>>42166502
ditto. most of it is elaborate doublethink. example-

1. the asteroid belt contains individual rocks worth more, and containing more, rare earth exotic materials, including gold, than we have extracted in the entirety of human effort on earth, including what is in circulation as of now

vs.

2. the annunaki had no choice but to force humans to mine and extract the gold from earth via elaborate systems of slavery and mind control during the course of millenia, just a small fraction of the annunaki lifespan.

seems a bit impractical. if the annunaki can travel among the stars, then why not just go and reload whatever they need from the asteroid belt where you don't have to pay the energy cost of lifting off planet, even and especially if they have some sort of tech to do so. the drives of their spaceships consume energy from somewhere, as do ours, as does the universe demand. whether it comes from here in this realm or some as of yet unknown energy reserve available at all places in space, it just seems incredibly impractical to do what would take us easily less than a century to go and retrieve one of these rocks from the belt and bring it back to orbit to pick off it.

and the (((annunaki))) absolutely had to do all that? sounds like a cover story for something else to me.

>>42166630
Maybe we are indeed a prison planet
Like Australia was a prison island,
Earth is a prison planet
Whites ran into a originals - oh shit,
but we're essentially a chain gang
busting rocks to keep us in shape and worn down
Our minds nerfed like The Fortress (1992)
On this prison reserve because it's the most humane thing and also justifiable thing to do - put prisoners on a planet and let them regulate themselves
if this penal colony turns their planet into a hellscape for one another - which is actually the expectation - that's on them, we put them on a planet with everything they need to thrive - if they repent and work together.
And maybe there is even corruption like Jews giving their butts up to gay guards and getting favors like "divine manipulation" but I'm really reaching at this point.
Fun little daydream.

>>42166739
>prison planet
ok sure, but that must explicitly refer to both a crime which we committed and a judgement already made against us to be here. in our world, our sense of justice is clarity, even by the most (((generous))) interpretation we also have the right to face our accuser, even in secret courts, and only be held liable for crimes publicly stated to all, and the knowledge of the crimes we committed being known to us during the duration of our punishment.

what then, for the moment ignoring the memory being wiped from our minds of it, could we have possibly done as individuals to warrant this level of punishment?

a little girl was stomped nearly to death down the street from my house. the middle school feral welfare children who did it face no consequences, with the entire community on all sides claiming the white girl deserved it. video evidence shows her to be completely innocent of all violence.

what then could she have done as a little girl to warrant being stomped nearly to death? is it a feral god you refer to?

what could we have possibly done, what evil act could we have done, to offend the ultimate creator so much? I want answers, even hypothetical ones. absent that, you are spitting out talmudic lies to make us believe we are evil from birth, god hates us, and we deserve all the misery, toil, pain, and suffering here.

its one or the other.

BTW any being that can move between galaxies at will is a demigod,fuck out of here with "aliens"

>>42166502
>go on crazy person board
>hey guys isn't this stuff crazy?
No!

If we're an alien tourist destination it's probably training for visiting important places.

>>42166772
That's just it, Anon, you're right over the target just look up, or down.
Australia was originally a penal colony for the worst of the worst, their crimes long forgotten.
They are all dead.
Their offspring live on now.
And so it is with Prison Planet.
The crimes of our forefathers so bad, their entire bloodline is cast into exile - onto prison planet.
The fact their children are punished is part of the "justice" meted out by those who judged us and decided this is our punishment which fit our crime.
Perhaps we are simply political prisoners and none of this is "just", and we're actually victims.
You know how governments scheme.
And that little girl who was nearly fatally stomped by feral welfare children who received no consequences?
That's just part of the punishment.
The feral pavement apes were already here.
The rest of us had to deal with them, along with surviving the environment, and each other.
We use to cull non-whites.
We use to ha e cooperation and standards and it made life better.
Of course whites fight whites as well...
But it was one less aggro on the server to have non-shites be non-issues and immediately permabanned if there was.
We reap what we sow.
I'm not talking about karma and magical score keepers either
I'm talking about the only thing for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing
and if there are good men left, I'm not sure where or who they are, because I don't see them doing anything to help that little girl who was stomped, or to put the feral population out of our misery.
cont.

