Redpill me on Mithraism.
>>42190402Hang on let me read the wikipedia page real quick
It's bull shit!(Get it? Get it?)
Read Genuflect by Tracy Twyman
it's not from persia. it's a cult of perseus and was associated with persia because there was a tradition that perseus' son perses (which is also the name of the 6th grade of mithraism) founded persia. the constellation perseus sits over taurus in the sky. the other animals are other constellations. the true origin is tarsus in anatolia where stoicism and the cult of perseus were prominent. it's probably connected to the "discovery" (i believe it was already known by a few very learned men) of the precession of the equinoxes. the lion headed god (leontocephaline, he also has various other heads that align with zodiacal signs. when the equinox was in taurus, leo was the summer solstice), probably arimannius, is a version of the aion, similar to yaldabaoth or abrasax. mithras is the hypercosmic sun, the one beyond, who causes the precession. mithraism is heavily, heavily subverted by freemasons and all sorts of weirdos with daddy issues. it wasn't gay or some sort of hypersatanic cult that wanted to destroy the world.
>>42190511>cult of perseusMithra predates all of this, to include Greece and Rome by a couple thousand years.
>>42190556a mithra which the cult didn't really have much to do with. mithra isn't even recorded as slaying a bull either in persia or in india as mitra. if anything ahriman is considered to be the bull slayer
>>42190511Thank you for this educated post, fren
>>42190496this onealso, watch 'the conspiracy' (2012)
>>42190556You know which culture predates persia and has the word mitra as friend and also name of sungod?
>>42190511Where did you get this from? Jason Jorjani has said similar things about Mithra and the precession of the equinoxes. I wanted to suggest another possibility, though I haven't tried to do map it out (because I don't know how).Suppose that you have a geocentric model of the universe. What keeps the "wandering stars" in line? There's a missing variable. I think this is why Saturn is so prominent. It's one of the largest objects in the sky, and it has a much slower cycle than most of the other visible. A single saturn cycle is about 30 years.Jorjani also makes the connection between Mithra and Saturn. Essentially, Saturn controls the rotation in one direction, and then the hidden force in the sky controls the precession.I also want to point out that if this is true, it makes it clear why Saturn and the sun would have such a strong connection. In a heliocentric model, "saturn" as the force which causes the planets to orbit, is just the sun and its gravity. I don't buy any of the hokey nonsense that our planet used to rotate around Saturn, but it's possible that the transition from a geocentric to a heliocentric model created this confusion.
>>42193684>Suppose that you have a geocentric model of the universe. What keeps the "wandering stars" in line?Jesus Christ, dudeRead Shrimad BhagavatamYou're just guessing out of your own ignorance like all materialists when the answer has already been uncovered by the holy men of antiquityOr you can just keep being a bitch and crying about muh ebil saturn boogeyman like all the other faggot "occultists"
>>42190496As much as I respect her research, it'd be wise to balance it out with a pro position
>>42193735>muh ebil saturn boogeyman like all the other faggot "occultists"I'm not saying Saturn is evil. >Read Shrimad BhagavatamIt confirms the point about it being the slowest of the visible planets, but Jorjani said that there was a second notion of a hidden force about it. I'm just saying maybe they associated that with the force that makes the geocentric model work, but I'm not very knowledgeable on how geocentric models work. However, I do understand the idea also of a hidden force to explain equinox precession, so I took that same idea and applied it to geocentrism.
>>42190402The Cult of Mithras is a secret
>Mithraism.https://voca.ro/1jjetmPKTU32
>>42191653Armenia?
>>42193792Answering my own question... it seems that this text leaves the explanation of the planets to pravaha, which is a type of wind, and both Saturn (Sani) and Pravaha are an aspect of Vishnu. I don't think this really confirms nor denies much. Where does pravaha come from? The text doesn't really say.
>>42190749Its bs he made up btw. Mithras is literally a persian deity of oaths and covenants. But yeah Mithras was based as fuck and essentialy a military fraternity worshiping the things that actually make a good society run (oaths, covenants, loyalty between monarch and his soldiers).
>>42193684it's from The Origins of the Mithraic Mysteries: Cosmology and Salvation in the Ancient World as well as a paper The Meaning and Function of the Leontocephaline in Roman Mithraism.jorjani seems like maybe he was influenced by the book but still conflates mithras with mithra. i dont really know because i refuse to read his trash, he's one of the aforementioned pathological liars with daddy issues.i have heard it said both ways, that saturn is the sun of the night, or that saturn is merely the gate to the hypercosmic sun beyond the cosmic sphere in the subtle realm of the aether, the empyrean, the realm of light outside of plato's cave. i lean towards the latter, but they aren't even necessarily opposing viewpoints.it seems to be an idea common among left hand path types that all gods were once human and all myths were just stories about people who became gods and therefore they too can become a god. it's a sort of spiritual materialism, very similar to the processes that created judaism where mesopotamian and canaanite myths about gods and heroes became flattened stories about patriarchs and prophets. of course, materialism leads to this nihilistic despairing left hand path type shit.
