>>42174879
Indian yogis all say that yoga is dangerous without competent guidance, but it's not just stretching and breathing either. The yogi will gradually attain siddhis that become obstacles to moksha if he forms any kind of attachment to them. In the language of Western theology, this translates to "demonic influence."

because it invites the kundalini spirit /thread

>>42174879
https://m.youtube.com/@TheYogaBeliever

check out this channel for all you need to know about yoga

>>42174879
Don't you see Dhalsim spitting the fires of Hell?

>>42174893
wtf I just want to stretch and get rid of my contractures.
so, it is only harmful if you get into the spiritual side?

>>42174879
To some Christians: because each pose is rooted in ancient hinduism. For example sun salutations is praying to the sun god. To them it's a no-no because you're worshipping something other than the christian god whether indirectly or not. So it's demonic

To some other Christians: It's not demonic because it's about intention. You want to stretch and be healthier.

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>>42175063
on Europe christianism absorbed the pagan sun cult, making christ born on winter solstice, the triumph of light over darkness.
christianity is another sun worshiping way

>>42175102
I've heard of some other similar thing in another anecdote, so that's interesting

>>42174935
you can stretch, but you might need to curate your own stretches and flow. yoga even basic yoga will guide you to do things that will open you up to the kundalini, certain poses, corpse pose, mantras just being played or sung by others etc

>>42175230
what, corpse pose is just lying on the floor.
I don't use incense, think of kundalini or whatever, I try to relax the body and let the mind quiet.
how is this evil?

>>42174879
First: Yoga is not just stretching and breathing.

Second: "Yoga" in its commercialized version(LOSE BELLY FAT!) more common in the West can have strong sexual undertones at the cost of spending, and thus induce reduced loyalty, self-alienation, and wasted money as the practitioner chases a placebo effect(LOSE BELLY FAT!). It can also act as a door to Anti-Christian insights as practitioners run into random imported pagan yoga lore from the commercialized community.

Did I answer your question, fren?

>>42175263
what I understood is that I do not practice yoga, I stretcht. I use yoga poses, but not in a ritual way.
so it wouldn't me evil. or maybe yes because I'm using poses no matter what. idk

>>42174879
which type?

there are like 4 main ones

Also if you don't know what you are doing yea it can, but no demons involved

>>42175245
yeah pretending you are dead isn’t weird at all. grounding yourself while clearing your mind >>totally just stretching bro
I went to yoga instruction school. If you are just lying on the ground in a park or on the beach sure, but intentionally laying there with the mind cleared is where it crosses into invitation to something else. Intention is like 9/10ths but the pose still carries weight.

>>42175305
bro I just want to stretcht. how is lying on the floor evil? I'm not playing dead I'm trying to rest, it sounds prety retarded desu

Anybody got suggestions for progression to lotus? just want to meditate upright as long as physically possible.

>>42175230
Kundalini is the Word (vac) in bodies, a power (atma-shakti) awakened from within, not an outside spirit invited in. Christian mysticism also involves awakening Kundalini, it is called "infused contemplation," but the mystic can also experience visions etc which he is supposed to disregard, because they can come from demons. This is analogous to the siddhis, which are not Kundalini.
The difference between the two traditions is that whereas the Christian mystic is advised to let contemplation occur when and where it will, the yogi is actively trying to cultivate it and even go beyond it.

>>42175230
>yoga even basic yoga will guide you to do things that will open you up to the kundalini,
the biggest problem with reading about spiritual practices on /x/ is that you have a lot of garbage suggestions like this
how can the beginner tell the garbage from real stuff?
beginners, you can tell by who focuses on the fundamentals vs who focuses on saying shit the advanced people tell you is bullshit

>>42175263
>It can also act as a door to Anti-Christian insights
this is another garbage post
it goes something like this
read only what is approved by the church or you're inviting le demons in
read everything and discover the church never should have existed and jesus taught you dont need a church in order to commune with god, but there again its just a control mechanism and anyone who's looked into this with any sufficient depth is going to know that christianity is purposefully devoid of any real spiritual cultivation

>>42175305
>but intentionally laying there with the mind cleared is where it crosses into invitation to something else
this is the dumbest christian meme out there aside from its perfectly reasonable for a virgin to get pregnant by god directly
readers that can think will understand that this merely set up the notion that unless god himself fucked your mom, you cant have spiritual powers
cuz remember kiddies, anything that actually cultivates spiritual powers is le debil

>>42175410
ah sweet, a real question
easiest answer is just go look up stretches for full lotus on YT
its primarily a matter of your hips being open enough
if they arent its a recipe for knee & ankle problems

>>42175560
>Christian mysticism also involves awakening Kundalini
its beyond me why people invent trash like this and think its perfectly fine to grab notions from however many different traditions and mix them together

>>42174935
Stretching is spiritual. The danger comes from ignoring the spiritual reality in favor of some secular delusion. Honestly, you need to never come back to /x/ you are dangerously blind.

