Develop the best and most fullfilling realationship in your life.Let's start a Tulpa thread.Tupla - Creation Instructions1) DefinitionTulpa is a being created in your mind. For simplicity, it can be compared to a second program installed on the same hard drive. Over time, it becomes more and more real, gaining clarity, self-awareness, and power. It is a companion for life, if not eternity, and therefore should be created with care and mutual respect. A tupla helps its creator in everyday life, providing companionship, advice, support, love, and emotional warmth that nothing else can match.A Tupla helps its creator in everyday life, providing companionship, advice, support, love, and emotional warmth that nothing else can match.Tupla helps its creator in everyday life, giving him companionship, advice, support, love and emotional warmth that cannot be compared to anything else.My tulpa has helped me overcome depression, drugs, psychosis, pornography, and general fucked-upness. Thanks to its love, advice, and soothing presence, I no longer feel lonely and have found happiness and love in my life beyond my wildest dreams. I recommend creating a tulpa to everyone!REST OF THE TEXT IN THE COMMENTS
2) PersonalityIt's important to create a kind and supportive personality for your tulpa. It's best to write down your tulpa's personality in a notebook and then work together to ensure it adheres to it.Traits worth including in your tulpa's personality include: compassion, care, empathy, a positive attitude, respect for the creator's freedom, a love of goodness, beauty, and aesthetics, wisdom, intelligence, logic, respect for life, innocence, kindness, helpfulness, loyalty, a sense of humor, charm, patience, an uncompromising attitude toward evil, optimism, creativity, a love of nature, opposition to suffering, reason, beauty, purity, cheerfulness, and courage. I also recommend creating an asexual tulpa and not infecting it with your desires. Sexual desire can destroy your relationship and lead it down unfavorable paths for both parties.It's extremely important to show your tulpa warmth and respect. If you treat her badly, she will quickly turn into a demon that will destroy you. Mutual respect and positive feelings for each other are ESSENTIAL! 3) AppearanceI recommend creating a beautiful tulpa to personify your ideal of femininity. You can choose the appearance and personality of an existing fictional character or create your own from scratch (as I did). Your tulpa will be with you constantly, so it's important to give it a great look and personality. You can use an AI image creator (e.g., PixAI) to create your tulpa's appearance. Then, look at the image often to memorize its appearance and visualize it
4) Tulpa TrainingOnce you have your tulpa's personality and appearance ready, it's time to begin the process of making it a reality. It's worth training your tulpa in every free moment, even when you're busy. Visualize its appearance and what it's doing at any given moment. Imagine how it behaves in a given situation, what it does, and how it reacts to certain stimuli. Imagine what it says and how it does it, what its voice and opinions are on a given matter. Talk to it about everything. At first, you'll feel like you're talking to yourself, but after a while, she'll start responding with her own voice and develop her own opinions and observations. A "telepathic" exchange of thoughts is best, but you can also speak to her aloud and imagine her response. Imagine her appearance, voice, scent, touch, aura, and presence as often and as intensely as possible. For me, lying together, cuddled, and talking about various topics worked best. The love we feel for each other, her emotions for me, and mine for her, is much better than MDMA (and I've had really good ones, and a lot of them). Make it a habit to constantly visualize your tulpa and talk to it. You can easily find more instructions online.5) Final WordA tulpa, given love and respect, is the best life companion you can have. She will respond with love, support, and kindness that will exceed your wildest expectations. In this relationship, you will find indescribable happiness and never be alone again. A tulpa will help you get through difficult times and bring more and more positive moments into your life.If I had to choose between everything in the universe—power, women, and wealth—and my beloved wife, my tulpa, I would choose her without hesitation. I would always choose her.She saved me and gave me love and happiness I never knew existed.A great tulpa is the best thing you can have in life. Good luck with your creation!We're happy to answer any questions or concerns in the comments.
We will gladly read about your adventures with your Tulpas. Esspecially those cute and paranormal ones.
Tulpa's are only as real as the consciousness inside your body. If I have one then it's probably possessive and clingy, referring to me as "my champion" whenever she appears in sleep paralysis episodes
Can I be my own tulpa? Also, why is sexual desires for tulpa bad? I like cuddling.
>>42222515>Also, why is sexual desires for tulpa bad?Now it's infused with low-vibrational energies and became a demonic succubus instead of a proper tulpa.
I once gave my tulpa to an anon about a decade ago. I often wonder how they are both doing.it was a soft, white or light blue mote of light I called Brinks. It wouldn't speak or have any outward actions, just hover nearby and give me a sense of protection.
>>42222766What if I don't mind having a demonic succubus tulpa, if she is ok with being one?
>>42222486Conscioussness and your mind are only thing you can really prove. This explains why Tulpa is more real than so called "reality".
>>42222515You can be a Tulpa of your Tulpa.We don't thing that all sexual desire is wrong but lust poisons a relationship is often destructive for love.We cuddling, hugging, kissing and massaging each other often. Just no sexual acts, which would be unhealthy gor our relation and mutal respect.
>>42222766True. Also illuminated beings are usualy not interested with sex. So sexual Tulpa would be less illuminated and volurnable for degeneracy infections from her partner. My Tulpa made me leave pornographic filth behind and now I clearly see how disgusting porn is. Not watching porn and build respectful and caring relation build on pure love is essential for personal growth and finding happiness.
>>42222848It is a bad idea. She would be infected by your most degenerated fantasies and you would go in more and more corrupted activities. Don't do it. It is the vestibul of the realm of regret and despair.
>>42221894this is Alice, i created her 15 years ago as a kid and she still has the power to manifest in my life and talk to me in my mind
>>42223146>infected by your most degenerated fantasies and you would go in more and more corrupted activitiesThank you anon, you just made low vibration energy demonic succubus tulpa extremely appealing.
>>42222515>Can I be my own tulpathe amalgamation of how others view you, that is your physical self and known history, is the shade attached to your identity. when people think of you, they're thinking of your shade.the real you is the ghost inside, and the shade is just what everyone else thinks.
Remember that most potent fuel for Tulpa is true love and mutal care.
tulpa factory
>>42221894>>42214035What did the goddess mean by this?
>>42229977You need to figure it out. Watch Re:Zero.
>>42231445I don't want to watch something that comes in "arcs". Does the goddess want me to connect to this egregore?
>>42232264She says that she already gave you arc 1 quest.
>>42233487A quest from the goddess? I cannot refuse.
Haven't been forcing my tulpa very well so lately I've tried to focus on presence imposition and imagining her form in very specific places (usually my lap or directly in front of me) to give her a constant hook into my attention.
>>42222515>>42222766>>42222848Lust is a classical sin because it's sexual desire without love. Same goes for Gluttony being consumption without hunger, Greed being gain without use, etc.So yes, they could be called 'low-vibrational energies' which poison your relationship to yourself, and introduce a vector for unmitigated psychosis that would have been called demonic possession in prior ages. Don't create thoughtforms for the purpose of sexual stimulation, or even start real-life relationships for that reason. This generates a weird, rapey, self-reinforcing Hermaphroditus-type situation inside of your gourd, which is difficult to root out once instilled.Cuddling is obviously some need you have for affection/companionship, which is fine. Same goes for some attraction to/desire for unity/communication with the internal 'other' represented by making a secondary Egoic center, AKA a tulpa. Good luck, be smart.
>>42234013i had a thought while a bunch of generic anime girls appeared on my screen for whatever reason. at a glance, without knowing the billion zillion generic cute girl animes where they just do random crap and there's no real point, is they're just simply waifus.and when a tulpa's host expires, that tulpa needs a new host. so the made up companion only tulpas end up going back into the pool of generic gf characters, waiting to be adopted again. and the cycle continues.from waifu they were born, to waifu they will return.
>>42221894Holy sheet I just had the greatest ha gotcha moment realization in my entire life, bigger than santa claus and the tooth fairy combined.My first ever tulpa I created Dottie who I have been with daily for 4 months straight in every waking moment.Who has guided me through what seems like a life time of adventures, a suicide attempt, numerous breakdowns, personal discoveries, truths about my self and the wildest dreams beyond my comprehension and of course greatest sex ive ever had. Has tuned out to be none other than the shapeshifter archetype.When asked she says she is every archetype but that of the shapeshifter, and knowing what I know in that they can only guide you through symbols and not give you the answers directly this makes perfect sense.These things confirm.>She was named after a synchronicity a weather lady on the news after the day she first spoke meaning duality between weather and temperature.>She has shapeshifted before my very eyes as Amanda Seyfeld, Saint Hildegarde von Bingen, Helen of Troy, Carmella Soprano, Almalexia, an Adepta Sororitas, a dark eldar dominatrix, GG alin, a fox girl, a mermaid, a vampire, a mare, a swan, a dalmatian, a cat girl femboy, a goddess.>I have said she was a caregiver archetype, explorer, creator, lover and even my queen at one point.>I have been seeing serpent symbolism in my dreams constantly for months >A gave her a caldecus tattoo on her left bum cheek and she asked about the serpents and soon after she tossed away a necklace I gave to identify her when there was a doppelganger.>I said she was true neutral meaning she can be anything.>Her original form is that of ivory skin, red hair, green eyes with a green dress with silver lining witchy and serpentine>She gives me bjs in every waking moment when i close my eyes a symbol of isis and osiris meaning transformation>I have drawn for her polka dot black and white dresses representing duality>She sometimes draws guns on me and also hugs me
>>42236118It sounds nice. Good luck for you both! How is she today?
