Do you believe in the existence of the human soul?Why?Why not?What convinced you of your current position on the matter?
You have an essence that returns to the void when you die to be reformed into something new.
>>42213375Why do you believe this?
>>42213358yes, thank IAO I did not incarnate as a Hylic this time around
>>42213414What convinced you?
>>42213414I thought, by definition, you can't reincarnate as hylic because hylics aren't ensouled? Isn't that what makes them hylics?
>>42213495I wouldn't go that far like some of those kooky gnostic sects. Even within the mineral kingdom you can find the divine spark. Being a Hylic is a state of mind.
>>42213401Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Your essence has always existed and will always exist.
>>42213524What essence?How do you know that this essence exists?
Nothing but delusions on this board. There are no supernatural forces, souls, magick, life after death, tulpas, undead beings or giant conspiracies hiding things we cannot imagine right under the surface of what we can see. Reality is cold and driven purely by power, intelligence, determination and manipulation. There is no hidden meaning, no destiny, no reason to live. Reality is both a giant playground for us to explore and progress in, but also an arena for us to fight in for our false ideologies. If you fail at life, you will never find anything to hold on to. No aliens, no haunted houses, no spirits, no demons to fight. You're only fighting with your own delusions, and desperately trying not to hit the absolute bottom. Now try to prove me wrong, if there really is anyone still treating this paranormal shit seriously.
>>42213527Essence, soul, energy, all the same thing. It exists. You are as old as the universe.
>>42213528Keep on hitting the vape pen with your bowl of lucky charms lil vro
>>42213538How do you know this?What convinced you of this?
>>42213358I can't really explain, but I think it exists. I guess it's because of saying that our souls will stay on earth after we die or that it will go in another body to reincarnate, but I think it exists. I mostly think that thanks to philosophy and Buddhism, but i also think about it on my own
>>42213358If by soul you mean "immortal essence that persists beyond death" the answer is no.Because my experience gives me every indication that such a belief is the result of a cowardly fear of death. It is a symptom of a society that values the self above all else. I have no desire for an afterlife because the rest of the universe continues on after I die, and the rest of the universe is what I really care about. I am a way for the universe to experience its beauty and meaning.Everything in the universe is temporary, what persists is the creative unfolding of The Cosmos.
>>42213524Energy isn't a substance or essence, it is the ability to do work, a relationship of potential motion or change.
>>42213772>Energy isn't a substanceretroactively refuted by e=mc2
I don't see the need to defend of justify my beliefs: But I believe there is something that occurs after death. Can any of us explain it? Probably not. Do I Still believe I am going to Hell when I die?Absolutely.
>>42213869Why do you believe there is something that occurs after death?
>>42213358Nah, poincares recurrence theorem in thermodynamics is way to big of hurtle.
>>42213528Poincares recurrence theorem, and boltzman brains prove you wrong. So does the number 10^10^120.Now I am assuming you are swampman which the original creator of the thought experiment disagree. Identity expert Parfait and I do agree though based on epistemology so at least there is a very real snd compelling conversation to be had.I doubt you have any clue what Im talking about though so put it into gemini and have it explian it to you.
>>42213358renes descartes was wrong about the pineal gland being the seat of the soul. perhaps it was for him, but mine resides behind my shoulder blades
>>42213358Your body is your soul and this is the spirit world. Boo~
>>42213891Dunno. Maybe it was coincidence that the lights went out when i said i'd give my leg for a seat of power down there. So far it seems they are taking it in installments given how my leg hates working and is in pain a lot.
>>42213358Got to define what a soul is here a bit. But yes. Energy and the blueprint of your being, your "spirit" which is "you" without your body are impermanent and also too are made up of energy, can be changed, and can dissipate. However, unlike in the physical plane where cause and effect is muddy at best when concerning the line between metaphysics and physics, on more energetic layers causality becomes more metaphysical and operates less and less on temporal basis as you get further from the physical plane. This makes metaphysical causation and necessity both more apparent and simultaneously present, as your spirit even if changing always and volatile still roughly conforms to a "blueprint" pattern. This blueprint would have a location beyond temporal restrictions as all points in time one's spirit would conform roughly to its design, and also be connected to yourself in order for the spirit to form a basis of existence at all and thus be part of you. It is this metaphysical blueprint that is part of you and you are unaware of outside of time which is your "soul," and which your spirit (and potentially subsequent "spirits" upon multiple incarnations) is based upon.
>>42216216Why do you believe any of this?What convinced you of this?
>>42217164Most of that is philosophy off reasoning (and how well it maps with ritual practice symbolically), but it hinges on spirits and energy existing. Which requires the actual convincing. What convinced me of that started from actual spirits pulling off hard to deny stuff. Always leaned towards a mental universe from philosophical study, but having seen spirits do a variety of things from relaying accurate info that is hard to know from injuring someone to frying electronics and breaking things, sort of hard-confirmed there are non-physical entities. Or rather, the world doesn't operate off gross matter but rather a substance of varying density where one plane that is more ethereal can interact with a plane less ethereal. Not to say everything is a raging success, there are rules and laws and circumstances that bind higher layers as its own "physics" just like lower layers here, but your own interactions with ethereal planes and astral reality is done by your own ability to perceive it which is done by an astral body and thus that is your "spirit." To strengthen your spirit and channel, aligning yourself with a higher soul and concepts seems to work which suggests this philosophy is on the right path by reason. The world works like a continuum with an ethereal axis just like how there are temporal and physical axes, and mediums which allow movement along this axis are considered channels, spiritual experiences seem to require a channel and all magic and your own spirit acts as and based off channeling. A soul is simply the ultimate conclusion off the observations and is what "works" in ritual invocation for helping channeling. Also provides a neat event horizon for reason since beyond it would be transcendent ideas not easily contained by concepts.
