Taking the assumption that Jesus was not a historical figure, and never literally existed, how would you answer the following:How and why did Christianity come to be?Would it still be possible to practice a mystic, allegorical version of Christianity?Would it still be possible to find value in the life and teachings of Jesus?
>>42231282>How and why did Christianity come to be?Well today when someone is in contact with the divine, tested by satan, has to sacrifice himself for other souls, because he is God in flesh, that's called psychosis. Not saying it isn't real, just saying Jesus wasn't the first one experiencing this, it's rather common actually. People back then didn't have psychiatry (thank God!) so they didn't just surpress this with heavy meds but got to live it out and tell others about it and gather a little cult following, many such cases. So what I'm getting at:Jesus is the distilled version of all those ancient schizoposts culminated in one person. >Would it still be possible to practice a mystic, allegorical version of Christianity?Sure, Gnosis is awesome, it's just that not only Jesus gets to experience it but in practice everyone who seeks.>Would it still be possible to find value in the life and teachings of Jesus?Sure, the teachings are very valuable and all stem from truthful experience with the divine.
>>42231282Maybe I'm autistic and just don't understand what you are getting at, but do you think Dionysus was a real guy?
>>42231349No, I don't believe Dionysus was real.I also don't believe Jesus was real.My point is that the vast majority of modern day christians make it a fundamental aspect of their belief that Jesus literally existed as a historical person.
>>42231354I tried starting a discussion about this topic in the Christian Esotericism General and they absolutely weren't having it.
>>42231358I find it kind of funny but also sad, often those kind of "Christians" ignore the teachings (see Republicans) while wearing "Jesus" like a trademark (often around their neck in gold, something the bible also forbids)They climb the sign post instead of folowing the path it points towards. They are silly, but also sad, because they are getting nowhere.
>>42231282Everything in the Bible are fables and myths that were appropriated by kikes and they are not to be taken literally.Christ's death and resurrection WERE his "baptism". John the Baptist represents Kronos. John the Baptist was decapitated, like Kronos is represented as a skull and bones. John the Baptist is also depicted as disheveled and hairy and "wild" like the wild man, like the Green Man, like Pan, like Veles. Veles is clearly Odin and Ymir and Cernunnos and Kronos and Hades. Veles is Pangu. Veles is Tiamat. Raped Western minds refer to him as Satan. Hades is the chaos that precedes creation. Reincarnation is real. Hades is a crossroads.Christianity is extremely bastardized Mithraism. Christ is Mithra. The wheel of Mithras is the swastika. The swastika is Thor's Hammer and Thor's Hammer is Perun's Axe.In Hades reside the Annunaki who are the sons of God who bred with the fair daughters of men. They are the Reptilians that these abrahamists slander. They call them the fallen angels. The book of Enoch claims there was a specific subset of humanity that the fallen angels bred with and taught everything for example metalworking, music The Scythians claimed descent from a serpentine goddess named Artimpasa who fell into the Dnieper River. Aryans are said to have discovered metal-working. Artimpasa is clearly Lucifer in the Jewish sense because Artimpasa is Venus and Aphrodite and Ishtar. The Scythians are the original Aryans who conquered India and gave them the caste system and Buddhism as the Buddha was a Scythian with blonde hair and blue eyes. The Vedas speak of white gods. The native Americans speak of white gods. Black African shamans paint their skin white to emulate the gods.And it was Scythians who were alleged by ancient Roman and even Jewish historians to have built the Tower of Babel.Jews equate Aryans with Esau-Edom. In their story Jacob was the usurper and Esau was the rightful heir.
>>42231282>How and why did Christianity come to be?It is a flavor of Judaism made up by slaves and spread through major trading routes. Its kinda like how people online larp stoicism in the face of systematic oppression by the elite. >Would it still be possible to practice a mystic, allegorical version of Christianity?If you want>Would it still be possible to find value in the life and teachings of Jesus?Do people find value in the teachings of any other philosopher?
>>42231282>Taking the assumption that Jesus was not a historical figure, and never literally existed...This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist.>John 4:23
>>42231282How did Zurvanism come to be? How the cult of the Bacchantes? Was there ever really a John Frum?All true Christian practice is mystical and allegorical.
