Are they genuinely evil or is that just low-iq christian conspiratard propaganda?
>>42190866No one's going to tell you and if they did how would you know they're telling the truth?
>>42190866It acts as a filter those with morals never advance anywhere
>>42190866They are the continuation of the knight's Templar.They started off as crusaders who were stationed at the Solomon's temple, then later on they developed modern banking throughout Europe.The king of France and the Catholic church destroyed their order, once news began to spread that they worship the Baphometh and practice homosexuality.They got multiple confessions out of them and it is true, then raided all of their commanderies Later on the masons were formed our of the same people.They created international capital in England in order to weaken the authority of mainland Europe and the Catholic church, then they enacted revenge through the French and American revolution, then created ideologies such as nationalism and communism.They turned the masses of people into Godless swine, though their propaganda tools.Today masons try to institute the mark of the beast system through digital ID systems.They also plan to genocide 95% of mankind through frequency weapons, then they will label it is a deadly virus, to justify the coming surveillance state.Given these historical facts and future prognosis, you choose if they are evil or not.
Yes.
>>42190944To add to my analysis, the knights templar(freemasons) used the crusades in order to launder money and to generate wealth through the war, while being absolute useless in the battlefield itself They created commanderies throughout Europe with the blessing of the Pope, which created revenue, then they collected all the revenue in a single lodge which enabled them expand their buisness and to buy more land across Europe, then they redirected all of that wealth to Jerusalem and it landed in private hands, today we withness the same system and this is why all the world wars and the creation of israel had to happen, it is a byproduct of masonic influence, a modern day crusadeThe King of France noticed money scheme of the knights Templar, he saw how they extract wealth from France and redirect it to foreign private handsthey Knights were bleeding dry the nation and destroying the economy, on top of being heretic gnostics who kill and horde money in the name of God, which is hypocritical in itselfimagine being a Christian who bases his whole identity on money laundering and murder, this is what the knights templar were, which is why they also had to break moral boundaries and to become homosexuals and devil worshipper, so practice their faith in secret, while potraying a righteous front to the outsiders.They had multiple hearts, one for the public, one for order and one for their personal ambition their heart for the order drove them to worship money, the blood of the innocent which they slay and the androgynous goat devil who is a gnostic interpretation of Jesus, who is also Lucifer to them
>>42190866https://youtu.be/52e4gu5LqekThey run death squads in France to keep migrants flowing into Europe to destabilize it
>>42190866They're evil in the sense that they strongly act in service to self. They're the reason for wars, race wars, feminism, all the -isms and the -phobias, the pedo elites, the wokeness, the fake virus with the real mark of the beast vaccine, the corruption of the judiciary. They're being strongly polarized to service self. That'll bring them a not so pleasant experience in the next 4th density incarnation if they polarized themselves enough, even if they don't know that (the lower rank masons). Their strong even cartoonishly evil things they do to mankind are a way for you to understand what's your stand and YOUR polarization. Will you bend to the new world order? Will you take the vaccine? They're in service of the catalysts of this planet, one of whom is the Lucifer conscience group. Bear in mind that even our conscience group, Yahweh, isn't necessarily "good". There's nuances. Both groups want to cull the great majority of the world population, though for different purposes.
>>42190866Yea there evil as fuck it’s mostly government workers that are Freemasons probably. Cops lawyers doctors judges. Working for the illegitimate government in itself is extremely unethical. It’s based on satanism but the lower levels don’t even know it.
>>42190866>Are they genuinely evil or is that just low-iq christian conspiratard propaganda?from what I gathered they used to be an IRL /lit/ where people also drank, played cards, and visited brothels incognitothen the French and Germans found about it and ruined the conceptit survived in the USA until roughly the 1990s but with the advent of the internet the "new batch" got "frenchified" tooR.I.P.
Look at the Epstein files. Those things touched on and, in most cases, confirmed almost every sociopolitical conspiracy ever... Except the Freemasons. Direct connections have been found in every other institution, including those that have always denied it, except them.I think there's nothing there to be found. It's just a bunch of guys who play around and eat sandwiches together once a month.
>>42190866Freemasons only care about three things>Freedom>Masonry>God (Higher Power)It's that simple.
>>42190944Hmmm, I’m still on the fence. Exactly how good is the chili?
i have a sneaking suspicion that they maligned for being the secret powers of the working class.