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>>42167116
cunt.
I'm not saying it's easy either, or without consequence.
We'll continue to get more of the same if we continue to do nothing about it
And we do this to ourselves
even if we do "nothing", we do it to ourselves. Doing nothing is a choice.
It's all part of the punishment of prison planet.
Put all the criminals on the island and watch them eat one a other for generations.
Makes for great loose and galactic entertangent in sure.
No shoetage of unique suffering on prison planet.
And if we ever begin to cooperate?
Boom.
Tower of Babel.
Galactic Big Brother puts a stop to it.
The game is rigged against us, even when we do repent, or at least organize for a collective good.

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>>42166772
You talk about secret courts and rights.
You heard of Guantanamo Bay, brother?
Gestapo?
KGB?
Secret Police?
Clandestine Operations?
Assassinations?
Political prisoners?
Concentration camps?
Internment camps?
Organ harvesting camps?
Gulags?
Prison camps?
You assume you get to face your accuser and all sorts of special privilege.
This is prison planet bitch.
This is the Thunderdome.
This is the Arena.
It's a PvP server you never asked to be a part of.
You weren't born a criminal, but this world will make you one.
And then its your fault.
And if you refuse to become a criminal?
You will suffer.
And you will die.
And you will be forgotten.
And your example will serve to show others criminality is the only way.
On Prison Planet.

>>42167116
same anon here.

>The crimes of our forefathers so bad
there is a not-so-often talked about scientology office here in the gateway city. they are often times found in the stores around town alongside the amway cult. been thinking about dating some of their bait women. seeing that these crimes our ancestors did are supposedly so bad, it sure sounds a lot like their Xenu situation.

>feral pavement apes
wakandans. my yard cameras catch them littering my yard with schoolbooks. also had one of them lounging in my front yard, ran him off, then his dad came back (shocker I know) with a gun in his shorts yelling at me that his kid's phone is pinging from my backyard. after looking at the cameras, turns out the kid was skulking my yard for shit to steal, only finding yard tools and exotic fruit plants, decided nothing of value was back there.

it would just seem to me that, if we are at least consistent if nothing else, whatever that crime was, we should be made aware of it. besides, the whole memetic framework is nothing more than poisoned brain food for the receiver to be made mentally pliable and fertilized for the sowing of other ideas later, like usury, slave labor, exploitation of paid labor, accusatory politics, etc...

even in the least strict interpretation of the situation, we are in some part eternal, though not immortal. what then shall we do when we find out the crimes we are accused of were only that, accusations, and without evidence of our guilt, even that of our ancestors, the premise for being punished here at all is forfeit.

intuition tells me it was a lie, since all accusations are confessions, given enough time. what punishment should balance what has been done to us under accusation without evidence and judgement without trial of someone else's accused crimes?

why not rise up and kill them all? how much worse can a prison planet be than whatever offense was so bad to land us here for so many generations?

>>42166502
iIsn’t the lore basically that the authoritarian, slavertype nazi ayys (our wwners) struck a deal with the shadow government....trading advanced tech for human trafficking and we’re actually the ones shooting down the other alien faction? The more peaceful, hippie-like aliens who believe in love and unity, and of course they don’t fire back because they understand what’s really going on.

>>42167143
>secret courts and rights.
I can because I was on secret courts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Pit

I've written about this before on /x/, my little glowie stories. I used to stay awake for days and days on end, my first and last waking thought of the day was how to locate, capture, interrogate, and most likely imprison for life various "terrorists" in and around the afghanistan region. I was just a cog in the machine and spent my time around all the other greasy cogs. we did exactly what I talk about. we would make lists of all these people, judge their actions against the priority lists we were given, and then decide their fate in our own little version of a trial.

then, after having done my little part of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJHvSp9AKYg

some guy would be kept awake for days on end with music, lights, and a cold room. after a while, he would be hung from the ceiling by his hands, then sprayed with ice water and coffee temperature water while being lashed with a surgical rubber hose.

this feels like lightning strikes.

even before, during, and after all that, we let them know in so many ways what they had done and why we were doing what we were. even after many of them were released back into the wild, they didn't have any questions about why it all happened and what we got out of them.