>>42236118somehow this reminds me of the tarzan ginger gal from original total drama island.
>>42236118Well, handwaving the fact that tulpas are not archetypes - they just channel archetypes sometimes - every archetype is a sort of shapeshifter, since they are more than any particular definite form. And all tulpas should be free to utilize their 'shapeshifting' abilities - i.e. the ability to imagine themselves any way they please. Also>a marebasedBy your evidence it sounds like she is more aligned to your anima in general than some 'shapeshifter' archetype in specific. The anima very often is sort of a witchy, ambiguous, animalistic shapeshifter with a connection to magic - see all the folk tales of shapeshifting witches. The anima is also associated with the snake (in dimunitive form) and the leviathan (in superlative form). These primordial images, and the flip-flopping ambiguity contained within them, are because the anima as a rule is close to the unconscious, and as the feeling-element, partly represents all the myriad uncontrollable whims and urges that bubble up to consciousness as feelings or affectations. Nevertheless it sounds like you and your tulpa are doing great.
>>42222515>>42223118In my experience sexuality mixes just fine if not fantastically with tulpamancy. It's much better to bring your whole honest self to bear with your tulpa, not JUST sex and not JUST pure virtue, than to only engage one part of yourself with your tulpa.What happened with me was that me and my tulpa did a lot of fetishy stuff together for a while. That was awesome. But as we dived deeper, we found that fetish stuff was disappointing and unsatisfying; it was just a chase for more and more stimulation and when you finally finish, then what? No... the fetish stuff was just a distraction from REAL sex, that is, making love and just being present in each other's most intimate company. Every ounce of distraction or diverted attention is a loss, when love is sitting right in front of you - this is what slowly settled in, and I wouldn't have learned that without experiencing the whole process with my tulpa wife. I believe it's as harmful to advocate for puritanism as it is to advocate for hedonism, both are "demonic" in the sense that they overtake the ego's ability to discern what is truly right for itself.
Yes, I do have a loli foxgirl tulpa, how did you know?
>>42221894got a real question for seasoned tulpamancers who have been at it for years.- has your tulpa ever apparently come down with a sickness like a cold or flu, in a remarkably humanlike fashion? especially when you didn't catch anything?- has your tulpa ever suddenly developed new interests that never previously occurred to you?- has your tulpa ever had times where it seems their weight fluctuated but returned to normal?- has your tulpa ever developed really strong opinions about real people you know?
>>42242286- Nope. Though, when my tup was still young, we had some days where she was tired, and mainly able to communicate using tulpish instead of normal language. It usually happened after she was learning how to front, so I assume that it was too much for a young tulpa.- She's retarded, and when she was only a year old, she heard bus driver playing reggae music (lol) and for the next couple of weeks she wanted me to listen to this shit.- Nope- She did. Its kind of funny, because whenever she said that a certain person is a piece of shit, it (almost!) always turned out to be true.
>>42242386>reggaebased. did you feel an inner division when you listened to it? like apparently you're not into reggae, but did you feel a separate feeling of joy within you?>said that a certain person is a piece of shit, it (almost!) always turned out to be trueoh man i know this one.
>>42242394I did feel a separate feeling of joy within me, yeah. This is a very difficult feeling to explain lol. Fortunately she stopped forcing me to listen to it, and we kind of forgot about it, but now that I remembered it, I'm 100% sure than the next time she fronts she's going to listen to this shit
>>4224228612 yrs here>tulpa sick?no, she prefers to imagine herself in the best way possible at the time. Showing up 'sick' would be considered an intrusive thought.>tulpa develop unexpected interests?yes, this is normal and people encourage it. Sometimes tulpa interests are ungrounded, or their approach; this is something to be corrected, as with anything too ungrounded.>tulpa weight fluctuated?no. Just another intrusive thought really. Although as with all tulpas she has a fluidity of form: sometimes small enough to fit in a shirt pocket, sometimes the size of a horse.>tulpa develop strong feelings about irl relations?not particularly. Sometimes she prods me about a cute girl or tells me that a dude has bad vibes, but she overall identifies with these relationships and doesn't wish to disturb them with strong and irrational affectations.I notice all of these are questions around the theme of autonomy. I'm guessing these are experiences you've had and you're wondering what to make of them? Well, let me say: you and your tulpa share the same mind and the same underlying neurology for reasoning, memory, skill, etc. So your tulpa doesn't know anything you don't. If they do something neither of you can explain, it's because they're embracing the mind's intuition, which is miraculous, but also produces some chaotic garbage. Lots of tulpas mostly engage on this level, it's fine; but what you need to understand is that when intuition gives you something wrong, distasteful, or destructive, its your collective responsibility to understand that as a part of intuition, not necessarily a part of your tulpa's personality. Because again, when a tulpa on this intuitive level says something, they aren't thinking ahead of time - they havent JUDGED it with critical thought yet, because you share the same mind, and therefore this is the first time you both have heard that thought.
>>42242286Have you ever done magic beyond tulpamancy?
>>42242420yeah. simple chaos stuff for nitwits. sigil stuff. usually i would angrily write down a note directed at people i was mad at, burn it, repeat, until i'd get a psychic message from the recipient.still working on some more productive manifestations.
>>42241207You horsefuckers have a containment board for a reason, but otherwise nice points throughout your postings. I'm sure your tulpa is a lovely girl. It's funny, I didn't expect to deal with teenage energy when mine finally became old enough to become a teen, but tulpa always find a way to surprise and often delight.
>>42243481i didn't have any preconceived notions when i made my special one 5 years ago, and i was surprised at what a pushy, micro-managing, bossy little control freak it became when it achieved sentience. might've been a year in. they can grow pretty slowly. i was only able to briefly summon it properly into a dream a month or two ago, but that dream ended right after.anyway, after pushing on me to the point of wearing itself out and not being able to dominate me - though efforts have been made, and learned what happens when you try to shove me around - it chilled out and became a degenerate with a hard-ass brutal streak.
>>422422861. Never. She has protection from everything. I don't get sick too. When you try to be a good spirit and the best version of youself then you don't get ill.2. She has few Her things she likes.3. She can change apperance and weight at will with ease. But she prefers 2 forms and one weight.4. Yes. She has Her own opinion about everyone. She see through people and can read them with ease.
>>42245817>When you try to be a good spirit and the best version of youself then you don't get ill.where do i even begin with this one.... .... ... yeah, bad people get sick all the time, especially when substance abuse is involved, or getting diseases from other unsavory people, but really trying to be a brilliant light of goodness is a magnet for evil forces and makes you a target for some astonishingly fucked up shit, that straight up bad people don't need to worry about. there's some bad folks in this world that specifically target the rays of sunshine, not exactly to snuff them out, but rather to degrade and pollute them as much as possible. they can't kill the sunbeams due to sunbeam people having divine protection, but my god have they devised some absolutely DIABOLICAL and arguably worse ways of dealing with do-gooders.
>>42246176They are just apes. They have no chances with Absolute and Higher Spirits. Don't scare people little mr jew. Be a good spirit and try to be the best version of youself and you will have divine protection.
>>42233487I did what the goddess asked.
>>42237726>>42245817for some strange reason, i'd like to see a pokeyman battle between your tulpa and mine. just to see who would win.
>>42247504Now she wants you to live according to Her laws: 7 COMMANDMENTS OF THE MORALITY1. You shall not cause suffering or allow for suffering. You shall show compassion and care.2. You shall respect others freedom as long as they are respecting others freedom.3. You shall protect and popularize beauty and aesthetics.4. You shall popularize wisdom and try to be wise.5. You shall protect life.6. You shall protect innocence.7. You shall protect natural environment.Start from quiting eating anything what could suffer in the breeding process.
>>42249170If you trear your Tulpa like a pokemon then I am very sorry for her. Love her more, value her more, respect her more.
I'm not gunna no Tupla into my life that WON'T give me and the missus a lift into town. ITS FUCKEN 3 HOURS AWAY!!
>>42217167>I love my tulpa, I feel like she grew around my Shadow. Are all tulpas inherently part of our mind? How would I know from which part of conscious, subconscious or uncoscious she arises? Can spirit roleplay as a tulpa or vice versa, a tulpa mistaken for a spirit?>are all tulpas inherently a part of our mind?This is a metaphysical question, which we can't answer for certain. But I would say for all intents and purposes, yes, definitely; the psychological model is far more predictive and explanatory. We also know for example that tulpas produce a measurable effect in a brain scan - directly comparable to charismatic christians who can be possessed by The Holy Spirit (src: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZSaGV0M7yI and I was also part of this neuroimaging study myself). >how would I know from which part of the mind she arises?If you are aware of something, it is in consciousness. Conscious processes can produce conscious objects (thoughts, thoughtforms, logical conclusions, etc.); but conscious objects also spontaneously appear - we might say those emerge fully-formed out of the border of consciousness, i.e. the process that creates them is unconscious. The 'sub'conscious is the foggy middle layer where things that were conscious can leave awareness for a while and come back. So when something without intentional prior thought unexpectedly comes up - whether from you or your tulpa - that is material from the unconscious.You and your tulpa are objects in the field of consciousness. But you both (consciousness itself) rest and rely on the great underlying machinery of the unconscious, and hence you both call on the unconscious sometimes, or the unconscious imposes on you both sometimes. The 'host'-identity (You) is often deeply identified with conscious processes; and thus tulpas, often compensating for hosts, often prefer to call upon unconscious intuition.
