The Earth could still be flat even if the Moon is upside down because if you tape a paper plate with a face on it to the ceiling and go to the other side of the room, the face would be upside down even though the room has no curvature.
>>42183659Earth is not flat.Buy a laser pointer, record with your phone, and rent a boat.You can disprove flat Earth in a weekend at the beach.You don't need to get in a fucking rocket.
>>42183662It’s widely known in rich circles that the earth is flat. I thought it was horseshit until I was in a plane and watch the sun never set. We’ve been lied to about how big and far the sun is.
>>42183666The orbital mechanics are consistent.Homo sapien had to watch dots move around in the sky, for hundreds of years, before we ever mapped it out, but we did it, because those guys didn't have smartphones and TV.They had dots moving in the sky, and time.You can ask AI for a handful of experiments you can do yourself.Then fight your own experimental results, if you would like.Curvature is real. What we know about astronomy is real.You can bitch and moan about it, but if you don't make the effort to experimentally falsify it yourself, you're just a parrot of ignorance.
>flat earth could be true if you ignore all of this peer reviewed scholarship across centuries, and tweak this mathematical model until it stops working correctly, and make all these increasingly ridiculous assumptions because I can't understand what scale is and think in cartoons
>>42183767this except also living with light pollution and not ever having seen a single star in the skyalso if literally any of (You) think the night sky looks like this you are chronically fucking retarded btw
>>42183659The earth is thicc.
The earth is flat and the sun and moon are close and the same size
I don't believe that flat Earthers are real, I believe they just annoy others for fun.What's interesting about the Moon is that it's tidally locked to Earth which means that we always see the same side of it. The dark side of the moon is actually a real thing.
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>>42183702you didnt address what he said tho
>>42184335Why do I even need to?The onus for a retarded take, is on the retard to ponder it.
>>42184598always the reddit spacing, why?
>>42183666>I thought it was horseshit until I was in a plane and watch the sun never setIf Earth were flat you would also never see the Sun set. It would get smaller as it approaches the horizon (doesnt happen in real life) but it would never set - also doesnt happen in real life. The fact that the sun does NOT change in size during the day and sets below the horizon and the fact there is a horizon in the first place is proof Earth is a globe that rotates arounds it's axis, just like every other fucking planet or moon in the galaxy. For fuck's sake all it takes is a simple telescope to see Jupiter turning around it's axis and its moons rotating around Jupiter. It also shows Mercury and Venus having the same phases as our moon.
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>>42184670Hello Zoomer and/or Gen Alpha.You may not be familiar with this concept, but I am what is called an "old fag".The problem with being an "old fag" is that I am actually fucking old.I was using 4chan before reddit existed.I was using 4chan before you probably existed.I have spaced like this since 2004.Because I am vision impaired.Fuck you.This is 4chan spacing, by me.If reddit is copying me, that's their problem.Sincerely, Me.
>>42184864ok r/edditor
>>42184864I thought you'd respond with some old troon bullshitKill yourself, arguing with a flerfer at age 60 on a mongolian basket weaving board.
>>42183666The sun would also never set when viewed from the ground, dipshit.
>>42184314>The dark side of the moon is actually a real thingIt's not. The sun lights it exactly 50% of the time. It should be called the "other" side of the moon.
>>42184739Don't forget the fact that the sun would have to speed up in (the N. hemisphere's) winter in order to cover the same distance with a larger circle, and then slow down for our summer while also moving toward the center (N. pole)And it would be tethered to nothing and does this magically
>>42185174You got your shit pushed in homie>>42183870This is why flatties are tarded. You HAVE to acknowledge that a sphere can exist, so large, that from standing on its surface it would appear flat or mostly flat. That's non-negotiable. So the only question is -how big would it have to be-Well, guess what, fuckheads? Every planet and moon in our solar system is big enough to appear flat while standing on its surface.
>>42185306the fact that it appears to move at the same rate across the sky for every single person on the planet irrespective of location and time of day should really be enough evidence, but of course for flerfs it never is.
We are definitely not on an infinitely upward-accelerating pizza with tethered light sources.
>>42185352Also, solar analemma (ANAL Emma lmao) is completely predictable using maths based on a rotating sphere orbiting a star.
>>42184864No you’re just a faggot
Globe model makes all predictions with 100% accuracyFlat earth has no model and use usefulness
>>42183662>You don't need to get in a rocket but trust me, the guys who are qualified to be in rockets totally aren't psyoping us. I know this because I think I can determine earth geometry with a laser and recorder>>42183702>The sky is indeed the ground, Im definitely not a crack smoker thoughGot bad news for you, the sky isn't the ground and you probably smoke crackIf you have a single experiment give the hypothesis as it's required for all experimentOh you meant experiment for earth curve? That would be non sequitur and a category error. Geometry and measurements arent science experimentsAstronomy isn't even a natural science please leave chemistry physics and biology to that
>>42186542>I don't understand tangents
>>42183659Earth is flatter than a pancake. Plus or minus 7 miles height / depth covers everything.
