Has anyone else been looking into hell testimonies? There are a lot of testimonies by people who were warned about hell in some shape or form, such as through a near-death experience.I'm aware there are youtube channels with NDEs where people claim there was only peace and no judgement when they crossed to the other side, but I think it's important to do research and find out what the actual truth may be, and avoid any kind of deception.There are also those who claim that this world is some kind of soul-harvesting trap, where people are tricked by nefarious beings into reincarnating back here, but those who believe in this never actually have a solution as to how to escape this supposed soul trap. They just make vague claims about attaining "gnosis" (knowledge) or affirming your "sovereignty" and using your will and imagination to try to escape after you die. Does that sound credible?What would you want to place your bets on? From everything I've researched, I'm definitely choosing Christianity to avoid not just hell, but also demonic oppression while on earth.
>>42230303I had a creepy dream once I still remember it was like I was in a graveyard like the scene was similar to the movie evil dead and it was like I was in the ground the mud but there was a dreary vibe everywhere and my old gf was there with me.When I started thinking about it I came to the conclusion that might have been sheol. It was depressing but it wasn't super doom feeling I still had hope
>>42230336That may have been a warning dream from God that you were/are on the wrong path. When I first made my serious attempt at becoming Christian some time in 2021, I received an elaborate nightmare that made it clear that the devil deeply hates me and knows my weaknesses. In the nightmare, God sent two angels to distract the devil (who merely appeared as an evil human) as I picked up a conveniently-placed rifle from the ground and shot him in the eye, finally ending the torment he was putting me under.I've since received different kinds of dreams that I believe are from God, including a scene where a bunch of far-leftist-looking types were gathered in a place and then suddenly got struck by a raging inferno, their skin and flesh horrifically melting off. There was a guy that I knew represented me as a sort of avatar within the dream, whom I saw escape the inferno by jumping into a river. After I woke up and analyzed the dream, I knew the river had to represent being baptized by the Holy Spirit. There's also this relevant verse:"On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to Me and drink. Whoever believes in Me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” By this He meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified." (John 7:37-39, NIV)
For anyone wanting to research hell testimonies, I recommend this channel the most:https://www.youtube.com/@TouchingTheAfterlife/videos"But people who are cowardly, unfaithful, detestable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars will find themselves in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.”" (Revelation 21:8, ISV)
>>42230303Hell is not real because you're already in it. You will experience this realm endlessly until you find your way out. If you have a soul and aren't a hylic. Archons are known to fuck with your head, so they very well might show you visions of heaven or hell on NDE.This place is already shit, why would you need to be sent somewhere else to be tortured? The modern idea of the Christian hell didn't exist until Dante's Infero anyway. Gnostic tradition about the soul loops goes back to at least first century AD. And Samsara in eastern tradition goes back thousands of years. Buddah was before Christianity.I wouldn't trust Jews.Oh and Gnosis is just western enlightenment BTW. Try the eighthfold path. It's easy to understand but difficult to achieve.
>>42230510The Bible makes it clear that hell is a place of eternal torment, and there's at least one passage that makes it clear that there are greater degrees of punishment vs. lesser degrees.You're definitely right that "archons" mess with us in this world. They are demons who serve the devil and his goal is to lead you astray so you'll be damned alongside him. And the entire buddhist/hindu reincarnation belief doesn't make sense. How are you supposed to learn and grow if your memory gets wiped each time you reincarnate?Here's a relevant testimony by a former buddhist who was living in sin and went to hell and was saved by Jesus, and is living a completely transformed life now for the better:Buddhist Commits Suicide And Goes To Hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1i66xR5B2Q
>>42230303>How to avoid going to hell?be free of sin
Just being "Christian" is not enough to get you out of hell. In order to be saved one must be baptized, have the Catholic faith, and die in a state of grace. Outside the Catholic Church there is no Salvation.
>>42230663>Whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Romans 10:13)
>>42230303>Does that sound credible?Yes. If you want the easy answer then stick with your christianity and keep following its dogmas and stop thinking about us once and for all. Don't you realize that you must realize the truth for yourself? If you want the easy answer, the easy way, "oh, just believe in Christ, bro, and you are saved, bro, trust me, bro, Jesus is Lord" then live it. Stop wasting our times with your stupid ass questions. Religions like christianity are popular exactly because they give your all the answers for thr tough questions. Why are we here? Because of God. What is the purpose of life? To serve God. But why God needs to be served? Because He is so fucking good!! Come on, man. I'm joking a little bit, but it is a serious argument. Religions like christianity provide easy answers which is the thing which you seem to want. While thigns like gnosticism will trust that you will do your homework and realize the triuth for yourself. Gnostics have this crazy notion that a person can actually use one's brain and think for oneself and not be a sheep, you know? Not have to be guided like an animal who doesn't know where it is or an animal who doesn't know its way around and needs to be guided. Come on. If this is your argument, that gnostics provides no answers and so christianity or whatever gay ass religion like it is the truth then so be it. Go be a fucking christian and see where that will lead you. Good luck.