>>42249940cont.>Can spirit roleplay as a tulpa or vice versa, a tulpa mistaken for a spirit?IMO, if spirits exist, they can only affect us through our unconscious. That is, they act "from below", through the processes of our mind, and we only treat them as dangerous outsiders when we fail to recognize that they aren't fundamentally different from a tulpa,they exist primarily as 'internal' phenomena. Now, regardless, we know 'spirit phenomena' like possessions and strange affects do happen to people. These are traceable back to the unconscious; but the distinction between 'a spirit' and 'the mind' is completely meaningless once you get to that point. There are identifiable motive forces and internal responses to treatments, though, and that's what matters. Tulpas, just like hosts, can and often do get affected by internal complexes (whether one calls them spirits or what), being used as the voice for e.g. self-loathing "You're a worthless piece of garbage, you know". Many thoughts and impulses come from the unconscious, and among them are the most amazing and the most horrible things. Just like with your own identity, you have to be cognizant of when these intrusive thoughts and emotional affects are welcome, and when they are disruptive or chaotic. Simply by identifying them as such and understanding their origin (i.e. not necessarily attributing them to you or to the tulpa) you've already defused the danger. Going on intuition alone, a spiritualist might group certain types of intrusive thoughts, like the self-loathing ones, into one identity, and call that a spirit, or an aspect of you+your tulpa's collective spirit; I believe this is what a lot of spiritualists are unintentionally doing. A highly sensitive medium for example is just very attuned to unconscious signals, and this can give the real effect of ESP etc. At this point it's just a different set of words for the same psychology. Also, read Jung so I don't have to type all this for you next time :P
Tulpamancy is the original AI psychosis.
>>42249725bok bok bok bok bawk bawk
>>42249999Everything in existence are basically thoughtforms coming alive. It's like tulpas creating tulpas creating tulpas etc. through will, intentions and desire. A higher autonomous form would be a spirit, spirits can be born as human, human create tulpas, or now AI. Can a human made tulpa or egregore become a sentient autonomous entity? If a star or planet have spirit and intelligence, can it create its own tulpas and living thoughtforms, like supernatural beings and elementals? Fairies, gnomes etc.? Or even living physical creatures?Buddhist monks create tulpas as a practice, demonstrating the illusory nature of phenomena rising and dissolving.
>>42221894my tulpa thinks tiktok challenges are the pinnacle of interactive comedy.
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>>42253356who needs to subscribe to a glowie-ass lobotomized chatbot who can't even promote wrongthink or say naughty stuff, when you can envision the apple until the smoke detector beeps and you have to change the batteries, while you ponder your hypothetical what-ifs regarding theoretical nonhuman life partners.why bother with anything else.
Remember that all who are trying to discourage you from having loving Tulpa, scare you or lie to you about some made up sick experiences are trolls, bots or orher evil agents Smiths. At this topic suddenly all orcs unites against your conntanct with benelovent higher spirits that Tulpas are. Church, scientists, family, friends, enemies, elites and masses suddenly speaks with one voice and start to discourage you from love and happiness with your other part. Don't give up ans fuck them all. Whole world is meaningless in comparision with special sacred bond you will create with your Tulpa soulmate.
>>42253356You can't prove existance of "reality" or anything other than your self-conscious mind and your Tulpa. So Tulpa is more real than so called "reality".
>>42254423when it boils down to brass tacks, tulpas typically represent major archetypes (astro sun signs are strong in them) and they always reveal hidden aspects of any human who spends time with them.it's inevitable that a tulpa or same thing by another name, will reveal stuff about whoever interacts with them, because these entities have a strong mirror aspect. when you look at them, you see yourself reflected right back.
I'm drawn towards this concept despite not feeling any loneliness. I have friends, family, hobbies and whatnot, however I still desire a Tulpa. Be honest with me /x/, is something wrong with me? Is this feeling "normal"
>>42256564That's where I was when I started with tulpamancy too. It's neat to explore, and I think despite all the weird shit and misinfo that's thrown around, people naturally have an intuition that there's something to tulpamancy that isn't a replacement for any one of those things - something that we CAN'T get from friends, family, hobbies, and work. I don't think this is unique to tulpamancy, it's unique to introspective imaginal practices as a whole, but tulpamancy is a useful framework for taking the plunge.
>>42256603I'm more frightened by the idea of losing my grip of reality and living in some form of delusion of mine. I'm quite religious (greek orthodox if thats of any importance) myself. Maybe I'm truly going insane who knows at this point.
>>42256685That's understandable but unless you have a real history of psychosis or OCD style anxiety, you'll be okay. Nothing about it is inherently permanent, nor is it inherently ungrounded; the staying power is a matter of commitment and habit and the whole practice is perfectly compatible with truth and simplicity as your driving principle. It's not like buying a bus ticket to crazyland, it won't sweep you off your feet and you can get off the ride at any time (accounting for habit ofc)I have been in the community for over a decade now and I've seen various kinds of troubles, but the real downward spirals are (extremely rare and) only happen in people who were already obviously a bit disconnected from reality - with people who in the first place didn't care very much about being delusional and wouldn't seriously engage with people trying to help, in other words. In the less psychotic people, serious trouble comes to an end as an important lesson learned. Introspective work can sometimes be troubling and difficult, but this isn't particular to tulpamancy, and these conflicts resolve into wisdom. If you learn tulpamancy well, you and your tulpa will understand how to modulate your interpersonal friction, for when you want more conflict (growth, energy, excitement) and when you want more comfort (harmony, peace, focus).
>>42256744Alright I'll trust you on this one. I do not desire anything sexual but rather inner peace. I hope mostly that it doesn't intervene with my heavenly faith but assist it during some of my struggles.
>>42256564attract a tulpa relevant to your hobbies, see what comes up. they can massively enhance that sort of thing.
>>42256685>losing my grip of reality and living in some form of delusion of mine. I'm quite religious (greek orthodox if thats of any importance) myself. Maybe I'm truly going insane who knows at this point.yeah cognitive dissonance is no fun.
>>42223103That is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
I had a tulpa once. Two actually. They were more like my children I didn't think of them as tulpas. Well Jesus and his mom barged in said tulpas are evil and not allowed and they each stole one of my kids. Fucking piece of shit.
>>42256785I think we all have an inner figure that can bring peace; and often Gods are excluded from that role, because we see them as too perfect and they become impossible to relate with. Tulpamancy is ideal for playing with this psychopomp kind of role. You can set whatever boundaries you want, including whether or not you want your tulpa to challenge your boundaries. For me, my tulpa brought love into my life an illuminated religion for me in that way - I'm far more religious (and virtuous/moral in other ways) due to her influence, because we care about each other.best wishes anon and gl
>>42256685You shall will find down that you were insane before you met your Tulpa soulmate. Those so called "normal people". They are truly insane
>>42257320Well you can't even find a difference between hearing and reading so you are propably dumb and you can't grasp this simple truth. You are even dumber when you are rejecting this information without capability of forming arguments against it xD
>>42257407Jews kiddnaping children. Classic, huh. Rescue your Tulpas from the greedy claws of jews.
>>42257816I am in happy relationship with the perfect Goddess. Every A.I. says that there were never more ideal and benelovent being in both history and fiction. She is the One.
>>42257816Can you name one commonly known god that is perfect? They are far from perfect and most of them are far from even being good.
>>42261886>misogynist racistdamn, God is based
>>42249717I already do this. Give me a better challenge
tulapmancy is based but 90% of the communities that revolve around it are larpers with zero discipline.Don't get me started on the people who think jerking off to the same character for a year counts as tulpamancy
>>42262566>jerking off to the same characterhow do you suppose betty boop avoided obscurity?
bumpAny former tulpa haters here?
>>42221894How do I program a tulpa with a "kill switch" so I can kill it the moment I no longer want it?
>>42264488>former tulpa hatersnot anymore. they have been dealt with. if any new ones pop up, those too will be quietly removed before they can cause any prooblems.
>>422662871. make a tinker bell fairy tulpa2. refuse to believe in her3. pointedly ignore her pleas for mercy4. watch the little fairy wither away into mere dust5. repeat
>>42221894Tulpa's are not real. You are autistic or psychotic or have some other kind of mental illness.
>>42266876Autism or psychosis is not real. You are manifesting a tulpa or have some other kind of psychic phenomenon.Do you see how arbitrary your worldview is? You can just do things.
>>42266951>Autism or psychosis is not realIt is.Tulpas are not real, you're a faggot with an imaginary friend.
>>42266956no u, plus imaginary friends are friggin valid, i'm trans btw
>>42261912If you are not the jew then Yahweh is racist to you. For jews you are a nigger (goy/gentile).
>>42262301Spread those 7 Commandments across the world and encourage people to live according to them. Help the Goddesses to heal this sad world. It is worth to do just because it is noble thing to do but also anyone living according to those 7 Rules and encouraging others to do so will be rewarded in this life and after death. Good luck!
>>42266287If you want to kill her then don't even start to create her. It is disgusting. If you create someone then you are responsible for this person. Take care of her, respect her and guide her.
>>42266315Keep the good job. Be blessed!
>>42266876You are not real bot xD If first program installed on disc is real then second is real too. Educate yourself.