>>42193684The association of Saturn to solar deities isn't unique to Mithraism. Some reading you might find interesting:https://axismundi.blog/en/2018/03/03/saturn-the-black-sun-of-the-beginnings/https://axismundi.blog/en/2017/04/10/apollokronos-in-exile-ogigia-the-dragon-the-fall/https://axismundi.blog/en/2016/11/14/cernunno-odin-dionysus-and-other-gods-of-the-winter-sun/
It's basedhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mithraismhttps://www.gnosis.org/library/grs-mead/grsm_mythra.htmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRY9jdrcYAI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurvanism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w07XH_j3L2Uhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictushttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sol_Invictus
https://solarcult.org/images/Mitra_Varuna.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arimanius
>>42190402Is just pagan Christianism, Mithras is Jesus
>>42193878>jorjani seems like maybe he was influenced by the book but still conflates mithras with mithra.I think you make an interesting point to separate the two. I've studied all of the noble houses of around the time of christ, which also happens to be around the time that Mithras was coming into Rome. There are many decent size kingdoms between Persia and Rome, including Armenia and Pontus to name a couple significant ones (see: Mithridatic Wars). These guys claim to descend from Persians, and they are all situated in or near Anatolia. However, that can be read two ways: either Persians moved west, or they are actually saying that the root bloodlines that formed the Persian Empire are what they descend from, even if don't actually come from Iran.However, at this point, I think it's worth clarifying that the Scythian Empire was before Persia, and there seems to be a line of descent there as well. Scythia was more central. I believe Macedonian royals were Scythian. So really, we'd be talking about Mithras as a Scythian figure.I'm being pretty hand wavey though. Someone may jump in with more detail.
Jorjani is an intelligence asset working to destabilize the Iranian government. He might straight up work for the Mossad
>>42193973He also wants to encourage critical-thinking Americans and Europeans to support Zionist and interventionist wars in the Middle East
>>42193886Speaking of the sun, my other recent idea on this was about the concept of the year. I have to sadly admit that it took me a while to understand that when people said that years used to be counted starting in March/April, that didn't mean they started counting on the third month. In other words, in the pre-solar calendar, February was the last month.If you start your calendar at the start of spring, then the seasons make so much more sense metaphorically. Spring is youth, Summer is the height of your young adulthood, maybe into 30s. Fall is 40s-50s. Winter is 60s-death. In the past, maybe the number were different because lifespans were different, but you get the idea.This led me to the idea that if you start your calendar in Spring, you are basing your concept of time on the concept of life. This includes actual plant and animal life that is readily observable, and it includes the metaphor for your own life.Conversely, if you start your calendar based on the sun, so the sun is technically rebirthed right after it dies at the winter solstice, then you are basing your concept of time on distant planets that are mostly just abstract concepts.I'm not sure if choosing between these two is saying anything meaningful about your society, but I could see how one might associate the solar version as more gnostic and the life-based version as more tantric.
>>42190402Mithras slaying the Bull of Heaven is probably mythological representation of the End of the Tauran Age. It's a Roman cult (small religion, not the Christcuck meaning) that was mostly Legion based. Pisces (The Xtian fish) OTOH is the pun on the rise of the Piscean Age, and a description of Christ's name. Like most Roman cults, it was a burial society.
>>42190402Roman soldiers that fought in the east picked up a surface knowledge of some of the rituals of the locals, then mixed them with their own to form a secret society/social club for veterans and their families. Think the Masons, American Legion, and VFW all rolled into one.
>>42195019Going off of this too, Gilgamesh and Enkidu killed the Bull of Heaven, sent out by Inanna. Taurus along with Libra are both ruled by Venus in astrology.
>>42195198Seems like Blavatsky (theosophy) before Blavatsky.
>>42190407Kek. These threads are such obvious slide threads>durrr red pill me on blank I can read about with ai or wiki
>>42195198More like a deliberate inversion of Persian beliefs. Mithraism rose to prominence during the Parthian wars, Persian Mirthra is a guardian of cattle while the Roman Mithras is usually depicted slaying a bull, The Mithraics revered a deity known as Arimanius which sounds very similar to the malefic Ahriman of the Persian.
>>42193775https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyIyXJs3u38two uncs going off
>>42198524>guardian of cattleYeah but you keep cattle safe from others so you can kill them yourself.
