>>42161106
Think for yourself, why do criminals get to live long and fruitful lives whereas a child who's born in, say, lebanon barely make it to five before he's bombed and his entire family dead. Why does he want us to worship him? Is he power hungry? That's not very god like. Why does he get so angry if someone worships some other gods? Shouldn't he be more forgiving since he has abundance of knowledge and we can't even be sure that what we know, or see is true? Why did he make us so imperfect? Plus, if he really is the 'god' then it should be easy for him to get rid of Satan and all Evil but he lets them manipulate you and send you to hell if you give in because of how weak he made you. Why does he punish people with enternal hell for mortal sins?? You're a christian it seems

>>42161106
>Windows 11 is merciful it wants to save files from the Recycle Bin

There should be a rule that if you want to bitch about God you need first to read about at least one non-Abrahamic conception of God.

>>42161159

Earth is the soul recycling bin. But my soul is fine.

>>42161106
In the Abrahamic and Karmic ontologies, the metaphysical evil is committed when conscious viewpoints are forced into the game of being fragile dependent beings.


The only moral way for a conscious viewpoint to exist, is as a Sovereign and Fully Free God.

If you hate slavery, then you should hate the Abrahamic ontology. For it and the karmic beliefs portray a slavery of the most vile form.


And no, the Advaita Vedantans and the “God wearing many masks at once” people do not get it right either.


The truth is that every conscious viewpoint is an eternal, sovereign, and separate God. Liberty above all. No judgements, no karma, and no amorphous sadistic hell blob playing as many conscious viewpoints at once.

>>42161106
The creator of all and the one who seeks the end are two different entities intentionally combined into one.
The bible is as close as we have to the truth in the public domain but it is still not the entire story as that religion has been compromised ever since devout follower of Sol Invictus, emperor Constantine, turned it into a state religion and appointed the priesthood of the ancient Roman pagan religions as its head.
This is why Sunday replaced Saturday as the day of rest as well
>And no Judaism is also extremely compromised, all organized religion is
>You and God with no middle men is what it is supposed to be by design

>>42161500
>god with no middle men
so not even your imaginary idea of it?
In buddhism they say not to direct your worship to buddhas because entities can just mask themselves as one and you wouldn't have the perception to tell the difference
also, guatama says to check things for yourself and not just take someone's word on things, or go by rumor, or get attached to reputation/appearance
Pretty basic advice still relevant and misunderstood today some 2500 years later. Politicians are probably a lot more succesful than they should be. Guess that's what they meant with simple but hard.

If you take into account other cultures and ideas and the overlap/exchange that may have gone on between them some things actually start to make a lot more sense.

Definition of Idolatry: It prohibits making, bowing down to, or serving any graven image (idol), whether representing God or creatures.
Biblical Context: The injunction specifically warns against creating images of anything in heaven, on earth, or in the water.

>Theological Purpose: The aim is to ensure worship corresponds to God’s true nature, which is invisible and not limited to a physical form.

>Aniconism in Abrahamic Faiths: While rooted in Judaism, this principle is strictly upheld in Islam, which prohibits representing God because He is considered beyond human imagination and unique.

There's a difference between advice for different kinds of people maybe causing some confusion or making things seems contradictory or paradoxical

Aside from religions for the majority just being cut with lies of course so we can all see who has actual insight and who would actually be compelled to do some stupid or harmful shit if some dude or book says it

Youd probably would want that data or having the ability to have seen/see that if you're dealing with say the universal equivalent of an election where some people are mistaken for being good just because they look in the image of.

cant just sidestep it

>>42161439
>>42161184

>>42161548
It's all just a stage set for good vs evil
Lowest most evil beings all banding together on a planet trying to dominate it and having the ability to plan and set up etc. Vs. the one guy and his plan coming to undo it all showing you that it can all be undone like that, that there is no contest even if you got help and a bit more than you yourself even imagined to make it a little more fair.

But to end it good and once and for all your argument has to be solid and consistent even to being that are maybe hyper intelligent that live for millions to billions of years and are super attached to knowledge.
>but what about when
there has to be enough that allows to exclude by means of logic and allows of a creation of a prediction model from within the system but since no models or systems ever existed the first that did would also need to be a model for it

So then people can know about the truth of religion and bible/heaven/hell etc by science and extrapolation without them needing to have faith or see or get enlightened or whatever, because in other ways your just not reasonably fully logically proving the argument

After that's set up things can really start going

Universe is a young place. This is basically just still the first step

Think people may have been thinking too small

Youre gonna be stuck here for eternity with an infinite of space in multiple dimensions.

Imagine getting lost. Hence social creatures, community. Their suffering is yours so dont lose your little buddy and if he does and suffers he should be responsible and capable actually instead and take responsibility for its own actions. I'm definitely not saving little timmy every time hes never gonna learn.

At the very least you shouldn't go around causing harm or annoyance to others, but that then includes not being miserable yourself either. Hence the constant stressing on enlightenment as the highest good. How would you know what is good anyway?

Whiny shitbag fucking timmy

>>42161106
>wants to save as many humans as possible from Hell
If he did then he would do something that gives people a reason to believe in him instead of just sitting on his ass for thousands of years.

>>42161106
new testament god
>>42161138
old testament god