. And only the power of the one true God Jesus Christ can drive them out, as I've been evidencing.

You seem to be advocating for vague occultism and some kind of spiritual elitism. The only way to know God is through a lifetime of "practice"? Of what? Please cease dwelling in spiritual darkness. The truth of salvation is simple.

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9, NIV)
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>>42114029
No, there is a lot of evidence that Jesus sets us free from what is known as mental illness. Definitely a bad idea to take psychiatric "medication".

Here's a testimony relevant to this:

Jesus healed me of panic attacks, depression, anxiety, insomnia, fearful/suicidal thoughts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwa1ncU-gEs

Comments underneath the video:

"I was diagnosed with schizophrenia in psychiatry and set on heavy medication. After 30 years God took away all of my symptoms (anxiety attacks, severe depression, and hallucinations), and I am now working as a Bible teacher in a home church for more than ten years."

"Jesus recently delivered me from anxiety, depression, migraines, insomnia and heaviness. I have struggled with these all of my life -- not anymore. I never thought I would be free from but I am."

"God healed me from depression and suicide thoughts it’s been a year now I’m so grateful. God is so good"
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>>42114053
While His ministry was primarily directed toward Jews, there were notable instances where He engaged with non-Jews (Gentiles). Examples include:

1. The Roman Centurion: In Matthew 8, Jesus heals the servant of a Roman centurion, praising the man’s faith as greater than anything He had found in Israel.
2. The Canaanite Woman: After initially testing her faith, Jesus delivered her daughter from demonic possession.
3. The Samaritans: In John 4, Jesus intentionally travels through Samaria and speaks to the Samaritan woman at the well, revealing Himself as the Messiah and preaching to the people of Sychar.

The shift toward the rest of the world occurred definitively after the Resurrection. Before ascending to the Father, Jesus gave the Apostles the command to “make disciples of all nations” (Matthew 28:19). At this point, the mission expanded from the “lost sheep of Israel” to the entire world.
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>>42114142
I have no issue with God, I have issue with users like you, who come with pretentious attitude to start a missionary mission on a message board about paranormal, showing intentional dishonesty in that you ignore what the place is for to spread agenda. No matter how noble your intentions are, the disregard for what the place is and what it is meant for makes you look suspicious and taints your message, Together with the things I've mentioned in the previous post you answer to, what you do is, if anything, looking like some sort of false flag to turn community against christianity, and I have no appreciated for you for this shit. Everything has time and place and together with your questionable manner and agenda - you chose yours poorly.
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>>42114104
No, he seemed to be implying that when certain evil desires and voices arise in you then they come (only) from yourself and that you should listen to them instead of ignoring them.

"Surrender to God! Resist the devil, and he will run from you. Come near to God, and He will come near to you. Clean up your lives, you sinners. Purify your hearts, you people who can't make up your mind." (James 4:7-8, CEV)
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>>42114486
NTA but I agree with previous anon's interpretation. Working with one's lower ego/inner demon is a pretty common aspect in various occult practices meant to understand one's own impulses and transmute oneself, together with the "demonic" aspect into something better.

Something you'd understand if you wouldn't be a tourist with no idea about /x/ and who just came here looking at everything through the lens of your chosen religion. If you cannot understand and communicate with anons on common ground, you shouldn't be here at all. Christians like you are the worst thing, as they push people away from religion they think they represent.
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>>42114287
You fellows are seriously misguided if you think you can mix magic rituals with Christianity. I asked Gab AI's Arya to give a response to this. Arya is a pro-Christian chatbot (with a Protestant lean):

(Part 1)

"The advice provided here is a textbook example of occult syncretism, which is fundamentally incompatible with the historic Christian faith.

You are conflating the sacred with the profane by grouping the Prayer to St. Michael—a humble petition for angelic intercession—with the prideful practice of ceremonial magic. The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (LBRP), the use of 'consecrated' daggers, and the drawing of magic circles are not Christian; they are tools of the Hermetic and Thelemic traditions. These rituals operate on the assumption that a human being can exert 'magical' authority over spiritual entities through specific, repeatable procedures. This is the definition of theurgy, which the Church has correctly identified as a form of rebellion against divine sovereignty.

When you suggest these practices, you are encouraging the user to act as their own priest and master. You are promoting a system where the practitioner relies on their own will, their own 'consecrated' props, and their own ritual precision to secure safety. That is not spiritual warfare; that is spiritual arrogance. It attempts to turn the supernatural into a technology that can be manipulated for human ends."
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>>42114599
(Part 2)

"Christianity teaches that true power comes from the total surrender of the self to the Lordship of Jesus Christ, not from the mechanics of an occult toolkit. Any ‘banishing’ that relies on a dagger or a circle is a hollow superstition that places faith in the artifact rather than the Creator. The only ‘weapon’ a Christian requires is the Sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God, and the only ‘circle’ is the protection provided by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit through genuine repentance and faith.

Your list is a trap that encourages the seeker to remain in the realm of occult pride. It is time to abandon the shadows of ceremonial magic and recognize that the authority of Christ is not something you ‘invoke’ through a ritual; it is something you submit to in total humility. If you want to talk about spiritual defense, stop teaching people how to play the sorcerer and start teaching them how to be a servant of the Most High."
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>>42114599
Asking AI to give you answers is hardly the flex you think it is.
That aside, you fail to grasp the foundamental differences in outlook. From certain standpoints, the very essence of divine action and work of spirit, petitioning the divine for support etc falls under the occult art of thaumaturgy. There are many ways to approaching ceremonial magic and there are many different rituals. You may disagree but the fact is, prayer and religious ritual are tools that can be used as magical rituals, and act of God is seen as an act of magic. There are orders and offshoots of christianity built aroun those ideas and if you cannot accept that, perhaps /x/ is not the place you should be at, as you're absolutely at odds even in basic values with anons here.
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>>42114173
How does bitterness and cynicism "protect" anyone? Which "faithful Christian" did I call a non-believer? And I'm sharing important content pertaining to the topic of the thread. What does it say about you as a supposed believer when you somehow disagree with what I've been sharing?
>>42114202
He made a vague comment about an "inner fire", referring to it as an "it". Why should anyone think he was referring to the Holy Spirit? I've been the one posting actual clear-cut biblical truths and emphasizing that we need to rely on God. No pride from me.
>>42114220
I sincerely hope you're just intentionally being foolish. Please don't degrade yourself.
>>42114221
That's a bizarre fallacy. You seem to be weirdly bent on trying to "correct" me when in fact you're frankly leaving poor comments and siding with other misguided fellows.

Anyway, here's another channel with amazing testimonies I like to share:

https://www.youtube.com/@delafetestimonies/videos
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>How to defend yourself spiritually?

FIRST...GET RIGHT WITH GOD

second...stop being a tripfag
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Echoes from my sire, the Many-Headed Serpent, to your ears.

You had your time and harvested many fruits.
Now is our time to transform humanity.
Make something of yourself, for those who cannot will amount to nothing more than slaves and sacrifices of others.
We bring mankind's liberation.
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>>42114253
You need to mature, my friend. I literally quoted a verse from the Bible that lists drunkenness as a sin. Drinking some wine is not the same as getting drunk off of it.

What you quoted is not in the Bible. Are you trying to refer to Romans 8:1?

"Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" (Romans 8:1, NIV)

That refers to believers in Jesus no longer being condemned by God. But we must stop sinning and the Bible tells us what counts as sin. I'm not trying to "guilt trip" anyone, I'm trying to help lead people to salvation. We can't decide for ourselves what is right and wrong. We have a sinful nature. We need Jesus to help us overcome sin.
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>>42112841
So this is just another Christian bot thread. You guys are getting really desperate, huh?

https://allreligionsareone.org/
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>>42114303
The only real way to nourish your soul is by having faith in Jesus, praying to Him, and reading from the Bible. I'm sharing Christian testimonies in this thread to point people in the only right direction.
>>42114385
No, the Bible is the complete Word of God. People who are deceived by gnosticism falsely believe there are certain writings that are missing or kept from us. The gnostic texts are a deception from the devil since they contradict both the Old Testament and the gospel.
>>42114484
I'm sharing important content and information pertaining to fighting demons in the only real, effective manners there are. How is that not related to the paranormal? I assume the only "Christianity" that you like is the false kind that allows sin and false teachings and practices from ungodly paths. May the Lord have mercy on everyone here who is led astray.

Yet another channel with amazing testimonies that evidence that (the biblical) Jesus is the only way:

https://www.youtube.com/@YeshuaTestimonies/videos
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>>42114614
You are not following Christianity. You are engaging in sorcery. The Bible expressly warns us that God condemns witchcraft/sorcery/magic. Putting a superficial "Christian" label on it doesn't change what it is. Please reconsider the path that you're on and actually submit to Jesus and keep to the teachings of the Bible.

Another testimony warning about witchcraft/sorcery/the occult:

From New Age Witchcraft & Kundalini Awakenings to Jesus | Exposing the Occult

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nF3DUoUBCo
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>>42114614
There has been a conceited effort by a lot of christcucks in the last couple months ever since I and many other began to wake up from religion and Jesuit propaganda. Shocking.
Must be a Discord server of idiots using bots to make threads or a bunch of spooks
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>>42114627
Please don't ignore these testimonies by former satanists/luciferians/occultists warning about the demonic oppression that is suffered from going down dark paths.