1/?

>>42167163

>the demigods are doing deals with goverments after cruising the kuiper belt because fuck logic

>>42167166
so the problem is this- all those people we kept in those "horrendous" conditions all have extensive medical files and full time nutritionists on staff usually making around $250k on contract. why? because despite all the accusations of miliary adventurism, jingoism, and secret trials, we sure do go to great lengths to keep them better than our own slave class.

besides, who here is the real slave?

the painful lesson learned (((every single time))) is that slaves evenually rebel when they learn the truth, as do prisoners. just as the plantation needs the slaves to survive, the ones who judged and sentenced our ancestors here, by your lore, need us to survive to keep their shitty little cosmic karma court system alive.

without our little souls filling up their soul courts to be judged against their soul laws, all written in secret without our knowledge, to be judged by secret soul juries and sentenced to secret soul prison planets, all based on the actions of some ancestors so far mathematically removed that we are provably closer to many wild animals?

come on. sounds like a lie.

>>42167173
well if you read enough ayy beaming stories you'll see that some ayys dont even need physical ships and shit, they just "tune into" this physical reality from an other dimension in the same way you're switching tv channels
and fuck that they aint demigods were all the same little piece of consciousness fractals

>>42167198
by my lore?
I didn't say anything about karmic systems.
I said they dumped us here as punishment.
And in a round about way keep us here as punishment.
generational punishment.
I don't care about your secret courts
the point ai was trying to make is your kangaroo court procedure is not everyone or anyone else's
you're fuckin' dumb man
which is why you're a great glowie
reading comprehension is 0
you just want to tell your story
Fuck off with your faggotry

>>42166502
Aliens aren't godlike beings, and having psychic abilities doesn't turn them into supermen. They can make mistakes, and have fragile bodies, and their craft are still just machines, which can fail or be targeted, damaged, and destroyed.

>>42167238

>be me, atemporal cosmic fox
>immune to the effects of time
>can mope around the entire cosmos
>decide to look for some snacks
>peep a corner of reality
>some fuckin meatbag is screaming at me about being an "ayylmao in a ufo"
>there is an infestation of these everywhere
>decide to scurry off to tell the others to stay away from here

>>42167246

if you can survive the kuiper belt you can survive anything this galaxy throws at you

>>42166502
That's awesome anon. Now go listen to Steve Mera and Nathaniel Gillis.

>>42167245
>my lore
is different than mine. there are no prison planets, there are no soul courts. there are no past crimes. the whole prison planet accusion is forfeit, no matter who makes it, human or otherwise. we never did anything to deserve any of this, and most of the bullshit of this world is precisely as you said about when good men fail to act and if we ever actually band together, instant tower of babel situation.

I just reject the entire premise that we are being kept here on a prison planet because of a past crime or transgression from our ancestors. in addition, any group human or otherwise who push that are doing so for control and doing so via the power of accusation. I don't disagree for a second with the concept of loosh and emotional parasites, but I also refuse to believe a word of what "they" say. to believe the accuser, police, judge, and all others against your own experience is to willfully forfeit yourself into them.

one of the best ways to facilitate that self-imprisonment is through accusations of guilt, the public shaming of those accusations, and the ability to get someone to self-indict. in the same sense that

>if the situation were hopeless, the propaganda would be unnecessary

why hide the crime? I say to hold the lie.

>my little story
was to illustrate that us, as humans and especially non-brown humans, operate on a far more just and fair level than our captors, whether or not they exist. our operations are surgical, explicit to those affected, and only last at most 1 or 2 generations, depending on their involvement. even if prison planet were true, we prisoners are objectively better in every way than our captors. even the most arrogant jingoistic brainwashed zogbots to the worst of the wakandans stoming little girls heads in down the street from middle school.

pro human.

>>42167265
They don't have to go through the belt, They can come in from the top or bottom of the solar system instead of the edge.

>>42167269
>Nathaniel Gillis

that nigga thinks these are demons
he ever talked about what exactly happened to him?