>>42175560
>it is called "infused contemplation,"
and a reminder that contemplation is the opposite of what needs to happen in order to make spiritual progress
this is literally what's meant by the mind of a human cannot know god
because spiritual cultivation is primarily cultivating the awareness
which does not take place when one is thinking
thinking during meditation time=spinning one's wheels in the mud

>>42175623
>Stretching is spiritual.
what the actual fuck.
I just want to stretcht my muscles what the fuck are you talking about.
are you aware that walking makes you stretcht and contract your muscles right?

>>42175560
>you need to never come back to /x/ you are dangerously blind.
this is a good sumup for this post here

>>42175627
dont listen to that retard
just doing the physical side of yoga has a .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002% chance of doing anything like what he's insinuating

>>42175627
Are you aware of walking Zen?
You dont make an argument. Trying to ingore spiritual practice and trying to force secularism into non-secular things is how people get harmed by spiritual practices. Guess what: almost all practice has spiritual components. Secularism is a self-imposed blindness that leads to literal disease.

>>42175713
I don't know shit about walking zen, I walk to get to places, I put one feet after the other and I don't know what the hell are you talking about. you are just telling me that everything has an spiritual side and I'm inviting demons to my body by walking or lying on the floor.

>>42175713
stop being a tard
you are posting garbage

>>42175576
>the biggest problem with reading about spiritual practices on /x/
It's not just here or the internet. Even on IRL it's full of pseudo experts who tell beginners all kind of lies.
I remember when I was a teen and I was just started with this kind of stuff how difficult it was to differentiate bullshit from real insight. And I'm into dream-related stuff, so I guess Yoga/oriental stuff are even more full of garbage.

>>42175713
>be me
>shit, I drop the keys
>bend down to get them
>oh fuck! my bicep femoris is extended!
>unwillingly summon a demon
>get assraped
>fire and sulfur rains from the sky.
I will never get anything from the floor again I swear

>>42175623
>>42175656
What kind of risks are you taking about? Are they the same of meditation or astral projection?

>>42175772
well part of that is just racism and most asians specifically withholding key pieces from gwailo

>>42175619
Nothing is mixed together, it's simply an eastern perspective on Christian spiritual doctrine. You cannot combine the Christian mystical way with yoga, as I explained above, they are incompatible and even diametrically opposed.
>>42175626
complete nonsense

>>42175783
there are no risks to stretching unless you happen to stretch too hard and strain a muscle/ligament
anyone who suggests otherwise is a retard

>>42175801
>Christian mysticism also involves awakening Kundalini,
it would help if you could even remember what you type
>complete nonsense
no you are just ignorant

>>42175801
>it's simply an eastern perspective on Christian spiritual doctrine
this is retarded and should be plenty enough for the reader to know that you have no idea what you're talking about and should entirely disregard every single post you make

>>42174879
It can't. Only retards think that. It's like people seeing kung fu moves named after animals and convincing themselves that the practitioners are trying to literally morph into animals.

>>42175777
Kek

>>42175814
>it would help if you could even remember what you type
What the mystic calls "infused contemplation," which appears to happen spontaneously, is called samadhi in yoga, with the difference that a yogi does not undergo it spontaneously but enters it at will. In either case Kundalini begins to ascend, which is to say that the mind is partially turned back on its source.
>no you are just ignorant
I will explain.
In the first place, no thinking takes place during infused contemplation. The senses are abstracted and thus the soul has no awareness of the body or any mental processes.
Secondly, spiritual progress is not predicated on presence or absence of thought. Your thoughts are absent every night in deep sleep, yet you make no spiritual progress during this time.

>>42175907
go look up what the word contemplation means, for starters
samahdi is entirely incompatible with contemplation
contemplation literally prevents samahdi from arising
you'd know this had you ever attained it
you are severely incorrect on the most basic of matters here
more words so that the beginner reading this can understand you're not speaking from any sort of experience, but rather made up your mind from reading things and coming to conclusions based on what sounds good in your own mind

>>42175942
>go look up what the word contemplation means, for starters
no u
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04324b.htm

>>42174879
Yes. On pornsites it always leads to demonic degenerate acts.

>>42175619
It is perfectly fine to grab notions from however many different traditions and mix them together, because all existing traditions were created by people doing this in the past.

>>42175263
Christianity is dumb though.

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>>42175102
>christianity is another sun worshiping way
God or Goddess. In Catholicism and Orthodoxy you can be a Athena/Isis/Moon goddess worshipper in the aspect of Mary Theotokos. It's beautiful and effective.

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>>42174879
Both asanas and meditation can allow karmic impressions (read: sin) to rise to the surface to be dealt with. Plus many of the asanas have bodily effects like cleansing the lungs, liver, internal organs etc. I was taking Inner Engineering and they offhandedly teach you a yogic jumping asana that clears clear blocked nostrils.