>the flerfer tard's ban is overWell, it WAS a nice month.
>>42186572Can you tell me what I don't understand or are you just lazy?You seem to not understand that tangents are independent of whatever shape their on. Wheres the spherical tangents that we're physically drawing on earths surface? Not conceptual tangents, I hope you realize we're discussing reality here and not concepts
just let them stew in their own shit, flat earthers are not worth your attention
>>42187799>ad hominem fallacyFlerfers can't think.
>>42183666Prove you're rich and have access to those circles brother, sounds like a load of hogwashReality doesnt real if earth is flat
>>42183659You would see the paper play regardless of your position on a flat plane.
>>42184864Oh I get it oldfag you've been posting here so long you never learned how to format
I don't think the earth is flat, but I see the globe defenders ITT as a group of very angry people that are chimping out over somebody questioning the foundation of reality they had drilled into their heads at school. They lack the intellectual prowess to entertain the possibility, but they're not smart enough to do anything other than repeat what people told them in school/youtube video, thus whenever they post, it reads like>the primary school textbook says you're stupidand other tautological claims that are true because they're true. There are exceptions to this, it's not even a rule, just something very common.It gets difficult to say who's the glowie, bots shitting up the board with flat earth threads, or the retarded bots screeching at them. Probably both, with actual humans being rare.
>>42188031>I see the globe defenders ITT as a group of very angry people that are chimping out over somebody questioning the foundation of reality they had drilled into their heads at school.its nothing to do with that and everything to do with flat earthers spamming their crap all over the board every day for years.its very likely you know this and are just pretending to be all shocked and surprised. its a very common flat earth shill tactic.
>>42188031It's more that there are very clear and easy ways for a single person or group to go out and prove the earth's curvature, but flerfers will never ever do them.Like you.I could give you an experiment that proves it, but you wont go do it.You will goi find a youtube video that tells you why it doesnt work, and repeat that.I went out and measured the earth.I am confident in my results.It has nothing to do with what anyone else says.You cant make this claim.
>>42188033You don't have to believe that I'm genuine. I don't go to flat earth threads very often (I only like the ones entertaining the idea of larger earth with the different continents and all, like pic rel), but whenever I do, I seldom see people who are actually wise/smart enough to prove their points (that the globe is a globe), it devolves into throwing names very quickly (both sides). I see more intellectual curiosity from some of the flat earthers, even if misguided.That said, I have seen threads with actual, good arguments, that aren't based on referencing a youtube video, or aren't true just because the teacher said so. But not this one. I know people in real life, who are very combative about it, but they don't actually understand much of the "science" behind it, they just repeat reasoning from some pop sci youtube channel they like. I see that as a way dumb people use to feel intellectually superior (which I assume, they don't get to very often) bashing on an opponent they consider inferior, while they're not actually putting any of the curiosity or effort into it. Anyway, I just ignore the threads, those who are in them participating in a circle of calling each others retards, are indeed retards, regardless of their stance on earth's shape.
>>42188037>I could give you an experiment that proves it, but you wont go do it.I won't because I don't care, I don't think the earth is flat, this is not my battle, and you don't have power over me. You, however, will not give it because you're not intelligent enough to understand what you're arguing. You could have proven me wrong, yet you chose to the tactic I see used every time and that my initial post was about.I'm always open to learning, however.>pic rel from my previous post
>>42188059>I won't because I don't careThen why come into the thread?Why pretend like people that DO care are the ones out of place?>You, however, will not give it becauseBecause you just proved you wont do it, purely because you are lazy and know it will prove that Earth is curved.>You could have proven me wrongYou made no claim to prove wrong.>I'm always open to learning,>I won't because I don't careLiar.
>>42188052>Anyway, I just ignore the threadsNo you dont, as evidenced by you posting in them.You are scared to admit you are a flerfer, because you know its retarded, but you oh so want it to be true so you can be special.
>>42188070>>42188070>Then why come into the thread?>Why pretend like people that DO care are the ones out of place?I will explain by the end of this message, why I came here, if it's not evident from my first post, to you.I do care about the quality of discussion on the board.>Because you just proved you wont do it, purely because you are lazy and know it will prove that Earth is curved.I can't be assed, that's true, but that's because I haven't seen anything that'd convince me of Earth being flat. I don't see the need. I see that you think you're very smart by unmasking me "being a flat earther pretending not to", but that's not true. I know that there are empirical proofs for it being a globe, I don't think you are capable of proving it, though, based on how reluctant you are. >You made no claim to prove wrong.I did, and you have quickly proven it right. Read my initial post >>42188031Your reluctance to provide anything of substance confirms my claim that you're just here to engage in intellectual masturbation and demean those that dare disagree with you. You had two chances, by the way. >Liar.Is that the american reading comprehension? I won't go out and do what you want me to. I can entertain a thought experiment, however, supposing there even is one. Now for the promised disclosure - I'm here to remind you that if you're here screeching at OP, calling him a retard, saying things like>I have an experiment, but you won't do it>I have proofs but you won't read itetc. you're being just as annoying and harmful as flat earth OP, while being even more retarded, if you could believe it. Anyways, I want to stay true to myself so this is the last you'll hear of me. Feel free to go back to shit smearing, I can't change minds forcefully. I just hope that, one day, you'll both be able to understand it.
