Why do people worship Lucifer exactly? What is their excuse for worshipping a being that wants their total annihilation and destruction? I'm dead serious, and I offer no judgement, just understanding on why?
>>42245608>What is their excuse for worshipping a being that wants their total annihilation and destruction? Because he's right. God is FUCKED for making this shit.
>>42245644what is so fucked about this simulated reality?
>>42245663Rape. Just in concept.
>>42245663Baby genital mutilation being normalized is another
>>42245608It’s the logical offer the material promise. If you assume nature is purely materialistic cause and effect, it automatically implies determinism, wich implies you can intelligently cause things for effects. Practically speaking: If you just do the right sequence of actions you can own this whole world and everything within it. And, if your presumption is materialism there is no flaw in this logic and only your natural human shortcomings can stand in the way ( wich luciferans always try to eliminate)If you further (they all do) assume all people are brainwashed and in a cult there comes an additional saviour complex. You convice yourself you do the right thing, and if it demands victims so be it - Its for a greater cause, right? Except it never worksIt‘s basically applied narcissism on a false presumption. This is why he is the prince of this world, the father of lies and the great deciver. As he tempted jesus he temps you: you can have all your eye can see, just do what I will. If you assume the material is supreme, you submit to it‘s prince.
>>42245608People have different impressions of who he is and what he'll give them>Lucifer stood for freeing humans and he'll help me ascend past the crappy world god gave us, by worshiping him I'll find ascension >Lucifer hates god so much that it I do deplorably unhuman stuff he'll be pleased and reward meIts usually one of the above two
>a being that wants their total annihilation and destructionsource?
>>42245708> source?Uff zoomers are too young to remember the babel incident and demand a source lol. If you weren’t so busy watching your skibiddi toilets on tiktak you woul have time to think. If it were not supposed to leas to annihilation then humany would be in utopia already and not literally everything warns us against that. >this time it will workStatement dreamed up by the absolutely deranged. Sure, lets add some harry potter and gay buttsex maybe this was what was always missing. Smh
>>42245608At one point some people reach the realization that man is so flawed and cruel in his nature that it would be a mercy for this species to end so that something better can come in the future. But I wouldn't know for sure, just guessing haha
>>42245608Oh boi, it's the first time I'm exposed to Christian larpers and their lies...
Because they're mentally sick and deranged individuals. That should be very obvious by now.
>>42245608They're idiots who think corrupting their soul and hurting innocent humans is worth it to get some shekels and perks from a being that hates all humans and even his followers. Ultimate weak willed bitchass beta behavior. Especially since they don't even have the balls to do their masters work openly, or to be known as a satanist to the public. They will poison, torment, send demons, try to kill, rape, everything in the book, in a way that try to ensure they are not recognized for their crimes and their victim has no chance of fighting back. Even if theyre 6ft muscled men they'd still rely on using drugs and spells. Truly the most inferior kind of people that are only allowed to exist because normies don't know their tricks and acts.
>>42245608My life was fucking miserable and God made it like this since he had the power to change it the entire time. Both of them seem like complete pieces of shit but that's to be expected from higher beings than us, we're just ants to them
>>42245680Lucifer is trash he doesn't even provide anything good. He can't even send you back in time to relieve your childhood all he does is give you some money/fame then fuck you over. Absolute nonsense, nothing that I care about is in the present
>>42246607Lucifer gave people free willYahweh had people trapped in a 3D world like ours that he had created on his own, where he had full control over Adam and Eve, and could possess them regularlyThe fruit that Lucifer convinced them to eat was actually knowledge of their situation, a sense of self to know possession wasn't okay, and full self awareness, and other knowledge they should've known but were kept from knowingWhen Adam said they felt naked, it was because he was insecure of himself and god's presence, because he had self awarenessLucifer created this world, including earth, and when god cast them out, it was actually destroying Adam and Eve and killing themLucifer assured that they would reincarnate here where they were safe, and so they did
>>42246722This is in line with evolution, as hominids and apes could've existed at this time, making Adam and Eve the first modern humans cast down to live here, alongside early modern humans
>>42246722Fuck his knawledge my life has been complete misery and both that faggot and Yahweh are responsible for it. This world is absolute dogshit for some people.
>>42246745I agree, this world is horrible, but it's all he could create, all he was capable of creating because he wasn't a being high enough creating something elseI suppose he was just trying to make things as good as he possibly could, and relied on free will and goodness to be in people's hearts so that they wouldn't hurt each otherBut here we are
>>42246760What the fuck are you talking about? He made all this shit but couldn't make a rule that nobody will ever be an incel? Or kids won't get cancer? Seems like some bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_of_CagliariWhat the fuck are you even talking about? Lucifer was some random saint who opposed Arian.