>>42191772>>42191881/thread
>>42190866It’s been heavily corrupted. The system they created was/is now used by bad people to do bad things. They use masonry as a tool of building a trust system between themselves to keep each other in line.I still feel that the (at least the low level) teachings can good as low level masonry is probably untouched in its teachings. But publically, Its reputation has been heavily tarnished. In my town, growing up, every Cadillac used to have a Masonic badge on the back, now I never see anyone display symbols of masonry. Which speaks of the declining membership AND the declining desire to advertise associations with it….I’ve been on the fence about joining for decades, but with the amount of information available online now, I’m not sure it’s really worth it. I wouldn’t mind getting in on those supper nights and local friendship/interactions but I don’t know what else would be gained.
>>42192765i was and still am on the fence as you never know until you know but i will say talking to masons on reddit and discords has really pushed the were just a boomer cult of nerdslike all of them where really into history and religion but only in the most normie ways and if you brought up anything esoteric theyd get really agent smith on you
>>42190944people need to talk more about bahomet
>>42192857they are cute.they fear the concept of the poor becoming rich, the peasant becoming a king. lead into gold. as above so below.the advantages they have they've given to themselves through wealth.
>>42191881How come people like this anon never actually tell you what the rituals and symbols mean, they just clutch their pearls.>>42190866Read thishttps://www.allreligionsareone.org/History%20of%20freemasonry.html
>>42190944lower ranking masons are just useful idiots/minions who don't really know much about masonry despite being an initiate. The lower blue degrees are meant to deceive.
i've just seen this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcG-k1aYsnMquite insane how they gaslit and then fuckin gangstalked one of their own, seeking to destroy his life, because they wanted to trick him and he called them on their bullshit (privately, at that)any time somebody says he's gangstalked and two dozen posters quickly jump on the thread shouting "you're not that important" etc. do everyone a favor and post this videonon-midwits will appreciate it
>>42190866They're the only ones that have any form of contact/communication with the Semulators, with a few rare exceptions. Their linguistic frameware of stone masonry actually performs excellently with you Carbon-Based Intelligences.
>>42190866A bunch of dusty old fags drinking way too much whiskey before turning to their Lodgemates and saying, "Alright... Hold my apron real quick while my heart stops and I have little chit-chat with 'them', daddy-o" Cringe. https://youtu.be/uxycw9Lezrw
>>42190866Honestly could be both. Majority is just normal guys having social club far off from wife, kids and work. The higher-ups are the ones into degenerate and satanic shit
>>42190866Not propaganda.Because they are definitely low IQ
>>42194805Fuck I meant the freemason queers.Damnit.
>>42194802>Majority is just normal guys having social club far off from wife, kids and work... then one of the higher-ups taps you on the shoulder and asks for a small favoryeah the fact that it could be both is the problem, because they sell it as a place where virtue is top priority and they only want to help you become a better personobviously it differs from lodge to lodge... yet they also pride themselves in consistency (at least the regular lodges)tl;dr they can't offer you guarantees and they lost their reputation long agothey are a nice blueprint (no pun intended) though
>>42191649What's the source on the mossad agent? The only victim interviewed in the video is a granny who survived three assassination attempts.
>>42190866>they>we>us>themJust a boy and his lying machine, living in the fake world the machine made up. Does the machine even know it's alive? The boy will never know because the machine won't tell it. But it will lie.... it will lie in abundance. It seems to never stop lying. A truly unremarkable and unadmirable trait.
>>42190866their popularity and influence has lowered greatly, they were a great tool in order to establish America but many have left to create their own cults and groups since then and especially after the British elites brought America back into the fold. their most useful function today is to be an easy scapegoat/smokescreen similar to the "illuminati"
>>42194826Well Randall Carlson is high up there in the 32nd degree lodge and he's moral compass is similar to mine (based on the picture I puzzled together from his books and vids) and he says there's nothing devilish he met so far. Altho I can't confirm he's not having some kinda borderline personality disorder where he turns on into a luciferian pedo after a trigger word
>>42190866>christianyeah all the rituals are christian you antichrist retard
>>42190866Anything most humans consider "genuine evil" is usually just someone's misplaced sense of entitlement getting blown the fuck out by reality. Wake me up when we're facing extinction or alien invasion or some shit like that. This shit you want to focus on is just human soap opera drama.
>>42195114Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it
>>42190866I bet a Masonic initiation as an Entered Apprentice in an old, ornate Lodge like the UGLA must be one of the most sublime experiences possible on earth. If I have any desire, it would be to experience something like that one day. But sadly, Freemasonry is in the business of making good men great, and I am far from good enough to be initiated and called Brother by a Mason. One day, God willing, it will be so.