>>42230547Your goal isn't to learn lessons. That's gay new age shit. You're reincarnating here probably as a punishment. And archons are what you would call demons yes. They feed on your emotions. Your loosh.Some say you don't have to achieve enlightenment/gnosis. You can just tell them to fuck off after you die and not go into the light. That everything has to be agreed upon and consented to. Which actually fits the legends of like demons signing contracts, so maybe there's something to that.I don't know. If I've died and reincarnated I don't remember. Same as you.Ive also heard Archons will show you whatever you expect to see. If you belive in Jesus you might see him, buddah, you might see him. Your passed loved ones, a spirt guide ect. All those entities are just Archons and convince you that you will have to go back. They also could should you where you expect to go. Heaven/Hell ect. Or whatever your religious idea is. But it's all illusion so you'll come back here and they can keep feeding. They're parasites.What convince me a out the hell stuff not being real is the jews don't belive in it. They don't have a concept of hell or the devil like the Christians do. And their faith predates Christianity. If there was a god that set up a universe and created a world with established realms and entities, seems like he would tell his chosen people about them when he first appears to them. Not something that is developed centuries later.If you're curious about this just put in stuff like "do jews belive in hell" and "do jews belive in the devil" and you should get YouTube videos of them explaining what they believe.
>>42230582I have to assume this is a troll reply since it's impossible for anyone to never sin. However, we must strive to do our best to not sin as we walk on the Christian path. I myself have sadly struggled repeatedly to permanently overcome certain sin habits, but I will not give up."Good people might fall again and again, but they always get up. It is the wicked who are defeated by their troubles." (Proverbs 24:16, ERV)For any holy music enthusiasts, I highly recommend this beautiful holy music that is tuned in 432Hz:Gregorian Chants - Gregorian Chant for Healinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2MfVktfYFU"He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds." (Psalm 147:3, NIV)
>>42230303Gain more power and ability than any ''God'' that would attempt to subject you to one is one way I suppose.
I abstained from fornication and hanging out with Atheists, but in this great lent i didn't manage to quit eating meat. How big of a sin is this? Today is good friday for us orthodox people
>>42230663There are plenty of reasons to believe that Protestants and Orthodox Christians are saved as well. Just look at their testimonies of being saved and having their lives transformed by our Lord and Savior.Here's a testimony channel that by the looks of it is entirely Protestants who have been saved:https://www.youtube.com/@delafetestimonies/videos
>>42230303From what I've been told it's not complicated. If you have malice, resentment, or regret, then don't. That all what it takes.
>>42230678Please be careful not to fall into what is referred to as easy believism, which is thinking that you'll be saved if you merely intellectually assent to the gospel.Repentance, surrender to Christ's lordship, and a transformed life are required."Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to follow Me, he must deny himself, pick up his cross, and follow Me continuously." (Matthew 16:24, ISV)
>>42230663>Purgatory>Filioque>Papal Infallibility>Original Sin (Ancestral Sin)>Immaculate ConceptionOnly Orthodoxy can save you, start reading up the church fathers and inform yourself about the great schism
>>42230695I think you're that fellow who posted in my previous thread, which was about the matrix soul trap belief. You're only making a futile attempt at mocking and trying to denigrate Christianity while providing no substantial methods for escaping the alleged soul trap. Are you just going to waste your life telling yourself that you're somehow on the right path while clearly being clueless? There are plenty of reasons to turn to Jesus, but you cannot provide even one real reason to chase after "gnosis"."Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the Lord and depart from evil." (Proverbs 3:7, NKJV)Please do not ignore hell testimonies. A lot of people have been warning that there are eternal consequences for rejecting God and pretending you can be your own god.
>>42230708Do you realize that you don't even have any firm beliefs? You're just guessing some things are *maybe* true. You're just going off of personal opinions and feelings. It would be foolish to risk going to hell based on that.The Word of God tells us:"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to Him, and He will make your paths straight." (Proverbs 3:5-6, NIV)Sure enough, countless people have found out that trusting God and submitting to His will leads to actual direction and fulfillment in life.