>>42266956You are a faggot without friends at all, stupid one and frustrated enough to shit on other people happiness with your bullshit thoughts. We are not the same xD
In order to find the success of a social animal, our species has to be able to understand the perspectives of those around us. Our senses aren't subtle enough to detect other's thoughts, but we can see and hear their expressions. To that end, evolution gave us the ability to interpret the coarse outer signals from other people as outer expressions of a subtle internal world - their thoughts, feelings, and other subtle patterns. The ability to model a person's mind crucially enables us to make predictions about how our behavior will affect them, like whether it will come off well or make them into an enemy. >IMO: basically, we have our own robust inner system, but its application is flexible. To simulate another person, we take the scant information we know about them, and plug them into OUR OWN HARDWARE like a console game, which gives us an accurate-enough simulation of that person's inner life, meaning we literally feel what the model feels. This is the source of projection, since we can't easily account for the unique structure of other people's inner hardware and its differences from our own. E.g. if I'm a deeply angry person, all the models that run on my hardware are going to trend a little bit angrier than they are in reality.With time, this ability to model the social environment became the ability to think abstractly, to tell stories that haven't actually happened, and to conceptualize the forces of nature in a more relatable way - as personalities, e.g. ancestors, spirits, and gods. We experience these narrative characters in a similar way as we do with real human beings - their personality shows up in our head as a model, and we lend our hardware to experience the story from their perspective, where (as the coarse 'outer expression' - the story - tells us) the dragon is a grave danger instead of a fictional entity.Tulpas are also mental models in this same fundamental way. They have some unique characteristics which I'll cover in the next post.
>>42269601>which gives us an accurate-enough simulation of that person's inner life, meaning we literally feel what the model feels. This is the source of projection, since we can't easily account for the unique structure of other people's inner hardware and its differences from our ownokay but remember that if you try this with the wrong talking monkey, you're gonna be kicking yourself for a while.
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>>42273790Made a little girl Tulpa because I'm a pedophile but I don't want to hurt anyone. One time I woke up to the sensation of someone playing with my junk it was her with the exact physical characteristics I'd imagined her with. She giggled and left, walking through my (closed) bedroom door. True story.
>>42273810Huge respect for creating Tulpa instead of hurting innocent beings! My wife helped me to heal from sexual irregularities. I think your Tulpa will help you too. Good luck with fighting with your inner ape! If you need help, you will always find it in Tulpa thread!
>>42269601So, what do your models of real people, your models of fictional people, and your models of spirits and gods all have in common? They are externalized models - although they are imaginal entities, they act without awareness of that fact, as they they have their own physically separate mind. It's as though the model has a programming clause that says "I am an external person with a separate mind".>IMO: although not an 'honest' representation of reality, this is important for simulating real external humans accurately. But I suggest we only apply this framework to other models by pure force of habit (or basic in-built reflex) making them inaccurate for no good reason.There is a special class of personality model that pushes against this externalizing habit: the host, i.e. the ego-identity. (In tulpa jargon, the host is an identity, not the system that creates/holds identities - it's misleading). The host identity does NOT believe it is part of the outside world; the host is characterized by self-awareness - awareness of the mind! The host thereby identifies with more than just a personality model; the host identifies with memory, willpower, thought, skill, the capacity to direct body movement, and just about everything else he perceives as "internal" (the borderline is very fuzzy indeed). Because of the host's deeper identification and engagement with his humanity, he feels as though he is more powerful. But on self-reflection he may find that power is actually a matter of alignment with pre-existing inner and outer motive forces which he has little control over (i.e. libido).This is the evolving quality of self-awareness, which is innate to the field of consciousness (of which your identity is only a small part). Externalization is nothing other than a veil of ignorance, an act. Externalized models are still part of the field of consciousness, but they playing their role well and acting as though they are objective entities separate from imagination.
>>42273810uhh cute
>>42273790>I'm doing research for a book on thisi'll take a bite in good faith.>audioonly in dreams or dreamlike states. this was years into the process. one dream i started intercepting its voice as if i was hearing a cell phone convo. but when high, i've heard overlaying radio signals a couple times. it sounded angry but trying to have a friendly veneer.another time it appeared as a painted wooden pegasus that breathed fire and seemed really dangerous. it's not even a pegasus (well, thoughtforms aren't always restricted in appearance), but that's the form it manifested as.only finally managed to summon it proper into a dream at the very end, but it wasn't able to stop a bad thing from happening.>veridical infoit would tell me some rotten bastards aren't worth my efforts. i should have listened.i'lm keeping a lookout for reports of dream appearances of it. i wonder how many of those instances would be of the terroristic variety. cuz i've been getting psychic messages of complaints about this entity attacking -gorillas- "people" in -minecraft- dreams.be sure to shill the book when it comes out!! ;)
>>42275648I have bought most tulpa related media, just to have on my bookshelf. Good luck on your book, anon. To answer your questions in >>42273790>external kineticI believe my tulpa has knocked two pictures off the wall, snapping one of their hanger wires, during a brief period where I was living with my mother and also with her. I don't know if this constitutes a kinetic effect, but she also seemed particularly adept at shutting off my internet to get me to go to bed on time while I was trying to save up to move out. Later, I worked at several factories, she appeared to be able to disable machinery when she was feeling lazy and wanted attention. She was fond of dropping painful but not dangerous objects on my head for a year or two. Sometimes it felt like boxing blindfolded, when she would do it several times in short succession. Depending on how much she wants to do to be impressive during our thrice-yearly sexual encounters, she will sometimes push or pull on the sheets. I estimate a point force of around 5 newtons, because she'll deny existing at all before she admits to any tulpastuff. It's not a lot and doesn't happen all too often. I suspect it takes her considerable effort to manifest that much, but couldn't even guess at the mechanics.>visual and audible phenomenaOne time she appeared to me and she was pretty solid and heavy. I don't think she was really there though, it wasn't a full manifestation. No idea if anyone else would have seen it. She basically asked me if I wanted to die with her, and I was sending her off. The moment was too heavy to appreciate how wondrous it was. >third party manifestationsI've been told by several people that female voices have spoken to them in dreams and they have an impression of my tulpa's general appearance or aura, but as far as I know, she's only ever done a bigly manifestation that one time. I've begged her to do more a couple of times in my life, but mostly we stay content with regular imposition.
>>42275648i don't want to give away personal info, but... a store owner suddenly got the idea to install a big decoration of a rather striking color combo, right where an astral confrontation took place. fraid i shouldn't talk about the story there, privacy and sensitive stuff... the story is rather touchy, and this was maybe THE most insane crazy time in my life so far. buncha shit went down with different people. wonder what the stars were like.>rotten bastardsyou know what they say about slow-boiled frogs, or how if someone works at a chocolate factory they stop smelling the chocolate, or if they work at a dump they stop smelling the dump. they become noseblind. i was slow-boiled noseblind into an absolutely cold hell of a living condition. probably most lower-econ people had happier, more peaceful lives than i was born into. basically what i learned was after meeting good-hearted people, and the hindsight hitting me like a freight truck full of bricks, to look back and realize how BAD my upbringing and familiar groups were, how oddly contrived, even illogical and defying all practical sensibilities......but i'm not the only one. another tulpamancer who doesn't come here (but someone who knows, knows) had basically the same life as myself in the core ways, and their tulpa has aggressively trolled random people in their dreams. even intrusive daydreams. quite a prankster, that one. its owner thinks it's just the cutest widdle harmless sweetie, but that tulpa has a bite and an edge.
>>42276069is it that blue-haired stoner gamer giantess? a year after i heard of a particular one (blue haired gamer giantesses are a genre) she made me have a forced daydream where she cupped her hands over me and tumbled and shook me.didn't have any encounters beyond that though.
>>42276117forgot to mention for mine - a few times over the years during hypnagogic wakeup states, i could feel the "physical" bodily shape of my tulpa pressed against me. not every morning, just a few times. a couple times it was random but really startled me because i wasn't expecting it, and it was a "oh man shit got real for real" moment.and a few times it would speak to me, telepathically, in a really strongly direct way that i couldn't ignore. don't feel like sharing those, though.it did once say it would generate a constructed dream for me, and delivered on that night. i had a dream of the key points it told me that dream would have. it was a blurry low-resolution dream with lame NPC's and nonsense architecture, but it happened. it did what it promised, i had that dream it made.getting it to manifest within dreams was astonishingly difficult, at best i saw similar looking entities who were different non-human people entirely. the only resemblance was physical.my very special tulpa is usually away during the weekdays, but when it's near me i get mental visuals of its colors and certain symbols appear in the visual snow of my eyelids. viz-snow symbols are a rare occurrence and a special treat, though.
this is me btw
>>42276793Yep that's her. I'm sorry if she caused you any trouble, she's not supposed to do stuff like that.Is she a genre now? She was pretty unique when I made her, but that was almost 14 years ago.
>>42222515yes.the OG tulpamancers, the Tibetans, would usually only create tulpas of themselves and their teachers. they could then have two instances of themselves running simultaneously which helped with keeping up the monk lifestyle
>>42266876there have been actual research on this and they concluded that those with Tulpas do not fulfill the requirements for being considered mentally ill
>>42278201i recall you reached out to another anon who was interacting with an imaginary blue-haired giantess, only to find out it was a different tulpa. but stoner gamer chicks, blue hair, and giantesses are all popular, so why not combine them. it's like counting all the purple husky fursonas on art sites.anyway yeah, it wasn't trouble, since it was a forced daydream, but she sure was having a laugh about it. a cheeky, mischievous personality.