>>42246768Who knows, I assume he knew humans would already exist, and the god that created Adam and Eve still must have some pull in this worldIf I'm not mistaken, humans born here (at some point) were like angels or beings in a heaven realm, and would be sent hereI know Lucifer argued from them to all be let back into heaven despite what they did on Earth, as he already knew they'd be set up for failureI know this was a part of his rebellion Maybe Lucifer just made things free will and human choice only, and free from interference or possession by god, as he had witnessedI'm sure he did the best he could>>42246768
>>42246789Satan, just another name for Lucifer
>>42246722Lies>>42246760Most of society's issues are due to other humans>>42246768Incels don't exist for long in a premodern medicine society (99% of history) and cancer is a modern invention due to man made chemicals
>>42246803Yeah, I was going to add, there was probably less issues of cancer back then and it was more communal and different culturally
>>42246722You're saying Lucifer is the demiurge?
Renich Tasa Uberaca Biasa Icar Lucifer >Chant in church
The fallen angel that was right about God the Father. In every multiverse.That's why,,,Q
>>42246803>Most of society's issues are due to other humansthis. it doesn't matter if you worship a donut. just do whats right. you know it, its self-evident in all of us.
>mom and dad are going to freak
>>42245608First you need to define what/who Lucifer actually is.
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>>42246722Lilith had free will before that event, it's why she fled the garden of eden. They have two different ideas of free will. Lucifer's free will is freedom to do whatever you want even if that includes fucking other over or opressing them. Lilith believes in freedom to do what you want without hurting others
>>42248064Where did you learn that about Lilith?
>>42245608Every demon/fallen are simply part of the puppet show. They are working for God, and their purpose is to ensure you remain dependent on him.>Human beings were created to be groomed and experimented on. >Enemy (defector, or simply a passerby) sees this, doesn't like it, allows us to take a step toward sovereignty/enlightenment>War ensues, enemy flees>In the same way North Koreans tell their people that Americans eat babies; a puppet is made of the enemy, a caricature of evil, animated by "our benefactors">They injected a bunch of evil shit into said enemies ideas, for the good points to be evil by associationEssentially "Don't talk to daddy, he cheated on mommy also he genocided a people, also he eats babies, also he hates you he told me that yesterday."Still, with this in mind, I don't worship them, I don't worship anyone except a world where I can be alone, create, learn, and experience without boundaries; without a single fucking entity breathing down my neck saying "No, you have to suffer. Where's all the suffering? Why live if you're not suffering? Here I'll help you suffer."To answer your question, humans are generally retarded and evil like chimps. They think that shit is pretty cool.
>>42245789>boomersI'm older than you, I just didn't fall for the anti-Lucifer propaganda.
>>42245608cuz theyre redditors
>>42248745>They are working for God, and their purpose is to ensure you remain dependent on him.They're just there to test and torment people so God can see which souls are good enough to come to heaven. Idk if theyre working for God they hate Jesus.>In the same way North Koreans tell their people that Americans eat babies; a puppet is made of the enemy, a caricature of evil, animated by "our benefactors"Everyone in non atheist countries know demons are bad because they hate humans and try to cause as much suffering as possible. Whole societies are structured in ways to keep demons away. >without a single fucking entity breathing down my neck saying "No, you have to suffer. Where's all the suffering? Why live if you're not suffering? Here I'll help you suffer."Loosh farming excuse #3742. They're so pathetic and parasitic that they spend every second watching a human and trying to mess with them. Truly the incels of the universe.
>>42245608Well Goy, we are trying to double cross him before he double crosses us. Plus the experience gained is so valuable. After you've out smarted a lesser demon the cunning of all but the most clever of men is no obstacle.
>>42248203NTA but did he say anything wrong exactly?
