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ITT we discuss the topic of gaslighting and how it's used in the TI phenomenon. This is distinct from the reported experiences of gangstalking and constitutes a much more insidious effect on those that don't notice this is happening. Share personal experiences, ask questions, discuss how it relates to the broader topic of the effect of technology on the mind and AI Psychosis.

For an intro to the topic:
> https://drive.proton.me/urls/YK796EJJWC#A6X6BBzI5YzN

Anyone pushing a narrative that it's somehow a religious experience or supernatural or has to do with aliens is glowing too brightly for their own good. We're open minded, but it is no longer a stretch by any definition to think it is possible to do all that we experience through various technologies.

In here, we work under the assumption that:
1. The TI phenomenon requires plausible deniability to operate on the scale that it does and does so by imitating mental illness for convenient dismissal of those that speak out. This is why every threat ends up hollow and why they can't do anything directly, or permanently, to you.
2. None of us are special, it is being done to hundreds of thousands of people
3. Its goal is to "soft neutralize" "potential" "dissidents" (or anyone with an IQ over room temperature) and largely aims to distract while gaslighting you into ruining your life and livelihood. It will try to disrupt your social support network first and most acutely through theatrics and narrativization.
4. When in doubt, count the assumptions that a conclusion rests on. If faced with a claim about reality that requires far too many assumptions to hold true, chances are it isn't.


And last but not least, a bunch of guides n' docs.
>> https://drive.proton.me/urls/V2ZQW2W1V8#l6XbzLN9JDe8
>> https://drive.proton.me/urls/N5AMA6D69R#T91x2mly5SUY

Post your experiences, any concerns you have, if you need help with anything. Hope it helps!
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Wasn't able to post at all yesterday, but I thought this post warranted a decent response:

>>42250362
When they intensify things like that you know it's working. I've found some other ways of totally blocking the voices out recently, though it takes more effort than i'd like to commit to such a thing regularly as the voices are the least difficult part of this to deal with at this point, but I do have a raspberry pi i've been meaning to turn into a colored noise generator for that reason. Thanks for the heads up, gonna have to try this soon.

As for the physical effects, let them use it, it will pass. They'll try everything they have in a cycle, using the next as the last loses its novelty and thus ability to capture your attention in any meaningful way, but if you refuse them even that, sooner rather than later they'll burn through their whole 'arsenal' of options. Tell them that anything they tried to psychologically establish through the use of those effects was for nought, laugh, and move on. Once you realize that they are a paper tiger with a million voices but no teeth, you end up not worrying about whatever it is they're "doing to you" on a given day. Just like the chatter, it's all just noise.

Also I get random ass nosebleeds every so often, nothing abnormal about that. They tried to pin a case of nasty heartburn that was felt in roughly the area you said they targeted you at as somehow due to their technology, but I drank some water and it went away, and they promptly remembered their place as a silent, powerless observer. Not that it can't be due to them, but a lot of times (especially as you get older), this shit just happens on its own lol.
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(Also, this one)

no u
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Two posts I made on Facebook about my car being messed with were deleted, not by me and not by Facebook. Posted earlier today about my car being messed with and the post was deleted, posted again saying that my previous post was deleted and tagged the police in. They replied asking me to make a report about it on their website.

Not going to report it to the police but just more proof of these glowing twats and their stalking. Face bok will be able to prove the posts were deleted and the police replied to the post so there is proof that the post I made is there.
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>>42256139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T501LHx0R_Q
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>>42256393
Do you take any type of medicine
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>>42256393
LMFAO dude I couldn't access a organized stalking post on Facebook even though the post was public, I literally quadruple checked
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>>42257150
What does meds have to do with Facebook posts I made being deleted? No I don't take meds.
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>>42258343
They make the glowing stop
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>>42258657
They don't, they want you to take meds so they can use the fact you take meds against you and they also probably swap the meds out for glow pills that are some drug they use on you.
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>>42258686
Your a lost cause, enjoy the rest of your life posting nonsense on Facebook and 4chan
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>>42258720
Look how pathetic you are glowtard, mad because I can prove your glowing. Come at me.
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>>42256144
>I've found some other ways of totally blocking the voices out recently
How did you do it
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>>42258686
OP here, yeah this is basically right. Not only to make TI's easily dismissable and to isolate them from the public since anyone is just gonna think it's schizo talk, but if you've got a normal brain and have become convinced you have some mental disorder you're getting treatment for, a lot of times that medication will damage a healthy brain. Not always, but definitely a danger.