>>42230303>How to avoid going to hell?never kick a cat
>>42230303>How to avoid going to hell?Hell doesn't really exist in the way you think lol>There are also those who claim that this world is some kind of soul-harvesting trap, where people are tricked by nefarious beings into reincarnating back here, but those who believe in this never actually have a solution as to how to escape this supposed soul trapWe are soul trapped by the cube on Saturn to keep suffering here on planet Earth. There is no real escape from it. Its basically just us being raped by inter-dimensional beings over and over.
>>42230858>ave to assume this is a troll reply since it's impossible for anyone to never sinJesus died for your sins, so all you have to do is confess to them and you will be fine o algo
>>42230935Bullshit. John 3:16.
>>42231390I'm just honest. I've never seen the supernatural personally or what's beyond. Neither have you.And you can't really threaten people woth hell when they know they're already trapped there. Even the salvation mythology could be an interpretation of escaping the rebirth cycle. Jesus being the path out.Early Christianity was filled with gnostic movements after all, it's safe to assume Jesus himself held some of those ideas.Mythology is more important than literal truth though. You look for patterns. Stories being repeated throughout histroy and across cultures. I do think there's something to Jesus. The cycle of rebirth. But it is a cycle. So I think you keep going around until you find your way out.I don't doubt that Jesus has helped you and others, he was a man far beyond his time. Just don't close yourself off to other perspectives or learning from other traditions. I aways look for a central pattern.
>>42231907And you are right. I don't subscribe to a pre defined belief system. But that is on purpose. I take in everything I can, study the world, see how those beliefs align with it. Is everything coherent and makes sense to me? I can form my own belief structure, I don't need someone else to dictate it too me. And I don't belive anyone has gotten it 100% right either.I recognize that every book is written by a man, and that men are fallible. Just because somone says the have a monopoly on truth or claims to talk to god, dose'nt automatically make it true.
>>42230303oh please you'll be reincarnated like everyone else.
>>42230303>how to not go to hellDestroy/unmake/kill what ever it is that has intent on giving you a hell? Is that the answer? Or is it perhaps, create a heaven and reside there instead? I ask you I suppose, but I assume you don't actually know the answer and you're also not looking for an answer... just automated.
Just live a good and straight life. Have empathy and be not afraid to make use of it at all times. Consider everything in the creation with love and care, even the smallest being as if it was you or an extention of your self. There are three sins that will condemn you to hell. Suicide, messing with kids and murder in cold blood.It's ok to sin a little as long as you learn from it and fix your behaviour but better if avoided altogether. Your soul knows instinctively what is a sin.Never completely reject God, or whatever you want to call it. When your time comes and nothing is left, you'll see God is all there is.
>>42230303If you are asking that question then you already have a place in Heaven. Live your life and help nature, all of God's creations.
God would never actually tell us or we would start optimizing for the "test" criteria instead of just being us. He gave us some basic rules, but outside those its up to us.
Random anon here, found this thread interesting, and I'm just gonna say this:I had demonic encounters. Scariest shit of my life. I don't want to elaborate, but yeah, demons are real. Therefore angels and God are real. And in my demonic encounters, I asked God to save me, and he did, even though I don't deserve it... Yeah, Christianity is real. Hell is real :/Hope this helps anyone here struggling with faith, and would love to talk more about this...
>>42231448Please stop believing in self-defeating nonsense. I suspect you're wanting to believe there is no hope and no salvation possible because you wish to continue to not put any effort in finding out what the actual truth may be, telling yourself that you can't do anything to be saved and thus giving yourself license to live a life of sin. Please don't throw away your life and soul.>>42231449>>42231821Please read James 2:14-26.Faith without works is dead. The Word of God calls for daily living of faith through love, service, and obedience rather than passive belief.