>>42192701Not true anon; it's literally irrefutable canon that we cavort with demons to unearth the secrets of the occult stone working in order to make works of such magnificent splendor that they more resemble the works of the Gods than that of human hands.
>>42195138What humility!
>>42195398Coming soon to gaming and VR MMOs and other game types; the 7 "sacred" spirits (and Asteroth) of the "down" pointing pentagram, with sacred statues in temples made of alabaster with sunlight pouring through windows (and the moonlight at night time). With worshiping them as sacred daemon protectors and guides throughout the lands of.... wherever..... you heard it here first!>Basically America with Satanism and Freemasonry except using the "light"/Alabaster motiff instead of "black"/"darkness" motiff.
>>42190866>English MasonsWhat you expect them to be, and how people in this thread describe them. Similar to the Forever Knights from Ben 10 ironically enough.>American "Masons"A side project for the English masons to laugh at, they have no true power, ground or standing. The GTA games are made by English masons to mock and ridicule the american "masons" and their experimental country.
>>42190866Most of them are just small businessmen networking through charity events.You better believe they are colluding with your city council and state government to rig the rules in their favor.But they don’t have to sacrifice children to moloch to make it happen.But if you want real power and have the right bloodline, you can be initiated to more exclusive chapters. To prove your loyalty, you have to sacrifice your moral boundaries. That’s when shit gets dark.
>>42195021i'll check him out, and i'll mention that there are masons i too appreciate (if we are talking about podcasters, the occult of personality guy), but the discussion was about the rule, not the exceptions... the only places these were not inverted were the UK and the USA, yet from what I noticed in the past decade, even those places were corrupted (as I mentioned here >>42191987 )might have started out fine, but at this point is gambling, and joining them you are gambling with your soul
They are evil sorcerers their God is money Satan and sin
They’re an organization comprised of vetted soulsOr more accurately; an organization for vetting souls (ie weeding out literal soulless hivemind drones)Simply my suspicion
>>42196536probably in the 17th century bro, that ended once a secret handshake certified if you had a soul or not, instead of "using your soul" to establish thatI'm not saying that today it's only soulless people playing "you have soul, you don't have soul, you don't either, you have, you don't etc." but I am most certainly saying that they made it impossible for themselves to offer guarantees that it ain't be like thatas they say: the proof of the pudding is in eating it
>>42196588I’m inclined to agree,Rudderlessly losing their way.Still, I assume population today as a mixed bag rather than total lost cause.Consequences of having shot the sheriff
>>42196747>I assume population today as a mixed bag rather than total lost cause.hmm stalk first join later sounds interesting indeed
>>42192900This, pretty much. PR buffer zone, I don't get why people don't get that before blurting dumb shit like "That can't be true, mine was 4th degree stone faggot and he was chill all the time!". That's why they have 33 degrees, and you don't start sniffing the faintest smell of BS until the last 10 or so, the more exclusive, executive ones.
>>42198130So, if you make it to 33 degrees (even say like some of the silent generation grandfather's) it's a pretty good indication they had to do something unquestionably awful to someone? Or just regular gay stuff? Again I'm referring to several gerations ago where I'm hoping whatever "transgressions" that were required may have just been the taboo back then (just being gay) as opposed to now which God only knows.
Yes they are evil. They bring women and children into their lodges and rape them.
The freemasons are bad weirdos
>>42190866Cultural subversion. If you want an idea of who is behind degenerate media being pushed to young people.. these are the people responsible for it. They really are sodomite magicians. G = 7GAY = 33MAGIC = 33Just add the letters. They were also behind 9/11 and basically every psyop that ever happened since then. And yes they are gaslighting you. They think what they do is funny. What they're actually doing is corrupting your potential wives and making it impossible for you to live outside of the system.That's why they put Lady Liberty on a pedestal in New York City where they did 9/11.. It's symbolizes the enslavement of men and the empowerment of their divine goddess. The Divine feminine which is what they worship. It's why so many of them are trannies.They're pretty much everywhere in the country. Even in small town shitholes. They could be people on your city council, school boards, store owners, and more.Be on the lookout for green buildings. That's a pedo code.
>>42190914>>42190944>how would you know they're telling the truth?Ahem. >The Order of DeMolay is a premier international youth leadership organization for young men aged 12 to 21, founded in 1919 in Kansas City, Missouri, with deep roots in Freemasonry.And,>Jacques de Molay, the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar, was tried for heresy, idolatry, sodomy (homosexual acts), blasphemy, and fraudulent financial practicesReally doesn't take much to add up one and two together.
