if after death is nothingess, then what will you exprience? how can you exprience nothingess? how can you not exprience anymore?
>>42232338what did you experience before you were born?
>>42232356my experience started with me being born, so i didn't expreience nothing, even when i sleep you could say i experience nothing but that nothingness stop when i wake up so like i am always concious, so it's weird to think what infinite oblivion would be like
>>42232375Imagine going into oblivion but you keep spiraling down your lives getting worse each reset until you literally implode into black goo being used as an eternal battery where you scream eternally but no one except yourself hears you uwu
Your brain is a device responsible for filtering absolute reality and showing only what is necessary for the survival of the ego.Death is that when you lose this device, reality becomes unfiltered for you, similar to an AI that generates videos, images, and forms without any control.
>>42232338have tyou been sleep before? its literally that. you don't even care
>>42232383i think about this a lot and what's after death
There is nothing after death, just like there was nothing before you were born.Death is the end and no amount of wishful thinking will change that.
>>42232402>There is nothing after death, just like there was nothing before you were born.it's different, before i was born that nothingness was "stopped" by me being born so my experience started from there, what i can't comprehend is infinite nothingess after death, how can you exprience that forever? it will never be stopped.>Death is the end and no amount of wishful thinking will change that.i hope so but no one knows that for sure
>>42232402Nothing after death is the wishful thinking.If there is something after death, it could be unimaginably horrible, for instance, being trapped in a state of immortality where you feel extreme pain for eternity simply because the universe doesn't give a fuck about your well-being.
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>>42232583You will die, then live, die again and live again, again and again. To live and die
>>42232592why do you think that? also as in eternal recurrence or reincarnation?
>>42232367close your left eye and leave your right open then try and look through your left eye. that's nothingness
>>42232420AlsoIf there is something after death, it could be unimaginably beautiful, for instance, being put in a state of immortality where you feel extreme bliss for eternity simply because the universe doesn't give a fuck about your well-being.Stop being such a pessimist for a situation you have no clue on lmao
>>42232656bro clam down lmao, no need to seethe so much XDok well what do you see in the back of you sight, thats nothingness
>>42232338Mortality only becomes a problem and a source of sorrow because man cannot free himself from his categorisation of life and existence. In the physical sense, man must die and there is no escape. But, if man can understand Nature’s way and embrace the Dao, then he lives as long as the Dao.
>>42232338Wake up OP.. your family misses you
>>42232699best wishes anon
>>42232338>then what will you expriencenothingness>how can you exprience nothingessyou don't experience anything as you are not consciously able to, as you are dead lol
>>42232383This is the reason why I fear death. I've also seen those horrific Salvia trips where someone is a conscious inanimate object for a lifetime. That freaks me the fuck out
>>42232338>then what will you exprience?You will not be, so there wont be experience.>how can you not exprience anymore?You cant, but you wont be, so there will be no experience.
People lose memories. People have amnesia and alzheimers. I imagine it'll just be that but with all of your memories. If you don't remember the last moment, what experience do you have?
My wife sits on my face so aggressively that she splats my skull and relocates my brain to necromance me somewhere elseI don't believe in death
>>42232375>>42232393By the way, even if when you sleep you experience something, your brain usually doesn't record these memories though. Tests have been done on people being woken abruptly and they are usually able to tell what they were experiencing right before being woken up. Of course the tests were done while the patients were not dreaming since that can be measured.Anyways you never experience nothingness, even when you're asleep and not dreaming you are somewhat thinking and experiencing.Saying it's like being asleep is therefore wrong, and saying it's like before being born is also wrong since you don't really know how it was and trying to actually picture it and focusing on it will mind break most people
The fact that life ends and all the problems associated with it go away should be the most comforting fact every person understands.Everything, EVERYTHING is temporary.
>>422351991+1=2, when does it stop being true?