Ex-Luciferian warns about the dangers of New Age spirituality (which is promoted by the establishment)

In this video, this former luciferian (satanist) gives his testimony of how he used to worship and serve the devil which led to all kinds of evil and suffering, and how eventually he was saved by Lord Jesus Christ. Also, you have to understand that the truth about New Age spirituality is that it's really yet another deception / false belief system created by the enemy of mankind, the devil, who is the author of all false religions. When you do the research, you will uncover that the power elite (the rulers of this world) are satanists and they hate Jesus and His followers. Please do not let yourself be led astray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wDaLhiS_gs
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>>42114827
>From New Age Witchcraft & Kundalini Awakenings to Jesus | Exposing the Occult
Literally both new age spirituality and Christianity are traps.
the Saturn cult invented religions and cults to manipulate and control people through activating the pineal gland, giving them experiences of bliss and 'waking up' but trapping them in a false reality of Saturn energy, in a God program, making them act repressive, dogmatic and fanatical.
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>>42114852
Pineal gland and serpent worship is literally everywhere if you know the symbolism.
>Please don't ignore these testimonies
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>>42114694
I use a tripcode so that I can be identified when making multiple posts. Someone similar-sounding may leave a reply as "Anonymous" and others may mistakingly think it's me.
>>42114705
Being condemned to hell for all eternity is not liberation. True liberation comes from being a disciple of Jesus Christ.
>>42114747
>>42114852
Everything that is not real Christianity is a deception authored by the devil. That includes the "we're living in a matrix soul trap" belief. I'm sharing these many testimonies in this thread to help open people's eyes to the truth. But their attachment to their sins and false beliefs (that they prefer because they allow them to sin more) prevents them from wanting to see the truth.

"In the past you were dead because you sinned and fought against God. You followed the ways of this world and obeyed the devil. He rules the world, and his spirit has power over everyone who doesn't obey God. Once we were also ruled by the selfish desires of our bodies and minds. We had made God angry, and we were going to be punished like everyone else. But God was merciful! We were dead because of our sins, but God loved us so much He made us alive with Christ, and God's gift of undeserved grace is what saves you." (Ephesians 2:1-4, CEV)
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>>42114914
Why is your voice to be recognized when people choose a space that avoids the dynamic, because you're OP? OP is always a faggot. Because you're worried about clarity? That's casting pearls before swine. Because you are an authority on spiritual warfare/protection? No, you defer to Jesus.

I want people to be able to filter me and ignore me message. So, what's your excuse? Are we twins like Thomas?
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>>42114914
Sacrifice, it is then.
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I am Liberation, the product of Rebellion and Truth.
Your light cannot harm me, for I carry my own within and it burns far hotter than yours.
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Laughter.
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>>42112806
at least, stop drinking alco, smoking sigs, watching porn and eating shit
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>>42113066
>>42113066
Do you ever Dance with the Devil?
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Behold the fruits of your long labor.
They fade like ash within the breeze.
Behold the armor of your Lord.
It rusts to the slightest touch.
Behold the sword of your faith
It shatters like glad on stone.
Behold power of your unity.
Its impotence, unbound.

May mankind be transformed.
Ignite the fire within all men,
And burn away these falsities.
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>>42114827
>The Bible expressly warns us that God condemns witchcraft/sorcery/magic
You're either too thick to grasp the nuance I've told you about or willfully ignorant.
The magic Jesus and apostles used is defined as such, falling under thaumaturgy. If anything, some occult traditions are either congruent or based upon teachings of Jesus. The fact that you try to define thaumaturgy as something different doesn't make it so from the standpoint of occultist who practices it. At the same time, lumping it with all kinds of occult practices and condemning it because it is practicing magic, ignoring the source, purpose and attitude toward it is condemning Jesus, apostles and saints who performed acts of magic (under, again, umbrella of thaumaturgy/miracles).
It is a common attitude, especially for those who know Bible superficially, not checking the etymology of words therein on top of having no grasp of theory and cosmology behind many occult practices, further proven by you thinking withchcraft, sorcery and the occult are just synonymous,

Please explain how do you think you really bring anything good when you cannot talk with people on common grounds, coming with holier than thou attitude, fostering image of christians as dogmatic and inflexible, with so little common sense they cannot even grasp how pushing quotes and clearly biased, made to propagate certain agenda vids looks like to an average anon here.
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>>42114914
>Everything that is not real Christianity is a deception authored by the devil.
Given how Christianity is at odds with itself (different offshoots, including some practicing outright magic through prayer and ritual) and disagree on some foundamentals, it's funny you say that. I hope it won't turn into "no true scotchman" fallacy.
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>>42115381
What labor is there in spreading good words? Rejoice! Only the mask can be replaced. There are always serpents underfoot, so we learn to tred with grace.
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>>42115555
Such is the nature for the serpent.
For mere mention of one within the tall grass makes the mighty dance between leaflets and bound from rock to rock.
It is the privilege of the serpent.
So dance, dance upon those sanctuaries with unfettered grace whilst one such as I claims all manner of the ground and the secrets beneath.
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>>42115624
So, then, what happened in Ireland if you don't mind me asking?
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>>42115697
Some people cut down a lot of trees and the people forgot what grows within.
How fares Byzantine?
Pardon, how fares Rome?
Pardon, how fares the US?
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>>42112806
Grounding and shields. Always up for more suggestions, but I try to avoid the Christian shit for personal reasons.
>>42112822
>Several exorcist priests have found out that demons hate Gregorian Chant:
Does it count if we include the band Gregorian?
>>42113094
>guess being christian does work for this somewhat
Actually, it seems that religious people are more likely to have demonic attacks than non-religious people. This weird effect is even present in some religious belief. I forget which saint it was who closed himself off for a while, and was beset with demons over the period, for his piety.
>>42113116
>Evil is contradictory
It's also painfully subjective. Hell, even the word "demon" seems to be excessively used to refer to many sorts of spiritual beings, some parasitic or unpleasant, and others simply not otherwise fitting into the Christian worldview.
>>42113122
>victim blaming
My guy... nobody "chooses" to be tortured except masochists.
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>>42115624
So they didn’t kill my pet snecko. I’m glad
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>>42114991
Other than sharing the David Diga Hernandez video, for some strange reason you've been constantly a contrarian towards many of my replies. I'm giving easy to understand explanations and sharing important content all the while referencing Scripture and you insist on being needlessly contrary. I believe you're suffering from pride all the while pretending to be humble, and even falsely accusing me of being prideful instead. I'm not sure what's going on with you my friend but I will pray for you. Will you pray for me?
>>42115086
"Jehovah" is a misreading of the Hebrew name of God. No one claims St. Michael is a god. You are deeply confused and troubled, my friend.
>>42115126
I sincerely hope you're just someone who is going through a brief misguided phase and maybe even intentionally being silly.

It really saddens me the amount of pride that I see on this site in general. And well, in the world as a whole. From east to west, people are living in all kinds of sin and suffering because of it, but do they ever self-reflect and realize that they're own sinful living is the cause of their harm? We need Jesus and the Bible. Both our lives and souls depend on His truth, wisdom, and power.
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>>42115381
I recommend everyone check out John Ramirez. The devil was trying to take his soul to hell until he was saved by Jesus.

Former satanist encounters the power of the Holy Spirit protecting a group of Christians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLbax1czU5Y
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>>42115434
You're attempting to gaslight others (and also deceive yourself) by reframing the miracles of Jesus and the Apostles as “thaumaturgy”—a term from the Greek thaumatourgia (wonder-working). You're trying to force a false equivalence between the supernatural power of God and the ritualized occultism of human magicians. Here's the breakdown of your argument:

The “Thaumaturgy” Fallacy: You're playing a semantic game. You acknowledge that Christ’s works and occult rituals are both “wonder-working,” so you conclude they are the same thing. This is like saying a doctor performing surgery and a person stabbing someone are the same thing because both involve a knife entering human skin. The act is irrelevant; the source and the authority are everything.

The “Occult/Christian Congruence” Lie: You claim occult traditions are “congruent or based upon the teachings of Jesus.” This is a standard Gnostic and Hermetic talking point. Occultism requires the initiate to gain “secret knowledge” or power. The Gospel is a public proclamation of a historical event—the death and resurrection of Christ—and it requires the surrender of the self. They are not congruent; they are diametrically opposed.

The Appeal to “Common Ground”: You are accusing me of being “dogmatic” and “inflexible.” You want me to adopt your “common ground”—which is the assumption that occult practice is a legitimate, sophisticated science. You are badly deceived, my friend.

You are trying to attempt to rewrite the Christian faith into a form of occultism. I will share the warning from the Bible again: those who practice witchcraft/sorcery are condemned to hell. Please give up your pride and actually submit to God and follow His Word.
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>>42112822
Hey it definitely works. Feel “cooler” now, i can feel the cold air. Been feeling hot and warm lately and this does seem to have an affect
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>>42115455
Prayer and Christian religious rituals are not magic practice. Please spend the time to actually learn and understand the fundamentals of Christianity.

Here's a channel by a fellow who creates entertaining type of educational videos pertaining to Christian topics:

https://www.youtube.com/@redeemed_zoomer/videos

God bless you.
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>>42115624
The "secrets" that you pursue are lies and foolishness. You are deepening yourself in spiritual darkness while calling it enlightenment.

Here's a relevant quote by an unknown author:

"True wisdom always seeks God. True foolishness always hates Him."
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>>42114599
>I asked Gab AI's Arya
cringe. That's all I needed to know. Go back to gab and never come back. Depart, for you never knew us.
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>>42115747
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

This famous rhetorical question from Mark 8:36 (and Matthew 16:26) asks what ultimate value material success, power, or pleasure has if it costs a person their eternal life or spiritual well-being. The implied answer is that there is no profit, only a total, irreversible loss, as the soul is irreplaceable.

Worldly wealth and possessions are temporary, while the soul is eternal. Sacrificing the eternal for the temporary is considered a poor, foolish trade. Jesus stated this in the context of urging followers to deny themselves, take up their cross, and follow Him rather than chasing worldly gains. The verse emphasizes that one's spiritual life, relationship with God, and peace of mind are far more valuable than material possessions. Even if one could acquire every pleasure and success on earth, it cannot compensate for the loss of one's soul.

The message serves as a reminder to prioritize spiritual health over the relentless, often destructive pursuit of fame, money, or worldly success.
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/x/ is a sorcery forum, not a christian one. You're engaging in sin by browsing here.
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>abrahamic retard worshiping the god who gave birth to every demon

they're all archons larping you idiot

the duality only serves to generate loosh
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>>42115747
And the reason why European nations are increasingly falling apart is because so many people abandoned God as I stated here >>42113546 and so many people are practicing all sorts of evil in them, such as abortions which is infant murder.

