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Christianity and all Eternal Torture as Hell punishment religions and belief systems seem beyond demonic to me in level of evil. They made God look like the most brutal tyrant in eternity. I don't care what sins people do, I think short-long term punishments that are not eternal are probably what God does until souls behave right if God is actually fair.

The level of pain inflicted by Eternal Torture is millions upon millions of years of constant pain from fire. It's not a just level of pain to give out to anyone. Especially if God is all powerful and can imprison people with out cellmates instead so they can't corrupt the Universe.

Then there's the weird amount of submissiveness to authority figures and government in Christianity.

It seems possible to me Christianity is just demons or fallen angels or fallen gods tricking people into obeying human authority figures after literally just saying common sense good and evil
>dont murder
>dont steal
>dont commit adultry
Yeah no shit anyone can figure those rules out. Obviously, God hates murdering, stealing and adultery if God is good.

Are there any religions that say Jesus and yahweh are evil?

A ruler/king who tells you common sense rules but the punishes you in lava for millions of years for not believing them and/or not obeying them enough is evil.

I'm going by what humans call good using logic. Kindness, mercy, and caring. Not by what an ancient book says is good because a text defined it for them.


The Christian religion says people are filled with the holy spirit. It would be utterly disgusting to have a male deity inside me as a male. I don't want a male deities dick lining up with my dick as it inhabits me, and I don't want their tongue near my tongue or hands and feet near my hands and feet because I'm not bisexual or gay. I've felt what it feels like to have a male spirit inside me, it's disgusting, made me try to commit suicide many times and I dont care if its God, no men in me in any way.
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Native americans saw them as demons. The ones that truly HATED what they represented were withered down by disease, conflict and settler expansion, all in the name of a foreign god. Eventually the complacent and tired were simply absorbed.
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>>42192640
>Are there any religions that say Jesus and yahweh are evil?
christianity isnt quite jesus-ism as it is pharisee-ism
their payback for overturning the tables of the money changers was to steal and corrupt his legacy and turn it into a glass ceiling for all followers and tell them stupid and insane things like humans cant cultivate spiritual potential and if you do you're in league with le debil
yhvh has one of the longest most documented histories of blood sacrifice
but christians dont understand that yhvh the jewish blood egregore isnt really their friend, it is a magick lodge protectorate of a group that hates them
the Goetia consider yhvh the demon egregore and the baal tier entity that helped abraham spawn it to be recent upstarts on the universal stage
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>>42192640
>Religions that consider Yahweh Jesus and The Holy Spirit beyond demonic/evil?
doesn't satanism do that? I don't really know but I assume it does since it's all about the so called fallen angel satan and basically an inversion of christianity.
Additionally I've heard a few gurus or spiritual new agers suggest that jesus may not have been as good as we think he was but they don't elaborate, it's impossible to prove either way so I don't care much for it, but it does make sense to me that he had an undocumented "dark side" because ying and yang and all that.
>The Christian religion says people are filled with the holy spirit. It would be utterly disgusting to have a male deity inside me as a male. I don't want a male deities dick lining up with my dick as it inhabits me, and I don't want their tongue near my tongue or hands and feet near my hands and feet because I'm not bisexual or gay. I've felt what it feels like to have a male spirit inside me, it's disgusting, made me try to commit suicide many times and I dont care if its God, no men in me in any way.
that's some weird shit you wrote there m8, idk what are you on, but that whole holy spirit mumbo jumbo was probably meant as a metaphor, as it happens with many religious texts, many things were meant as metaphor and taken literally by hylics over time and corrupted into nonsensical wordsalads that pseuds think they understand, back to the point, the "spirit in you" is just your astral form, which is basically the you that you are when you are dreaming. That form is asleep during waking life but spiritual practitioners supposedly awaken that form in the awaken daytime and thus join both forms together. Both forms are you, so no need to be all weird like "I got someone else inside me" and shit like you thought it was lmao
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>>42192640
Most dogma is the result of people making shit up so their religion sounds more impressive than the other guy's.
>my god, he's 200 years old and can float in the sky
>um actually my god is infinity years old and created the sky sooo
>well other gods than mine are actually fake and if you don't believe he is the only god he will put you into a fire for a million years
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>>42192705
>and basically an inversion of christianity.
purposeful
and satan isnt even an actual entity, just a meme moniker meaning adversary
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If hell doesn’t seem fair to you, you don’t know how evil your sin is and how good God is. If it makes you feel better, if anyone in hell genuinely repented, he would be saved instantly. But no one in hell wants to be saved—just as they did during life, they choose separation from God no matter the price. They would rather burn forever than be with God.

Look, a five-minute google search could find you Christian sources explaining this far better than I can, so I don’t know why you even made this thread. But take comfort in the fact that hell is justified and if you don’t want to go there, you don’t have to.
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>>42192709
Not even the most radical atheists claim that the development of religion worked this way. This is something you genuinely just made up based on a redditor’s understanding of history.
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>>42192640
Your view that having the Holy Spirit inside of you must mean feeling a penis or being raped or whatever is really bizarre, and the fact that this totally made-up thought has depressed you to the point of suicide is really concerning. People overuse this on this board, but you should genuinely get help. This thought is abnormal, harmful, and untrue.
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>>42192640
It's called gnosticism. Look it up. Though it does say jesus was the good guy which explains why he is so different than YHVH BUT gnostic jesus does not want your servitude and simply wants you to seek freedom from YHVH.

>>42195269
What a fucking moronic take. If a human was tortured now they would do anything the person doing it does to them If you raped and tortured you would listen. But according to you a human being in eternal torment loves it. And of course god made them that way too. And you must be right cause the great jewish book written by foreskin loving pedophiles must be true right shabbos goy?
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>>42192640
The Norse Gods are aware of how evil the Canaanites cults are and as you might imagine if you know some history have a personal bone to pick as well. They are always looking for new allies.
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>>42195406
>gnosticism
Gnosticism is retarded and it still makes the supreme god, the monad or whatever you wanna call it, ultimately responsible for all suffering
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>>42195488
If you think the Monad and YHVH are the same you do not understand gnostic thought. The Monad is an idea more than just a god. The essence of life itself. It was ripped apart by YHVH. You would know that if you read gnostic texts. Modern day gnostics however have corrupted it to be just like YHVH or claim they are the same.
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>>42195274
>Not even the most radical atheists claim that the development of religion worked this way.
So what, I'm a prophet of Aphrodite, and we agree that mythology is a mess, and the Abrahamic religions are the worst because they're intentional psyops.
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>>42195274
That is exactly how things like Athena being Zeus's daughter and Vishnu suddenly being the Lord of all the other gods developed.
>have central God
>get dominated
>other culture has central God
>my central God is now peripheral to theirs
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>>42195274
>>42195629
When Christcucks defend their God's supposed omnipotence it really does come off like a kid saying "infinity plus one". Omnipotence doesn't really make sense philosophically or even biblically (the being described in the Bible seems to have some limits), but I think they stick to it even though it doesn't make sense because it is a major part of their brand. The purpose of this brand is just to say their God is more powerful than Pagan Gods.
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>>42195882
>Omnipotence doesn't really make sense philosophically or even biblically
1 - The Bible is wrong
2 - philosophy is limited to the ability of the human mind. It becomes internally inconsistent to say omnipotence must be limited to what makes sense to human minds
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>>42195979
What I think of Everytime someone says God is beyond mortal comprehension.



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