>>42231907This world is definitely not hell. Please don't ignore all of the testimonies of people receiving a glimpse of hell so that they could warn others.And it is false that early Christians were gnostics. Gnostic texts were never considered part of the gospel. Please see this video by Wes Huff:No ancient list of Gospels includes Gnostic texts https://www.youtube.com/shorts/J1Q71bG5uZI
>>42231944You are speaking from pride. Anyone who observes humanity honestly can tell that we are deeply flawed and naturally prone to foolishness on our own. You are trying to dismiss the Bible as having been written by fallible men so that you can ignore the call for repentance and submission to God.Please take the time to watch this testimony, it is very important:Atheist dies, meets Jesus, and is shown a wide variety of the torments in hell as a warninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZPZyYvgoM
>>42233461Had a demon encounter in 2019 everything is real and they are nothing but pure evil "my mouth was shut I couldn't spear when it grabbed me I was powerless but I called out to Jesus and once the word slipped it disappeared"
>>42231960Why should we believe that when the evidence for Jesus being the truth is so abundant?"You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart." (Jeremiah 29:13, HCSB)https://www.youtube.com/@YeshuaTestimonies/videos
>>42230303Dude quit asking like you're asking a legitimate question when this is just another dump thread for you and your discord christcuck buddies.Just because you guys are incapable of understanding the nuances of history or esoteric symbolism/stories doesn't mean the rest of us are. If you wanna post YouTube links, I will too. Try and refute this. https://youtu.be/gJ6MYMSUcgg?si=ZmSmQonSs8rN_g3R
>>42230303NDE's are 90% lies, not told by those who experience them, but to them. In reality they are scared of you, so much so that they HAVE to put you into these bodies to have any kind of power over you. They would not fight you fair, so instead they indoctrinate you and hope you consent to their scam when you are in the position to hurt them.
>>42233979Wes huff seems like a good dude, i actually like him. But he is a Christian apologist. He's already starting from a conclusion. He's then making arguments that support that conclusion. Basically, he has a stated bias. And I know, you agree and align with his bias, so you don't see the problem.>And it is false that early Christians were gnosticsThis is just a false statement. There were definitely multiple sects of early Christians that we today define as gnostic. We have some of their texts, and there's historical records of them. We know that they existed. And I know you wouldn't consider them Christians by today's modern version of Christianity, but they did. They would have simply called themselves Christians. The modern version of Christianity didn't exist yet.And this is not to say that ALL early Christian groups held what we define as gnostic beliefs today. That isn't true either . The turth is that there was no established canon in the first and second century. There was no "Bible". There were multiple sects of Christians with differing ideas. There wasn't even a trinity yet. And the gnostic sects were popular. And Marcion, who wasn't a gnostic mind you, set up his own churches and they were rivaling the Orthodox sect.And to address the actual point he's making. About no list including vostic gospels. Yeah, obviously. The orthodox sect wasn't very big fans of any rival sect.But this idea of lists, didn't exist. There wasn't an established official canon, a New Testament until 397. Almost 400 years after the death of Jesus. Why would I just take the word and the established canon of men 400 years later, when I can read all the avaliable texts myself and draw my own conclusions? And I'm going to read them. Study them. All of them. Without a pre concived notion about what is true. I'm going to read what other say about them. Both bias and unbiased sources. Including Wes BTW, I have seen this video. And once again, draw my own conclusion.
>>42234004Yeah I'm not submitting the Baal, buddy. Sorry. No god worthy of my devotion requires my submission. And to be clear there is a difference between submission and bowing in humbleness and humility. I completely get what you're saying about pride and ego, and setting that aside. Recognizing the flaws in humanity. But you chose the word Submission. Which is a manifestation of that flaw. Therefore any god that requires submission is not worthy of humility.This is the real problem with Christianity, because Jesus is humble and worthy of praise, and Baal demands submission, blood sacrifice, and worship. And Christianity demands that you accept that both of these are the dame and worthy of praise.But I carry original sin. I have the knowledge of good and evil. I have the gift of the gods, moral judgement. And because of that, I can jidge the morality of a god.Christianity is a human test. If you submit to Baal, you are unworthy of the Kingom of Heaven.
>>42234342NTAMeek: quiet, gentle, and easily imposed on; submissive.Someday you will understand that they all serve the same master. Growth for growth's sake. One voice speaks softly, and the other speaks your language, but they come from the same person.
>>42234475What is it you're trying to say exactly anon. What's my language?
>>42230872Dear friend, life isn't some kind of anime or video game. We cannot gain the ability to become like God. And there is only one true God, and only one way to gain entry to His Kingdom, and that's by believing in and following Jesus Christ."Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6, NIV)Here's yet another testimony channel, please watch at least a few videos:https://www.youtube.com/@Lyftedpodcast/videos
>>42234508>What's my language?PowerThe power to change things here, or the power to seriously hurt youI might not be talking about you specifically, but for a lot of people that is the sole reason for their faith. It's called "god-fearing" for a reason. Say I wanted you to do what I want. I'd probably hire someone to tempt you into not doing what I want, and then fuck you up for that. Then people would have an example of what happens when they don't do what I want. Power does not always earn love, but it earns respect. The promise of redemption and forgiveness earns love, but it does not always earn respect. These two together are a perfect combination.