Yoga is a tremendous blessing to this world.

>>42175102
Very true

>>42174879
Its literally opening up your pussy and stretching out your butt cheeks inviting demons and evil spirits inside

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>>42175777
checked lmao

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>>42174879
It’s not demonic or harmful. It is stretching and breathing and it’s good for you.

>>42174879
Christians are retard. Everything that is not part of their gay ass religion is satanic or demonic or whatever. It's funny because all those evil things were created by their deity that they believe is God.

>>42176436
this. how the fuck are you going to suplex an ass raping demon if all you do is sit around all day being scared of them

>>42175560
>they hated Him because He told them the truth

>>42174935
>so, it is only harmful if you get into the spiritual side?
Don't give opening to these freaks, dude!!! You are going to regreat! Like, your gut feeling is telling you the truth. It's just stretching. How can stretching your body be evil? I mean, if you give an opening to these people they will share their delusions with you. Trust your gut feeling. If it is telling you that there's nothing wrong with it then that's it. That's the best filter you can ask for, it is your gut feeling.

pedos like to make kids do yoga

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the way normies do yoga does it even matter?

>>42176194
No tradition says this about itself. If it were true, then none would be of divine origin, and therefore they would all be quite worthless. However, it is the case that the apparent multiplicity of traditions is only a product of human reason, and this illusion is dispelled as soon as the goal is reached.

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Try this OP.

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>>42176787
If you can master this technique, learn how to retain your semen even after experiencing an ejaculation and then fuck a foid and absorb her vaginal fluid through your dickhole. You'll obtain immortality.

>>42176787
>>42176811
>called vaj rolly mud rag
>for men
tranny witchcraft

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>>42176848
woah, not often my instincts are correct

>>42176848
The tantra says the man must not ejaculate and the woman must not release verya. Emitting and then reabsorbing the semen after mixing with the verya is definitely wrong

>>42174879
Because the only people who say yoga is harmful or opens the door to demons are christfag pre-boomers who don't know what yoga is.

"Yoga" is just a useless vague term that refers to multiple things at this point.

-Generic religious devotion/mysticism
-occult meditations/energy practices
-antiquated bodybuilding directly related to European physical culture movement.
All called Yoga

>>42176913
I was doing a few asanas to start my workout at YMCA and this boomer fossil comes in and tries to tell me about "Christian yoga" which is just doing asanas but connecting a bible quote about animals or whatever to them. The ignorance of the typical westoid is boundless.

>>42174879
The only way that yoga can harm you is if you stretch wrong and pull a muscle. The "demon" nonsense was started by televangelist grifters in the '80's, and it's still repeated by modern grifters because they don't want to go through the effort of making up new bullshit for their grift.

>>42175063
Also, the sun god spirit takes it as worship, himself, as well as the rest of them even if you think its just stretching, since thats how they have been worshipped for a long time.

>>42176913
you still aren't going to get any women in yoga class.

>>42176811
Why not just cunnilingus?

>>42177777

>>42176110
go proselytize somewhere else with your new age religion salad
this is just christians realizing that christianity is devoid of any real spiritual practices or development and sought to add in things from elsewhere to make up for what was lacking

>>42176871
correct

bump for ass raping demons and absorbing female energy thru black magix

>>42174879
look at the "downward facing dog" pose, dog

y

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>>42176402
Do you know the origin or name of that painting? It’s very haunting and I’d like to learn more

>>42175305
What if i lie around and think of Jesus-kun?

>>42179021
>christianity is devoid of any real spiritual practices or development
Mainstream western Christianity and every religious sect spun off from it? Yes.
The Bible itself is pretty rich with spiritual insight symbolism, metaphysics, philosophy etc. but of course, this isn't the stuff that Christians want to discuss or think about.
Go to any church or Christian group in person or online and they'll give you the NPC fluoride stare and demonize you for talking about the contents in the book they claim to study and read.

>>42186949
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melun_Diptych

>>42186977
>another Christian devoid of real spirituality

>>42186977
>Go to any church or Christian group in person or online
the main teaching I took away from Jesus was that I dont need no stinkin groups in order to directly commune with god
I dont need no stinkin church or no stinkin pastor who had jews, cannibals, and rapists corrupt them
the council of nicea was a process of sterilization more than anything else

>>42186977
but anyway, christianity is utterly off topic and has absolutely nothing to do with OP, so things like that should be discussed elsewhere not in this thread
this is the problem with christians proselytizing all over and convincing all kinds of peoples of different traditions that they need to pay attention at all whatsoever to it
they ultimately see that it is lacking in a bunch of areas and take from their traditions to fill in where it is lacking
then you have this amalgam of shit where you have people saying utterly retarded mixes of things that make absolutely no sense

>>42174879
Christian nonsense as always. You can do yoga without worry anon.

>>42174879
so what school of yoga should I try if i´m in for the esoteric and occult? hatha yoga?