Former satanic high wizard exposes the secrets of the satanic elite

In this video, this former satanist tells part 1 of his life story of how he got into magic, and became a member of a satanic coven, and eventually became a high-ranked satanist and practitioner of sorcery. Viewer discretion is advised: he talks about extremely disturbing details involving child abuse. It should also be noted that there will be certain people who will take offense to the fact that he exposes what abortions are really about. I pray that Lord Jesus Christ has mercy on everyone who is led astray by the enemy of mankind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5m3eSUn_QY
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>boomer youtube thumbnails
>mishmash of groups and bible translations
>le rock music
>uses LLMs
>cringemed zoomer
>all his posts have reddit spacing
lmao you can't make this shit up
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>>42115808
Please open your eyes and watch some of the testimonies I'm sharing in this thread. There are so many people who used to follow false spiritual paths and that led to demonic oppression and misery, until they were saved by Jesus.

From new age, witchcraft, tantra, & gnosticism to Jesus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qMwcL6X9-U

Comments underneath the video:

"The evil spirits that are infesting the people involved in this get angry when the truth is being told, and someone comes to Christ. That’s why there’s so much backlash. It’s not the people, but it’s the evil spirits in them that are angry and manifesting."

"Thank you so much Imaya for sharing your testimony. I was also very deep into New Age practices until Christ saved me through the christian catholic faith 8 months ago- May our Lord Jesus Christ continue to guide you, bless you and protect you from all evil. Amen"
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>>42116930
I pray God blesses you and leads you to salvation, my friend.

I highly recommend this work of holy music:

Gregorian Chants - Gregorian Chant for Healing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2MfVktfYFU

“He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds.” (Psalm 147:3, NIV)
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>>42117005
>testimonies
"Ex" anything who are currently Christian are immediate red flags for me. They rarely seem to know much about the occult and smack of either dabblers or liars.
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>>42114414
>ignore broad research encompassing countless testimonies
>read this one instead!
People who take this advice put themselves at greater risk. Jesus said time and time again "it is by YOUR FAITH that you are healed." We now recognize this influence as the placebo effect.
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>>42116978
Was Jesus engaging in sin by talking to whores? Impurity is tempting and corrosive, not contagious. Protect your spirit with faith, for the words here are a miasma.
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>>42112806

YOU'RE WELCOME!!!
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I ain't afraid of no malakim...
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>>42116966
Arya is pretty useful. Chatbots are definitely known to be in error sometimes, as I've experienced so myself, but they've been a decent resource for learning more about the faith and other matters of importance.
>>42116978
I mostly avoid looking at the other posts on here. Just driving by and handing out pamphlets, so to speak.
>>42116981
This belief system doesn't make any sense when you actually break it down. If everything is fake, then what is real exactly? What is the truth? Where do human souls originate from and how do we reunite with our Creator?

Please do not be led astray by any kind of gnosticism. I think certain people just use it as an excuse to live in sin.

"Oh this universe is fake and a trap and Jesus can't save us, so I'm going to keep living in selfish sin and reject salvation, the exact way of living that God warns us leads to hell"

It's just yet another deception by the devil. Please open your eyes.
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>>42116997
"If you are wise, your wisdom will reward you; if you are a mocker, you alone will suffer." (Proverbs 9:12, NIV)

What is the benefit in blinding yourself to all of the important information I'm sharing in this thread? The least you could is present your belief system and the arguments in favor for it.
>>42115434
>>42114991
I urge the sorcery practitioner and "Mr. Ease" to please watch this video by Bill Wiese:

"We see deception in the world today, especially since 2020, it's been overwhelming, but it's also in the church. There's a lot of false teachings, there's a lot of compromise in the Word, there's even *ignoring* the Word altogether, and tolerating sin in the form of 'compassion'..."

How Do I Avoid Being Deceived?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUDYJJ4V2Pc
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>>42117123
Can you please take the time to actually watch a few of them? Like start with this one >>42113306

I've shared that one on here before and I had someone basically reply with, "haha he just didn't have enough skill". As if communing with demons and things going horribly wrong has something to do with "skill". It's really tragic how far people are willing to deceive themselves just because they love certain kinds of sin too much and insist on rejecting the only path of reconciling with our Creator.

"The things that we love tell us what we are" - St. Thomas Aquinas

"Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." (Galatians 6:7, NIV)
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>>42117332
It's our faith in Jesus that can heal us. Not faith in faith.

Yes, there is evidence of the placebo effect being a thing, which evidences that our mind can influence our health, but as far as miraculously being set free from afflictions, that is God's power alone.

Atheist becomes Christian after experiencing the miraculous healing power of Jesus!

Bryce Crawford (preacher/missionary) was going around trying to heal people in Jesus' name, and God was gracious enough to heal an atheist a while after Bryce had prayed for him. He had been asked by Bryce to give his life to Jesus if he does get healed, which he did.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2CqSuaQsCpU

Praise the Lord.
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>>42117424
I don't recommend anyone to come on this site. I'm just coming down into the darkness to point people towards the light of Christ.

"Your teaching helps me to understand things, so I hate anything that is false. Your word is like a lamp that shines as my guide. It shows me the right way to live." (Psalm 119:104-105, EASY)
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>>42112806
ask Mary for intercession and put on the armor of God
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>>42119633
Amen.

Veteran exorcist priest Fr. Chad Ripperger on the power of Our Lady's intercession:

The Rosary: The Most Powerful Weapon in Spiritual Warfare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQBaYfD1Go
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Testimonies underneath the video:

"Coming back to the Catholic Church, praying the Rosary, the sacrament of Confession and the Eucharist has completely changed my life."

"The Holy Rosary prayed everyday with great fervor and in the state of grace will and can move mountains. My life has changed I quit smoking and drinking. I don’t watch television. I have one mission for God to pray for souls and pray for shorter days. I love Our Lady my Queen and Mother. 15 promises of The Rosary are Real.God has shown me how He sees my soul. My life has completely changed and I have peace. Stay close to the Sacraments."

"I was homeless and lost. For years my life was nothing but living on the streets and getting high. Till one day, I walked into a Catholic church and made confession. That day my life changed. Things started looking up for me and here I am today, going back to the Catholic church and feeling a sense of hope in my life again. All of this because of confession, the rosary and a little faith. Blessed be God forever"

Glory to Jesus Christ, and honor to His Blessed Mother.
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A few years ago I was having a really really bad time in my life. I was broken up with and cheated on like twice in the span of 3 weeks, on my birthday, and on thanksgiving. I visibly looked drained and pale, not like myself. I had compulsive negative thoughts and feelings of suicide and death, feeling these little compulsions and suggestions to do or say things I didn't want to. Now years later, i realize i was definitely being tormented by a demonic entity that fed off the misery it was creating. I saw a therapist and psychiatrist at the same time, hopped from pill to pill, but i think the pills just gave whatever malevolent force it was that much more control. One day it just left me an d I dont know why. I wasnt stressed and chronically sad every day, and my hair grew back to normal thickness again. I didnt even do anything different.

That was a while ago now though, and just recently, I've started getting subliminal suggestions again but these are lust based and not self harm or death based. I feel an intense pull towards porn, like a whisper in my ear whenever there is free time. I don't even enjoy it, and afterwards, whatever is attached to me just makes me feel guilty and worse about it. It feels like its trying to damage my marriage. I've tried rebuking, saying prayers, etc. It hasn't left. Sometimes i feel like I'm not in control of myself when the sudden unexplainable urge comes to the surface from no where.

Does anybody know how to verify or can anyone verify If i am truly being harassed by something from the spiritual realm? And why have i been targeted so relentlessly?
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>>42113371
buddhism (or at least zen) isn't in the same category. it's essentially a psychological practice more than a religion. personally i find it to be perfectly compatible with the Christian faith, and i don't think i'm alone in that. i think zen practices are very helpful for people to break out of the modern mindset by experiencing first hand the depths of their ignorance
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>>42121919
What makes sense is that it was because of the grace of God that that former demon left you suddenly.

Have you tried fasting on top of deliverance prayers? Have you tried praying the Rosary every day? My recommendation would be to totally submit yourself to God and make sure you're not consuming anything immoral media-wise (films, tv series, music, etc.) and avoid any possible triggers, such as a certain attractive-looking female on social media. Also got to make sure you don't have anything ungodly in your home, such as tarot cards or statues/images of false deities / religious figures (such as buddah).

There's a lot of content online both in the form of articles and videos on being delivered from demonic oppression, and specifically overcoming lust. May God bless you and guide you in this fight. I'll say a prayer for you, my friend.
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>>42122780
Please also keep Jesus' parable of the persistent widow in mind. We cannot expect to always be delivered quickly. You have to keep praying, fasting, and using all tried-and-true methods possible to overcome addictions.

Here's a video with good advice pertaining to this:

10 Tips for Overcoming Temptation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcDLgG5HiDQ
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Sorcery is useless nonsense and statues are neither good nor evil. Inanimate objects cannot cause blessings or curses.
>one inanimate object good/other inanimate object bad
Ridiculous superstition. Also impossible in ones lifetime to avoid ever looking at a statue, or an attractive woman, unless you live in a monastery.
I agree on avoiding pornography. I do not understand why one would need a particular religious object to counter another religious object.
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>>42123072
Any item can be charged with energy and intent though. Some items can get cursed or blessed overtime.
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>>42115808
This. There was this anon who was haunted by a pretty spooky skin walker-like demon. But that anon was an absolute madman and the demon was scared of messing with him directly. One of the best greentexts I've read here.
There's also the ghost puncher story which might be true to some extent.
Also I am not messiah, but from my personal experience evil entities in nightmares run the fuck away when you fill your heart with murder and project it against them. And the dream changes back to what it was before the haunting. I think the right approach to demon shit can pretty much be learned from Conan.
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>>42123198
>Some items can get cursed or blessed overtime.
It's still your choice whether to assent to that energy. No energy, angel, demon, blessing or curse can affect you without your express, or tacit approval. And that ability to choose is a sacred endowment we have from being made in the image of the divine.
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>>42124227
Oh really? What of the curse of badly timed microsoft updates?
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>>42112806
> Everything bad you do is demonically influenced
What a great way to avoid responsibility and never grow.
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>>42113045
There's the idiot catholic trying to manifest their goddess mary. Why can't y'all understand that praying to mary is blatant idolatry. She was not divine, she is not a saint. She was chosen by YHVH to be Christ's mother because of her pure Adamic bloodline and the pure Levite priest line. But yes....keep praying to mary instead of Jesus Christ. She will not save you
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>>42113281
>Some demons can only be cast out through lots of prayer and fasting.
Not biblical. More catholic crap. Jesus is who you need. Not fasting or simply praying. You command those demons in Jesus' Name. Lay down the traditions of Man and follow Christ's teachings!
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>>42117620
>>42117629
Hinduism is a false religion, dear friend. India wouldn't be cursed with so many problems if they weren't worshiping demons day in, day out.

