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I believe, it's having Saturn in your 1st house. It's ruined my life and body. I'm a leo rising but it took away all the good qualities of leo and made me a pathetic loser.

I'm curious what you anons think is the worst placement?
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>>42257872
How'd you get a planet in your house?
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I act more like my moon sign because I'm so introverted.
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I have it, too, in conjunction with pluto. It's not the reason we're fucked up though, there's no such thing as "planetary energies." All it does it reflect what's fated for you in that area of life, same as any other placement or aspect. Everything is fated, astrology is just a map of fate.
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>>42257872
I don't mind being a hermit.
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>>42257872
It is probably a Saturn Aspect for sure. I will throw out Saturn Square Venus which I have as pretty nasty.

>>42257904
I think this is very possible but I am not 100% sure. Astrology may simply be a map of our souls. I do think negative aspects are usually past life related and despite what people think karma means, it is more a reflection of unresolved issues at a soul level. Someone gets brutally raped in their past life for example and they may have an aspect that harms their sexual relationships.
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>>42257904
this 100%

calling it "planetary energy" is silly. It's a map, and it goes hand-in-hand with the Tree of Life, and tarot cards. Especially if you use a Thoth deck.

The actual material physical planet Saturn has no direct influence on your life in any way, but what Saturn as an archetype represents symbolically is a real thing that does influence your life unconsciously.
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>>42257872
I'm the same yet I'm successful at everything I do. I've got some bad news for you op: it's 100% just you being a loser and quitter, with nothing else to blame for it.
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>>42257872
>Leo rising

I think that will mostly outweigh it.
I have Saturn in the 1st house and I'm am Aquarius/Pisces rising. I'd like to swap thanks
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Saturn on your chart is not always bad. It depends on a number of things. You need to consider exaltations and detriments, and you need to look at the placement in the decans, and you should consider whether your chart is a day chart or a night chart, and you also want to look at their proximity to your Sun and Moon, as well as any aspects with them, or any other planets or signs or houses.

Reading a chart is a complicated, very long process that can take a while and requires patience and devotion to really pick out all the nuances and get a detailed picture of your fate.

This is not even mentioning things like Lots.

What I am describing is the way astrology was done during the medieval and rennaisance periods. If you are interested in traditional hellenistic and medieval astrology, rather than modern psychological astrology, you should check out a dude named Chris Brennan on youtube. His book is practically a college graduate course textbook on astrology and it's extremely academic and covers literally everything going back to like the dawn of astrology.
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>>42258348
You sound very well read. Would you be open to reading my chart please?
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Idk I think Saturn is kinda cool
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>>42258348
>>42258905
Does my have any negative communications to do with Saturn or anything?
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>>42258348
Was greek astrology purely about predicting the future?
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>>42258905
>2009
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>>42257872
interesting i am leo rising but the sun, my ruling planet is in capricorn conjunct saturn so i wondered if that's why i'm not blessed with the typical benefits of leo rising.
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>>42258348
I need help bros.
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just kill me or nuke my soul into the abyss. I don’t want to live on this dumpster fire of a planet anymore. fuck the angels and demons, fuck the asuras and devas, and fuck Jesus and Satan.

Fuck all of you. Nuke me or so help me God you’ll have me on your hands!
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>>42257872
I have Saturn in the 7th. Let's just say be happy that you have people around you at all to perceive you as a loser.
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I have Pluto in Scorpio on the 12th but it's conjunct my ascendant (Sagi)
>I am the scapegoat of my narcissist family
>People hate me or are scared of me
>I see things like ghosts/auras or just plain schizo idc
>Everything I have predicted turned out true with or without the tarot/astrology
>People say I'm intimidating

Then Saturn in the 3rd house of aquarius
>Autistic and ADHD
>Stuttering until my adulthood
>Literal brain damage
>Phobias (agoraphobia, pyrophobia)
>Somehow still got 145 IQ (did the tests twice with professionals)
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>>42259118
How fucking old are you kids?
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>>42259808
32 male, not young in the slightest
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>>42259478
Then Saturn in the 3rd house of aquarius
>Autistic and ADHD
>Stuttering until my adulthood
>Literal brain damage
>Phobias (agoraphobia, pyrophobia)
>Somehow still got 145 IQ (did the tests twice with professionals)

