Almost once a day I pop a relaxing ambient/New age album and meditate. I can't tell why but it feels easier and more relaxing this way.Do you meditate with music ? Any recommendations ?
>>42175197https://youtu.be/VNvwVNuHJWk?si=gD8qvD5JNQl9V6Iehttps://youtu.be/XjKy1602RDE?si=gQrpBxhbufKgC_eE
>>42175197>Do you meditate with music ?nostimulating the vestibulocochlear nerve is not conducive to attaining perfect quiescence that reaches all the way down to the neurological levelput some earplugs in and refine your breath
>>42175197>I can't tell why but it feels easier and more relaxing this way.this is because your focus is not good and it gives you something to put your attention onreminder your attention has to go somewherethis is why refine the breath until you learn to pay attention to paying attention
>>42175197While it helps putting you in a relaxed mood, it's a crutch and probably not conducive in developing one pointed concentration.Use it to aid in relaxation in the beginning if needed then turn it off and meditate in silence.
I meditate to myNoises https://mynoise.net/noiseMachines.phpI don't use the sounds as an object of focus. I mostly just use it as a gentle timer (there's a timer feature) and secondarily for a relaxed, pleasant ambience.
>>42175674Tried it, I thought it would be worse with my tinnitus but it's alright.>>42175680>>42175864I dont have to worry too much about my second attention when I listen to music. I feel like a tyrant when I force my concentration on the second attention too. I'm still absorbed but it feels like an unnecessary fight.
>>42175674>attaining perfect quiescence that reaches all the way down to the neurological levelput some earplugs in and refine your breathYou are suppose to keep your eyes open during most meditations, the same should apply to all six senses no?
>>42175197I playback the beats of the latest dance tunes the youth be listenin to whilst I'm exercising, I'm incapable of meditating. same thing tho, i just focus on my breathing and shit.
>>42176062Nta but it varies between schools with each vehemently banging on about their particular dogmas.
>>42175197I'm kind of autistic so take this with a grain of saltI listen to this song every day, and this is the only song I listen to at all, ever. I listen to it on loop sometimes for hours. Sometimes I just leave it on all day long in the background. I'm not kidding. I listen to it when I'm in the car with my headphones on, when I'm walking around with people, when I'm in class working on shit. This is all I listen to, over and over, non stop, all the time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ub681YQENcIt works really well. I am basically never angry, I feel really nice and peaceful all the time, and very relaxed, dissociated you might say, but not in a bad way. I'm present just enough to laugh at jokes that are funny and smile and feel hopeful. It has just... erased all the bad feelings and bad vibes from my mind, literally droned them out. I feel happy and optimistic now, and I can focus on tasks and get things done and I'm not afraid of the future anymore.
>>42176051There shouldn't be any forcing and fighting, it should be the opposite.
>>42176062>You are suppose to keep your eyes open during most meditationsthat's just to help prevent slackers from falling asleep
>>42176051>I dont have to worry too much about my second attention when I listen to music. I feel like a tyrant when I force my concentration on the second attention too. I'm still absorbed but it feels like an unnecessary fight.you train it and defeat it and master the breath first before worrying about foofy things like muh comfyness
>>42176062>the same should apply to all six senses no?most traditions I've studied teach to restrain the senseswhen their activity is attenuated to nothing, yang transforms into yin and super quiescence is achievedits impossible to tell just how much energy is used by sense activity until one adjusts this baseline sufficientlyit is not an insignificant amount, I can assure you
>>42175197This guy is pretty much right >>42175864 #. If you want to learn to control your mind and follow the yoga sutra then do it without music but if you just meditate to relax then music is fine. Depending on how busy the sun is you could also make it into a meditative practice by trying to isolate your listening onto different parts of the song instrumentally or melodically, different intricacies pop out at you in different mind states.As long as your meditation matches your goal and you practice awareness while doing so then it's fine. There's many ways to meditate.
>>42179114>There's many ways to meditate.sure, but nobody should delude themselves into thinking they all have equal potential or outcome
>>42175197>Almost once a day I pop a relaxing ambient/New age album Recommend some albums man
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>>42179549>https://telepathtelepath.bandcamp.com/album/the-old-world-the-one-they-took-awayThis one was intense yesterday>https://geometriclullaby.bandcamp.com/album/desert-sand-feels-warm-at-nightA favorite of mine>https://biosphere.bandcamp.com/album/dropsonde-reissue-with-bonus-albumThis one is amazing, but I'm always on the edge of sleeping with that one>>42177098That why I asked if people are meditating with music, not if I should be doing it.>>42179180>nobody should delude themselves into thinking they all have equal potential or outcomeThat's what I'm looking for in the end. I want to understand the outcome. Anyway I'm doing half and half in my regimen, I dont want to fully give up on music right now.
>>42180255>I want to understand the outcomeI should make a distinctionthere's breath refinement (needed to really achieve superlative levels of stillness)there's stillness/awareness cultivationand then there's a ton of different energy practiceswhen cultivating stillness, restraining the senses means eliminating all sources of stimulationof particular note are all the cranial nervesso sounds existing to divert your processing times ultimately arent helpingyin and yang always transform into each otheryangstuff, i.e. the ton of different energy practices, dont produce much yinyinstuff, i.e. stillness, does, and boosts the effect of the yang practicesthis is another reason I dont teach energy practices here, there's tons of different stuff out there and its somewhat a personal choice what to undertakemanaging students, impossiblein the same way you dont give toddlers matches to play with, ya know?lots of things exist within systems, but stillness and breathwork underpin all of themstillness and breathwork ultimately become awareness cultivation, when the autonomic processes are well programmed by habitual training
