“make” is a bad idea
magic that robs another of their free will rebounds.
make yourself lovable to whomever it is you desire. or find someone who is interested.
riddle me this: would you date yourself anon?

>>42238144
they are never coming back you need to move on

>>42238149
thank you for the reply,
>“make” is a bad idea
magic that robs another of their free will rebounds.
of course youre right, i know and i feel so guilty and i hate myself for having the urge to do this to them. i know they are better off without me and i love them so much i dont want to hurt them but this pain is worse than anything i have ever felt and im so pathetically desperate that its making me so disgustingly selfish.
i dont even know if i really would go through with it if there was a way but i just need to know if its possible. im not mature enough to be so selfless and let them go.

im sorry for the wall of text and its probably extremely boring, but this isnt just a relationship that i cant get over, this person is an exact embodiment of everything i have loved since i can remember, they are exactly who i need. i still cry every day because it hurts so much that im not enough, i really tried so hard to fix it.
>would you date yourself
no. im ugly inside and out and i have no self respect im filled with hate and sickness but they accepted me for it and then abandoned me i never should have opened myself up to it i knew i didnt deserve it

>>42238193
>>42238193
this pain will pass and make you stronger in the end. I know such pain, I married my dream person, loved them since I was 17. they died in a car crash.
if you love something let it go. cliche but true.
and I know this ain’t the board for looksmaxxing but hey, try it? and work on what’s ugly inside. your reply says you can’t be that bad off in there, there is depth and soul and caring. nurture that flame.

Just grow your hair and dye them black.

>>42238144
>please help
What's up?
>make another human love me
KYS.
Move on, looser.
Sticking with this stupidity will simply hurt yourself.

>>42238144
i wasted 5 years of my life being depressed over a girl. now i regret it.

she is never coming back. dont waste a single day waiting for something that will never happen. dont be a fucking idiot like i was.

>>42238225
im really really sorry that happened to you :c how long did it take for you to heal from it? i have a really hard time letting go, my best friend died two years ago and i think about them every day and i still havent fully accepted it.
>looksmaxxing
i have an eating disorder and i do work on my looks but some things you just cant fix and they didnt even judge me for my appearance the main reason they left is because i loved them too much. i sound like a spoiled brat but i genuinely dont know how to comprehend that something i need so badly will never be given to me and he knows that i would do anything and still doesnt care about me.
thank you for being so kind
>>42238227
my hair is black dyed and long :x
>>42238233
>looser

>>42238266
but how can i just choose to deny how im feeling because it isnt rational

>>42238144
An ex is like a jail: if you go back to them you haven't learned your lesson.

>>42238144
Who is this person to you and to the world? Do you want to possess them or only reconnect with them?

Selling your soul is a bit much. You can lease it, you know.

>>42238271
very sorry for your loss
it took me about two years to start thinking of dating again. it helps perhaps that I am an oldfag and clocks were ticking, I think had I been younger I might have mourned for a lot longer. I still miss them everyday, they were my best friend as well as spouse. no one will ever connect like that with me again; but that is ok. now.
I will say I have found joy, love and family with time. things I didn’t dream possible during darkest days.
part of the “if you love something let it go” most people tend to not mention is, the “if it comes back it was always yours”. I don’t want to plant false hope but also I don’t want to call it false. perhaps in time they will return to your life, as long as they are alive it could happen. but until then, you just got to take care of yourself. love yourself like you loved them. explore the world, even if it’s just a hobby at a time, find new spiritual ways to grow and learn. love finds you when you least expect it so busy yourself with anything else, you only have more to gain by doing so.

>>42238281
to me, perfect in every sense, the most beautiful soul i wont explain everything because it would be too long but there is no flaw i can find in them which has never happened to me before
i dont want to possess them i just want them to care about me and love me and save me. its not like i would take it for granted and i dont just want to be adored for my ego i would make them happy i would do everything to make them as happy as i could

>>42238297
they dont love you

they dont want to be with you

making them come back would be making them live in hell

you are evil. you only care about yourself

>>42238294
i really appreciate the advice ill try to work on myself but im scared that because my only motivation to do so is that i would be better for them, that ill be even more disappointed if they dont care or notice. i dont understand what exactly they want, they were attracted to aspects of my personality that only exist because of how much i hate myself but thats also why they left im scared i wish i just knew what to do to be what they want
im really happy for you that you found new peace and happiness

>>42238297
You have to explain everything so people can help you, OP. This is the price for having this thread.

