Happy new yea…April fools day!
So what's the play for moon landing deniers now? They obviously have to claim this one is fake too, in order to stay consistent.I guess the date and camera quality and launch date will be enough "evidence" for that?
>>42191766https://youtu.be/-f_DPrSEOEo?si=H27YHOyu8u_RD78N
>>42191766Thinking about it, this is the climax of humanity. The moon has always been looming over us every night for as long as we have been around, we have longed to reach it but it may as well have been a untouchable deity. When we touched it, we fulfilled the desires of countless humans throughout the ages, we breached the sky and left our very world to walk on a divine symbolWhat else is there? All the other planets are just moon landings 2.0. I guess immortality or Godhood is more prestigious but theres pretty much no chance of achieving either. Its all downhill from here
>>42191766>nice fake photo
Does anyone have the meme with the fake quote from some NASA guy saying "With the invention of full HD television returning to the moon was going to be hard, but with 4K cameras it's now impossible"
>>42192278Not every potential landing would be on a desolate cheese field.This also omits the idea of a higher power or being visiting here as well.
>>42191936I’m on the fence about the moon landing. It could easily be proven, if they had anything to show for it.The fact that they didn’t find anything up there that we can’t find on earth is sus.Just ordinary rocks, with no unique properties, to prove it came from off planet.They’re not even landing this time.It’s just a fly by.
>>42194872Anything can be possible and denied, it's a studio, the astronauts were underwater, etc.
>>42195169It’s definitely not underwater.Look at the dust kick up.Does look like some funky wire work though.
>>42191766>>42191936
>>42194872>The fact that they didn’t find anything up there that we can’t find on earth is susThey did, there's lots of rock samples that countless independent geologists looked at and and confirmed that those rocks in fact could not have formed on earth.If you point this out to moon landing deniers they'll either say that all the geologists (including ones from other countries) are in on it or point out how there is one single instance of a museum mixing up a moon rock with an earth rock because somehow that means all the others are fake too or something.You can't win, really, they're too dead set wanting the moon landing to be fake and can't really be reasoned with, unfortunately.>They’re not even landing this time.I mean neither did Apollo for 10 missions.Comparing Artemis to Apollo is very misleading too, because the latter was just meant to put some guys on the moon at all costs to collect samples for a day. While the former aims to establish a permanent or semi permanent orbital station and research base in the long term.>>42195656That's exactly my point. The fact that they're flying through them now proves what people have been telling moon landing deniers for years: that the VA belts aren't the magical death fields they would like them to be.So because changing your mind is very difficult, deniers have to keep staying in denial and say that this one is fake aswell for whatever reason.
Its my favorite Stanley Kubrick film
>>42191766>tonear*
>>42196470Exactly this
>>42196337Van Allen himself classified them as deadly
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>>42191936>had to wait till AI was invented until they staged another moon landingVery convenient, CIA!
>>42200622>>42200631Notice how he's talking about the inner zone? That's not where they flew through.A lethal dose is about 400-500 rad, they went through a thinner area of the belt and it took them about an hour. If you do the math it results it results in them receiving less than 1 rad on the way through.I'm sorry but moon landing denial is just fundamentally unserious, as soon as you just dig slightly below the surface. Literally the only thing you can do is cover your ears and call it fake, as shown by >>42200864
>>42201686This what anyone n is talking about.
>>42201739Exactly, they are clearly avoiding the most dense part and hence only got exposed to a fraction of the deadly 400-500 rad
>>42201686>>42201747if they actually went through they wouldn't need to be faking earth pics like >>42200303
>>42201772And what makes you think it's fake?If you can claim it's fake without evidence, that claim can be easily dismissed without evidence.
>>42201686And in the same article he mentions the outer zone having a radiation level several times higher
>>42201739>>42201747Apollo 14 went through the heart of the Van Allen beltshttps://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/Documents/a14_mission-report.pdf
>>42202232>>42202269And then you have the Orion: Trial by Fire video NASA posted to Youtube in 2014, were they classified the Van Allen belts as an area of dangerous radiation and how those challenges have to be solved before they send people through that region of spaceMinute 3:05https://youtu.be/KyZqSWWKmHQ
>>42191936Theyre not landing on the moon dipshit
>>42202269Okay and just above the part you cropped it says>The final readings from the personal radiation dosimeters yielded net integrated (uncorrected)values of 640 and 630 millirads for the Commander and the Command Module Pilot, respectively. No value can be determined for the Lunar Module Pilot. The total radiation dose for each crewman was approximately 1.15 rads to the skin and 0.6 rad at a 5-centimeter tissue depth. These doses are the largest observed on any Apollo mission; however, they are well below the threshold of detectable medical effects.This is nowhere near the 400-500 rad that would be fatal, so I don't see where the issue is.>>42202308I love this one, because if you actually watch the video, he is clearly talking about the radiation being dangerous to the instrumentation. Since modern microelectronics are a lot more complex than what Apollo had in the 60s they are more susceptible to radiation.He says it verbatim at the very timestamp you posted "radiation like this can harm the guidance system, onboard computers and other electronics on Orion. And to anyone who doesn't filter this information through wishful thinking of what they would like to hear it's obvious he talks having to solve the challenge of vital electronics being exposed to radiation, before they can send people through this region of space who would rely on those electronics to survive.So called truth seekers are hilarious, I swear.>>42202321I know, but a staple of moon landing denial is that even leaving LEO is impossible. And as you can see in this thread they are in full force to defend their precious world view, because changing your mind is scary.
>>42202341What NASA measures can't be trusted, after all they """""""lost""""""" the telemetry tapes. You conveniently ignore >>42202232Also:>they are in full force to defend their precious world view, because changing your mind is scary.Holy projection
>>42202575>What NASA measures can't be trustedSee? This is what I mean, all you have left is denying that anything can be trusted or anything is real. Which is a silly worldview, because if you say the NASA measurements are wrong because you don't want to trust them, why do you instead trust whoever told you that the real measurements would be higher?>Holy projectionNot really, mostly just talking from experience. I used to be convinced that the landings were fake until actually looking at the so called evidence deniers present critically and realizing how it doesn't stand up to any amount of scrutiny
>>42191936It's more likely to be false than true.
>>42202605NASA lost the telemetry tapes of the most important event in the history of mankind, they rewrote other tapes. How can they be trusted after that?
>>42202616why?>>42202627From what I recall they lost the backups of some shit at some point after the program, but I can't be fucked to google that for you, because it's irrelevant to the point.There is a report from after the mission where it says black on white that the astronauts received orders of magnitude less radiation dose than what people are baselessly claiming. These numbers align more or less with the numbers you'd expect if you just calculate it yourself.But because you don't like it, you just say it's wrong and can't be trusted. At that point we're already so deep in fantasy land, it's kinda pointless to have a good faith discussion about anything, I might aswell claim the moon is made out of cheese
>>42202679>because it's irrelevant to the point.How convenient
Ultimately the radiation concern discussed is only a small part. The whole Apollo program was plagged by issues from beginning to end.Just reading the Phillips Report listing the amount of quite frankly retarded problems that happened during the Apollo program should cast a huge shadow of doubt on the entire thing, and then Thomas Baron made his own report only to be fired from North American after it was leaked, then died mysteriously along with his wife and stepdaughter only 6 days after his testimony. He not only confirmed that the problems Phillips mentioned before, but confirmed that the problems had worsened, and thay was only 2 years before Apollo 11. His full report has never been released, only a 59 page version.American Moon (2017) lists a lot of additional issues https://youtu.be/KpuKu3F0BvY