Anon >>42257976 here, have same placement, also actual sperg but got the Rainman powers too.
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>>42258905
Saturn can be cool. He is just a very strict old man who cares about you so he goes hard on you because you need to learn discipline and strength. It's not easy but it builds character. Don't think of Saturn as just "bad", think of him as setting limits so things don't go to waste. Often Saturn is actually the force that rescues you from your own stupidity, but to us that always feels like a bummer because it means the party time is over and now we have to get to work.

But if you enjoy hard work, and the rewards that come from it, Saturn is your guy.
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>>42258931
More or less, yes. They didn't use it for psychological profiling obviously because they didn't have psychology or psychological concepts. Everything was supersition and spirituality, which back then served the same purpose therapy serves today. Except, back then, the "therapy" was more spiritual, therapy for your soul so you could flourish not just in this life, but in whatever comes after it.

They didn't take this shit lightly in the old days. This stuff was considered hard science for like, thousands of years. The positions of your planets on your chart obviously define your psychology, but they do that because they represent literal events in your life that shape your identity. The positions of the planets indicate a time frame that they could use to predict exactly when and where events would occur in your life.

They used various methods of "timing" for this, but the most popular by far was Zodiacal Release, as well as what are called Annual Profections. Later on, toward the medieval period, "secondary progression" and "returns" were added to deepen the methodology. But the core methods were Zodiacal Release and Annual Profections. Using those methods you could predict events down to the exact day or even hour.
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I also just want to say, I know you guys have jobs (I hope) or possibly classes and things you have to take care of, but if you stopped playing video games and chatting in discord and shitposting on 4chan for like, ONE WEEK, and instead you spent all your free time studying hellenistic astrology, you would know as much as me and be able to read your own chart probably even better than I could.

But it's up to you. Or, you can just be a lazy nigger and bitch and whine, like a bitch, begging. Your choice.
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>>42259885
Sorry ignore me, I was being dumb
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>>42257887
remove the rings and cushions like moving a sofa or chester drawers
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>>42260125
OMG TWINSS

No but, I have the feeling you'll hate my flicke ass for having a Gemini moon in the 7th plus you have mars in aries opposite my sensitive sun in libra UwU~
I'm all talk and no substance
Taurus suns always hate me for being indecisive and flaky
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>>42262120
It could be fun in the right circumstances, and my groundedness actually works as a rock for other people. The big thing is other spergs are always love or hate with no in-between.
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>>42257872
I do know one leo rising person with saturn leo, but in the 12th house. He always sympathy baits and whines about how hard his life is.
>i'm ugly and depressed, please care about me
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>>42257872
Lack of fear isn't bravery.
Bravery is to act despite your fear.

There is no one more capable of bravery than a coward. Only a man wrecked by ultimate fear, who feels it the most, who feels every ounce of it, can truly call himself the bravest one once he overcomes it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmsRYfqGi_Q
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I don't know much about astrology, can an informed anon tell me about my chart?
>August 26, 1992
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>>42264768
You're a party pooper and everyone hates you. You're responsible for ending summer.
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Today was a change of an era, truly transcendental.
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>>42264774
Accurate, so far
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>>42257872
>libra sun sq saturn
>sun sq gemini asc
what are the fuckin chances for god's sakeee
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>>42257914
I like how your chart looks like a coat hanger
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>>42257872
The hexagon on the top of saturn reminds me of the jew hat. Think that's a connection?
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>>42258905
That's because you have him in one of the best states he can possibly have. Exalted at max power and expressing all his best qualities, also in the 12th house which is his joy.