>>42167285
>operate on a far more just and fair level than our captors
and because of that higher level of justness in our behaviors and wielding of violent force, as much as we spend time criticizing it, is still objectively better than our captors, in the prison planet lore.

then why, despite that objectively superior position of our people in the aggregate, do we tolerate the accusations and punishment of morally inferior court?

same as why the criminal hides the evidence and act to prevent being caught for a crime which *did* happen, when that process is inverted, the court must hide the evidence and act for a crime which *did not* happen. contrary to the pilpul philosophical bullshit about the inability to proof the absence of something, we can in fact and in principle prove that we are innocent not only of whatever accusations towards the crimes, but the crimes themselves, to make this little pretend prison planet memeplex mental prison.

prison planet only exists as much as your cumulative beliefs allow it to, giving life to the egregore made of lies and accusations. keep feeding that fuckin egregore and see what happens.

also JD vance just called the aliens demons kek whats next?
they are ghosts?

>>42167360
He says that because their existence is very inconvenient for a zionist narrative about world history.

>>42167315
Who gives a shit what descriptive term is used? What's important is the information and perspective. They might as well be Biblical demons. They sure do fit the mold, "nigga."

>>42167315
Also, you are retarded. Listen to this and pay close attention to what he says about these "things." He doesn't describe them as "demons." You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Go read a book, nigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ganjOyHem-M

you are the perfect hollywood client if you believe in grey or green aliens

>>42166502
They didn’t crash here retard
They seeded life here because it’s a genetic experiment
We’re often a food and genetic material source depending on the ET
Why do humans farm advanced animals and plants? Why do we carry out breeding programs for flowers, marijuana, shrooms, fruit, even house plants?
It’s what intelligent life does
Even ants use aphids like ranchers move cattle
I’m constantly shocked at how dumb some of you are
You’re the sheep and they’re you’re shepherd it’s literally in every myth from every part of the world since before recorded history

>>42170086

rambling from a gray alien believer
the kuiper belt destroys your UFO

>>42166502
>demigod
Maybe the use of this word is what taints your whole entire line of reasoning. If you stumble at the start of a logical chain, you'll be tripping during the whole race.

>>42166502
Personally, I don't think we are dealing with a single type/species/race of NHI, nor do they have a single point/vector of origin. The phenomenon seems to be way too weird to be reduced like that. It's still only a slightly educated guess, so I may be spewing bollocks, too.

>>42170142

a being that can travel across galaxies is a demigod
period

>>42166502
E.T was disinfo invented during WWII by german in order to confuse people who were seeing the first anti-grav machines (See the anti-grave prototype, the Bell).
After WWII, and operation paperclip, the american took over those german scientist, working on anti-grav, to create machines like the tr-3b. They also keep the disinfo: saying that the anti-grav machines, are controlled by extraterrestrial machines, when it was humans all along.

>>42166772
whos to say we arent wrongfully imprisoned? perhaps we are imprisoned for entertainment

>>42169415
yeah SURELY not. he literally refers to himself a demonologist lmao

stop shitting your panties and raise your vibration

>>42173282
There are 40.000 years old cave paintings depicting ayys, are those part of the nazi disinfo plan too?

To be fair to the whole "they're demons" thing, imagine a being separate from human morality.
Just look at what any animal in the wild does with the whole "eating babies and rape" thing, or mutilation and killing just for the fun of it, for example.

Anything separate from traditional human morality would be seen as terrifying to basically any modern human, it would be like meeting a proto-human that just crawled out of the trees and is hungry for red meat. People just like to lump "morality" together with "intelligence" when they don't necessarily have to come in the same package.

>>42173343

theres literally zero actual proof of people watching flying saucers before WW2
zero,nada!