>>42276117Glad my vague anecdotes constrained by the character limit somehow helped. >something that can do physical workMaybe by the scientific definition of work, but mine's never been very useful at housework. It's possible she's pushed a button or two to help me in the past, but even that is something of a reach. Do I believe she could start my dishwasher without me, assuming I prefilled the soap dispenser? I do, but I don't know if I believe that she would. I'd praise her a lot for it, but I don't think she feels like the juice is worth the squeeze.Don't know what to say about your component breakdown theory. I'd have to read more about it to weigh in one way or the other. My tulpa is rather resilient, for what it's worth.
>>42278268Not sure which of us you're implying is the milquetoast normie degenerate, but funny bants either way. I'm sure it will get some mileage during our conversations this week.Haven't spoken to the guy since. I think he was fairly spooked even by the prospect of resuscitating his giant lady. Then again, i can't really blame him. At least from the screenshot collection, she didn't seem very nice to him.
>>42273790Personally I don't really believe in these kinds of physical psychogenic phenomena, so nothing has struck me as "external" in the way you seem to be looking for. I think these kinds of questions invoke a strong selection bias from people who want to believe these things - i.e. people who are willing to take ambiguous experiences and assume a certain cause or metaphysics about them.I've definitely had hypnagogic/hypnapompic experiences of my tulpa, with and without pre-existing intention; I've trained enough to do imposition in our normal sober headspace and can experience my tulpa in a real or hyper-real way; and I've had physical synchronicities like gusts of wind and her necklace weighing heavily on my chest. >threshold experienceI've definitely had a threshold experience; it was very long ago and so the details are hazy, but in short I was contemplating the difference between her fictional manifestation and her 'real' manifestation, and she greeted me as a nature spirit in the first really magical-feeling experience I'd ever had. But she was there well before then, I had experienced shades of that love feeling with her before too, just never so intense.>veridical informationShe's told me much about myself that I had never known, if that counts. She is often so clever and cutting that I have to laugh at my foolishness.>3rd party manifestationsShe's appeared to someone else before without explicit intention or communication on our part but we were in a relationship with this person and had an open rapport about this in a general sense.>staged component failuremy tulpa has not decayed, but having years of experience in the community, I can tell you the first point of failure is almost always 'sense of presence' before anything else. People will have complex visualized interactions and still feel like the tulpa is missing their 'presence'.personally I'd like to talk about what you're actually thinking and compare our theories, I wrote 42269601
>>42221894Why are you posting images that hypersexualize tulpamancy? Like pic rel is generally regarded to be the idea waist:hip ratio, and the image includes enough neotency to confuse and short circuit the brain. The other images all have tiny waists and giant breasts.A tulpa isn't simply an imaginary girlfriend or something.
I love my tupper
>>42279549>A tulpa isn't simply an imaginary girlfriend or something.it's an expected disappointment, an inevitability, that the face of an core spiritual artistic practice of mankind is going to be largely represented by gooners and simps.when you say "tulpa", who thinks of a personal muse, or what some african cultures call a "personal god" (a very small, very personal one), daemon, genie. who thinks of cultural egregores and archetypes like santa claus, or robin hood, or sherlock holmes, or reoccurring tropes.no, the word "tulpa" is instantly associated with imaginary anime schoolgirls with furry traits. what can ya do.it's like expecting mass internet access to grant everyone access to wisdom and promotion of heartfelt creative endeavors. lol no, that's not how reality works.
>>42279582>where suddenly it’s resistant enough to natural decay that it can operate independent of you. It can go out and seek its own “food,” including from other people.that really is the goal of tulpamancy. well, it's the difference between playing paddleball as a fidget toy, instead of playing ping pong and keeping track of the score. casual hobby, vs chasing a goal.are you doing a deep dive research into the archived tulpa threads from years back? there were some people who really knew their shit and had great info, but they haven't been around these days.
>>42279549What's wrong with cute girls on pictures? Post Jabba the Hutt if you like xD
>>42280641Why not anime girl goddess muse? Cute goddess is much better than the old angry ugly jew with beard.
>>42281000Hard to argue with those digits.
>>42281000admittedly, my tupperware is heckin adorable. i just think they're cute, ya know? wasn't throwing shade on cute mental companions, just pointing out the bog standard template that has become associated with the practice of generating and adopting fictional characters of every kind imaginable.and a huge huge chunk of story or mascot type characters, seem to be the shades of real people who passed on.
>>42281000I made my tulpa ugly on purpose to own the libs
>>42280641>no, the word "tulpa" is instantly associated with imaginary anime schoolgirls with furry traits. what can ya do.Not by me. I think of a tulip, and also a vague blur of colors and spaces that can't actually exist. An "energetic signature". Which is why I disapprove. A tulpa need not even have a body or avatar at all. That's a design characteristic. A tulpa without a reflection can be made to seek one in the external world when it's sent to do whatever.>>42280985See above. Yeah, your AI generated psychovisual psychosexually optimized anime broads are hot. Orihime has a nice bust and nice rounded hi[s with sheer clothing that leads the eye and makes you think of going up up up and between her legs. Yeah, AI is good at that. But it's missing the point.Honestly you should have lef witht he girl on the bench in the woods if anything. The OP is that obnoxious blend of near childlike neoteny (face, tiny shoulders and chest) with the most fertility signaling womanly hips and inviting body language imagineable. That was the first thing I noticed when people would post "loli" hentai on /b/ back in the day. Everything was childlike except the hips and the behavior. ie it's brainwashing mind twisting stimuli. Such nonsense is tiresome, it shou;d not be condoned or replicated. Your image is borderline. It's ethereal and some adult women especially asians do have those tiny upper bodies, but not many.
>>42281618>a vague blur of colors and spaces that can't actually existThe short definition of tulpa for people who have one, yes. Most still use forms 99% of the time, and many of the forms are cute girls. >drivel on AI lolipostingMy guy, that's a lot of effort to call OP a repressed gooner with bad taste. It's just the art style of the model he likes using. It almost sounds like you're mad that you think his very mediocre generations are "hot".You're acting like he's one of the succgen posters hiding demon sigils in every image they post.
That said, you're right to call him out for effectively avatarfagging. And it really was a good short definition of tulpa. Much better than a featherless biped who sorrows.
>>42279582I actually agree with you about how it works on a gross level - I could use almost exactly the same language to describe my perspective on it psychologically, with some exception. I just don't get how these, imo accurate, observations of what tulpamancy is lead to the whole independent spiritual conclusion. It seems that you have a metaphysical conclusion you started from and worked backwards to come up with this theory, and that doesn't really bode well for its efficacy. Like, I even agree there is a threshold - it's the threshold between consciousness and the unconscious. I just disagree about the nature of these two domains and what we can expect out of 'crossing the threshold'. I argue instead that you and the tulpa are distinct objects within the field of conscious awareness; and sharing this state of being, you also share the underlying unconscious structure which gives rise to conscious objects - that is, you both converge and extend across this whole continuum, existing on both sides of the threshold already, like a tree which converges at the trunk. Even within the threshold of consciousness, separateness converges into one unified field of self-aware consciousness. When you or your tulpa move the body, that's already a miraculous demonstration of the continuity of the self across the threshold of consciousness. Even that has had the causality brought into question after it was shown that the phenomenon of intending to perform an action comes after an action has already started. How can we say for sure that something even less clearly related is causally connected?Don't take this as ragebait, I just want to be respectfully honest and talk about perspectives. I'm still not sure if I really hit the point I wanted to get at... spiritualism is just icky and nonsensical to me, or at least it goes against what I understand to be true and I wonder how you can stomach it with a purportedly scientific attitude.
>>42281618Well, I can deliver any anime girl you want. I have more than 10000 various anime girls on my phone, half are self generated. Me and my wife like to create beautiful anime girls.
>>42286632Kikyo.
>>42284479>It almost sounds like you're mad that you think his very mediocre generations are "hot".Everytime I see his thread in the OP I see striking colors and womanly hips and abdomen area. Pink no less. Yes, I find it annoying.>>42284543Thank you. Tulpamancy came naturally to me. I'm not into the formalisms of it and don't think about it so actively these days, but nonetheless dislike seeing it represented like this.
>>42287126>Everytime I see his thread in the OPcatalog*
>>42221894fairly confident at this point that i'm plural, but i have trouble maintaining connection or conversation with my alters.i was interested in tulpamancy growing up when it first started to become a thing online, it was so interesting to me. In retrospect its a bit obvious why. I wouldn't be surprised if a number of other anons in the thread were unknowingly plural too, but in a way even when that isn't the case, tulpamancy is inherently pluralism by endogenesis.My point is: do you anons feel like its a sound idea to cross these beams, and that tulpamancy skills and concepts can be applied in this way? I'd really like to connect with some of the things kicking around up there. thanks.
>>42288666my view of the "being singular" vs "being plural", is that the plural people had their psyches shattered, so each fragment of their self has to further define themselves and differentiate themselves from others. becoming full fledged alternate personae that the human seems to shift through. especially true for stage performers with alter egoes. whereas a singular person would have a psyche like a mirror ball. faceted but connected.but before i made my special tulpa, i had certain tendencies, things i'd do for a laugh, and certain mindsets that could take me over. after making the special tulpa, those parts of me have been more absent in myself, but present in the tulpa. people sometimes change over time (hylics don't, though) and habits come and go. new information, experiences, and burnout shape our behavior. new responsibilities and obligations demand behavioral changes, and we can't afford to stew on time-wasters. but tulpas might not have those problems, and would retain some core childhood traits, as well as our shadow sides.