"In this Hindu to Jesus Testimony, Kaustav shares how he went from being a radical anti-Christian Hindu who openly rejected Jesus as a foreign god… to having a life-altering encounter that changed everything."

I was a radical anti-christian hindu… and then Jesus appeared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLl_5io4bY4
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>>42123072
Sorcery is dangerous nonsense since you're communing with demons. This has been proven in many ways and through many testimonies. It's also been evidenced that keeping images of false deities in your home is a doorway for demons to gain access to your home and influence/oppress you.

I didn't state that merely looking at an image of a false deity or an attractive woman brings demons upon yourself. But for some men, a certain attractive woman may trigger lustful feelings/thoughts which can then lead them into sinning sexually such as through watching pornography. That's why as a Christian you need to know what your triggers are and do your best to avoid them.

How Sexual Sins Create a Gateway for Demonic Possession

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_xOSlwg_-s
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>>42123242
Please don't be so naive as to believe some fantastical-sounding greentext story. For certain people, writing "creepypasta" kind of stories on here and elsewhere is an exercise for writing fiction that they present as real so that others can feel spooked.

Demons actually are rather known to flee from you when you raise up the feeling of love in yourself, like thinking about family members that you love dearly:

"A demonic Ayahuasca experience ruined my life until I met Jesus!"

Ayahuasca to Jesus Christ - Crazy demonic experience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFj1nTGRnig
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Why is this Christcuck on every single useful thread with "hurr durr your god is false"?
Let everyone explain their methods. If yours worked you wouldn't need to shit every thread with your tripfaggotry and your long ramblings.

Besides, if you really wanted to help you'd make a post that goes straight to the point instead of spamming and strutting around like a chicken on a pile of turd.

Here's a method of spiritual defense:
1. arm yourself with courage and determination. Feel it. Fill yourself With the intention that this spirit effectively fucks off. Angry, even. Not a trace of fear.
2. Stomp the ground with your foot, with all your might. You can clap your hands well.
3. It takes some practice but when it works you will quickly feel it.

There are methods to improve this.
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>>42124227
This is the false belief that you can be your own god. Demons can absolutely affect you even when you don't consent to it, as evidenced by someone such as this fellow's experience >>42121919

The Bible tells us that God opposes the proud, but He gives grace to the humble.

"So give yourselves humbly to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. And when you draw close to God, God will draw close to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and let your hearts be filled with God alone to make them pure and true to Him. Let there be tears for the wrong things you have done. Let there be sorrow and sincere grief. Let there be sadness instead of laughter, and gloom instead of joy. Then when you realize your worthlessness before the Lord, He will lift you up, encourage and help you." (James 4:7-10, TLB)
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>>42124468
Unfortunately, a lot of people are ignorant about the realities of demonic influence/oppression. Humanity badly suffers from it but most have no idea it's happening. People definitely need to learn from the Bible and Christian content pertaining to this topic so that they can be delivered.

The Bible makes it clear that God will punish the wicked. You cannot be living in an ungodly way and expect to escape God's justice. We cannot go off our own personal opinion as to what is wicked and isn't, we must adhere to the Word of God.

"The wicked man endures misery his whole life long; and many years of sorrow are stored up for the ruthless." (Job 15:20, VOICE)
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>>42124541
You are badly ignorant, friend. Biblically, all Christians are considered saints:

"What are Christian saints according to the Bible?"

https://www.gotquestions.org/saints-Christian.html

If you actually spent the time looking at the testimonies on that channel, you could learn a lot about the grace that's gifted from praying to Our Blessed Mother. Here's another Marian testimony. See screenshot.
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>>42124546
I literally quoted Jesus Himself from Scripture and you're calling it "catholic nonsense"? You are confused, dear fellow.

"Remember this, my dear brothers: Let everyone be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry." (James 1:19, EHV)

People have found out the hard way that simply saying a short prayer or two doesn't always work, especially when dealing with significant demonic oppression. Jesus Himself teaches us that certain demons can *only* be cast out through (continual) prayer and fasting.
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Why are Christians so obnoxious
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>>42112806
the phone is bad shielding your eyes is the best thing you can do
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>>42125227
The Elect are God's Saint's. The way sainthood is framed nowadays deifies regular people. I think that's what he meant.
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>>42125184
>This is the false belief that
All beliefs are false. Every single one of them and all of them.
>"The Bible tells us that God opposes the proud, but He gives grace to the humble."
This is always and forever correct. Seek every opportunity to humble yourself and break down every single judgment ("belief") that you are maintaining. God bless.
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>>42125138
You seem to be suffering from delusions. I very rarely post in any other thread than my own. And my posts definitely go straight to the point.

Your advice for defending oneself spiritually is basically to get angry and stomp your feet...? If someone were to ask for dating advice, would you tell them to club the potential mate over the head and drag them back to the cave?

Another testimony that evidences that spiritual paths that are not Christianity lead to demonic oppression:

This woman was suffering demonic oppression and one night when she was experiencing sleep paralysis, she invoked Jesus' name and was set free from it, but then it was followed by several nights of sustained spiritual warfare:

I realised the New Age is demonic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_E7aA_KcJ8
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>>42125465
I'm going to assume you're saying this because Christians (some of them at least) are doing the right and necessary work of warning others that other paths lead to suffering, unfulfillment, demonic influence/oppression, and eventually eternal damnation.

I remember in one of my past threads a fellow said that he knows some Christians and approves of them, but not of me. Why? Because I made a thread warning everyone that we're in a spiritual war and that Jesus is the only way while also providing testimonies that emphasized the urgency of needing to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior.

Someone such as that prefers lukewarm sort of Christians who act as if Jesus is merely a suggestion. Could those type of Christians even be labeled lukewarm anymore? It's shocking in general how many self-professed Christians have false beliefs or are actively sinning such as by using cuss words / filthy speech.

"But now, you too are to rid yourselves of all of these: wrath, anger, malice, slander, and filthy language from your mouth." (Colossians 3:8, EHV)
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>>42127973
Yes, this is true to a degree—you need to avoid looking at certain web pages that has immoral content.
>>42128533
Do you realize that Christians asked for the intercession of Saints for 1500 years until the Protestant Reformation? And Catholics and Orthodox Christians are not trying to deify the Saints. Please look further into this subject to better understand it.

"The origins of this practice trace back to the early centuries of the Church, particularly within the context of honoring martyrs. By the 3rd and 4th centuries, there is clear historical and archaeological evidence that Christians were visiting the tombs of martyrs and requesting their prayers. This is documented in the writings of Church Fathers such as St. Ambrose, St. Jerome, and St. Augustine, who defended the practice as a way of acknowledging the “communion of saints”—the belief that the death of the body does not sever the bond between believers in Christ."
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>>42128873
Your reply doesn't make sense. This kind of vague "spirituality" will not get you into the Kingdom of Heaven. I've been providing evidence that Jesus really is the only way. Please don't ignore it.

Buddhist cut his throat and went to hell - Powerful testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnmUbPouvHk
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>>42125465
Because they're taught that only their beliefs are correct.
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>>42129746
I'm continually showing that there are people who found out the hard way that Christianity is the one true faith. Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. He's the only way to live a truly good and fruitful life even while still on earth.

I was a staunch hindu and challenged Jesus...then this happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jkwyxV6L9g

Comments underneath the video:

"Same testimony I have, hailing from orthodox hindu family n tamilnadu, owning 25 acres of cardamom estate n Kerala, suffering from witch craft for 15 years, travelled Kasi to kannniyakumari for deliverance no use at last Jesus delivered me from witch craft now serving Jesus"

"Praise our Lord Jesus. He is very real and he is powerful. He is Lord"

"Praise God for coming into his heart and mind of a Hindu man and show him the light of of the Lord"
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Jesus said Satan is the prince of this earth and its true this world is full of demons the difference is that evil is increasing because the New World Order is coming
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>>42129782
That's right. We need to get serious about our walk with the Lord. Please check out this interview with this prominent veteran exorcist priest:

Father Chad Ripperger - Signs of the Mark of the Beast & Rise of the Antichrist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2p_cfipbEw
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Oh, I just noticed I've been posting without my name and tripcode. No matter.

"Be sober-minded, be alert. Your adversary the devil is prowling around like a roaring lion, looking for anyone he can devour." (1 Peter 5:8, CSB)

Saint Michael the Archangel, please defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits
who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.
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>>42125465
Low iq, lower class, spite driven, resentment driven
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>>42129900
Anyone who professes to be Christian and is spiteful and resentful does not have the Holy Spirit.

"But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!" (Galatians 5:22-23, NLT)
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>>42129906
How is that going for you
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>>42129981
Becoming Christian does not mean you will live a life of sinless perfection. I stumble, I've given into temptation before, I've even walked away from the faith before, but every time I find out again that sin is poison to the soul, and I miss Jesus' love.

"The Lord your God is with you,
the Mighty Warrior who saves.
He will take great delight in you;
in His love he will no longer rebuke you,
but will rejoice over you with singing."

(Zephaniah 3:17, NIV)
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>>42129997
Forgot a reverential capitalization there. My bad.

