I mean…. It’s complicated, yeah? I’ve tried explaining that we all “grow out of god/source” before like sunflowers out of the garden, with the garden being god/source but some of you for some reason don’t see the beauty there, I could even tell you that after death we don’t experience assimilation like you would think and rather we enter a dream.
yeah buddy we know you want to peddle us space communism but it's never going to work
>>42257132Space communism? Bud I’m trying to help you see the truth and the beauty of it.
>>42257107If you stay in lala land you'll be ripped by the currents made by those proceeding without you.
>>42257107You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink the water. Everyone grows at their own pace. It's not your duty to convince anyone with words. Lead by example.
>>42257197False, are you ripped apart in your dreams when there are others awake? No.>>42257216I’m only trying to help people develop a better understanding of things metaphysically that’ll help them understand the greater picture , your this isn’t my duty but some people will remain willfully blind and in the end they’ll suffer for it, albeit temporarily until they accept the truth.
>but some of you for some reason don’t see the beauty thereyeah it's a real mystery why some people don't admire your "source" that forced them into a world of endless suffering and re-incarnationsso mysterious
>>42257438>False, are you ripped apart in your dreams when there are others awake? No.If you slumber for hundred years, will you be able to reintegrate with the others? The longer you stagnate in bliss, the more the terrain changes.
>>42257438You don't understand anything. You're smelling your own farts and think everyone else should smell them too.
>>42257484False, I don’t really care in the end what you believe I just like to share and ping my thoughts from other dreamers, this is how we develop and grow. I mean at the end of the day this is all subjective and I think what you potentially believe is also shit tier.
>>42257107>I’ve tried explaining that we all “grow out of god/source” before like sunflowers out of the garden, with the garden being god/sourceWhen did we grow, and why didn't we grow before?I don't like your analogy because we did not "grow.". We are eternal beings with no beginning, because we are part of an eternal being with no beginning.There was no moment when God was incomplete without you, and then you grew into existence.
>>42257107>we all exist in a gay soul orgy>you came from the orgy>we're all one and the same or something idk heheNah kys faggot. Soul autonomy is the most important thing in existence, it should never be relinquished. I'm not part of you, and I never was, and that's completely okay. The whole "we all came from the same place" thing is a tranny archon/reptilian psyop, or at best it's a copout to explain things you truly have no grasp on. It's easy to say we all spawned from the same thing, it's not easy to envision otherwise.
>>42257132Based, keep up the good fight against spiritual communists.
>>42258128If your stunted mind isn’t comprehending, We came from god and in some deep level we are even god/source but we are separate. How does something infinite experience what it made? It knows everything, so how does it immerse it self?>>42258806I think your the one who should kts because it reads likes you didn’t really understand what I typed. I explained in my post we are all separate but connected to the source/god. Your projecting pretty hard I mean I didn’t say it was gay, are you okay anon are you gay?
>>42257819>I mean at the end of the day this is all subjectiveThanks for admitting (in a cowardly way) that you're just making up shit.
>>42260772Not making up shit, this idea has been floating around since ancient times. Specifically referring to “the dream afterlife state”, you see this with Tibetan Buddhism and Hinduism, Sufism and even in some Native American beliefs.Thanks for revealing that you’re a arrogant retard!
>>42258927damn and I actually thought this guy was smart kinda
>>42260827Antagonism requires antagonism as a response to sustain itself. Respond in kind or don't respond at all and you will have performed alchemy.
>>42257107>I identify with seed oil plant based analogy so everyone must adopt it too and feel good about it or they are a dumb naziYeah really compelling argument
>>42260994He died of syphilis and his sister stole his books to grift for the nazis, his whole family was a bunch of retards.
>>42257107When do we transform from God and become not-god?
>>42257107Do yourself a favour OP.Take a walk through a dense forest. Learn to appreciate the beautiful variety of life at different scales and levels instead of trying to affirm a homogenous field of endless conformity. Creation would have no purpose if everything created was the same as what was already created.
>>42261096When the farmer sprays the field with Roundup.
>>42257107Sorry OP, any metaphysics that isn't unalloyed concentrated fear-porn is communism now. You will be assimilated into the fear matrix, resistance is futile.
>>42260580>We came from godWhen did we "come from God", and why didnt we "come from God" before? You just changed the phrase, you didnt answer.>How does something infinite experience what it made?Any way it wants to.>It knows everythingIncluding how to experience it.>how does it immerse it self?Simply by wanting to.What rule or power could stop God?
>>42258806> it should never be relinquished.Good luck not dying
>>42257107This is ugly anon.You don't know what beauty is anon.You are a hylic.You have made a feeble stew out of flowers and you think that's beauty.Then you approriated a butchered verson of other mythologies and tacked it onto the end so you could say your model fits those.
>>42261133I did retard and this was my conclusion, out of everything below your comment that could trigger me… congratulations! All life stems from god/source, Wilhelm Reichs Orgone research it! Consciousness=soul=life=god/source. That in my opinion is beautiful because it’s the creator trying to experience it’s created in the most intimate and deeply profound way. Too bad you retards can’t comprehend this. Brother I can take a look at forest and see the life and I can even see the light in peoples eyes, I’ve seen corpses(funerals and someone died in one of my houses from old age) up close and their eyes didn’t hold it. What’s so hard to understand about this? Are you scared? I told you assimilation isn’t what it’s said to be but rather you enter a dream. What’s there to be scared about? Losing individuality? You’ll jeep it because we’re seperate but are connected! The reason I use the flower and garden metaphor is to show you that we come from source/god but remain separate from one another. Our experiences are unique and so are the choices we make because thats how god/source experiences. And what we perceive as the end is not the end.