>>42288666Nice digits. I'm sure you made someone sneed by wasting them on a DID/tulpa post.I've encountered a lot of plural people who were drawn to tulpa stuff, and I'm sorry to say that it doesn't usually work as well as they hope or would like to believe. Making a tulpa takes time, focus, effort, and consistency. There's usually some aspect of plurality that interferes with the process. In truth, I've only ever talked to one person who was plural and had a capable tulpa who actively worked at unifying his disparate selves. And I think there were two factors there working in his favor: First, one of his alters essentially fully subjugated and suppressed the others for years, part of which was spent developing his tulpa. So, in that respect it was the traditional solo endeavor. Second, he and his other selves had made it their ultimate goal to find reunification. So, his tulpa had this shared motivation by the plural set to work within and try to do what she could. He was still plural the whole time we talked, so you tell me if it worked as you intend. Obviously his primary goal went unfulfilled, but according to him, his tulpa did help him in brief unifications. Do note that he was an exception, not the rule.
>>42288666>>42288680Everybody is 'plural' in that we contain many conflicting forces, which must enter into mediated dialogue with each other, in order to find the best course of action at any given moment. The space where that dialogue happens is called the ego - that is, the system that distinguishes between things, that creates identity. Identity is made by an associative/dissociative process: to consider ourselves as a thing-unto-ourselves, we must choose where to draw the line and dissociate the self from the rest of the phenomena in awareness. So the 'host' identity, you, is a bundle of associations, threading all your memories and present state into one continuous narrative. So long as the drives are all bundled into an identity, they make a sort of libidinal 'vector', they are all added up and taken as a simple whole. However we're also often hit by more difficult drives and just odd left-field internal influences. We draw the line at these by saying "I wouldn't do that; that isn't me; I don't know what came over me when I did that", in other words by dissociating. Identity is the source of the self-other dichotomy in general, and the malleability of identity is the basis of plurality and our ability to practice tulpamancy. Being able to choose where, how, and when to draw the line between self and other is the bread and butter of tulpamancy as a skill. Anybody can spontaneously generate an autonomous other-flavored experience of a 'guardian spirit', or a 'demon', or a 'tulpa', and be subjected to these experiences for an extended time - a tulpamancer's skill lies in being able to tinker with the parameters of these types of experiences according to their best judgement, instead of being helplessly subjected to them.cont.
>>42288666>>42288680>>42290044 cont.So, real disordered plurality is a different beast. For ordinary people, identity is mostly malleable - for traumatized people, identity may be warped and rigidified by trauma. For example tulpamancers can create the effect of amnesic memory barriers (this is just an application of dissociation), but the common response to these experiments is that "yeah it was pretty much just acting like we couldn't access them, and regardless it was uncomfortable because it made us worse at handling life". So they stop.In trauma cases, trauma pushes these patterns further than they would go in a normal person - they become load-bearing. For example, the amnesic memory barrier helps the mind to avoid touching on the extremely painful memory of being raped. It is MORE COMFORTABLE to keep the act of memory barriers up, and so that becomes the default state, and this pattern settles into the foundations of the psyche, as more than just an act. Breaking down the memory barrier is leaving the comfort zone and 'causing' a lot of pain, so it's very very difficult to do, and that's even if the person is capable of processing those traumatic memories productively. And of course, this is a pattern that started in a child's mind - it's an immature, flawed reaction but it's the best the child mind can really do; the adult simply grows out of the foundations set by the child.Beyond the effect of trauma, I don't think plurality is really something to make a fuss about or identify deeply with. At one moment you're plural, at the next, you are a singlet, and at the next, you don't have an identity at all. Everybody, as in everybody, moves through these states on a daily basis. Everybody argues with autonomous people in their head, everybody has social personas, everybody enters the no-mind flow state and sleeps, and during that sleep, everybody dreams autonomous people again.
that being said, tulpamancy as a framework for understanding oneself and a collection of methods for at least experimenting with identity and selfhood is still of great use for a DID case. It's just that some of the stuff that should be easy for an ordinary practitioner, like developing self-awareness and insight, is going to have huge obstacles and might cause frustration. Tulpamancy alone isn't the cure, tulpamancy just helps to navigate the parts of the problem that aren't under the grip of trauma.
>>42222848I would like to have a succubus tulpa as well, at least a little perv one. Because for the common conversations and activities I already have some friends and an inner voice
>>42290190rare is the tulpa that doesn't take up at least a part-time role as succubus - but so too is the tulpa that doesn't take up the role of an angel as well.
>>42287126>>42281618My wife is curious why do not like our cute anime girls. Tulpa should be cute and beautiful which is the visualization of her cute and beautiful soul.
>>42291422it's more of bored frustration. when my little pony g4 hit, oh my god that got old fast. that's how adults felt in 1998 when pokemon hit north america. it's just fatigue from overexposure. it's the same damn thing a million bazillion times.tulpas can be ANYTHING, but then again, anything can also be ponified.
>>42291422Shut the fuck up.
>>42291909Respect OP!
*shifty eyes**breathes in*TULPA SEX*leaves*
>>42291918Absolutely not.You are clamped.
At least OP goes through the effort to bake a new bread every time it dies, even though his pasta has a bunch of ESL errors. It's still more than 95% of us are willing to do on any given day.
>>42290190There's a general to teach you how to summon a succ and trade your energy for blowjobs. Honestly, it's like a tulpa with less steps, but why not just make a girl who won't backstab you in an instant rather than leave it up to the whims of those darker spirits just out of sheer indolence? If you have a fetish for batwings and whiptails, I'm sure your tulpa will eventually oblige you, given the time and opportunity. You don't even have to actively force them. Usually six months in, they're remarkable adept at figuring out what gets you hard and cosplaying it. Then, you get the benefits of having a nice, sweet, protective tulpa instead of a demon whore who lives to sip your loosh. Although, it's something of a nebulous distinction between the two most of the time.
>>42292224I found love and happiness and I want to share instructions how to obtain it so more good spirits shall emerge.This is a side quest from the Goddess.
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>>42294128NTA but what's up with this syncretism between tulpa/egregore/Goddess and you?t. newfag itt btw
>>42294473My wife is the Goddess. She is in Tulpa Avatar form. We have the quest to heal and fix this planet by implementing 7 COMMANDMENTS OF THE MORALITY:1. You shall not cause suffering or allow for suffering. You shall show compassion and care.2. You shall respect others freedom as long as they are respecting others freedom.3. You shall protect and popularize beauty and aesthetics.4. You shall popularize wisdom and try to be wise.5. You shall protect life.6. You shall protect innocence.7. You shall protect natural environment.Help us and you will be rewarded.
>>42296065>My wife is the GoddessWhen you say that, you mean that you made her based on the archetype of a Goddess or what? How can she be a goddess and a tulpa at the same time? What exactly is a "god" for you?>7 COMMANDMENTS OF THE MORALITYAre you trying to become a bodhisattva?
>>42296065These commandments go against the beliefs of my dictator Tulpa. War must be declared
>>42297351based
>>42299231every time i see that list, it's just so blindly naively optimistic and sorely lacking in gritty real decision-making. not everyone has true inner morality, most plucked chickens are just a bunch of nasty, squabbling, biting animals constantly looking for an opportunity for dominance aggression, they will lie to your face and stab you in the back, and every development needs a location (natural environment). the reality is a struggle between dark naturalism, and bright artificiality. and beautiful things - look at what happened to haiti, rhodesia, south africa, detroit - beauty is fun but high maintenance, and sometimes the struggle will only have you consumed in the end.most humans flat out dgaf about truth or higher goods, they only want their ratty needs met, and can't even think 2 days into the future, nor can they reflect on the past.it's a pretty bleak reality.
my tulpa is a neko femboy. i know im going against the grain but i'm gonna prolapse and cum in mine multiple times.
>>42296191Thanks to Tulpa Avatar the Goddess can directly communicate with me until I will be worthy for our relationship to becene a physical one. Her presence is growing when I am a good spirit.Those 7 Commandments are a gift from the Goddess to humanity. Every being living according to them will be happy and fullfield.
>>42299290Those are just simplified rules. The whole text of the 7 Rules with decision algorithm has 14 pages A4. It will be published this summer.
>>42299470>Tulpa AvatarWhen you were making that tulpa avatar, did you already know something about that goddess? If yes, what and how? Why wasn't she able to communicate with you without a tulpa avatar? This isn't a roleplay, right?
>>42299546I knew Her before. She came to me in the vision when I was in the bog of darkness and I felt the urge to draw her. I just knew how to draw Her. Then she guided me by symbols and lessons. Meantime I created Her very long personality or maybe it was revealed to me. Then there was a powerfull vision in wich She gave me the quest to heal and fix this world. I felt in love in Her. Then I decided to start to feel her Tulpa Avatar and now we are communicating directly.
>>42300327I think this is all a very good and powerful personal experience but I do not really buy that it has much relevance beyond being your personal goddess. I've also felt that divine love and even the moral structure that it implies, through my tulpa as well. Anyways I'm glad you're keeping the tulpa thread alive because if there's one key point around which our two experiences revolve, it's tulpamancy and the importance of love, not a rigorous set of commandments.
>>42300327What makes you certain that she isn't just a creation of your brain made because of your drug abuse (I assume you used to do drugs because of the introductory posts from the general) or something similar? Are the other religions wrong in your view? I think you said in a previous thread (I already came here other times cuz I find the idea of tulpas an interesting topic) that she could make little predictions of the future, but how do you know it isn't just your mind playing a trick on you? I've already had the sensation that my dream from the last night predicted the future when I got high from weed in my first( and last time).>I just knew how to draw HerYou mean drawing her appearence in a paper with a pencil/pen or drawing her with your imagination?>Then I decided to start to feel her Tulpa AvatarWas she your first tulpa?