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>>42174462
there are countless examples....you can just look them up. its all hiding in plain sight. you’re basically dismissing the depictions and oral stories that that are consistent across isolated cultures, along with what so many remote viewers are describing about genetically engineered praeanthropus and hominem
i get that you’re really committed to that Jason Jorjani/Joseph Farrell style take on the ayy lore, but the issue is, it doesn’t really hold up if you try to reduce everything to a simple nazi psyop. but they were/are part of the lore for sure

>>42175037

that drawing is not proof,is actually pathetic thats all you have

>>42170086
>Why do humans farm advanced animals and plants? Why do we carry out breeding programs for flowers, marijuana, shrooms, fruit, even house plants?
Well, because we're still too fucking primitive to just directly modify the organisms or ourselves, or to synthetize the nutrients we need. Though even we have finally moved past the caveman methods and are (barely) starting to experiment with gene editing, protein folding and such.
>It’s what intelligent life does
It's what planetbound midwit apes do while they're still grasping with how to write things down.
>Even ants use aphids like ranchers move cattle
Yeah exactly, we're barely a step above a bug with a microscopic brain.

im waiting for that pre WW2 proof of flying saucers and people talking about gray aliens who use their sucking machines to harvest semen BTW

>>42175338
None of your so called “proofs” will ever count as real proof to the academy, to holy sciencerinoo or to the mainstream crowd and normies until the status quo is overturned either

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>>42175414
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/406341.Dimensions

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/98878.Operation_Trojan_Horse


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/128916124-chariots-of-the-gods-by?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=aCfFpFSvXT&rank=1

>but not heckin saucers

Yeah, there’s a layer of these paranormal phenomena that seems to adjust itself to the expectations and overall mindset of the era. There are plenty of reports where people witnessing the same UFO event describe completely different experiences, almost like it’s filtered through their personal belief systems. It doesn’t come across as nuts and bolts, reverse engineered tech every single time.

>>42175414
Books were written about it. Try the truth about the wunderwaffe, which has a chapter dedicated to the prototype anti-grav machine named "the Bell".

>>42173343
Most "ancient artifacts", are fake. There's a whole industry that produce fakes. Most egyptian artifacts are fake. Pyramids were probably build with liquefied stone around 1800. You never heard a mention of pyramids, or the sphynx, before 1800, and when some books mention them, the description is wrong.
I mean this annunaki stuff is dreamy sure, but Zecharia Sitchin is a 1970s author. And the sumerian tablets are probably fakes. Like most ancient artifacts, tablet, engraving, paintings, statutes, etc...

>>42175978
Anunaki = nephilim from the Bible. Probably real, but made with blood magic and sex magic, which produced 4 meter tall offsprings.
Reptilians stuff are not physical lizards, but luciferian snake type archetypes. Everything something is linked to knowledge, there is a snake archetype. From Shiva, to Quetzacoatl, to lucifer (snake), to asian dragons. It doesn't mean the reptiles are physical entities on the physical plane.

>>42175630

>ghosts and folk creatures were actually aliens!!!!!!

lmaoooooooooo

>>42166502
Some of the ships you see are coming from outside of this frequency not from the geometric space.
The ones that are crashing are from the "good E.T.s". We are the ones shooting them down with tech we got from the "bad" guys. They don't attack back, they could retaliate but they're perfectly aware we'd declare global martial law and a fake ayy invasion and play things into the hands of the bad guys

>>42176324

>the aliens are having a war in our skies,you just cant see it clearly

lol ok bro

>>42166502
Everyone with a driver’s license in theory has proven they know everything they need to know to drive safely and agreed to use the privilege responsibly, yet not all drivers are licensed and a million people die in car crashes every year for reasons both in and out of their control.

The thing that’s hard to believe is with all of space to explore a bunch of them crash on this little planet in less than 100 years

>>42176408

comparing cars with "ships" that can cruise the kuiper belt is diabolical

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>>42176386
We don't like your kind round here

>>42176498
Are you assuming it would take less focus to drive a UFO than a Nissan?

>>42173323
It must be painful to be so retarded. You have my condolences.

>>42176408
>implying driving a car is even remotely comparable to piloting a ship, let alone an interstellar spacecraft
>implying there's a meatbag at the commands
>implying they'd even want to enter our atmosphere

still waiting for that pre WW2 oroof btw

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>>42166502
>and from a spiritual sense

>>42166502
>>42166630
Your logic may not apply to all types of aliens

If there are aliens then one can assume there are many different types of aliens and some may not live in our plane of existence (dimension) and want to travel to come here.

