Why do we keep playing? Isn't there a better way for soul development.>inb4 vague posters start sharting up the thread
>>42141459Well if the video game metaphor is any indication, it'd be sunk cost fallacy.
>>42141459Why do we all collectively decide to play by shit rules when we could just...Change them?Agree collectively that we know better and should write better rules?
>>42141459>>42141474>>42141476Things are the way they are, because that is how they must be.
>>42141646>our consciousness makes up the universe, it's infinite and vast, and has no limitations in the ways it manifests and nothing is truly impossible>well uhh acktually no the system, this life, and its rules are just the way it is and always will be and no we can't collectively change this despite being the same energy that creates itUh-huh..
>>42141459I didn't ask to play this game, I'm being forced to play it. I would kill myself but some part of me KNOWS that it wouldn't be that easy to escape. Suicide probably guarantees reincarnation or some bullshit like that. I just have to wait it out. Be patient...
>>42141810if suicide is the wrong way and natural death the good one, that means 99.9% of humans are doing it right,do you believe that to be possible?
>>42141476>collectively>decideis the "collective" in the room with you now shizo?
>>42141459Your thread is a vaguepost in of itself you hypocrite. Elaborate further with more details of what you mean exactly or else you'll get the same vagueposting responses to your vagueposting question.
>>42141810Quantum immortality Already tried it
>>42142061If suicide is the wrong way, then that doesn't automatically mean dying a natural death is a good thing. It could be neutral for all you know, and the trick of this question is to die in a specific kind of way that surpasses and transcends both suicidal and natural death alike. Just dying a natural death without reaching some form of enlightenment for example is not enough to break free from this cycle on its own, but killing yourself would be even worse than that and will probably set you back even further behind. Food for thought.
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>>42141459There is no escape. This is all there is. You'll be here until you die, then you'll be born again in the next cycle, and live the same life. Repeat. Forever.
>>42142281You don't even know what Samsara is? You need to lurk and read more then.
>>42141459most people half ass it and then complain about it, the answer is simple: either give it your all or give up.>b-but I didn't ask to be bornkill yourself then, nobody is keeping you here, every minute you stay alive is a choice, you can leave whenever You want.
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>>42141459As I get older, I'm beginning to realize I might actually choose to come back because I feel very deep regret over not taking the chance with a girl back in my 20s.Yeah. It's idiotic. But I know in my heart that if some motherfucking archon dangles that in front of me in the Bardo, I'm fucked.
>>42142439Why is fucking Tolle up there?
>>42144623>you can leave whenever You wantYou'd be surprised how difficult it is to actually kill yourself vs end up with a feeding tube.The universe will bend in impossible ways to prevent you from dying. I know because I've seen it multiple times.We're made to be afraid of death, but death is one of the most difficult outcomes for almost everybody.
>>42141459You don't stop playing until you win dumbo. Then you take the massive experience boost from this game and apply it to more exciting universes with actually interesting things like real life anime women and epic anime fights.
>>42141810>>42142061>>42142292>>42142312>>42143249I'm so fucking tired of it all man, I dont want to wait till I'm 80 and finally die of cancer. How do I escape this spiritual prison?
>>42141810You are not just forced to play, you are forced to exist, the immortality of the soul is ultimate chains that bounds you to existence, it is what preventing you from simply escaping via death.And i highly doubt that astral or whatever out there is much nicer, its probably like warp
>>42145000Same but for me its old internet, never managed to properly enjoy itPlus unsatisfied coomer fetishes on top that.
>>42145091Enlightment and absolute self control, at least i naively think.
>>42141810You are not just forced to play, you are forced to exist, the immortality of the soul is the ultimate chains that bounds you to existence, it is what preventing you from simply escaping via death.And i highly doubt that astral or whatever out there is much nicer, its probably like warp
>>42141459A long time ago I was told in a dream (lol) that my life would be that of a nice but troubled guy that would vanish amid the turmoil of a coming era of chaos and universal decay. I THOUGHT THIS WAS FINE, so I agreed to it.And now the time has finally come.
>Why do we keep playing?Because there is no alternative, what do you want? To stop existing? Non-existence is literally impossible, you can exist as a void of nothing but the awareness will still be there.
>>42141459That's why:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca2_xS665G4&list=RDca2_xS665G4&start_radio=1
Playing video games causes no physical pain. There’s a bit of a difference between being run over by a tank in real life and in GTA.