That said, he is very cool when you get on his good side.
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>>42257914
You got a bunch of trines and sextiles that seems pretty nice
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>>42264768
Astrologers would call you a virgo.
That's not a good sign.
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I can deal with anything Saturnian because it delays but never truly denies. Try having your Vertex and Fortune in the 7th house in the sign of Pisces along with Lilith. A triple treat of dogshit. Its easily my worst placements.
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saturn's in my 12th house. it's actually my only 12th house placement save for point of fortune. not sure what it entirely entails though
>>42257887
kek
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Hate my sun square Saturn
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I had a dream where God told me that the entire Universe and all the planets are part of his creation and i believe him they are a gift for us to inhabit someday
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>>42273097
dumb
every single planet out there will kill you instantly
you might get away with a biodome on mars but that's all
>>42257872
mercury square pluto
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>>42273243
How do humans know they can die if they have never been to another planet? they have never even set foot on the moon
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>>42273314
gee I dunno...maybe cuz of things like bone-crushing gravity or toxic atmospheres, lethally hot or cold temperatures, 5000kph wind
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>>42258220
Why would you want to switch
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>>42257872
I have Saturn in 7th house, almost 8th, bad aspected even with Chiron. I've almost always been very lonely since I was a child, alone in my house between cold walls.
Then in high school I was alone again until today, although I hate people sometimes I prefer to be alone
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>>42257872
Yeah, Saturn is messing with me too alright. I have it in conjunction with my Asc in first house. Its hard to explain but it leaves with a feeling of never belong anywhere.
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What the fuck even am I?
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>>42274538
Very interesting Saturn with south node on the ascendant. Are you a spiritual person? Or more of a materialist?
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>>42273503
Having the flair and confidence of a Leo rising?
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Can we talk about death from the 8th house? How might I die?
Female.

Also. Some interesting facts about my life:
- my mother died when I was 21. I don't want to explain how
- have mommy issues anyway
- have family issues in general, I'm the fucking weirdo of the family
- huge anxiety disorder, don't like leaving the house and I enjoy shitposting on 4chan
- I like old games
- Always strangely had Sagittarians around me and have been close to them
- I have a huge fear of flying in planes
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I made the plane thing sound weird and literal.

Also I love animals and I am terrible at maths.
People think I am autistic.
I'm posting all this crap just to see if any of it is relevant from my chart to anyone
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This also should be obvious but my health sucks too. That is all
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>>42257872
Mick Jagger and Clark Gable had 1st house Saturn and that's just off the top of my head. If your life sucks saturn is unlikely to have much to do with it, sorry anon. It's on (you)
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>>42276563
Spiritual, I absolutely despise money and everything it stands for, and value the quality of people's souls above all else.

I also asked my mother the actual time was born as she estimated it was about here, so I updated it. Might give some more insight. I have no idea how to read any of this though, but I would like to learn.
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>>42276668
to add a few more: Russell Crowe, Warren Buffett, Robert Duvall, Sean Penn, Katy Perry, John Lennon, Romain Grosjean (the F1 guy) and many more.
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>>42276783
Don't forget the aspects to Saturn as well
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>>42276608
I tried looking at your past lives and you were part of some kind of hardcore religion.
Might have something to do with your virgo devotion.
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>>42276764
I'm only learning astrology but your chart is interesting. You seem to be a very spiritual and detached person. the following is from Google Gemini0:

1. The Weight of Saturn in the 1st House
Saturn is the planet of restriction, discipline, and time. In the 1st House, it often manifests as:
A "Serious" Aura: You likely came across as very mature or "old" even as a child. People may perceive you as stoic, reserved, or even intimidatingly disciplined.
Self-Criticism: There is often a heavy "inner critic." You might feel a constant pressure to be perfect or a fear of being judged, leading to a very controlled outward persona.
Physical Endurance: It can indicate a bony or lean physical structure, and while it may bring health challenges early in life, it often grants incredible longevity and "grit" as you age.
2. The Release of the South Node (Ketu)
The South Node represents where we are coming from—our past lives or ingrained habits. It is a point of "letting go."
Identity Dissolution: You may feel a strange detachment from your own ego. While others are busy trying to "find themselves," you might feel like your identity is fluid or even unimportant.
Invisibility: The South Node can act like a vacuum. You might occasionally feel "unseen" or prefer to fade into the background despite Saturn’s heavy presence.
Natural Mastery: Because the South Node represents past mastery, you likely have an innate ability to be self-reliant. You don't need others to tell you who you are, yet you may struggle to feel truly "grounded" in your body.
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>>42276848
Man that's crazy. I always thought it was because of the Sagittarius placement being strong in my chart.
I did grow up religious and in a religious household as well.