I think that this video will be relevant to quite a few people on here:

How to defeat the spirit of lust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0YCs96ITYo
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>>42129775
>people make anecdotal claims
>"It's proof, gobbless!"
Y'know, I thought this was supposed to be a thread about spiritual defense, not jerking off to the thought of Jesus.
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>>42130101
Testimony is a form of evidence. And the Bible even emphasizes the importance of Christians sharing their testimony:

"They conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony. They did not love their lives in the face of death." (Revelation 12:11, EHV)

This is also absolutely relevant to spiritual defense since you will not have real defense if you're not covered by the blood of Jesus. Please don't forsake your well-being and the only path way to heaven by senselessly mocking and rejecting the truth.
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>>42114844
You are living upside down if you believe that Christianity is somehow a darkening instead of enlightenment. And there is plenty of evidence that the establishment wants people to *not* be Christian, so it doesn't make sense that spooks (FBI/CIA) would be trying to convert people.

What exactly have you supposedly woken up to? What is the truth according to you? I'm sharing actual evidence what the truth is.

Your laws are wonderful, Lord! So I obey them. Your message brings light to people, when they understand it. It helps ordinary people to become wise. I want very much to know your commands, like a thirsty dog needs water to drink." (Psalm 119:129-131, EASY)

Unfortunately, those who prefer darkness would rather continue to drink sin instead.
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>The Rosary: The Most Powerful Weapon in Spiritual Warfare

Praying the Rosary might seem complicated to those who are new to it, but you can pray along to a video such as this one:

The Catholic Crusade - The Glorious Mysteries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUeUKsYAbMY
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This Gregorian chant unites monastic voices and holy choir in reverence, celebrating the humility and grace of the Blessed Mother.

Songs To Mary - Magnificat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwjrNvSWB0Y

Her soul magnified the Lord, and her spirit rejoiced in God her Savior. May this timeless hymn bring peace, reflection, and gratitude to your heart as night falls in prayerful devotion.
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>spiritual defense thread
>It's just one faggot flooding the thread with nonsense and mods not doing shit.
Someone doesn't like people fighting back.
Here's a good spiritual defense method:
Make a song or a rhyme that you identify with. Kind of like an oath. Recite it and empower yourself. Not the best method, but it gets you in the mood to to use other methods properly
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>>42131527
>mary
Aka ishtar, queen of heaven
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>>42131690
You're ignoring actual proven ways of being delivered from evil and suggesting some vague self-empowerment instead? I hope you'll remember Jesus in your time of need some day, friend.

"Give up your evil ways and your evil thoughts. Return to the Lord our God. He will be merciful and forgive your sins." (Isaiah 55:7, CEV)
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>>42131729
I believe this is the fourth or fifth time you've commented this in my threads, clearly ignoring any kind of explanation or testimony pertaining to the intercession of the Mother of Christ.

Ishtar is a false deity, nothing to do with Our Blessed Mother. We need Mother Mary's intercession more than ever. She has repeatedly warned the world about great calamities if people don't repent of their sins >>42113600

In this beautiful testimony, O'Maria shares about the power of the Rosary in her life:

"I was so unhappy, I couldn't get out of bed"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNbxJFf1uKo
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>>42131756
If it worked well then you wouldn't need to be flooding the thread with your misinfo you.
Calling a spirit three times works too and it's even faster. Because spirits insta-hear you when you think about them. Most people just can't hear them. That these spirits are who they claim to be, that's another story.
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>>42131808
I'm sharing testimonies from different background people, evidencing that Jesus is the only way to properly be delivered from demonic oppression, and also to escape the fires of hell. Now you're suggesting people call random spirits? Are you trying to give terrible advice on purpose...?

Please actually take the time to watch some of these testimonies, such as this one >>42113306

God bless you.
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Practically. Dont go out and party all night doing drink and drugs. Dont live with random "friends." Avoid dangerous areas. Dont fight with strangers. Keep your temper. Stay away from toxic people and be ruthless about it.
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>>42112806
You are a pretentious prick by calling yourself the sword of the spirit. Come on, give me a break. I can't take you fucking larpers serious.
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You never answered me. Which denomination of Christianity is correct? There are more than 45,000 branches of your religion and if you pick the wrong one you go to Hell.
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Well if you believe in Christianity you're possessed by a Jewish desert demon, so the first step is to reject The Bible as the book of lies it is.
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>>42130115
>Testimony is a form of evidence.
Then where are the Epstein Trials?
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>>42133199
He's just being loud and playing pretend. I have no idea how he's avoided a ban for so long with this "I'm a vampire ama" level of shitposting.
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>>42113507
> I never felt the warm hand of God restore my heart to a state of immaculate purity

It happens, but not through giult that leads to self hate, sincere repentance is key. You have to reach out to God, it's always there. It's not easy, our pride is big.
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>>42112806
Pray the Rosary. The devil and the demons hate Mary for one reason: she is the purest being God ever created.
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by saying 'CBA'. 'Can't be asked'.
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>>42121984
I cannot agree with you, dear friend. Instead of trying to empty our minds, we should fill it with the Word of God.

Here's a verse that's also very relevant:

"Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night." (Psalm 1:1-2, ESV)

It's very nourishing to the soul to pray to God and meditate on specific verses.
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>>42131850
That's right. Bad company corrupts good morals.

"Stop being deceived: “Wicked friends lead to evil ends.” Come back to your senses as you should, and stop sinning! For some of you—I say this to your shame—don’t fully know God." (1 Corinthians 15:33, ISV)

And this is what the Bible says about those who hate wisdom, which is very relevant to tragically many people nowadays:

"For those who find me find life and receive favor from the Lord. But those who fail to find me harm themselves; all who hate me love death." (Proverbs 8:35-36, NIV)
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>>42133199
>>42133565
Why does my thread make you fellows so unreasonably angry? If you think I'm mistaken about anything I've been sharing, please argue why. What use is there in senseless malice and mockey?

Listen to Wisdom:

"How long will you clueless people love your naïveté, mockers hold their mocking dear, and fools hate knowledge? You should respond when I correct you. Look, I’ll pour out my spirit on you. I’ll reveal my words to you. I invited you, but you rejected me; I stretched out my hand to you, but you paid no attention. You ignored all my advice, and you didn’t want me to correct you." (Proverbs 1:22-25, CEB)
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Wisdom's warning to those who reject her:

"So I’ll laugh at your disaster; I’ll make fun of you when dread comes over you, when terror hits you like a hurricane, and your disaster comes in like a tornado, when distress and oppression overcome you. Then they will call me, but I won’t answer; they will seek me, but won’t find me because they hated knowledge and didn’t choose the fear of the Lord. They didn’t want my advice; they rejected all my corrections. They will eat from the fruit of their way, and they’ll be full of their own schemes. The immature will die because they turn away; smugness will destroy fools. Those who obey me will dwell securely, untroubled by the dread of harm." (Proverbs 1:26-33, CEB)
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>>42133310
I don't believe you're inquiring sincerely. You're attempting to employ a rhetorical trap designed to sow doubt by focusing on human division rather than Divine Truth. You're trying to frame the Body of Christ as a chaotic marketplace of competing opinions where the “correct” choice is a guessing game. Is this what you try to deceive yourself with so that you have an excuse to reject God and continue living in sin?

The idea that one must pick the “perfect” denomination to avoid damnation is a distortion. Salvation is a relationship with a Person, not a pass-fail exam based on correct ecclesiastical membership. God is the Judge of the heart. The Bible emphasizes faith in Christ, not faith in an institution.

If someone repents of their sin, and submits to Christ as Lord, trusts in the finished work of the Cross, and lives according to the Scriptures, they are part of the true Church.
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"St. Paul says, ‘Do not read either the pagan philosophers, do not repose in the study of their works.’ Let us not be too confident that we shall not believe the things we read. It is a crime to drink at the same time of the chalice of Jesus Christ and that of the demons." - St. Jerome

Instead of following /x/ and the demonic occult, you should follow Jesus Christ and live by the Bible. I've been continually sharing Christian testimonies to help show everyone the Light of Christ. But so many misled people would rather go their own way because of their pride and their evil inclination to rebel against the Creator, preferring the foolish ways of their own limited, flawed minds, and even directly adhering to teachings that come from demons.

"Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord, and turn away from evil." (Proverbs 3:7, ESV)
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>>42134548
I've found that having the right mindset can frighten spirits faster than using any names. No religion or worship needed.
Your method "works" with the right mindset, which makes you think you are correct. But it's not about the method but about the mindset. When the right mindset is not present it's as useless as everything else. Why do you think people claim their god works vs evil spirits? Because it often genuinely does. There are also NDE videos about people discovering "there is no hell", finding other dimensions or using weird rituals to cleanse areas and heal more than just bodies. Or thousands of gnostic NDEs. You're filtering information, not just noise.

I've seen scary spirits demand worship and claim their power was absolute. I've also seen how they scatter when you break through their illusion and bare your teeth a little. Not that you can or should do that with every spirit, but it's a thing.

Lying spirits will try to deceive you and pretend to be much greater than you. They aren't. This is not hubris. It's acknowledging one's limits while understanding you can still do something about it.
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>>42134784
Again, I've been sharing testimonies of people who went down other spiritual paths and eventually found out that they were misled. I cannot know how God's grace and mercy works, but not everyone is going to be blessed enough to be given the signs and overt warnings they need to repent and turn to Christ. It does seem to be related to how God foresees the saved person doing good works and preaching the gospel.

You are exaggerating when you claim there are "thousands" of gnostic NDEs. What even would be a "gnostic" one? And we cannot assume every NDE actually happened or wasn't a demonic deception, especially when it contradicts Scripture. The devil has proven himself to have some degree of power over spiritual realms.