>>42260580>we are all separate but connected to the source/godOxymoron. You can't be separate yet still connected simultaneously, you're either connected or you're not. In other words, you're either part of the faggot soul orgy, or you're not, and I'm not part of your faggot soul orgy. There are things you can still interact with and tune into, like other people and the collective consciousness, but our souls themselves aren't intertwined (well they shouldn't be at least). The only person you should ever be melding your soul with is your soul mate. And no you can't have more than one, that's a roastie psyop. If you meld with anyone else you're partaking in a faggot soul orgy.>>42261406>he thinks when he dies he has no control over his soul anymoreWay to fall for the loop meme again.
>>42262033>the creator trying to experience it’s created in the most intimate and deeply profound wayCreepy tranny demiurge vibes>What’s there to be scared about? Losing individuality?>heh, just get absorbed into the blob of consciousness never to be seen again>what's the big deal chud?You can go fuck off to the blob if you want, I won't be joining you>we’re separate but are connectedContradiction, literally makes zero sense.>the flower and garden metaphorThe fact that you try to condense the meaning of existence into something so simple is the opposite of beautiful. You are underappreciating just how interesting reality could be, reducing its complexity to something so mundane is borderline insulting, if not actually. Thinking you have the universe all figured out because of a shitty fanfic you created, ignorance incarnate.
>>42260994He wasn't writing his shit down for commies, we know you guys are a little slow.
>>42261096We already are not god, the tranny archons or whatever malicious entities are psyoping you into thinking you're part of this all knowing one thing so they can assimilate you. The actually hold no power over you though, the only thing they need is your consent and willingness surrendered over, so never give it to them. If they get hold of your autonomy it's game over, they can probably just stick you in a vessel of their choosing for the rest of eternity harvesting loosh from you without any chance of escape. You'd have to go through another spiritual awakening to break free, but who knows how long that would take. Imagine being reincarnated as an Indian hundreds of thousands of times over because you got psyoped into joining the homo blob, instead of just telling them to fuck off and going somewhere else (yes, there are other places to go that aren't this demiurge prison)
>>42262462A little too slow in fact, normally I’m able to have in depth spiritual debates, normally but today these anons are slow and retarded. Around the weekend too, interesting no?>>42262527I gave up gnosticism when I learned the Archons are just malevolent humans keeping us and progressing in terms of spirituality. Gnostics were on to something but in my opinion they divided things up too much and over complicated the system.
>>42262625>>42262527There doesn’t need to be a hierarchy.
>>42262628There doesn't need to be a source either. Or if there is a source there could be multiple infinite sources.
>>42262640Touché we could grow to be like source and then do what it did, but something I’m certain on one thing and thats we enter a dream upon death and that’s natural for us unless we choose otherwise. I say otherwise because I have three maybe more ghost/disembodied consciousness encounters. But thats for another thread, when I have the time to thoroughly write them down.Experience experiences experiencing! Whats the point to the lessons we learn? He experiences? To get into heaven? To fall into hell? To grow? Going down this rabbit hole you eventually arrive to the conclusion “this is how god/source experiences everything”. But yes it could be to grow too, because whats the point of learning something only for it to condemn you? Why can we not share ideas? Experience!
>>42262625>Archons are just malevolent humans keeping us and progressing in terms of spiritualityYou are speaking to at least two of them itt . They use you to get lurkers to disregard your arguments. They constantly use reverse psychology, victim blaming, projection and don't hesitate to misinterpret or lie to "loosh" out of you while claiming to fight against that.They are trannies, yet say you promote tranny spirituality and they end up whining here from time to time about their tranny demiurge master who tells them to transition that he's metaphysically raping them on a daily basis.They are shitzos of the highest order. Best is to ignore/hide their post altogether.
>>42262664>Whats the point to the lessons we learn? He experiences? To get into heaven? To fall into hell? To grow?I personally think the point of existence is just to experience, to have fun (bad shit is part of the "fun" too). My guess is that we're all just blobs of consciousness floating around in an astral void and go to realities out of sheer boredom. I also think the places we go to aren't set and predetermined, because knowing exactly what's going to happen ruins the "fun" of it. Like you probably have a vague idea of what's in store for you, but you don't know entirely, and that's the point of it. It's probably the reason every time you die and come back somewhere you go through the veil of forgetting, so you can experience infinity without ever getting bored or sick of it. There is no beginning and end, there is just infinity and living inside of it.But I guess the question mainly is where did our blobs of consciousness come from in the first place? Maybe there is no source, because a source implies a beginning to something, but if existence has no beginning and it's just infinity we wouldn't have come from anywhere, we simply have and always have existed. It's the chicken or the egg dilemma, there is probably no actual way of knowing because both options could technically be true. The answer probably doesn't matter anyway, like do we REALLY need to know what or where we came from? Will knowing leave you feeling fulfilled in some manner? Probably not, it's just a fruitless pursuit. The universe is best enjoyed in the moment, not worrying about the past (where we came from), and not worrying about the future (what will happen to us). It's best to just let the current take you where you want to go, and have "fun" with it. I do think the one thing that is absolute is the control over your own reality, and that you interact with other souls also have their own control over their own reality. Individuality is by far the most interesting thing in existence
>>42264266Because without individuality imagine how boring reality would be. The excitement in life comes from interacting with that which is different from you, other souls who having differing opinions, different ways of looking at things, some for better and some for worse. Imagine if everyone was the exact same person as you, that would be incredibly boring and mundane.
>>42257107How would you feel if you learned THIS is the dream and reality awaits?