Thank you anon for looking into this for me!
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>>42276919
Pretty much describes me to a tee, thanks.

>You seem to be a very spiritual and detached person
This, it's almost jarring how much I feel "detached" from people here, it's like I'm living on a different plane of existence to them.
>You likely came across as very mature or "old" even as a child
Something funny I thought I might mention is when I was looking for my time of birth in those booklets they give to mothers to track the baby's progress, it said I was walking at only 8 and a half months old lol. Maybe I had some weird accelerated learning or something from a past life idk, but everyone was freaked the fuck out by it. There's also some other weird things, like my earliest memory being from when I was only 2 years old (me going down a metal slide at a park), though I don't know how common or uncommon that is, I'm curious to know if other people have memories from that early on.
>the South Node represents past mastery
Probably what I was just describing, maybe I've done so many playthroughs of the game I've naturally gotten good at these things.
>Identity Dissolution: You may feel a strange detachment from your own ego
Me for not only the majority of my life, but in the last couple of years in particular.
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>>42257872
3-way conjunction in your 10th house
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As mentioned, Saturn can instill a lot of discipline and endurance, objectivity and realism. He's equal parts the sage, tyrant, and rebel.

>t. Aquarius rising, Saturn Pisces 1H
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>>42276958
Virgo is responsible for killing the fun of summer and the moon would darken it more. It has the same kind of downward energy as religion. Be careful with doing things that look like death cults.
If you put out bad energy like that you will attract more of it. See what happened to your mom.
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>>42257872
Aquarius mercury pisces sun Capricorn moon pure autism and dualism.
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>>42276764
>>42276919
>>42277171
Nvm, after digging up through some old photos I was able to find my birth card with the exact time on it down to the minute, this is the actual real chart. Is there actually a huge difference between the one before and the one now?
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>42277408
>discipline
Is for slaves.
>saturn
>realism
Look at orthodox jews and normalfags, no realism in sight.
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>>42277904
Not that much changed, just your ascendant. You are Aries ascendant not Pisces, that makes it a little less spiritual overall but having Aries ascendant is much better for everyday life i believe.
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>>42277408
>endurance and realist
more like your life sucks for no reason and then you die
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>>42257872
I have saturn opposite mars. It's like everytime I try to take initiative in my life, life slams the door in my face and laughs while telling me I deserve it.
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>>42278763
Did my transit chart too and looks like Saturn has finally made its way back, just in time (ironic). Not sure if it's mocking me or trying to reassure me.
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>>42257872
Saturn in 1st is literally the most common placement for models
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>>42257872
>Saturn in your 1st house
me too apparently

anything (outstandingly) good/bad on mine btw?
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>>42257872
I have a 12th house scorpio moon
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pls rate
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>>42257872
>I believe, it's having Saturn in your 1st house. It's ruined my life and body.
Let's assume that's true. Then it's just the result of sins you did in the past (including past lives). Man up to it and power through.