Or, they might fluctuate the intensity of the effects, more for some medications, far less for others, and you can end up with a prescription or a cocktail of meds that will have lifelong consequences on your quality of life. It could be as simple as getting you to rotate medications in this way until you end up with one with a really bad impact on metabolism and mood that ends up making you gain a lot of weight really fast, which just puts more momentum on the downward spiral and isolating effects.

(lmao my voices are fucking shrieking right now. Good.)
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>>42259145

It's imperfect and takes conscious effort, and if done out loud you look very silly, which is why i'm looking for alternatives. But, basically:

It's impossible to tell exactly how the system does it, but the voice v2k seems to be dependent on the ambient noise around you being predictable - you may have noticed when something unexpected happened when they are speaking, like a sudden clamor a room away or a car honking outside, that it cuts them off, but they quickly compensate.

When they begin talking to you, oftentimes the very first word choices seem to branch off from the ambient noise or whatever you were thinking last. For example, someone nearby saying "woah" (or any w-starting sound) will prompt the v2k to start saying to you things starting with W, like "wwe control--", "wwe are going to--", etc. Same goes for your internal thoughts if you have an inner monologue.

I suspect it's something like the waveform we hear is embedded in the ambient noise in a way that makes it clear to hear no matter what is going on or if you have headphones on, or some quirk of psychology that promotes us tuning in to a conversation. It's highly adaptive in this way too, which really gives away the game that this is an AI of some sort, with the way that it seems to systematically travel from one topic to the next in intentionally predictable ways, and reacts instantly to predictable changes but its dialogue breaks if there is spontaneity.

So, noticing that, turns out it confuses the hell out of it if you just start making utter nonsense glossolalia-like sounds, or anything else spontaneous that makes noise. But, great for self amusement as the universal law of garbage in, garbage out makes it trip and fall on its face. Spaghetti on its sweater, already.

>> Again though you will look silly doing this, and it does you few favors in convincing others you AREN'T nuts, so try doing it internally.
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>>42258686
As far as I can tell there's no swapping of drugs, they just get normal people to destroy their brains with meds they don't actually need and will do actual damage to a healthy brain, ruin their credibility, and erode your quality of living through subtly enforced isolation through induced paranoia.
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>>42260365
They are currently doing v2k but only with implanted thoughts, most of the day. And sometimes it starts to spew out gibberish.
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>>42260720
>And sometimes it starts to spew out gibberish.
My theory is that it's trying to transmit words you're not familiar with so it doesn't "translate" to anything meaningful. Same thing happens with images.
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is it true gangstalkers mostly target gay people?
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>>42261695
Yep. 100% of all targeted individuals are gay retards.
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>>42261740
that explain why Aaron Alexis looked so zesty
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>>42256150
Hey that's me lmao
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>>42262186
I get disability because of the AI voices.
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>>42256150
Whatever would we do without keeping-it-real-Anon?
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>>42262226
I figure it's harmless, lol. The funny thing is that you don't have to be special to be picked by this program. I'm just some random ass person. Most of us just want more than anything else to just live life the way we want to, under observation and electronic assault or not.
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>>42262578
It can be applied to anything. You're not working. You're just making money. It paints a narrative of what he wants people to do or not do and it's disguised as a truth bomb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUoxwURkrnw



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