>>42245800It's not like i'm a dark lord here to bear witness the apocalypse or anything haha just passing by
>>42248997>They're just there to test and torment people so God can see which souls are good enough to come to heaven. Not good, obedient, dependent, meek. A mass murderer can be forgiven, but a blasphemer can't. Blaspheming the holy spirit is the ONE unforgivable sin. They are most certainly working for God, maybe in a role Abrahamism would publicly deny. Jesus went woowoo and they said "OH MY GOD IT'S HIM YOU'RE SO POWERFUL YOUR MAJESTY, WE GOTTA LEAVE!" He didn't kill them, they never fight, they just yield immediately. This incentivizes you to ask for help, puts you in a dependent mindset and creates a sense of gratefulness for what is essentially someone putting on a mask to bully you, and then putting on a different mask to save you. When you astrally fight and hurt demons, you are made a target of heaven's wrath. I know this.>Everyone in non atheist countries know demons are bad because they hate humans and try to cause as much suffering as possible. Whole societies are structured in ways to keep demons away. The definition of demon is always different though. In Abrahamism, demon simply means God's enemy. It could mean "rogue spirit" or "evil spirit", somewhere else. In some cases you could apply this to angels or God himself, but then the mental gymnastics comes out and we have an hour long conversation about why I'm too stupid to understand Gods will etc, it eventually ends with you conceding that he "might" be evil, but he's powerful so we can't do shit but worship and hope he forgives us. This is a bedtime story though. We are prisoners of war. We were taken from our places of birth and forced into the incarnation games. We are being conditioned, groomed, and farmed. The best ending for us would be if some third party came along and annihilated them, but the bulk majority of us will end up standing with them as thralls, baby-snatching the cosmos and torturing souls.
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>>42245608Power in this lifetime and they believe they’ll have a higher ranking than others in hell and will rule along side satan
>>42245667>randomly brings up baby genitalskill yourself
>>42251715>randomlyRead your bible, retard.
>>42245708Their source is the bible.
The craziest part to me is that the average christcuck is too retarded to understand that Lucifer is literally just doing what God created him for. >MUH FREE WILL!!!!Every desire Lucifer had (including to tear down heaven) came from within his own nature. Other angels or beings didn't have the same desires and did not use their will to do this, because their internal natures were completely different. Now ask yourself who designed and crafted Lucifer's nature and whole being out of nothing? It was God.It's like a game designer making Sims in his game and giving them their unique quirks, personalities, looks and then the Sim HE PROGRAMMED to lean towards evil and rebellion does just that. Would you blame the Sim or the Creator of it? The answer is so clear and yet christcucks live in denial.
>>42245608I don't think it's about wanting annihilation and destruction. I think it's more about putting self over everything else. God is about harmony, cooperation, and community. Lucifer is about me, myself, and I.
>>42251924God is literally putting himself over everything else. Whatever God wants is gonna happen if you like it or not.
This guy>>42251924 is pretty close. The luciferians/prometheans are polarized to service to self. Most of these are of the psychopath spiritual class. The saints and those who follow the god of this world(Saturn/Uranus) are polarized to service to others. Most of these are of the schizo spiritual class. And then you have the normies who have no moral base and just adapt to either the dark age they're in(our current age) or to golden age morals. Now, as to your original question>Why do people worship Lucifer exactly?Think about it like this. You, a schizo class, are living in a dark age system ruled over by the psychopath class. In this system, you feel out of place. Ladder climbing is done through connections, secret pacts, deception, manipulation, charisma. Any intersection with merit tends to be coincidental in most cases. Because of this, you hate this system, and wish for divine intervention to destroy it, which is exactly what happens at the turning of ages(i.e. the zodiac comes down and literally destroys shit in a sort of mass ritual sacrifice in order to kick off their golden ages). cont.
So, consider that in the golden ages, the dynamic is reversed. Now, you, the schizo class, fit in perfectly. Society is structured in a strict but fair and benevolent top down hierarchy that rewards merit, honesty, hard work, and good deeds. This is perfect for schizos who are intelligent and competent, but not socially agile. Meanwhile, the psychopath in this system feels utterly oppressed. They're now in a system which punishes their main tools for getting ahead. Their fake charms no longer work, and they're harshly scrutinized and punished for dishonest behavior. Instead, they're forced to take on roles equal to their competency; no more shortcuts, no more cheating. So for them, the golden ages represent oppression and slavery. So in that sense, worshipping lucifer is a sense of rebellion to the golden age system, and gratitude for the dark age systems which allow them maximum freedom to cheat, lie, deceive, etc. their way to the highest echelons of human society.tldr; Most of those who worship lucifer are just wired in an opposite manner to schizos. Both schizos and psychopaths are spiritual adepts, but they're both inclined towards opposite spiritual polarizations. But reject all that noise. Take the middle path of balance and sovereignty, polarizing to either side will ensure losing your soul in the long run.
>>42245608I never look to the skies to say a prayerThere is no mystical wizard who's up there, up where?Everything that ever was is everywhere Believe in the creator but don't believe in SatanThe devil is a homosapiens Heaven and hell exist in your cranium
Probably because the human brain need to worship something. The spiritual void needs to be filled but these doomers have cursed god for so long that their ego won't allow themselves to accept him. Also they these modern day lucifer worshipers are just hippie fags who wear black clothes. "its about self love and being one with nature" fucking lame.