>>42188052if you rarely lurk flef threads then you're not seeing things in proper context at all. you have to realize that there is a small group of very active and determined shills and bots on here that have been constantly, for years, spamming the same flat earth memes and talking points over and over again in any thread they can.you'r right that those opposing these shills should always remain calm and polite and often thats the case. sometimes however the frustration at these scum bubbles over in shouting matches and insults, as the same point and lying meme is posted up again for the 9000the time. what you've claimed to see in this thread (that the mean globers are rude etc etc) is what the shills want you to think so that you have a bit of sympathy with the flat earthers.do not be fooled at all. they are vicious lying faggots here to shit the board up and poison the well. you will see a lot of this stuff during the artemis II mission so maybe keep an eye out for it in such threads. try to see the pattern and usual suspects. watch for their utterly dishonest tactics
>>42183659Flat earth threads are such looush farms form both sides lol
>>42188103>I do care about the quality of discussion on the board.You are actively degrading it.>I don't see the need.The only way to come to this is if you have already gone out and done so, which you would have said, or if you were lying when you said you dont accept what people tell you.>based on how reluctant you are. I said the reason I wouldnt bother, and you confirmed that reason.>Your reluctance to provide anything of substanceI said I would give you an experiment if you would do it, and you immediately said you never would.I am here to prove that you wont go outside and prove anything.And you have done so.
>>42188106I believe you, anon, but I think that engaging them, getting angry, getting into name calling contests with them is part of what the shills want to achieve with their spam. Isn't it better to just ignore them in the first place, if you're not going to be honest about it?Again, you don't have to believe me, but I really do not think the earth is flat, I don't think most of these threads are genuine either, I just don't like seeing anons falling for it. Assuming there are even real anons engaging. I'll be on the lookout in such threads, then, thank you.
>>42188106You think that's a worthwhile tactic? I'm guessing mr "you guiz are mean!" is the same shill.They're just begging for someone to put up content so they can put up false arguments.
>>42188124>is part of what the shills want to achieve with their spam.it is im sure. bots and shills are paid to remain calm and consistent and they are. the anons pushing back against their campaign are just hobbyists and occasionally vent their frustrations. its just the way it is over time. for anyone watching for more than a thread or two the obvious shill tactics and repetitive posting are enough to expose the shilling and hopefully explain why some anons get pissed at times.most artemis launch related threads are getting the bots and shills attention at the moment and there have been several up at once for a couple days now, with the shills no doubt starting half of them.enjoy the show.
>>42188128>You think that's a worthwhile tactic?i think its just part of their shilling. they play innocent no matter how many times and how obviously they are running their dishonest routine so that anyone not familiar with how these flerf threads always go might get the idea that 'gee, these flat earthers seem to calm and reasonable and those against them are just emotional and mean etc etc, maybe the flerf has a a point.....'. its worth keeping in mind at least
>>42183659>This board is for high quality discussion>Unironically discussing flat earthAre there any boards on 4chan that aren't filled with retards?
>>42188037>Do an experiment blah blah blah>I measured blah blah blahThe whole purpose of science experiment is to demonstrate cause and effect which would be an explanation. The only way to have an explanation is if it's validated. If you can't do those things you don't have an experiment You don't have cause and effect with earth geometry, it's simply measured and described asIdk why I love repeating this shit constantly on here it gets old, probably because correcting retards will never stop being fun>>42188106>Wah wah waah let my cry about this one flerf who spammed his copy pastaSo now it's all flat earthers via guilt by association It's like you don't even care to have a serious honest discussion about it. Not my problem though, glerfs make up all kinds of excuses Have you ever considered that not 100% of everything is a shill bot campaign?
You know for the month you were banned, there wasnt a single flat earth thread?It really is just one retard.
>>42188314>Have you ever considered that not 100% of everything is a shill bot campaign?of course. have you ever considered that some things are and taken the time to see that its quite likely the case?
>>42188314>It's like you don't even care to have a serious honest discussion about it.im always willing to do that and have done many many times over the years. it quickly became clear that flat earthers are the most dishonest posters imaginable as they twist and writhe around evading points and questions they dont like, forever changing the subject to avoid getting pinned down to anything specific and so on. No matter how many times anyone bothers to take a flat earther seriously and work through whatever their meme of the moment is, they just repost it again in the next inevitable flat earth thread and the whole thing begins again.its this behavior that marks flat earth in general as a force chilled subject, not to mention the way its injected into all manner of other threads over and over again.there are such obvious bots posting the same thing, over and over, for years on end. the exact same posts, exact same flags where they are used.