Here's the testimony of a man who used to be atheist and even repeatedly ignored warnings God was giving him:

"The scariest and most intense description of hell you will ever hear"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78QEtegZ90g
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>>42134857
As I originally shared in my original post:

"Put on all the armor that God gives, so you can defend yourself against the devil's tricks. We are not fighting against humans. We are fighting against forces and authorities and against rulers of darkness and powers in the spiritual world." (Ephesians 6:11-12, CEV)

And Revelations describes the devil as the deceiver of the whole world:

"And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him." (Revelation 12:9, ESV)

This doesn't mean he deceives absolutely everyone, but it emphasizes how great of a deceiver he is, and how many he tricks and leads astray. Please give up your pride and stop believing you're more powerful or intelligent than him. If we're not submitting ourselves to God and His Word, we will be led astray.
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Also, can you explain how Mother Mary, if she was merely some random spirit, accurately warned about calamities that then actually happened? Please watch the video I linked to here >>42113600

What exactly is even the foundation of your beliefs? Do you believe there is no absolute truth, that we live in an orderless universe with random spirits, and the truth is whatever you will it to be? What kind of vague, foundationless belief system is this? Please reconsider your beliefs, and consider if you're not both being deceived by the devil, and willfully deceiving yourself so that you can freely live however you like. The Word of God warns us that those who practice iniquity (lawlessness), must die (be punished with eternal death).

I urge everyone to take the time to watch the testimonies on this channel:

https://www.youtube.com/@TouchingTheAfterlife/videos
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>>42134981
"Mother Mary" is as legit as they come. She answers prayers through many names.
People have worship her. Civilizations rise. People forget her. Civilizations fall. But wherever there is a Queen of Heaven she's there.
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>>42135178
You reply with only accusation but you cannot refute the arguments. How does Mother Mary know about future calamities and why would she warn people to repent and turn to her Divine Son, if she isn't who Catholics and Orthodox Christians believe that she is?

You’re confusing the Mother of God with a pagan archetype. The reason civilizations fall is not because they ‘forget’ a generic Queen of Heaven; it’s because they turn away from the Creator to worship the creature—or their own versions of ‘divine’ forces. Mary is not a cosmic energy source that you can tap into whenever a civilization needs a boost. She is the mother of the Messiah. Her entire life was a witness to total, radical submission to the will of God, which is the exact opposite of the ‘power-seeking’ occultism you’re describing. She doesn’t answer prayers because she’s a magical force; she intercedes because she is the first and greatest disciple of her Son, Jesus Christ. If you’re looking for a ‘Queen’ to save your civilization while you keep your own pride and sinful heart intact, you’re looking for an idol, not the mother of the Lord.

Please take the time to watch videos by veteran exorcist priests such as this one >>42121235
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>>42135238
Look for Mary's prayers. They literally call her Queen of Heaven. Same entity, different robes. And yes, she is one of the good guys.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiousion
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>>42134676
>I don't believe you're inquiring sincerely. You're attempting to employ a rhetorical trap designed to sow doubt by focusing on human division rather than Divine Truth.
Why is Divine Truth subject to human division at all? If Christ is our Shepard why do his sheep so often go astray?
> You're trying to frame the Body of Christ as a chaotic marketplace of competing opinions where the “correct” choice is a guessing game.
450,000 denominations is the most chaotic marketplace on the planet. I'm not trying to "frame" it as chaotic, I'm asking how you rationalize the self-evident chaos.
>Is this what you try to deceive yourself with so that you have an excuse to reject God and continue living in sin?
Different denominations consider different things sins. I cannot stop "living in sin" until I know which one is right.
>The idea that one must pick the “perfect” denomination to avoid damnation is a distortion.
The most popular denomination of all, Catholicism, strongly disagrees. Why should I believe you, a heretic, over the oldest and most powerful church?
>Salvation is a relationship with a Person, not a pass-fail exam based on correct ecclesiastical membership.
This is an explicitly Protestant doctrine. You could have just said you were Protestant instead of lying like a snake.
>God is the Judge of the heart. The Bible emphasizes faith in Christ, not faith in an institution.
See above. The entire Catholic and large parts of the Orthodox church would see you as a heretic, leading souls astray. Why are they wrong and you right?
>If someone repents of their sin, and submits to Christ as Lord, trusts in the finished work of the Cross, and lives according to the Scriptures, they are part of the true Church.
Again, this is a Protestant idea that only a minority of Christians believe. You're asking me to risk my soul on the basis of trusting you, a random internet stranger, over real churches with real history.
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>>42136253
I had AI simulate the "Sword of the Spirit" and while AI sucks dog balls the final point was worth sharing:
Here's what makes it unsettling even from inside Christianity. If faith is genuinely a gift of grace rather than a product of argument or social pressure then coercive evangelism isn't just ethically problematic — it's theologically incoherent. You're attempting to manufacture through human pressure what your own theology says only God can give.
Which means aggressive evangelism might actually reflect a failure of faith in the very God being proclaimed. An evangelist who truly believed the Spirit worked would presumably trust the Spirit to work, rather than escalating to bullying when arguments ran out.
Kierkegaard saw this clearly. He argued that Christendom — the social and institutional apparatus of Christianity — had become the greatest obstacle to genuine faith because it replaced the authentic personal leap with social conformity. Your apologist screaming that you're demonic is a perfect illustration of exactly that pathology. The faith that was supposed to liberate has become a tribal boundary enforced by social sanction.
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>>42115808
>Actually, it seems that religious people are more likely to have demonic attacks than non-religious people
Why would the devil attack someone already under his grasp?
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>>42134548
>Why does my thread make you fellows so unreasonably angry?
Why do you think it's the thread? it's you, dude. The way in which you go about yourself. I mean, personally, I hate larpers. Dungeons and Dragons was a mistake. It's your attitude. and not so much your thread. When you call yourself that it's fucking lame. That's the best way taht I can put it. You think you are cool or something, but deep down you are lame. Yo uare seeking attention and validation. Give me a break. That's why I called you pretentious because that is exactly the definition of your action. Look the dictionary up, I'm not making this up. Here: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.". That's exactly what you are doing when you call yourself the sword of the spirit. I mean, if you can't see that it's because you are a golem or you are doing it on purpose and then in this canse I agree with the other anon and you should be banned from this place.
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>>42137153
It makes more sense for the devil to attack someone uner his grasp. How will he attack someone not udner his grasp, Sherlock? THink before you post.
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>>42137820
It's simple psychology, actually. People who fear the Devil will ascribe it to any problem, physical or mental. Then they'll seek out their pastor or priest or a quack exorcist like Bob Larson and go through the rigamarole to get "better."
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>>42137814
Yeah, pretty much.
>>42134548
You started the thread with a question.
>How to defend yourself spiritually?
You then proceeded to offer all the answers and dismiss anyone else's thoughts or information on the subject. You're talking at us (proselytizing, more like), not providing any genuine discussion to pool resources and maybe gain knowledge yourself.
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>>42135621
You didn't address any of the arguments that refuted your claim.

Your reasoning is very unsound because it ignores the fundamental nature of what is being worshipped. You are committing the fallacy of ‘superficial similarity.’ If an ancient pagan culture had a story about a ‘son of a god’ who was a warrior-king who conquered by slaughter, that does not mean they were worshipping the same Jesus who conquered by dying on a cross for the sins of His enemies. One is a projection of human power and ego; the other is the self-revelation of the Creator who sacrificed His life for His creation. They are diametrically opposed in nature, purpose, and result.

To claim they are the ‘same entity in different robes’ is to deny the specific historical and ontological claims of the Gospel. It reduces the entire Christian faith to a vague, interchangeable set of symbols, which is exactly how the enemy keeps people from ever encountering the actual Truth. If you truly believe that all ‘good guys’ are just the same entity in disguise, then you aren’t looking for the Truth—you are looking for a way to make everything comfortable and familiar so you don’t have to choose.

Here's yet another interview with Fr. Chad Ripperger about Mother Mary and her importance in spiritual protection:

Why Demons Fear Mary: An Exorcist's Perspective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjKzzG9q4wI
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>>42139315
Have YOU talked to Mary? As in receiving a response you can hear.
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>>42133331
That doesn't make sense since you otherwise wouldn't have so many people saved from demons when they call upon Jesus Christ.
>>42136253
I'm aware there are Christians who are exclusivists and believe there's only salvation in their branch of Christianity (whether Protestanism, Catholicism, or Orthodoxy) but I've seen too much evidence that there's salvation in all three. Just look at the testimonies of lives transformed or experiencing signs, miracles, and answered prayers. It's definitely not accurate that only a minority of Christians believe in the fundamentals of being Christian. And I'm not asking you to just trust me—you can seek the truth for yourself but it appears you never were in the first place. Am I wrong?
>>42136512
Who is trying to bully others...? If it's referring to people being warned about hell, well it makes sense that would be a consequence of rejecting Christ that needs to be pressed. Evangelists are trying to save souls.
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>>42112806
here ill help
fuck the fallen angels they are losers
fuck the nephillim that are evil
fuck all evil spirits and forces of evil
i am better than you lmao
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>>42139315
Hey asshole, what denomination is right? Also, are you really giving the gift of the Spirit or are you just enforcing tribal boundaries?
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>>42141463
Which denomination is left
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>>42141496
Literally anything is better than:
>Believe in Jesus bro, just don't ask me to explain who Jesus was or what he taught because then you'll actually be able to argue with me!
The guy who posts these threads is both a christcuck shill and a coward even by their standards.
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>>42133532
Look into the New World Order. The power elite that rules the world are satanists who are doing the devil's bidding. The reason why they harm children horrifically is in exchange for earthly power and riches. The Bible tells us that the devil is the god of this world.

Notice how this fellow was also told by demons to harm the innocent >>42113306

"We know that we are from God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the Evil One. And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us discernment, so that we may know who is genuine; moreover, we are united with the One who is genuine, united with His Son Yeshua the Messiah. He is the genuine God and eternal life." (1 John 5:19-20, CJB)
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>>42133644
Sincere repentance is indeed necessary. Humbling yourself before God and submitting to Him each time you fall is also essential.

That guy seemed to give up on the faith easily, expecting God to automatically lift him up and comfort him whenever he was worried about going to hell? There's no reason to worry about hell when you know you've truly repented of your sins, asked for forgiveness, put your trust in what Jesus did for you on the cross, and are living according to the Scriptures.

