why do the aeons or angels or any other spirits never need to be born, huh? everyone says you gotta incarnate and re-incarnate trillions of times until you've "evolved" or learned enough "lessons" to earn your right to be free or whateverwell, why do those other motherfuckers get to be free without ever having suffered a day on earth?were they born pre-programmed with the "lessons" or some shit? if it was that simple then god could have just programmed us to be perfect too, instead of fucking throwing everyone into a meat grinder and telling us figure it out on our owneither god is a sadist or all this "learnin teh lessons" stuff is a load of shit
that's a nice long son, you make that?
>>42242888I haven't found an argument that doesn't carry the implication that this isn't a prison dimension.If it were a school or a class, you could leave at any time unfinished or not.The fact that there are pre-birth memories suggesting forced reincarnation and callous "spirit guides" (both present in NDEs and pre-birth) makes me question what is happening here.Some people will say "oh noes don't give into fear-based mentalities" yadda yadda, this shit doesn't make me fearful, I'm just skeptical of how pure this life and death process really is.Remote viewers and those under hypnosis have also witnessed these beings (spirit guides, gods, buddhas, your relatives) showing their true form as the greys, reptilians, or the mantis beings, and that there is a protection grid around the Earth to keep us from escaping.Personally, I don't know what the real story is and I can't guarantee that what lies beyond is something good or bad in our eyes, but there's a lot of things that sound disappointing to say the least.
>>42242888They experience time differently as if everything happens all at once. It's a different kind of hell.
>>42242888Checked and I agree anon. If Earth is a school what are we training for? Jobs at the soul factory? Why does this job require experience in suffering?
>>42243298The fact that spirits don't have the ability to place context within a linear timeline that we created as a collective consciousness shows they must have limitations.How could something like this be created by something that doesn't understand it?>>42243320There is allegedly jobs and a hierarchy in the afterlife. Become the biggest and most spiritually advanced of all souls. (despite all knowledge being available in an instant)They say there's no ego outside of here, when these concepts appeal directly to the ego itself. It had to come from somewhere, I suppose.
>>42243349They can place context within a linear timeline. Their selves at different time points are all synced up, but they experience it all at once which drives them insane. Most of them reincarnate just to escape it for a while.
>>42243383>for a whileThat doesn't make sense if they experience time like that.
>>42243455I understand why you would think that, but it's not like they don't also experience the passage of time for each of their selves. It's kind of like having an unlimited amount of bodies that you have to control at the same time, but each body also remembers what you were doing just a moment ago and knows exactly would it should do now. The sensory overload is impossible to handle without getting insane. When they reincarnate into our world they feel time linear again until their death.
I should clarify: each of their selves does not just exist for that one moment. They live their whole life with each of them.
>>42243614The higher self wouldn't actually experience any relief from its components experiencing linear time.
>>42243686It's better to experience time linear in my opinion. I reincarnated into this world almost 40 years ago and can still remember everything. I have known how I will die and every other important aspect of my complete life for 40 years now. That's why I can tell you how it is for them in the first place.
>>42243735Got any loto numbers anon? Joking aside I get why it would be better for us individual fragments to experience linear time, but I don't see how it benefits this supposed higher self for whom this life is an instant that has already occurred.
>>42242888you don't need to live and die a million times to reach enlightenment and escape. anything and anyone still alive could reach enlightenment in their lifetime, its just that specific states and ways of being make it easier. I'd find it pretty hard to escape if i were one of the few other sentient animals or fish, especially so if i was one of the less sentient animals or fish. You need to perfect yourself and become something better. you will achieve this through your own choice and awareness that you can, if you do not carry the capability of doing so/refuse to do so, you need to go through the thralls of existence until you do.even the higher things die and suffer at some point, heaven fades. the only way to escape it is to be completely beyond it.
>>42243835It's not an instant for them. Quite the opposite even.They feel the passage of time for each of their selves all at once. That's why it feels like an eternity for them. I reincarnated just to escape the feeling of insanity and I'm scared of going back after I die. I will try to immediately reincarnate again, into a different life than this one. The problem is that I will have to be my higher self first before I can do it which will immediately make me insane again. Even just thinking as your higher self feels like an eternity of time passes between each of your thoughts.