I agree, some probably don't ever have to interact with Earth as they can get whatever they want in the vastness of space. Though they may seek intangelible items (memories, experiences, emotions, consciousness, research, additional data.etc)

So while you can go the kupier belt for resources, you can go to the kupier belt to get data on other life forms and ways of living.

Also it is possible that other aliens even if they can get material items from say the kuiper belt they may still suffer from constraints (collpasing population, a biological plague, being hunted,escape)

imo I think the breakdown for "aliens" is like this

1) Hyper-dimesonal beings - idk wtf these are but they are or would even look like desu

2) Robot like beings - They are so advance they don't need a body. They found a way to transfer conciousness out of the body

3) Nomadic beings (this is what you are talking about) - Entire alien species living in generational spaceships traveling the stars on a forever like basis - 3i/atlas could have been one (https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/03/7-3-billion-people-one-building.html)

4) Beings that can't do long term space travel or are just starting - this is us, and the bulk of most aliens species imo. Some alien species that are stuck in the bronze age, others that are 300 years more advance than us but still can't travel far.

5) Non robotic, space traveling beings living in our plane of existence

>>42178710

AGI aliens would never crash

Hitler truly believed in the paranormal and tried to search the rest of the world for the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail he didnt know that the Templars had obtained those relics first and hidden or destroyed them

>>42178733
they aren't crashes ;)

>>42166630
>>42166502

Here is another way to look at it. We as humans have advance computer models, we can build nucelar weapons, and we are now experimenting with anti-matter on an atomic level.

Why then would anyone want to waste their time to travel to the amazon jungle and study the ants living there eating a worm? Why waste time going to Africa to look at a spider mating under a rock?
Why are we putting sensors on pigeons and zebras and tagging them in a database?

anyways, I think that in the current state we are most likely being scoped out for a potential invasion if we haven't already been invaded.

>>42178737

the nazis even searched for atlantis lol funny bunch those germans

>>42178740
>I think that in the current state we are most likely being scoped out for a potential invasion if we haven't already been invaded.
based, you read that doctors book too aye?

>>42178744
He also believed that the white race was superior to other races and that they should dominate the world Hitler way of thinking reminds me of the Jews

>>42178755
>He also believed that the white race was superior to other races
yes
> that they should dominate the world
not really

>>42178740

you tell me why would anyone cruise the kuiper belt to hide in the shadows lol i dont believe in gray aliens

>>42178789
>why would anyone cruise the kuiper belt to hide in the shadows
why do you think you know what a different species might do based on your own propensity for attention whoring?

>>42178797

you tell me,you are the one creating this non existent aliens LMAOOO

>>42178803
>you are the one creating this non existent aliens
nice ESL brainlet, maybe you aren't capable of thinking of why someone might not want to be seen when conducting an operation lmfao

>>42166502
There are no individual owned planes that crash in remote areas

so no proof of farmers getting their semen milked using futuristic machines pre WW2?

>>42179311
not a farmer, but jacob jacobsson went through what we would call an abduction in 1759. here's a link detailing it, if you're being sincere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiZofPVLShg

>>42179311
again, if you're being sincere, look into "fairy abductions" before the 1800s and you'll find the experiences are nearly identical. now i'm not saying it's 100% confirmed, i'm simply saying there is meaning behind these encounters

>>42166502
We're shooting them down with next-gen physics weapons (1000 years beyond public sector). Low hit rate, think of some nigga on north sentinel island chucking a spear at a blackhawk helicopter with its window down, but this is how we've gotten their shit.

>>42169415
Were not gonna watch you're videos Nathaniel

>>42179392

we are not shooting down shit lmao

>>42179311
who said we dont have proof pre ww2 tardo? your fav eceleb "expert"?

>>42180006

post the proof

>>42180128
no, you first. you can't lmao

>>42166502
The Kuiper Belt is mostly empty space. If something coming from outside of our solar system is going to be hitting an object here at all, it is far more likely to arrive at the Sun or the planets (including Earth) than it is to crash on the small bodies with weak gravitational pull that you'd find in the Kuiper Belt or in the inner asteroid belt too for that matter

>>42180128
you just ignored my post detailing abductions before the 1800s lmao, brainlet