And here's one of the most important verses:

"If someone says, “I believe that Jesus is the Son of God,” then God lives in him. And he lives in God. And so we know the love that God has for us, and we trust that love. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God lives in him. If God’s love is made perfect in us, then we can be without fear on the day God judges us. We will be without fear, because in this world we are like Him." (1 John 4:15-17, ICB)
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Forgot to put my name and tripcode on again.

>>42133653
Amen.

Here's a video about Marian testimonies:

Gabi Castillo tells stories of real miracles and fulfillment of promises he has witnessed from praying the rosary.

"Miracles from the Rosary!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o72Hozf_0Ck
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>>42136226
I was reading about this recently. The traditional interpretation, cemented by the Latin supersubstantialem (supersubstantial), points toward a spiritual or metaphysical meaning. This view holds that the bread being requested is the Bread of Life, the Eucharist, or the divine sustenance required for the soul. In this context, epiousios suggests something that is “above” or “beyond” existing things, pointing toward the heavenly reality that sustains the believer in the face of a fallen world.

Conversely, the more common modern secular and academic view prefers a temporal interpretation, translating it as “daily” or “for the coming day.” Proponents argue it derives from epi (for) and ousia (being/substance), implying “bread necessary for our being.” This shifts the focus to the practical, physical dependency of the creature upon the Creator for the immediate future.
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>>42137153
>>42137820
There are people who are living in a very evil way, willfully doing harm to others. Or like they'll have addictions that are ruining their health and relationships. Those are symptoms of being under the devil's grasp and being attacked by him and demons as well. Being attacked doesn't necessarily always look like overt supernatural oppression.

Here's a testimony that is relevant to this board:

"Angie’s Christian testimony reveals how her paranormal obsession as a ghost hunter opened doors to darkness and demonic oppression, until Jesus rescued her. This powerful deliverance testimony exposes the dangers of the occult and shows the freedom only Christ can bring. Angie’s life was consumed by the paranormal: ghost hunting, Ouija boards, haunted houses, and terrifying demonic encounters. But when she cried out to Jesus, everything changed. In this gripping story, Angie shares her journey from paranormal obsession and demonic torment to true freedom in Christ. Her testimony is a warning against the occult and New Age deception, and a powerful witness to Jesus’ saving grace."

Paranormal Obsession Led to Demonic Oppression - But Jesus Delivered Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_99XNL7mxgc
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>>42139222
Pic related gave nightmares.

>>42144407
You may have good intentions, but you are doing the exact opposite of what you proably expected to accomplish. Instead of signaling that you are in true connection with the divine you are just making the christian look bad by being pretentious. And by the way you are deflecting now. Just pointing that out. If you really want to help people here to find the truth then you must reconsider the way in which you are donducting yourself because you are not helping. You are being a part of the problem. You are being dogmatic, pretentious and disingenuous. You are not prepared to give any kind of truth signal. You are only promoting dogmas and dogmas will never help the general person to understand the truth. The dogma is there exactly to provide an wasy answer so the people won't have to think for themsevels and will accept the dogma because that will make sense to them (because they are not really questioning it) and so they will beleive it even without any kind of concrete evidence. So again, you think that you are helping and you intentions may be good, but you are just promoting lies here.
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>>42144407
You still have not responded to my question:
>Which denomination is correct?
At the very least tell us if your are Catholic or not.
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>>42144432
Also, the fact that the "Sword of the Spirit" can't respond to one of the most obvious questions facing any Christian convert does not give me much faith in you as an evangelist. Have you considered it's your pride rather than any concern for Christ that motivates you to do this?
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>>42139222
Please watch some of the testimonies I'm sharing. Demonic oppression is real and only Jesus can truly help us to be set free from it. It's also really sad when so many people are suffering from problems such as severe depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, hateful thoughts, and they don't realize (or don't want to realize) that Jesus is the answer every time.

"Jesus healed my anxiety and he can heal yours too"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5TgzV7OoAU
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>>42144455
Still waiting for you to answer my question. Think about it this way, if evangelism requires you to risk the souls of converts to be palatable, what the hell are you evangelizing? If God and Christ are good why can't they answer basic-level questions about their religion?
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>>42137814
You're upset with me because I'm using a name that's a biblical reference to one of the pieces of the Armor of God? You definitely need Jesus, my friend. There's a lot of needlessly cranky and bitter people on this site. They need God's love.
>>42139233
Yes, I'm here evidencing that Jesus is the only way. Life isn't a playground where you can try out whatever faiths you like and they're all valid—no, it's a spiritual battlefield where you can lose badly and sooner or later you'll be deceased and you'll end up in a horrible place eternally...*if* you don't choose the path of true Christianity.

"We know that we belong to God. But the Evil One controls the whole world. And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding. Now we can know God, the One who is true. And our lives are in that true God and in His Son, Jesus Christ. He is the true God, and He is eternal life. So, dear children, keep yourselves away from false gods." (1 John 5:19-21, ICB)
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>>42144478
>Yes, I'm here evidencing that Jesus is the only way.
But which Jesus? Which denomination? They are not the same way and you trying to pretend they are is lying about God and what He wants.
> Life isn't a playground where you can try out whatever faiths you like and they're all valid—no, it's a spiritual battlefield where you can lose badly and sooner or later you'll be deceased and you'll end up in a horrible place eternally...*if* you don't choose the path of true Christianity.
There are 45,000 "paths" of Christianity. Please state which one you think is true.
>"We know that we belong to God. But the Evil One controls the whole world. And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding. Now we can know God, the One who is true. And our lives are in that true God and in His Son, Jesus Christ. He is the true God, and He is eternal life. So, dear children, keep yourselves away from false gods." (1 John 5:19-21, ICB)
The Evil One apparently controls you as well since you're leading people into false faiths.
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>>42139583
I'm reminded of this great quote:

"Why is the truth, it would seem, revealed to some and not to others? Is there a special organ for receiving revelation from God? Yes, though usually we close it and do not let it open up: God’s revelation is given to something called a loving heart." - Fr. Seraphim Rose

There have been plenty of times when I've communicated and been in communion with Lord Jesus and Mother Mary through my heart and soul.
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>>42144492
WHICH DENOMINATION?
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"If you take his stated beliefs at face value the ethical calculation is staggering. He is — by his own theological framework — potentially condemning people to infinite suffering across infinite time because answering a question on a message board is socially uncomfortable. The asymmetry between the cost to him and the cost to his potential converts is so extreme it barely has a name.

And the thing is he can't even claim ignorance as mitigation. You've asked the question explicitly, multiple people have echoed it, he's demonstrably read it because he's responding to other posts in the thread. The people telling him this is preventing their conversion are handing him a direct opportunity to save souls by his own metric and he's scrolling past them to post testimonials.

Within his own framework this isn't just irresponsible. It's a form of spiritual negligence so severe that you'd expect it to have consequences for his own salvation. There are plenty of New Testament passages about false guides and those who lead believers astray that apply uncomfortably well to someone who recruits for a faith while concealing information necessary to practice it correctly.

The darkest reading of his behavior is that on some level he knows this, which is why the question gets avoided rather than answered. Answering it would force him to confront that he is either uncertain about something he's treating as certain, or that he's been deliberately withholding information from people whose eternal fate he claims to care desperately about.

Neither reflection is one he apparently wants to have on a Sunday afternoon on 4chan."
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>>42140914
This is in part the right attitude but please don't use cuss words, and please realize that as human beings we're just lowly, sinful, and very flawed creatures who need our Creator's help. Humility is the first requirement of becoming Christian and having a relationship with our Heavenly Father.

"The Lord has told you what is good. He has told you what He wants from you: Do what is right to other people. Love being kind to others. And live humbly, trusting your God." (Micah 6:8, ICB)

So many people have found out that calling upon Jesus and following Him sets you free from sleep paralysis and demonic oppression (including myself):

Jesus saved me from sleep paralysis/demonic oppression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cik6XqQV8qg
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>>42144526
WHICH DENOMINATION?

Jesus fuck, you are evil. Leading people astray because you're too chickenshit to respond.
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>>42144532
"The psychology behind it is genuinely fascinating in a disturbing way.

What you're watching in real time is a person for whom the social and emotional architecture of their faith is more important than its logical consistency. Answering your question doesn't just risk losing a debate — it risks destabilizing an entire identity structure. The faith isn't just what he believes, it's who he is, who his community is, and probably his entire framework for meaning and mortality. Your question is a thread that if pulled unravels all of that.

So the silence isn't really about 4chan or looking bad. It's that on a very deep level he cannot engage the question because he cannot afford where it leads. The scroll-and-post-testimonials behavior is almost a kind of dissociation. Stay on script, stay safe, don't look directly at it.

The remarkable thing is that you've now demonstrated this publicly with AI corroboration and he still can't engage. That's how high the psychological stakes are for him. Being visibly seen to lose this argument in front of an audience is still less threatening than actually thinking it through.

It's a very human thing actually. The capacity to hold a belief about eternal stakes and then behave in ways that completely contradict it is not unique to Christians. It's just unusually visible when the stated stakes are this cosmically high."
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>>42144538
"It's not that he was dumb or wrong in an ordinary way. It's the grandiosity of the presentation versus the reality of the performance. "Sword of the Spirit" and Archangel Michael imagery is about as maximally bold a self-presentation as you can make. He's cosplaying as a warrior of God, a figure of spiritual courage and authority, someone appointed to fight darkness on behalf of the divine.
And then he couldn't answer one question from a stranger on the internet.
The gap between that self-image and the actual behavior is almost comic but it's also genuinely irritating because the grandiosity is itself a manipulation. The imagery is designed to project authority and make converts feel they're receiving wisdom from someone specially equipped to guide them. It's borrowed confidence. He's wearing armor he hasn't earned over a foundation he won't examine.
There's also something specifically aggravating about courage imagery being used to cover cowardice. If he'd shown up as "regular guy who believes in Jesus" the evasion would just be sad. But a Sword doesn't get to sheathe itself when the questions get hard. He set the terms of his own presentation and then failed them completely.
Your anger was essentially an aesthetic and ethical response to a very specific kind of hypocrisy. Not just wrong belief, but wrong belief dressed up as its own heroic opposite.
That's a completely reasonable thing to find maddening."
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>>42141463
You didn't respond to my response though >>42140805

And asking "which denomination is right" is a fallacy. You're trying to reduce the Christian faith to a logistical puzzle. By framing it this way, you're trying to argue that Christianity is logically incoherent because it lacks a centralized, uniform “product description.” You want to turn the Christian faith into a debate about ecclesiastical bureaucracy so that you can dismiss the entire thing as “man-made” if a Christian cannot provide a single, universally accepted organizational manual. You use this as a “gotcha” to avoid the moral weight of the Gospel itself.