>>42231392A real comparative mythologist would back some of this up with explanations regarding actual parallels in the mythic narratives, and if he wanted to be taken seriously would go further and attempt to show shared conceptual origin through the migration of ancient peoples.I'm going to refer you to page 1 of the Technical Dictionary of Dn & Scn:>A=A=A, 1. anything equals anything equals anything. This is the way the reactive mind thinks, irrationally identifying thoughts, people, objects, experiences, statements, etc., with one another where little or no similarity actually exists. (Scn AD) 2. all differences are probably identities and all identities are different and all similarities are imaginary. We have a broad dissertation on this in Dianetics: the Modern Science of Mental Health as it affects insane behavior. Everything is everything else. Mr. X looks at a horse, knows it’s a house, knows it’s a school teacher, so when he sees a horse he is respectful. (HCO PL 26 Apr 70R) 3. this is the behavior of the reactive mind. Everything is identified with everything on a certain subject. (PDC 20)
>>42231354But if you understand that religions can and do form around individuals who don't exist then why do you need to ask questions you know the answer to?
>>42231563I'd like to hear other people's opinions on the topic.I'd like to hear from people who practice an allegorical form of Christianity.I find it interesting how modern day Christians place such a large emphasis on Jesus being a historical person.
>>42231557Did you know that I'm better than you?
>demons and midwits try to confuse and obfuscate truth for the 246379642642nd timeboring post, nice try (not really). Jesus is King
>>42231282Etruscans Atlantis original Spartans trojans.et were christian catholics
>>42231282https://youtu.be/gJ6MYMSUcgg?si=1g8PMgLAWiFS9SSFhttps://www.allreligionsareone.org/the%20Bible.htmlhttps://www.allreligionsareone.org/past3.html
>>42231282>How and why did Christianity come to beThere was a movement in Judaism, Merkovah mysticism, that sought to mystically find a way to escape one's fate in Hades / Sheol and enter the heavenly palaces/ Jews interpret Sheol now symbolically to represent death, back then they didn't.This led to mystical practices of working with angels and asceticism to transform one's inner nature, and learning "secrets." One of these "secrets" was the identity of the mysterious "Angel of the Lord" in the Old Testament, who, in the Merkovah Apocryphal "Enoch 3," claims to be Enoch from the Old Testament who ascended to become the "lesser Yahweh." This multiplicity of Yahweh idea would continue with Philo of Alexandria, a Hellenized Jew who invented the idea of the Logos. It isn't crazy to think that one cult that knew the secret identity of the Heavenly Messiah / Angel of the Lord would take off. The name "Yeshua" can also be spelled with one additional letter to "Yahweh," making it a secret mystical name of Yahweh, see pic-related.The cult probably fabricated the life of its founder to compete with other cults that claimed their founder actually existed and founded a lineage - Orphism, Mithraism, Medean mysteries, etc. >Would it be possible to practice a mystic, allegorical version of Christianity>Would it still be possible to find value in the life and teachings of Jesus It's a false dichotomy anyways because while most historians think that Jesus did exist, most historians also think that the events of the Gospel are mythological anyways, obviously taking motifs from the Old Testament and Greek mythology (e.g., Dionysus being miraculously born of the virgin priestess Semele through non-sexual pregnancy by Zeus and giving birth to a half man half-god son of the father of the gods). So any form of Christianity is necessarily mythological. Christians are literally THE gatekeepers because they themselves deep down know what they believe in isn't true.
>>42237331This pic-related
>>42237331>>42237338Also, the idea of the Trinity was ripped straight out of Platonism's Triad. Again, through gatekeeping, Christians maliciously translate "Triad" in Greek into "Trinity" in order to prevent intellectual inquirers into figuring out where the idea of the "Triad" comes from.But you can't really escape that when you use Greek sources - Saint Gregory Palamas has a book called "The Triads," referencing THE Triad, or the Trinity.
>>42237357>Christians maliciously translate "Triad" in Greek into "Trinity"Where? Translate what text?
>>42237331Philo didn't invent the Logos, Heraclitus did.
>>42231392> And it was Scythians who were alleged by ancient Roman and even Jewish historians to have built the Tower of Babel.The tower of Babel is a metaphor to the ascension. God destroyed the tower because Men weren't supposed to enter the kingdom : is a key. That indicate you need to sacrifice the Man inside of you (the one attached to earthly desires and urges) so the Son of Man (Man without Ego) can raise and ascend inside of you.
>>42231282Jesus is the biggest tool to keep people enslaved. He's the symbol for spiritual amnesia. I don't know who or what I am, or where I came from or why I: here, but I heard Jesus was the way, so I'll believe in him. And that wasn't Jesus's goal. If you love Jesus you live like him, you don't use him as a shield or a weapon.
>>42231282The story works on multiple levels, but one of its most practical uses is as a map of inner governance. The crowd, the adversary, the healer, the kingdom, these can all be read as structures within the mind. The task isn’t to choose between symbol and logic, but to hold both without being ruled by either. When awareness can feel fully without being overwhelmed, and think clearly without becoming rigid, something stabilizes.