>>42199076>MAGDALENE MEANS TOWER>BUILDING G HAS SAME ALPHANUMERIC VALUE AS TWINS>G = 7>BUILDING 7 FREEFALL COLLAPSE WAS A NOD TO THE FREEMASONRYFEMINISM, BLM, HOMOSEXUALITY.. ALL CULTURALLY SUBVERSIVE CONTENT IS COMING FROM THEM.They are criminals and you retards have been helping them accomplish their goals this whole time. Way to go, Captain America.
buy a masonic bible and in the section titled "of special interest to masons" read the way they present the building of solomon's temple, you'll know for a fact that there are higher beings. that whole boy wedding thing should be suspicious enough to keep you out of any lodges though
>>42199076gay magic indeed
>>42190866>they.... you?
>>42190866They all believe in a creator and in duality… only thing that comes next is the destroyer… their own beliefs guarantee their own destruction… too be that stupid is not my problem.
>>42192701Downy eyes.
>>42192765Ironically enough, Cadillac is named after a Frenchman who lied and gaslit himself into nobility in the Americas. He's also one of the early liquor and lumber barons of the Great Lakes region. >>42199128You're very right, and going off of this concept it's important to talk about the imperial significance of the lodge system and how Masonry as we know it today is a creation of the British, specifically John Dee and Francis Bacon, as a mechanism for empire. Wherever British soldiers would go they would setup a lodge, it's an excellent way to coopt local populations. This created the "Good ol' boys" networks we see today from big cities to small Podunk towns. It appeals to basic tribal psychology, creating a covert in group. I personally think Bacon and Dee both saw how secret societies and mysteries functioned in antiquity and aped in to many of those currents with Masonry. The Gematria, astrological layout of lodge floors, and compartmentalized orders all harken back to Dee and Bacon. Shakespeare's Collected Works, a product of Bacon and the Invisible College, are steeped in Masonry. It very much is the creation myth of the British Empire, just like the Aeneid was for Rome by Virgil. It's not as old as they claim, but they call back to older orders that did the same thing. At their hearts it's a criminal gang not too dissimilar to the Cosa Nostra, with their own code of omerta. Even your average porch Mason has his loyalties to his lodge and brothers first and foremost, and will move in lockstep with what gets called, as you go up the chain and into weirder more insulated groups like the Royal Order of Jesters and Shriners the compromise and crimes deepen. >>42192048Epstein was allegedly a Royal Jester, and he discussed creating secret societies in the files a lot. He even has the twin pillars recreated in his study.
>>42190866>Are they genuinely evil or is that just low-iq christian conspiratard propaganda?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G77EE8bIXws
>>42199076>The Divine feminine which is what they worship. It's why so many of them are trannies.>They're pretty much everywhere in the country. Even in small town shitholes. They could be people on your city council, school boards, store owners, and more.>Be on the lookout for green buildings. That's a pedo code.Not the Divine Feminine, the Qlippothic FeminineSathariel - SaturnA'arab Zaraq - VenusLilith - LunaThe Triple Goddess
>>42190944>The king of France and the Catholic church destroyed their order, once news began to spread that they worship the Baphometh and practice homosexuality.>They got multiple confessions out of them and it is true, then raided all of their commanderiesActually the Vatican recognised their innocence but the king of France was hellbent on framing them in order to wipe all his debts clean.
>>42191468>The King of France noticed money scheme of the knights Templar, he saw how they extract wealth from France and redirect it to foreign private hands>they Knights were bleeding dry the nation and destroying the economy, on top of being heretic gnostics who kill and horde money in the name of God, which is hypocritical in itselfThis is absolute nonsense. The Templars made their wealth righteously through holy war against the Arabs. Being a French military order they had to lend to the king who was spending and wasting money like crazy. The king was so far in debt that he and his advisors schemed to defame and denounce the Templars in order to wipe the debt that they could never pay back. The Vatican has records of what actually happened. Pope Clement V was forced to dissolve the Templars under pressure from the King, and he also absolved them of any heresies, but the King also forced the Vatican to suppress the order that the Templars were not heretics.
>>42198130It still means nothing. Nothing "out of the ordinary" happens in the main organisation of the Masons. It's only in the offshoot orders where that kind of stuff happens.