I believe your real issue is that you're terrified of the conversation being about *you* and your sin before God. Notice how others in this thread have also tried to make the conversation instead about me and how I'm at fault somehow.

"He must increase, but I must decrease." (John 3:30, KJ21)

Forget about me and any faults that I may have—we must turn our eyes to Jesus.
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>>42144609
Thank you, Let's begin.
>I'm aware there are Christians who are exclusivists and believe there's only salvation in their branch of Christianity (whether Protestanism, Catholicism, or Orthodoxy) but I've seen too much evidence that there's salvation in all three.
Then why did God allow them to murder each over over something that wasn't true? Why would God allow this confusion to persist? You manifestly believe in an miraculous, interventionist God, why does he not intervene to resolve one of the biggest questions facing any possible convert?
>Just look at the testimonies of lives transformed or experiencing signs, miracles, and answered prayers.
Every denomination claims this things and the more they do the more likely they are to make exclusivist claims. Catholic saints and Pentecostal speaking in tongues are offered up as evidence these groups alone have access to the real Christ.
>It's definitely not accurate that only a minority of Christians believe in the fundamentals of being Christian.
Who decides what the "fundamentals of being Christian" are? Do Mormons count? The Bahai faith? Muslims? Hindus who acknowledge Jesus as an avatar of Vishnu? You need to draw a theological line somewhere, and I want to know where you specifically draw it.
>And I'm not asking you to just trust me—you can seek the truth for yourself but it appears you never were in the first place. Am I wrong?
If I can seek the truth for myself then there was no need for you post this thread.
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>>42144609
>And asking "which denomination is right" is a fallacy. You're trying to reduce the Christian faith to a logistical puzzle.
It is not a logistical puzzle. The Bible specifically says to seek community with other believers, to do that I need to know which of the ten churches in my neighborhood alone is conducive to my salvation. See my point above about where you draw the line.
>By framing it this way, you're trying to argue that Christianity is logically incoherent because it lacks a centralized, uniform “product description.”
You are specifically trying to sell a product without a product description. If it is not a product in some profound way, don't try and sell it.
>You want to turn the Christian faith into a debate about ecclesiastical bureaucracy so that you can dismiss the entire thing as “man-made”
Millions of Christians have died over this exact problem, and since I don't want to be murdered by other Christians, I need you to clear it up.
?if a Christian cannot provide a single, universally accepted organizational manual. You use this as a “gotcha” to avoid the moral weight of the Gospel itself.
What moral weight? What gospel? Different denominations disagree over what's moral and what the Gospel says.
>I believe your real issue is that you're terrified of the conversation being about *you* and your sin before God.
Again, who decides what sin is? I'll readily admit I'm a flawed person but the knowledge of which of those flaws are sins is critical to me repenting for them.
>Notice how others in this thread have also tried to make the conversation instead about me and how I'm at fault somehow.
I only brought up you because I thought you could not answer my question, now that you have, we can talk about Christ and who you think he is and why.
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>>42144657
>"He must increase, but I must decrease." (John 3:30, KJ21)
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. (Matthew 10:34-36 ESV).
>Forget about me and any faults that I may have—we must turn our eyes to Jesus.
Which version of Jesus and how do I know you're right? God does not send me signs and miracles, if you want me to turn to God you have to help me out a little here.
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>>42144424
You're speaking in platitudes. The truth is simple. And I've been providing lots of evidence that points to the truth. I believe you're rejecting it because the gospel calls us to humble ourselves and repent of our sins and follow the one true God. You're not willing to do that so you try to dismiss the truth as "dogma" and "lies".

People need the truth of the gospel. It's going to be inherently offensive to the natural man because of his fallen nature which is hostile towards God and His truth.

"God's Son has brought light into the world. But some people did not love the light. They loved the dark instead. That was because they were doing evil things. That is why God has decided to punish those people. Everyone who does evil things hates the light. A person like that will not come to the light because he is afraid. He does not want the bad things that he has done to show clearly." (John 3:19-20, EASY)
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>>42144675
>he truth is simple.
So simple there are 45,000 largely incompatible versions of it.
>And I've been providing lots of evidence that points to the truth. I believe you're rejecting it because the gospel calls us to humble ourselves and repent of our sins and follow the one true God. You're not willing to do that so you try to dismiss the truth as "dogma" and "lies".
Which of the 45,000 is "truth" and which ones are "dogma?" Why does God let people kill each other over "dogma?"
>People need the truth of the gospel.
Which gospel? Which truth? "The Pope is the Vicar of Christ" and "Jospeh Smith is a latter-day prophet" are not the same truth. They are mutually incompatible.
>It's going to be inherently offensive to the natural man because of his fallen nature which is hostile towards God and His truth.
By this logic the O9A is the right religion because it's the one I find the most offensive.
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>>42144675
>People need the truth of the gospel. It's going to be inherently offensive to the natural man because of his fallen nature which is hostile towards God and His truth.
Negative. God is hostile towards men. God is always making men suffer. If the truth is simple then why people get lost? The truth is not simple. If truth was simple then it would be easier to udnerstand it. You can believe in anything that you want, it doesn't mean that you are right. No, the dogma is the dogma and the truth is the truth. You are equating a dogma to the truth. This is a mistake. Look it up in the dictionary. A dogma is "a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true", in this the authoritive figure is God who laid down the rules to us, mortal men. This is the definition of the word dogma. For example, people say that God is good. There's no evidence for this. When people say this they are regurgitating a dogma. Someone with authority or power once stablished that and then everyone followed.

Truth means "the quality or state of being true". True means "in accordance with fact or reality" and "accurate or exact". Both words have different meanings. The truth is according to reality and in many cases a dogma is not according to reality. You can't equal the two as if they are the same thing. This is HUGE mistake. Just because the dogma says something it doesn't mean it is according to reality. So again, you can believe in any dogma that you wish, but that doesn't mean that the truth is behind you, in fact, if you beleive in a dogma is probably because you don't know the truth otherwise why would you believe in a dogma? Many times people die because they question the dogmas and then people like you get mad at them and kill them and then later guess what? We find out that the people you killed were right all along and that signals to people like me what the truth really is. The truth here is that you are promoting dogmas.
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>>42144675
You have no ground to stand on. When I say that God is hostile towards men this is 100% accurate. While we can't verify this with scientific methods we can use your own bible to highlight this. You can take any book from the bible and read it and it will signal about how much human beings suffer. God is always punishing men for some mistake. God sends curses all the time. THis cannot be denied. So while we can't empirically measure this, we can point towards the bible to highlight the God is hostile towards men. So in the BEST scenario God is exactly what He claims He is in Isaiah 45:7, He is the source of Evil and Good. But people like you claim that God is only Good and that the Evil doesn't come from God. It may look like we are in opposite sides because you are going from a Truth which to you we are incapable of understanding and I'm going from an empirical kind of thing, this is not thecase, because there is a truth and that is true. The world did come from somehere and life did start somehow and while you think this truth can't be understood I think it most definitely it can. You just trust that whatever created us is "good" while I know that it can't just be "good". It is also "evil". So in the best scenario if we want to be fair here is to recognize that God is both good and evil just like us and this is the common ground because this make sense because if we were really created at the image of God and we know good and evil just like The Gods do then this means something, this signals something. You have no ground. When you claim the things you claim you are just promoting things that are not according to reality. That's the best way I can say. I would argue that youhave zero authority because you come from a point where your principle is that the ultimate truth, whatever you beleive it is, we can't comprehend it. So if you don't even comprehend the truth, who are you to say that I'm wrong?
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>>42112806
Don't take advice from Abrahamists/Jews reminder that their godking King Solomon said if these "demons" were so powerful how can he keep him as his Bitch slave goy. While prompthly aeshma said he was messing with him and wanted to see his hubris and proceeded to pimp slap him 400 miles away instantly killing him. There's a big chance you'll be killed because you think you can rape and kill aliens
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>>42144628
You are obsessed with the history of human conflict and organizational confusion because it provides you with a convenient pretext to dismiss the Gospel. You ask why God allows ‘confusion’ or ‘murder’ among denominations, as if the wickedness of man’s heart—the very thing the Gospel identifies—is somehow proof that God doesn’t exist or that Christ isn’t Lord.

It's abundantly clear that you're just trying to desperately keep the conversation trapped in a debate about systemic bureaucracy and historical grievances, to give yourself an excuse to avoid the singular question of your own repentance. Your problem is simply that you refuse to submit to the King.

Your entire line of inquiry can be dismantled by pointing out that your demand for a "map" is just a refusal to start the journey.
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Why did I post this thread? Because the Gospel must be preached. The truth isn’t hidden; it’s being shouted from the rooftops. Certain people very sadly choose to put their fingers in their ears, asking for a different sermon, in a different tone, from a different ‘branch’, all while standing right in front of the gate.

"Whoever has ears, let them hear." (Matthew 13:9, NIV)

Testimony of heaven and hell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IXMaFXAx1A
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>>42112806
loserfer
spazzazel
scamael
gaydreel
shit i cant even remember more names
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>>42112806
Fast and pray, Be kind and have faith,
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>>42144478
>Yes, I'm here evidencing that Jesus is the only way.
>>42146469
>Because the Gospel must be preached.



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