Its nothing if you didnt believe in Christ if you truly believe in Christ and God and have done good deeds you will go to Heaven and obtain eternal life life forever you will live again but if you dont believe in God and Jesus then you will perish on this earth or go to Hell if you were evil
>>42232338Your intuition is right. You cant experience nothingness. In fact perception of time is characterized by experiencing change, so experiencing nothingness would not even have a time elongation. I can argue that Im experiencing what Im experiencing right now + nothingness because I would never be able to know if I experienced nothing because it literally isnt anything. I think it is more plausible to experience anything than to ever experience nothing, so immediate reincarnation is one model that is more plausible than nothingness.
>>42232385There's no longer a physical limit on how much pain can be experienced. People are going to love that.
>>42235199>Everything, EVERYTHING is temporary.Like pain having physical limits before the brain turns consciousness off to protect itself.
>>42232338What really happens after death, I think nobody really knows but the closest proxy to knowing are near death experiences. There might also be a few liars among them, but I think the majority about these accounts is true. But then, it is near death, not actual death, so nobody alife really knows.
>>42232338You are an observer seeking through an infinite array of states whom has decided to focus on some clump of meat called a human.All of your choices and free will surmounts to navigating a story of all possibilities set static and deciding what part you'd like to see the human you're observing subjected to and moving your focus to the point in which that occurs.Some like it when it gets worse, some like it when it gets better, but everyone likes a contiguous story (how many times have you read a book backwards, probably never).If you decide to stop observing when your focus reaches a subsection in which your favorite clump of meat dies off, that only supposes you're no longer interested in stories; that does not mean there's nothing else.The more likely answer is that you'll either retract to a previous point and try something different, or even focus on some other part which has nothing to do with your previous point of focus.The most likely answer is that you'll get bored and look around at everything which only has a minor binding to human life, like finishing a game and looking up all of the lore you missed and all of the details you thought were neat and this will be non-contiguous. You'll then probably pick a new favorite clump of meat for another go around.I've re-read my favorite books before, I've followed different characters, I've looked up the lore, I've imagined alternate endings and events. It's the same thing just one dimension higher.You're not going to lose anything, only your motivation to read.
>>42232393>have tyou been sleep before?no
>>42235199Pretty much what I experienced in my NDE. I'm legitimately furious to be back.
>>42235409when you die
>>42236255I dont think so. I think there is something immortal aboit it, even if the names and symbols might change or get lost, the essence of it seems to remain.
>>42232338>there was a point where you never existed >somehow people can't believe you'll return to the void, you'll either exist as some kind of ghost or get isekai'd into another dimension to continue existing I think our parents are in some kind of entropic debt for bringing us to existence in the first place all things considered.
>>42232402Lol
You know when you get drunk to that point where time stops existing and you just teleport from location to location with no idea how you got there or what you did in the interim? That's you experiencing nothing.
There is life after deathGeneration noting
Is like asking how can deaf people exist they just exist you dont need language to exist you can just stop existing
>>42236822Im not saying that this life is worthless. I just think that death is not an ultimate end of everything.
>>42232603>why do you think that?>>42232579>>42232578>>42232583And other stuff and personal experienceAnd most importantly it just feels like the right answer.ultimately if belief is all I had, belief is all I need>also as in eternal recurrence or reincarnation?eternal recurrence was just an hypnotical to see if you are truly satisfied with your life, it doesn't have any grounding beside that it """""could""""" exist.As in reincarnation
>>42237247>I'm not saying that this life is worthless. yep, even counterpiracy atheist philosophers and arguably one of the best phosphors like Thomas Nagel agree on this.He gives logical reasoning behind this in Mind and Cosmos .> I just think that death is not an ultimate end of everything.Next stage is knowing death is not an ultimate end of everything.
>>42237417>counterpiracyContemporary*
>>42237417Atheists think all life there's nothing,,They get reincarnated as a dog in a loving homeThen they learn to love again within 10 yearsThen back to human the soul goes
>>42232338When you're unconscious without dreams, that's when you experience brief nothingness. Then, you regain consciousness yet again. That's the cycle of life and death in a nutshell.
>>42232338It blows my mind that none of you kids practice OBE's yet. I know people who've literally left their body multiple times. You guys are so behind bro. Im actually acted to do it which is why I haven't tried yet. Same with DMT, I wanna try but I'm kinda scared to, I still don't really feel like I'm ready.