Godspeed.
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>>42281289
>Aries basedness
That's different. Usually every chart here avoids the based types like the plague and they take all the mental illness types instead.
Although you have the mental illness types too.
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>>42276848
>past lives
I don't know if you're still here or if there's another anon who has insight on past lives based on natal charts, but I would like a reading.
I assumed the 8H focus and all the other aspects pointing towards outside focus has something to do with past karma, maybe?
My theory was that I was a really greedy fuck before this one, which may add up based on what I know of my relatives on both my maternal and paternal sides of the family.
I've never had healthy support from my immediate or distant family, they are either cold and greedy or in deep enmeshment and exhibit toxic codependent oppressive behaviors, no in-between.
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I don't know what most of it means really, but I like the shape of my chart a lot. Very geometric. Anyone have a general summary of this?
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I'm starting to see Saturn related to karma, matter and dead things
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>>42283564
Does it always mean - the stronger Saturn the shitter life due to karma?
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>>42282558
You were some sort of well respected expert professor like a galileo type of nigga. It seemed like science and stuff with math/geometry. There something about a kingdom/palace so maybe you were well off like an elite. You were possibly a big deal at the time since everyone around you knew you. Also a married family man.
I didn't look at your chart or anything you wrote at first, I just looked at your past life energy because I'm a psychic. But now looking at your chart I can see that monstrosity in 8th house gemini is what I was reading. It's combining the floaty airy intellect of gemini with the seriousness of 8th house.
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>>42286750
>chatGPT
Uh-huh...
Well if your psychic intuition is correct, then that ego must think I'm a real fucking loser now probably. (I want to make it clear I do believe in psychic abilities, not a skeptic)
Who am I now, or what do see from a glimpse of past-present-future or in-between? (as time is not linear)
Thanks!
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>>42286921
Are you a truck driver of some kind?
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>>42288155
No, but maybe I would or could be?
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>>42289852
I think it was supposed to be metaphorical then like you're wandering like a truck driver.
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>>42257976
What must I have done in a past life to be addicted to fapping to porn and thus give myself porn induced ED
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>>42257872
im a sag sun at 11 degrees which is draco meaning "accidents" a scorpio venus which means "poorly boy" and saturn in aries at 1 degree.

I think this makes us not npcs since the blackrock in the north pole is saturn and polices humanity, and saturn in aries is where saturn falls, but I was attacked with black magic and am now terminally scizophrenic.
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>>42290663
Vagabond/nomad life? That's my dream life LOL
I am actually planning to start a new chapter in my life and move out of what has stifled me for several years now, and I'm seeing a lot of synchronicity moments that are encouraging it.
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>>42290834
Zam! Das right I'm a magical nigga.
>That's my dream life
I wrote something like that before you said it. There were things about wanting wishes to come true, a bucket list of things you want to do before you die, an eclectic soul, lost/wandering soul, camper van/trailblazer, liking the hugh hefner type of freedom, "the way the sun is angled is beautiful", wanting to be a good guest at their home and wanting to be respected for identity which was probably related to your home situation now.
For the nomad life you're possibly selling stuff in one place, then going to another place to sell stuff and that is what you like about it.
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>>42292104
Holy shit you got it
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>>42257904
That's not quite right between Correspondences as they are between other things.. particularly mythology and Archetypes. Then on the harder facts side, Saturn does have a resonance pitch that's been detected. So I won't say you're wrong to have your view but you are being shallow, in terms of Planetary Magic as well.
My dream of the Saturnian Relativity Cube is evident of that much.
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>>42257887
OP is obviously an ESL.
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>>42276848
Can you look through my past lives please? I have a feeling I was in ancient Egypt at some point
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>>42296489
Didn't look at your chart again while I read your energy.
>Welsh Anglo saxon 1445 (read as general energy and probably not exact details)
>Long drawn out battle
>Commander and chief of an army brigade general
>There are men missing arms and legs here a brutal holocaust, feels deep/profound like I got sucked in to the scene in shock, has the strongest energy
>Metal cages and plates of armor here, they are calling for me to go back
>Brutal death carcasses
>I oversee these men they are my responsibility
>Brigadier general they are stopping the flow of commerce into this area
>It was a long time ago I lost many men an untold story
>A solemn vow a wish for harm to not come to humans again

>French period Napoleon wars
>A gift of help gratitude
>I heard it through the grape vine they aren't coming to save us
>Meth (aggression), into the night
>Energy feels low and ends here like I went to sleep
>Generally not as high energy as the other one
I looked at your chart after and saw all the fire sign violence in it and looks like there is stuff in it for being a strategist so it makes sense.
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>>42297932
Holy shit, thank you? I have anger problems (and anxiety/depression) so that explains why
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>>42296489
Yeah. You would be good as a high ranking cop or a military general because of Sun in Leo + Mars in Scorpio.
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>>42260774
It's funny you say this. My Saturn is in Pisces in the 9th. In fact, a peculiarly large segment of my chart is in Pisces in the 9th.
My Saturn Return was fucking brutal, but so much of my chart resists the whole just do the hard work thing. Any advice on how to better acclimate to Saturn's rigid demands becoming so loosened or obstructed by the heavy Piscean influence in my chart?
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>>42259478
Same, but mine is in Capricorn