>>42141459Because of dopamine, you know what it is? I think you know but I will explain anyway, it's a hormone that our brains produce, it's good feeling hormone, it's called "feel good" hormone, that's the reason for all addictions, but games are not much addiction they don't give as much dopamine as some other things for example orgasm or drugs, but games and scrolling and listening music gives small amount of dopamine, also when you don't like the game you want to end it, dopamine is actually "wanting hormone" your brain will get a lot of dopamine when you finally finish the game, even if you don't like the game you keep playing it because your brain want to feel good after you finish it, our brains are a little bit independent from us, we have control but not 100% control
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>>42141459Soul Development is not needed. That's just a right hand path sociopathic psy op.
>>42151264This graphic is heavily skewed in favor of right hand path 'dissolve into source' stuff.Dissolution into source is a doctrine only applicable to Dream Characters.Conscious Viewpoints cannot dissolve.
>>42141476Complacency. The mass consciousness is used to the way things are, to get them to change to any other system would be a Herculean effort. 'The People'™ would much rather continue with what they know, regardless of difficulty, than attempt something unknown, regardless of ease.
>>42141476Because the "power gamers" (a.k.a. the rich) make the rules to benefit themselves.Changing the same requires the removal of these toxic power gamers.
>>42141476>>42152428No conscious viewpoint is connected to any other conscious viewpoint.That sort of collective consciousness of conscious viewpoints is one of the biggest psyops ever made.
Git gud noobEnd game is not for retards. And if you change rules it wont be worth a damn.
Every possibility for growth must be experienced. Each opportunity for growth that succeeds increases the number of required simulations exponentially.We all agreed to this before we came here. It's the nature of existence, the only reason. We picked every interaction before being born. We picked our lives. It was our decision.
>>42152891Interesting thought, would the Bystander Effect not be proof that a certain level of collective consciousness exists? Or, perhaps that just exposes the existence of NPCs I guess
>>42141459Why are you taking the word of the tards who say we chose to be here?
I had a dream last night that my house burnt down and all my possesions were lost and I just balled my eyes out. I think that is why we keep coming back. We are in a society were materialism just keeps us coming back. Look at the ancient egyptions, they literally were buried along side their treasures. We are a race of materialism and we will come back as long as we have a rock to live on and things to play with or look pretty.
>>42153757That could, as you said, be argued to expose the existence of NPCs. The evidence for my claim is that Separate Eternal Conscious Viewpoints is the one thing that answers the Vertiginous Question.
>>42141810Enlightenment is the only way out, and it involves complete surrender/acceptance which leads to detachment which leads to right action, all of which gather momentum, build on themselves, and culminate in the "heaven on earth" experience of enlightenment. THEN you don't have to return, and will dwell in the unmanifest AS the unmanifest, until such time as the cycle begins again. Some people experience this at the moment of death, too, when the scales fall from their eyes and their soul has been purified enough through selflessness and detachment.
>>42155130>The evidence for my claim is that Separate Eternal Conscious Viewpoints is the one thing that answers the Vertiginous Question.I'll have to look into this anon, these are new concepts to me. Any chance you've some literature that might expand upon these ideas so I can get a better grasp of them?
>>42152421>This graphic is heavily skewed in favor of right hand path 'dissolve into source' stuff.That'll be because the LHP is fraught with danger and very easy to fuck up and go insane without expert guidance. It can be done independently, but you need to be carrying knowledge of certain boundaries deep within you from prior lifetimes of practice in that direction. If an immature soul tries it alone, 100% suicide, madhouse, prison, or homeless crazy person outcome. MANY such cases.
>>42156719why do spiritualists always speak in buzzword-riddled woowoo? if you know a way out of re-incarnation you should just say it in plain english, like you would write a food recipe or something
>>42152465How do we banhammer these toic players without them finding ways to break back into the game? The last major attempts to banhammer the toxic players resulted in toxic players seizing control over the moderation EVERY SINGLE TIME
>>42157166Not that anon but One must have eyes to see and ears to hear. Alternatively, don't cast pearls before swine. If it was something easy that could be explained in pure English, then it would be, but it's not because it can't be by its design. You want to escape the simulation? You have to earn it. If you want hand holding, pick up a Bible and take the mainstream religion pill.