>>42230894The Bible does not forbid eating meat. I've done research into veganism and I can definitely tell you that it's very unhealthy. There are testimonies online of people going on the carnivore diet and their health vastly improving. Please look into it for yourself.>>42230919God's standard is higher than that though. There are testimonies of people who became badly demonically oppressed by sexually sinning. God commands us in His Word to flee from sexual immorality.And we cannot simply earn our way into heaven by being good. We need to trust in what Jesus did for us on the cross, and submit to His will."Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”" (Acts 4:12, NIV)
It's not real.You retards think there's a fucking inescapable torture pit you get flung into because you touched your weiner?You faggots are literally insane
A big man can be meek, and be "a gentle giant"People sympathize with him, because he has all that power and chooses to use it wiselyA big man can be a dickhead, and be "a great leader", because he has all that power. What are we gonna do about it? May as well listen or we'll get hurt too. A little man can be meek, and be "a pushover". He's only being nice because he's afraid. He'd probably be evil if he had any power. A little man can be a dickhead, and be "an evil man"For shame. Napoleon complex much... He's bitter because he's powerless. kek let's give him a taste of his own medicine.This is how retarded humans sound to me. We are painfully simple. A bunch of if then statements.
>>42231000God bless you, but there is too much evidence that God loves and saves Protestants and Catholics as well.Please consider watching this insightful video by Redeemed Zoomer:10 Reasons I'm NOT Eastern Orthodoxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q7AwaLMJSo
>>42230303First of all, the overwhelming majority of mankind goes to hell, temporarily. Though maybe time there goes differently. You go to hell when you have unfinished business here, such as attachments and unexpressed desires or fears or anger. In hell you replay those in a similar way like a nightmare. There isn't real physical suffering but like a nightmare there's frustration because you never win. It's not eternal and you'll get out of there, to be reincarnated
>>42231984Human beings obviously do not have the ability to destroy or create a heaven or hell. There is sadly a lot of pride and delusion on this board, where people wish to believe that they have special powers. When I was a child, I used to enjoy fantasizing about having powers as well, but it's time to grow up and realize that we have a choice to make: to stand with God or against Him."A man in this world must solve a problem: to be with Christ, or to be against Him. And every man decides this, whether he wants to or not. He will either be a lover of Christ or a fighter of Christ. There is no third option." - St. Justin Popovich
>>42230500Bunch of crap, there is no heaven and no hell. You are the awarness, you tune on a frequency with you heart and that is.
>>42232074I'm going to listen to what God says is a sin in His Word. Not go by my own or anyone else's personal opinions.We cannot decide for ourselves what is good and evil. We can have some idea, but it is more than obvious when you go look around the world that human beings are naturally inclined to be evil because of our fallen nature.Not to mention that plenty of people have found out the hard way that sin leads to suffering and demonic oppression and eventually eternal damnation. Yes, that includes sexual sins >>42234767I died as a Christian but porn sent me to hellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1I7hfazEiY
>>42233243We must live our life as according to the Scriptures. It makes sense that God Almighty knows how we ought to live, rather than sinful man."Mankind, He has told each of you what is good and what it is the Lord requires of you: to act justly, to love faithfulness, and to walk humbly with your God." (Micah 6:8, CSB)"Don’t become like the people of this world. Instead, change the way you think. Then you will always be able to determine what God really wants—what is good, pleasing, and perfect." (Romans 12:2, GW)
>>42233259God tells us exactly what He expects of us in His Word. It's not a guessing game."We must not get tired of doing good. We will receive our harvest of eternal life at the right time. We must not give up. When we have the opportunity to do good to anyone, we should do it. But we should give special attention to those who are in the family of believers." (Galatians 6:9–10, ERV)
>>42235960Porn never mentioned in the bible and yet the actual adutlerers and whore's were forgiven by Jesus, literally following a thought form/egregore of MURICA JAYSUS got him demdatty'd to hell.Call them out with scripture next time and tell them 2k before internet you complete stoopniggle(you make karate kirk aka tom hanks from happy days 1983 look less cringe).
>>42236360Touching yourself to images of fornication is obviously a sexual sin. Jesus said that if you lust after someone you're not married to, you've committed adultery with them in your heart.Another relevant video:How Sexual Sins Create a Gateway for Demonic Possessionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_xOSlwg_-s