>still stuttering
>very bad at communication even though it's so important to me
>also brain damage
>also my mind is my worst enemy
>appear mature and smart until I open my mouth, then I come off either retarded or downright mean, usually both
>taciturn and crushed by the weight of my own thoughts
>control freak of my environment, of how I spend my time and who's allowed to be physically present with me

Saturn in 3H (after 1H) is just the worst, because it means it's in your head and in how you perceive immediate reality, which means you cannot escape it.
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I hate my saturn in 7th and what it does to my mars and pluto in 1st
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>>42259118
Mate, fuck your 8H stellium at least mine's in a different house. Still, you could be my Capricorn clusterfuck with Saturn on top piece of shit fren and we can get nuked together.
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>>42276764
>>42276919
I see a Pisces Ascendant, so pretty Mystical, aligning with a Pisces Moon, so some dreamy, detached qualities here, but I then also see Fortune in Virgo, a Neptune in Capricorn, a Mercury in Virgo and also a Vertex in Virgo. I see a Pluto in Sagittarius in the 9th (house of Spirituality).
Despite the chart indeed having a few very spiritual qualities, I find it to be very grounded (Earth is heaviest emphasis in this chart) in areas that are connected to Faith, Intellect and Divine Unity as per Jupiter, Mercury and Neptune.
We see tension between Earth and Water - dreamy qualities versus grounded qualities.
>What am I?
People think you're sort of detached and have a hard time understanding you. The same themes are on display for you internally; you're often lost in your own thoughts, dreaming about some shit that might happen one day (you often dream about the esoteric or spiritual ideas, for example - explaining your suggested spiritual focus over materialism). Overall, the trajectory of your chart is very balanced - not too much of this or that, but you lean heavily into Fire and then Earth energies, so very passionate and charismatic (some big exceptions since Mercury is Rx - hence people never really understanding you in combination with your Pisces Rising) especially in relationships.
You're obviously a woman. You probably do some kind of service work, likely with young people. You being around Sagittarius a lot isn't surprising as explorers or adventurous types seem drawn to you; you love deeply, have decent success in relationships and are a lot of fun when it comes to Romance. However, you had some tough issue with a relationship in the past and now it's hard for you to participate in a genuine give and take. I say lean into passionate experiences. Keep in mind, you have a lot of mutable so while you're balanced pretty well with cardinals (lots of Libra in there), you can make decent pivots when you need to. Don't feel so rigid.
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>no my birth chart is the worst
You're all a bunch of whiny pathetic faggots
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can someone explain what this means?
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>>42259118
that's the single most horrific chart. I'm sorry anon, how is your life? How are you?
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What are implications of having Moon Mars square in the chart?
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>>42304040
Lots of intense tensions between your actions and your feelings. You regularly feel things that make you do things and do things that make you feel things. Usually, the things that you experience as a result lead to dramatic tensions around you. This can be tempered or exaggerated immensely by other aspects of the chart, however.
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>>42259118
>everything is conjunct with everything else in capricorn
Ah shit
You WILL NOT release the built up energy
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>>42304047
I guess I need to sort my emotions out. Nice and clean.
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can someone read mine chart
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>>42303985
>you're often lost in your own thoughts, dreaming about some shit that might happen one day (you often dream about the esoteric or spiritual ideas, for example - explaining your suggested spiritual focus over materialism)
Literally fucking me
>I say lean into passionate experiences
>you can make decent pivots when you need to. Don't feel so rigid.
Thanks senpai, it's taken me a lot of time to get around to realizing this I'm only now just starting to do that
>Mercury is Rx
What does this mean exactly? I'm still trying to figure out how the charts fully work