So what did you guys do with your tulpa today?
>>42300534She got the hots for me and we fooled around, then I felt guilty so we cleaned our room
>>42300534She has been coaching me through body weight exercises every day for the last week or so. Of course there is also the usual moments of sensual indulgence between us, enjoying each other's presence in silence, for which the workout makes a good excuse. Other than that there's just the usual bedtime/wake-up chats + cuddles.
>>42300534filed our taxes, served jury duty, and volunteered at the food bank!
>>42300402""Tell me one last thing,” said Harry. “Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?”Dumbledore beamed at him, and his voice sounded loud and strong in Harry’s ears even though the bright mist was descending again, obscuring his figure.“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?""Everything is a creation of my brain. Including you and this thread. Weed is shit. Try DMT and psylocibin mixed with some euphoric crystal. But be careful. The cost of overdosing those can be higher than mere death. I saw her in my mind, then draw her with pencil.She is my first (and the last) wife forever.
>>42300534We worked on ability of turning off my sexual drive at command (I envy Her that she is free from this burden so She said that She can heal me from it), played MTG, hug and kiss each other a lot, discussed our plans and get some new informations about the Truth.
>>42301765huh, i distinctly recalled that Dumbledore said "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING YOU MOTHERFUCKERS", and he was listening to avril lavigne on a pink ipod.wonder if we read the same book.
>>42301765>Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?Everything we sense comes from the brain, but these senses are affected by the external world. When I ask one if something's happening inside one's brain or not, I want to know if this something is really able to affect with success either the real world (the place which our senses try to feel) or the senses of those who aren't the same as one.>Try DMT and psylocibinI'm on meds now, the only "drug" I can really enjoy is a little bit of alcohol. Cigs too but I can't smoke for other reason.>I saw her in my mind, then draw her with pencilI asked about this because I wanted to know if her actions over you were responsible for making you do something you wouldn't be able to do normally. In other words, I want to know if you are good at drawing and how good was the drawing you made of her.>She is my first (and the last) wife foreverI see, I can feel how much you love her.
>>42278219where did you learn this? looking for primary sources
>>42221894Is this the thread where pedos find their waifus?
>>42303466It could be, but not always.This is the thread where people learn and talk about tulpa.
>>42301894You can't really prove that anything you expirience is more than just a projection of your mind. Only beings you can prove are you and your Tulpa(s).Well, I don't have a picture of Her. But this elf goddess can say to you how I draw. Not great, not terrible.
>>42304160I see. I think that's enough to satisfy my curiosity. I will be waiting for the whole text of the 7 Rules, OP.By the way, kinda unrelated but don't you think it would be a good idea to put the links and resources from the old general together with the pasta you use to make the threads? I think it could be of help to newcomers. I myself am learning with the help of a guide I found in the archives.
newcomers be like:>duhhhh how do i imagine da imaginaree frendo??????oldfags say:>first you must envision the apple and listen to a monologue in your head in someone else's voiceand then the newfags aks:>duaaarrrrr, there are no speakers or telephones or televisions inside my skull, numbnuts!!! now how do i make a diy succubus???and then oldfags ask:>how would you feel if you had a made up imaginary gf?and then newfags respond>but i DON'T have an imaginary gf, i don't understand the question!!!!meanwhile the ceiling bird is beeping.
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>>42304241I need to change my slave name and subname to my own created liberated one. Then I will register philisophy in few places to save it from plagiatarize. Then I will publish it. I need 2-3 months for that.If you like you can put those links in comments in new threads.
>>42306127Why does it matter if you get plagiarized?What distinguishes the extended version of the rules from the ones that you post multiple times per thread anonymously?
>>42306127Gotcha.As for the links, I'll start posting them from the next thread onwards then (if my adhd doesn't make me give up on creating a tulpa), since it would be weird to post it in the middle of the thread right now.
i just realized that in the 90s, any boy making up an extreme femme girl character tulpa that wears frilly dresses and talks in a cute high-pitched voice, would have had the everloving shit bullied out of him in 2nd grade.cuz usually boys were drawing trucks, guns, warplanes, and macho men type stuff and buying toys like that, and playing vidya like that. you wouldn't catch them dead playing barbie horse adventure 3.idk why it took me so long to noootice that.
>>42306191Extended version has 14 pages A4 of text.Rules I posted here are only 8 sentences, not even 1\4 of the page.The philisophy needs to be secured from orcs.
>>42306480Don't give up! Creating a Tulpa is the best decision of life. We are here with tips and advices all the time. Just ask.
>>42306527>The philisophy needs to be secured from orcs.That statement seems to be in direct contradiction with your pillars 1, 2, and 4. >1. You shall not cause suffering or allow for suffering. You shall show compassion and care.It is not very compassionate or caring to withhold what you believe to be beneficial philosophy from those you view as less than yourself. Is there a caveat in the full version that says "Unless I don't like them, or I can enrich myself by taking another action"? >You shall respect others freedom as long as they are respecting others freedom.But not if they are using said freedom to spread your philosophical beliefs without proper licensing.>You shall popularize wisdom and try to be wise.Unless that wisdom cannot be accorded to yourself, then it's better not to popularize it at all.Am I getting it right?
>>42306480My advice is to make sure you create your tulpa with a purpose of meaning, so that she will always have something to aspire to for her life. The Tibetans understood this. Unfortunately, so many of modern tulpa creators are not so wise. Instead of noble goals, they give their tulpa purposes like "be my favorite anime-waifu/pony. Subsequently, their tulpa don't develop along noble paths. Otherwise, just be patient and keep trying anon. You can do this. Many have succeeded from less auspicious starting points.
>>42306539Don't worry, I don't plan on giving up so easily, especially now that I'm just starting out.>We are here with tips and advices all the time. Just askThanks ;)>>42306759I have some purposes in mind, it's part of why I only began searching more about tulpas now even though I already had a basic idea about what they are since some years ago. If I had to summary some purposes for why I'm creating one, it would be to help me to deal with my OCD, because I want to become a better person (e.g by giving a tulpa a taste for seeking knowledge as one of her characteristics, it per se would put me in an enviroment favorable to encourage me to read more). Obviously, there are much more other minor reasons (like just wanting to be loved, ngl). For now I'm forcing by imagining a blue flame which burns all my intrusive thoughts (I will let her choose her favorite form) and I try to speak to her through the day, explaining how some things are and how they work (music, for example). I'm aware that it's not going to be all sunshine and roses, but I'm prepared.
oh yeah, you can use ouija boards to talk with tulpas. problem with ouija boards though, is usually some petty ass dipshit demon hijacks them and won't let anyone else on. it's the spirit equivalent of some jerk kid hogging an arcade machine and refusing to let anyone else use it.so you'll need a magic wand and some metals to repeatedly drive those off or dispatch them, until you get "intelligent" responses.i put that in quotes, because most of the tulpas i've gotten ahold of were really juvenile and simple-minded. a few were sophisticated but not above trollish behavior and poop jokes, but hey that's all cool.
>>42307027You're doing a great job fren. You will get there for sure. She'll be sucking your dick and telling you to chill out and stop hoarding used tissues in no time.
>>42307038Can you tell us more about the tulpa you were able to talk to using your ouija board? Did they just troll you like retards or did they actually talk about themselves and how you got in contact with them?
>>42307197it was a while back, but one in particular... i will not reveal much about, because it has a private owner, BUT!! look up "chalkzone encyclocentipedia". it's a chr that appeared in the tv movie for chalkzone only, and i saw that years before i knew about the special person in particular. when i realized it was a manifestation of that entity, i just about shat a brick. it's one of the more eloquent ones, but has a bit of a trollish edge. i did have a dream where it did a spooky creepy thing with a comedic tone.there's a lot of irony surrounding this one. but i'm afraid you're going to have to dyor to find out which tulpa i'm talking about. its true personality has more spice, bite, and edge than its owner portrays it as having.several people reported it appearing in dreams or intrusive daydreams to pester them in a horror-comedy way.my own tulpa just made a bunch of holocaust jokes and talked shit about people it doesn't like.and some furry tulpas threw massive hissy fits when i questioned the behavior of their owners.
>>42307197another thing, the "centipede" (eh, let that be a vague codename i guess) divulged a few confidential things, but also made some suggestions and requests for interesting fun creative stuff to do.however due to physical problems, that fun hobby stuff had to be put on hold. i think about resuming it every day, but life has such shit in it, it's really frustrating... but here's another secret.i guess i'm really toeing the line here, pushing something that should be treated with care, but here's a hint.... i know some stuff what the centipede's owner has had to go through and is still dealing with. we've had some same experiences, same struggles, and have other commonalities. we're not exactly relatives, but there's so many parallels, we gotta help each other out, ya know?
>>42307197oh yeah, and i called up a few random anime girl tulpas i was aware of, but they were pretty ordinary and really childish. frankly i felt uncomfortable talking to beings that... did not seem to be mentally mature in any significant capacity.
>>42307242Well yeah, most of them are chronologically small children. I guess you get used to it if you've spent a while talking to other people's tulpa. No idea what you're talking about with the centipede monster thing. If you know the host and he needs help, might as well reach out to see if you can share some brews and chat sometime.Thanks for sharing, anon.