>>42238302
youre right ill stop posting now

>>42238144
go to the gym

>>42238144
>with another humans mind to make them love me?

Yes, be nice to them.

>>42238307
>>42238309
Good luck, OP. I'm sorry I couldn't help you. Hopefully your soulmate sees this.

>>42238297
>>42238144
anon, I understand, I've been there. There are two angles to approach this problem: talk it out with them, and bring your feelings to bear against the hard edges of reality. This is the external way. The other angle is introspective: consider what part projection has to play in this - how much fantasy is going into your perception of this person? How satisfying is the fantasy alone, without the physical person? I think a great deal of the pressure you feel comes from projection, which is partly normal and good; but if it's to this extent that you're hoping to manipulate the other person, perhaps you'd be best off by focusing your efforts on the inner partner instead, so you can distinguish your perfect anima/animus from the flawed flesh-and-blood in front of you. Once some of the pressure is off, maybe you should talk to the person about it so you know exactly where reality ends and where fantasy begins.

>>42238144
>is there any real way to connect with another humans mind to make them love me?
yes
>please help
no

>>42238144
There is and i'll give you the answer, however you have a lot of resistance (potential energy) built up. I know how you feel anon, I went through that for 5 years before figuring out the answer. It was an ex gf and when she left, i was ruined. It was 5 years of absolute hell and having her back absolutely healed me. Life fell into place after that.
What I will say is, you feel that way for a reason.
i'll add, don't overdo all the practices. Relaxing is key, work on your nervous system first.

I suggest you look up, LoA, Neville Goddard's reddit page has a lot of solid content on manifesting a 'specific person' and that's what you want to research.
Manifest with Genevieve is a great youtube channel, she specializes in this content.

>look at me I'm caught up in my samsara drama bullshit
I hate normies so much

>>42238144
You have to love yourself first anon.

>>42241287
i cant talk to them anymore we arent in contact, but i was extremely honest about my feelings when we spoke so i doubt it would change anything, but your advice is really good thank you i think a lot of it was projection and i think they sort of knew that and played into it which is why im so crazy over it
>>42241308
i am a woman im talking about a man i just didnt want to make it obvious because i want people to take me seriously
>>42241342
;-;

>>42241388
thank you very very much for this info i appreciate it!!!!!!!!!
>>42241517
no
>>42241399
i dont think any part of what we had was normie :x

>>42241574
Yeah you do bud. I was literally you for a couple of years following my breakup. Put yourself first and everything else falls into place

>>42241308
lol men project so hard with this because some girl broke their heart long ago. it’s quite funny, as funny as it is untrue.
it is easier to believe women can’t love than it is to accept that it didn’t work out, people break up, so just writing off all women to protect yourself rather than try again.
I know my wife loves me, is devoted to me.

>>42238144
Yes. I'd be doing this shit actively if mt attention span was higher. It's left hand path though. It will backfire if you do it incorrectly.

>>42238302
This. Orpheus looked back on purpose.

No. You must change the elements within yourself that yearn for the person, so that you get that energy you want from within not from her.

The belief that the person would make everything better is an illusion.

I feel for you, was there for years.

I used PSYCH-K to reprogram my subconscious. It took a long time.

Basically, treat your body-mind-spirit as your own child, and try to start raising yourself, giving yourself all the best stuff you can manage. Outdoor time, quiet time, explore curiosities. figure out your best diet.

Food, rest, space, listen to your own story with audio journaling, avoid shitty people.

If youre in a job you hate, or a place, make plans to relocate as if youre doing it for your inner child.

Once you figure out you dont owe anyone else anything, you figure out that she could never have helped you anyway.