Btw you're using the wrong chart, that time was slightly off my rising is actually Aries you can see it here >>42277904 It doesn't change too much but I thought it was worth noting. Also I'm a man xD, but I don't blame you for assuming that because my deep sense of empathy probably gives off feminine vibes. It makes it even more jarring with my rising being Aries, because I seem like this harsh person on the outside but I'm profoundly deep and emotional underneath, the type of person who looks like they'd be fine taking a punch but then is deeply hurt about it later on.
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>>42296458
the notion that planetary "energies" are able to inform every single facet of mind and body of every single person being born and every single event happening on earth in real-time 24/7/365, planetary "energies" running a googleplex of write operations per second like some fucking AI supercomputer, takes such an extreme leap of faith you need to be africa-tier retarded to believe it,... and calling it magic doesn't make it true

everything is fated, the celestial bodies are only a map of fate
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>>42306836
>he thought math was real
uh oh
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>>42259118
>soulless capricorn
>acts and feels the complete opposite of what he is
Cucked from birth. The Mars Venus combo is diabolical, seems like the only gf you'd ever attract is one who's an erratic leech/superficial whore and needs to solely rely on you to exist, probably with daddy issues too.
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>>42306249
Will I ever figure this shit out
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am i cooked? also why does everytime i show someone my chart they say that im a fag?
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>>42307069
sexy mfer
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>>42307069
You little fag
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>>42307069
I'd switch teams for you too
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>>42307069
>also why does everytime i show someone my chart they say that im a fag
Because it's true
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>>42306249
This does indicate problems with your self-perception and with one to one relationships, including romantic ones.
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>>42305906
What you are at the core and what you are attracted to is pretty much the same. But at the same time there's fog, illusion and unclarity with all this.
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>>42257887
I'm just impressed he has a house. Multiple even.
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>>42307069
>Sun Pisces
>Rising Scorpio
Very emotional here already, could be seen as "feminine" and Mars Sag basically turns all your interactions into overly emotional, flamboyant faggotry. Mercury Aquarius means you think in unconventional ways, like wanting to stick your dick in another man's asshole, which is faggotry obviously. Your Pluto is Sag too so you might secretly dream of becoming a faggot which carries over into your behaviour. Your North node is Gemini which is the faggiest sign, so you're basically coming into this life with giant faggot energy which is hard to dismiss because of the innate faggot energy already within you.