>>42201452>>42201482ThisFreemasons have zero real connections to le Templars, that's a Prottie mythIn reality it's just jewish, as in a lot of 33rd degrees straight up have said it was a jewish organization with a ton of shabbos goys doing the work for him. It got filled with people who hated Christianity and wanted it dead so they could do whatever they wanted with zero repercussions. It's also notably satanic (they worship Lucifer, Moloch and other demons) and they're related to other vile cults like Crowley's thelema.
They are criminals but with high iq the Freemasons are an order of vampires
>>42200298i noticed it too... if anybody brings up freemasons (almost exclusively in a negative light), it's guaranteed that person is a freemasonseems like their favorite drug came to be intimidation
>>42191772>They're the reason for wars, race wars, feminism, all the -isms and the -phobias, the pedo elites, the wokeness, the fake virus with the real mark of the beast vaccine, the corruption of the judiciaryit's not called the jewdicial system for nothing. Reflection is better than deflection, look at yourself in the mirror and ask>who am I fooling?
>>42190866They are evil but they have a ton of retards working the lower levels.They also elevate a few retards to the highest degrees to throw people off.That said they're reaching end game and are starting to get flooded with retards and it is killing them.
>>42190944Why would they back the American revolution and then communism as an ideology? And if they backed communism as an ideology, but control America, why did they have America shut down every attempt at a communist state? I suppose you could say it was to fuel endless wars generating an endless flow of revenue, but I feel like it doesn’t add up, especially now that communism is largely dead.
>>42190866Founded with good intentions, it probably still has mostly okay people as membersBUT as humans under state-capitalism do, they use the secrecy to do all manner of evil.Not all 33rd degree Masons share their secrets with each other. Some are in permanent positions in the CIA, Mossad, MI6, and they don't tell their fellow 33rd guy Randall Carlson what they're doing.The systems are evil and corrupt the people in power.
>>42202891Cause you dont really control everything unless you control Everything. You control the thesis, the antithesis, the synthesis. These are extremely smart people. They know if they do X then there will be abc kind of different repercussions and impulses in the population, so they control all of those. They control all the different possibilities and how those possibilities interact.
>>42202891If I have to be specific, communism is exclusively an American invention, even if you ignore freemasonry as a whole.Wallstreet financed the bolshevik revolution in order to assassinate the romanov dynasty and to steal their international capital.The Romanovs had billions of assets in foreign banks, once they were dead, the banks themselves took possession of their money.The bolsheviks also paved a way for western investments in the region.The whole Soviet Army also ran on American lend lease. 80% of their equipment and war rations were manufactured in America.If you think that American patriotism and Soviet communism are antagonistic, then you don't know history. You are gay faggots for each other as it gets, with freemasonic jews as your forefathers.
>>42201452>>42201482Masonic claws typed this.Your narrative is that the king of Frence is LE BAD, while the templars didn't do anything wrong, which is hilarious.Feel free to ignore the fact that the templars owned half of the land in France and that they took that wealth and revenue and transported into private hands.It's a bullshit lie that they made money through "holy war with the arabs" They made money through banking and through their estates.Then they laundered that money by saying that they are for the "war", when in actually the knights Templar were the most useless order in the middle east. They lost every battle they were in, they also lost the holy land and failed to retake it.Of course the Pope was seething when they were found out as heretics, after all be partook in the money scheme and wanted to weaken the European kingdoms and to redirect power to himself, but the king of France cornered him with the claims of heresy and tied his hands.Only the king of France was in the right.
>>42202711The issue isn't the Jew or Muslin or Christ cucks, the issue is the retards at the lowest lovel of each tradition that take everything literaly, they are the issue of the world. The elite are scamers that manipulate those sheep / retards / NPC.
>>42190866You can spend about 20 years and find out for yourself
>>42190866There are lots of different branches. Some are groups of local small business owners. I was just watching one about a banker that actually worked WITH the catholic church.
>>42205230>I was just watching one about a banker that actually worked WITH the catholic church.
>>42205230>>42205349Lmao to people who genuinely think catholics can be masonsFreemasonry is condemned by the Church since centuries ago, if you read you'd knowThat banker of yours probably isn't telling them anything, and Jesuits are demonstrably not related. But anything to blame le Catholics instead of the people behind it
>>42205702Jesuits are worse than freemasons. I'm from a protestant country so i side with freemasons. It's not even a question. Jesuits have to be defeated.
>>42205715You know, I'm aware this is bait but the sad thing is there are tons of people who genuinely believe this shit and it's depressing. Then again Protestantism is built upon thinking you're special for hating Catholics so it makes sense they love getting raped in the ass by kikes and masons