>>42157166It's not buzzwords. It's terms. But want plain English? Here's a translation:Want out? Get enlightened. First accept you're stuck here and imperfect. Then let go of the crap that keeps you here. Stuff like being focused on fucking, money, and status. Then you've got to act on it. Stop being a retard. Start doing what's right. Once you've stopped being a fuckwit, it gets better. Heaven on Earth, even. Then, when you die, you don't have to come back to this hellscape. You won't come back at all, actually, until everything resets and time starts over (which is a thing. Time runs in a big loop overall). You might not even realize you're out until you're on your death bed. But you'll still be out. That's how you get free from this bullshit world.
>>42157242>Time runs in a big loop overallDo you think it's possible that one can change their position in the loop? That way it's another person/ character/ whatever on the next go around or do you believe that it's the same run every time, we just learned to play it differently each time?
>>42157242And what if i am not interested in afterlife at all?
>>42142439This list is made by a big fucking retard who cannot notice that there is literally no category and he's breaking the meaning of what he is preaching
Entropy is the ultimate evil. Satanic activity involves wasting energy and degrading what exists. Holy activity involves building up the world around you, often in creative ways. You play the game because you are a life warrior to fight off the devil.
>>42156777I don't have specific literature for this exact topic to link right now, I just did self-inquiry.Adjacent literature would be anything which talks about the existence of a Necessary Being since the question is similar in form to "Why is there something instead of nothing?"
>>42141459The game sucks until you level up and get to distribute new points, buuut gaaad daaang it took so looong to level up one point, most people stay level zero their whole lives they play the game WRONG, you're not supposed to play the stupid grinding side quests of jobs and listening to the dumb fake NPCs and their programming they get from the media, you're supposed to take your character off grid and gain mad xp, truly ascend in the game and you actually start to level up
>>42157242Why does this time loop exists? That doesnt sound good at all, more like the suffering is neverending
I love you game.
So whats even the basis of this shit?Spiritual stuff like reincarnation sounds neat but like... there's no tangible evidence and i dont get where all this weird lore came from or why people believe in it.
>>42141459>for soul developmentat the end when all is visited and the hud asks>would you like to play again?you know you'll forgetyou know it was never for developmentbut you still say yesbecause it's all you've ever knownand who was ai was never shown
>>42141459It's not about soul development. It's about maintaining the infinitely cascading fractal we call reality. Because nothing can not exist, we must keep moving forward into something new. That includes suffering and torture along with euphoria and peace. Every possibility must be explored because we can not physically or non physically decay into nothing.
>>42141459>isn't there a better wayno, there's just ways that make you feel better
>>42163562Thats depressing as fuck. I want to be nothing and I know I cant. What do? One of my spiritual friends used to say "Shut up and keep in step." is that really all we can do?
>>42160882>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca2_xS665G4&list=RDca2_xS665G4&start_radio=1Yes unfortunately there is no proof. The only thing we know is that we don't know. Some think they know the truth just because they have a theory that's not mainstream. But it's still only a belief, like all others.
>>42151250Unfathomably based.
>>4214206199.9% is a high amount. Suicide is a lot more common than you think. Probably closer to 70-80%. Life is fuckin difficult bro.
>>42163817It's proven. The spiritually awakened people have confirmed it. And just like in science, you don't have to believe blindly, you can confirm it for yourself (by reaching enlightenment). The more interesting question is what part of your being is actually reincarnating, that's still a bit....unclear.
>>42142061>Ignoring humans that die in accidents, wars, doing stupid stunts, OD'ing, killed, by medical malpractice, disease, starvation, abortion, etc...You didn't think this one through very well, did you? Also, why would it be wrong if a majority achieves it? Would you believe it if I tell you the majority of humans are good, as society needs trust to work, and trust is mutually exclusive from evil? Evil is such a rarity in the world, that it sells news. Why do you think media conglomerates pander fear and pessimism thru the depiction of evil happenings? Because good happenings already outnumber evil ones 99:1, and that boring shit just doesn't sell.Chin up, you're gonna die one day, anyways. Don't rush the innevitable, and keep scratching that daily lotto ticket.
>>42163817Assuming you yourself believe in it, but also admit that theres no proof and that we dont know... why do you entertain it?I dont mean to sound rude but I am curious. Like religion, spirituality seems to just operate on faith and made up concepts and lore with no basis in truth or evidence. Truthfully I feel like there IS something more to everything but ill admit that's just me coping about death and non existence.At this point im just hoping that we do get a breakthrough for longevity and a bunch of other stuff in my lifetime, even though deep down ill probably just age and die like everybody else (if I dont get killed or sick).
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