Would you be willing to save a person you absolutely hate if it gave the innocent around them a chance for redemption, those caught in the crossfire under the same banner but imbue pure ideals. Even if you factually knew they wouldn’t do the same for you out of fear?
>>42207142Do you honestly care?
>>42207142Yes. It would fucking suck as I'd much rather see someone I absolutely hate be destroyed, however, if I knew there would be a greater benefit of good introduced into the world by sparing someone I despise, even if those under them wouldn't do the same for me, I would still choose to save the person I hate, in order to secure a better tomorrow.
>>42207169Of course. In the scuffle there’s hero’s inbetween who deserve that recognition, it’s a different rope to walk>>42207192I understand, nobody will know you made this choice but if you truly mean what you say I’ll fight for that choice. Things will work out for those who deserve it, miracles can’t be forced but you can be a catalyst to one in another persons life.
>>42207142Why do you hate them?
>>42207328Morals are subjective, but the credibility of those morals can be measured and verified
>>42207445>morals are subjectiveMayhaps this is why you're failing. Either way. He is brutally effective at what he does.
>>42207465Mayhaps indeed, you can’t save everyone, sometimes the message isn’t for the person who initially hears it.
>>42207142https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zjc1AFpqIw0&pp=0gcJCdkKAYcqIYzv&ra=m
>>42207465Morality is subjective only because what is truly desired by the 'moral person' is not fully defined.Additionally, some may seek freedom for all, others, pleasure, others still, a lack of suffering and granfed fullfillment.Reality itself is irrational and merely takes rational forms as a means of communication. So to, does the irrational soul often bent by chances choose in a personal, 'subjective' manner.Brutal effectiveness spawns from seeing what others refuse to and exploiting that weakness. The enemy defeats themselves. Eventually this leads to advantages ofhers cannot overpower. Hacks cannot apply if this victory is achieved via careful planning and full understanding of precisely what is being done and its consquences. This requires an undertsanding and intergration of the self, including the aspects that are 'evil', as self indulgence is required to be an individual.As such, morality, ironically, can be a source of both tyranny and vice, and selfishness, a cleansing flame.Questions?>>42207503The door for communication is always open, one should never seek to burn the bridges to the hearts of those who still have a beating pulse.
>>42207625Don’t rule out obfuscated information too quickly, information could come in pieces, that midrash of conversation is the essence of epiphany.
>>42207625>As such, morality, ironically, can be a source of both tyranny and vice, and selfishness, a cleansing flame.Only because your framework is subjective. Morality is a simple concept. It is firstly absolute. It is secondly, an objectice, it is lastly, to be bargained with.There was a saying in the Soviet Union."Only the rich can afford morals."This is because they firstly invested in them and the blessings came after that.That's what others fail to see. They can't exist outside of the paradigm of us and them.Regardless. This is going to end in the only way I know how.Overwhelming violence.:)
>>42207668Perhaps what is sought is not opinions but engagment, such that wisdom may bloom. Even so, the wish is not to merely present, but to invite a mutual organic interaction.Wisdom is not found in machines.>>42207673Go on then, present an objective moral objective and defend it against those who would seek different outcomes and worldviews for themselves. The best one can do is allow for freedom, and yet, not everyone seeks freedom. Make your claim, and make it clear.
Gen x taught you well, pass it to the zoomers and I’ll truly be impressed
>>42207711I already have. You are not the person I obligate to.
>>42207979Hah! Chicken! BAWK BAWK BBAAAAWWWK!
>>42207995Told you I'd make you bawk like one.:)
>>42208091Maybe someone else, but not me.