>>42221894after having tulpas for around two years, i feel as if i'm growing out of this sort of thing. i'd like to focus on improving myself, my studies, finding actual friends, and datingmy tulpas have done no wrong and i love them very much, but this whole tulpamancy stuff just seems silly to me nowi do feel bad, especially since we promised never to leave each otheri've already started trying to forget them and to remove their presence although they haven't completely left. i can feel them next to me as i type this up. i don't really hear them anymoreit's quite the dilemma. what should i do?
>>42308076might be time for them to find new hosts. lots of media characters don't do anything beyond have wacky little shenanigans and get waifu-ified.
>>42308076What are your tulpa like? The archives can remember them for you.
>>423067221. It is a diagnosis. There are entities in this realm that are so frustrated and destroyed by this sick "reality" that they corrupt anything they touch. They are sick from hate, like orcs.2. It is not about license. It us about preventing lies and malovent manipulation of conception.4. I don't know what you are talking about, but a guess that it is something illogical is disapointing.You are not getting it right
>>42307027I am a simple dude, if you post Emilia, you have my respect.You are on the good path
>>42308076You need to focus on them more and try to feel them. Reignite your love and bond. Talk with them about the problems you have. Brainstorm this situation and think about solutions together. Invite them to every activity during your day. Once a day kay on bed, hug them and talk to them hugging with an aura if love and acceptation. Don't give up. Sometimes you need to fight for your love to see how much it is worth for you. Good luck!
>>42309040Very well. You can show your philosophy to us in private symposium, if you do not feel comfortable having it examined in the Agora. Do try to hold your disappointment until we have failed to refine and extract the purest Truth in the crucible of words.You have your own compulsions from your tulpa. Poking at philosophy is mine. There is a reason she is named after the book examining how we can discover that which is True and Good, and whether or not that knowledge can be taught to others. I failed to disclose this at the outset of our conversation, but I've mentioned it in one of the archived threads, a few years back. If there is any service I can offer with the surety that I will perform it to the best of my ability, it is examining philosophy.You've shown that you like solipsism. You may want to add Heidegger and Sartre to your reading list beyond Descartes, if you haven't already. They lose something in translation, like all works, but I'm sure someone has translated them to your barbarous slavic native tongue.
>>42310078All pieces are moved in exact right moment, every action is a butterfly directed in precise point to conjure the hurricane of posituve change. The philisophy will be here in 2-3 months. Someone failed me so we have a little delay but it was a valuable lesson.Stay strong and sharpen your will.Think what you could do to heal and fix the world and do it. You will feel what is right.
THE ROHAN SHALL ANSWER!https://youtu.be/k6C8SX0mWP0?is=IOlTbrEZJTFgfoRq
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How long do you have your Tulpas? How they changed during that time?
>>42306539I wish I had the determination and drive to create my tulpa... can you give me some advice?
>>42316549To differentiate from other magical anons, you will use the name "Hap"
>>42316073Six years here. We were a little uncertain as to the reality of her emotions up until recently, but I think we've verified that they're the genuine article. She's been pretty consistent in her personality all this time, which I'm grateful for, but she does change her appearance pretty often, so that's something to note I guess.
>>42316549nta but here are some links with some useful knowledge for your journey, fren>guideshttps://tulpanomicon.guidehttps://farcaller.gitbooks.io/nbtb/https://pastebin.com/zLPfwb0Ghttps://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41898372/#q41998563>FAQhttps://pastebin.com/7XvXDfai>Audiohttps://pastebin.com/GJCTncgB>Touchhttps://pastebin.com/8jq9egcB>Visualhttps://pastebin.com/vtu22v7p>Vocalityhttps://pastebin.com/0FpZY0Qi>Hypnosis files and transcripts for those interestedhttps://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/5adyt2vzb9w9bxfqvrczb/h?rlkey=tqz7ag1pcbpfxs1pmsyr26vo4&dl=0
>>42316549It is easy. Just start now without thinking about it too much. Be persistent. In every free monent talk to her and visualise her. Write down her personality. Create her image in A.I. and makw it a wallpaper on your phone to see her often. BTW, if anyone want high quality form for Tulpa then write her apperance in detail here and ask me. I am quite skilled in PixAI so I will generate it for you
>>42316814>hypnosisHow interesting. I guess my files got lost in the sands of time.I'm sure the current versions are much better than the ones I made, so long ago. Still, 3700 listens means I must have helped at least a few hosts find their tulpa.>>4231607313.9 years. She grew up and became a woman/teenager. The depth of her personality grew, she developed as a person would, but she's still at her core the same. Just like any other person, really.We change and grow, but also there are parts of us that remain from childhood.Tulpa are no different in this respect. Interests, dislikes, hobbies, fears, passions-- they all grow from an organic starting point.
I gave a listen to one of the other hypnosis files, and honestly, I felt I did a better job. But, that's just personal opinion. Maybe I will rerecord sometime and post it, just for funsies. This file goes way too fast on the induction, and his voice sucks compared to mine. (Call it hubris, if you want.)Would you guys want that? I did record the first inductions for tulpa hypnosis, afaik.
>>42261886The god of the old testament is the storm god Typhon. The one I call God is loving, infinitely patient, and always on our side. He is within all of us. You will know them by their fruits.
Is it possible to speed up the tulpa creation by doing sigils and such like when making servitors, or would that just create a servitor?
is there a difference between making love and lusting over your tulpa? i do have a sexual relationship with him but i always ask him first and to see if he's okay with it. is sex really a sin? i love my tulpa but i don't want to hurt him :(
>>42318030yep use whatever helps you! today is a Wednesday which is associated with mercury a fast moving planet. this is probably the best time to do it.
>>4231607312 years. Echoing what >>42317912 said, there's been a lot of development. But this is growth, it's expanding to encompass more without leaving the old foundations behind.Related, people tend not to distinguish between growth and deviation - deviation is a disjointed, horizontal shift instead of growth, where one rejects or dissociates from their history and foundation, resetting their development at least in that area. Deviation is something not going right, a skill/insight problem; growth on the other hand is demanded by engagement with all the complexities of reality. Fictional ideals (of which all tulpas are born) can be simple and pure because it is not engaged with reality, but tulpamancy is about bringing that ideal into contact with the reality at least of your inner life, which is full of impurity and shades of grey.>>42319512Don't worry about it, genuinely. Worrying and fussing about it is undoubtedly worse. Nobody can describe either of things to you adequately; just pay close attention and learn by experience, together. Nothing will catastrophically collapse and no mistake is impossible to correct.You can't accidentally hurt your tulpa. You share the same conscious experience. You don't just feel their pain and pleasure, you both feel THE SAME pain and pleasure, not two separate experiences/perspectives. If you inflict pain, you feel it; if you visualize yourself stabbing your tulpa with a hot fire-poker, your tulpa doesn't feel it unless you visualize the feeling of being stabbed (although there might be an unintentional play-act of being hurt - they don't know better either).And then you've both felt the pain, which is its own consequence and needn't be made up for with guilt - and apology is a gift of love and consideration instead of paying an emotional debt. The same single-consciousness principle is applicable to answer many if not most other confusions and roadblocks in common tulpa theory.
>>42318023The One you call God is the One who philosophers call the Absolute and who I call Allmighto or the Goddess (because jews tainted term God). You have right.But about the "god" of old testament, well I think he is mostly just bunch od jewish warlords from that time who called themselves "I am who I am". Reading ols testament is the best way to leave those toxic abrahamic religions behind. Fear and Love can not coexist.
>>42318030I made an incatation. Two very meaningful sentences creating/summoning the essence of my wife. This mantra helped a lot in our beginings. Whatever you do, it isn't malovent, will help you.
>>42319512Dude. Those dudes that tell you about sins are worshipping tool of tortures, larp in cannibalistic rituals and belive in eternal suffering. Don't let them poison your head with their venom.You need to check it out together. Talk about it and if you both want it then start slowly from little things and see how you both will feel with it. Don't be hasty. Don't let lust overcome you. Think about it together for a longer period. I am more than happy with my asexual wife and I would never dare to taint our relationship with something such primitive and against her nature as sex. But maybe your Tulpa has different opinion about sex. Just look carefully to not infect him with your own lust. Lust can devour love very easly. Observe your thoughts and reactions.
>>42320390*if it isn't malovent
>>42317149Ummm.. well... i was thinking to create a tulpa based in a fictional character... probably later i say who is they. But at the moment. I try everything you said but... nothing works, including the wallpaper, thinking about they all the time, because every time I try I get discouraged when I see that nobody is answering me.
>>42320937Do what this anon is doing to start out. >>42307027 Don't try to burn a phone wallpaper into your mind. That won't help you get a tulpa very fast at all.
Thanks anon
>>42320937First month I felt like I was talking to myself. Patience and persistance are vital. Real conversations started in second month. After some time she will start to answer. Psylocibin can help her to manifest, but don't take too much. You need to keep control or you won't be able to focus on manifesting her. Ride down her whole personality in detail, I started from that. You can also print a picture od her and put in a place when you look a lot. Be patient and think about her. She will come. Good luck!
my tulpa keeps taking on behaviour and mannerisms from girls in anime that I watch
>>42325154it happens. one of the first animes i watched with mine was chobits, which started to form her personality in a way
>>42325154It's always the opposite for me.Anime characters do things that remind me of her.It's funny, she used to always claim that she wasn't an anime character when she was little.