I don't know much about Capricorn energy, that might make you appear faggy as well but I'll let another anon chime in and help with this one.
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>>42308701
Capricorn energy is anything but faggy, mate. It's the antithesis of faggy, top chad energy but dressed in a suit
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>>42308794
So then we've established, in actuality he is indeed not a faggot, but appears so to others on the surface level. A type of "he seems like a massive faggot, but he's actually straight somehow" person. I've had class teachers like that in the past, where everyone was absolutely certain the guy was a massive faggot, then one day he'll be telling a story and mention is "wife" and you'd be absolutely flabbergasted about it.
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>>42307069
i'm free after 8
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>>42306764
>What does this mean exactly?
Basically, it means that when you talk to people, they think you're overly self-absorbed and hard to relate to. You often talk about yourself, your own experiences and what it's like to be or do things you are/do. You generally come off pretty confident or bold though, especially in the beginning. After they get to know you, their opinions really mellow out. To be clear, this chart is a bit less Spiritual if we exclude the Pluto Sagittarius in the 9th. Your Moon is a big exception too to be exact.
Anyway, Mercury Rx is a retrograde. Mercury is "moving backwards" in your chart at the time of birth. What it translates to is far deeper introspection: you have obsessions with secrecy (I'm guessing you cheat or have before, something of that caliber - not to get too personal, just reading it here) or maybe you freak out at people because of some shit that happened in your dreams or for expectations you don't communicate adequately. The worries about sounding retarded aren't quite as prominent now, but it's more like they think you're being overly confident about confusing things they don't really relate to since you speak from such a deep trench in you that other people just cannot peer into.
>I'm a man
Yeah, now that's a bit clearer. The Pisces ascendant sign pushed me over the edge about the woman thing, but it does feel like people have annoyed you before in telling you that you seem overly emotional. The reality is that's your Rx Mercury in Scorpio being deeply introspective in conjunction with your Aries Ascendant getting a bit too passionate about something (in reality, it's not quite what you're feeling - as what you feel is far more intense than most people could relate to).
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>>42307069
>>42308701
Well my chart is all Pisces and Sagittarius, so I'm not going to bother posting it ITT (even worse - Cancer Rising)...
Anyway, Capricorn is basically manifest climb on top of everything. If any sign was synonymous with being a Top, it'd be Capricorn.
At least my Mars is in Leo, I guess.
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>>42257887
I came here to ask exactly this question. Did you get a proper answer?
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>>42306764
>>42310222
Damn I'm blind. Ignore basically all of that. Your chart is very different than this.
Mercury is still Rx, but it's in Virgo, not Scorpio. Instead of being defensive, overly introspective (still very introspective to be clear) and pretty moody, you're very sharp. You probably annoy people with knowing too many details about things (and effectively communicating the details). Being in Rx is still a slight issue, but it's the most forgiving Rx placement you can have practically, so there's not a lot of drawbacks here in comparison to the usual. In contrast to before, this is a typically exceptional placement. Anyone with a Mercury in Virgo is about as lucky as they can get when it comes to Mercury since it's Exalted there. Every positive aspect of Virgo manifests in your ability to communicate thoughts, making you a deeply gifted communicator particularly in conjunction with Mars in Leo (one of the best placements possible for Leo second to Aries). Coincidentally, your Part of Fortune lines up with your Mercury, so you probably get into performative analytics like some sports show broadcaster where you get to talk about statistics all the time.
Also see that Uranus is Exalted in Aquarius but Rx as well. This is very interesting. You're nearing savant communicator category, anon. You're a naturally very gifted speaker and people like listening to you. They find you very charming, probably profoundly insightful. The Rx here makes the whole sudden insights thing that Uranus is known for very personal. You've likely experienced dramatic personal changes and they affected your career or public life... or that will happen at some point in the future to some degree.
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>>42310241
Look at the chart, dude. Each planet is in one of the houses and it says so in the inside ring - labeled one (1) through twelve (12).
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>>42310276
Dude there are only eight or nine planets in the soler system
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>>42310287
Right. The 1-12 is the Houses.
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>>42310316
Are there houses in the sky now?
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>>42310317
In Astrology.
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>>42310320
Where?
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>>42310338
Do you people ever get tired of this shit?
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>>42310350
Are these the twelve houses?
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>>42310376
Something like that. You should (You) it again. It'll be really funny.
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>>42310379
I don't understand
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A girl told me once I had possibly the worst star chart ever
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>>42310398
>girl
Only trust autistic chud males on astrology
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>>42308701
Thanks anon. I mean im kinda of a fag(bi) but not really yk, im not flamboyant at all, im mostly recluse and get called weird a lot but in a good, charming way tho.

>Your Pluto is Sag too so you might secretly dream of becoming a faggot
tf does this even mean bro..

My problems are with work tho idk what to do, a friend once read my chart and said i should just find an sugar mommy/daddy, someone powerful to bank me but ts is kinda lame, any other ideas to which career path should i follow?
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FUCK SATURN WHEREVER IT IS IN THE CHART

FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>42310655
Nah. Fuck jupiter. Jupiter aries means my rage will grow and grow. That's not good.
Jupiterian person will be doing random shit and making random money. But where's the structure? Where's the introspection and reflection?
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>>42310655
THIS. I thought I got rid of the saturn influence in my life but ITS STILL THERE SOMEHOW WHAT THE FUCK.
Saturn is the lord of karma? LORD THESE NUTS
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>>42310710
Neptune is more scary than saturn. Things are very clear with saturn. Neptune brings blindness.
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>>42310798
Some of us actually have to dodge karma man. I'm on the run from the astral police.
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>>42310798
at least a blind man does not see he is walking towards the edge of a cliff. You can overdose on Neptune but it's still a sweeter death

Saturn glues your eyes open and makes you crawl to the edge, begging for it, shows you the height, the landscape you'll fall onto, the skin and the bones that will break and it will slow down time so that you can take it in slow and real.

>>42310710
Things don't get better after Saturn Return, it's a LIE.
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this saturn meme is so dumb
it's really uranus transits behind all the life problems you faggots are blaming on saturn
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>>42311425
It's literally saturn and they give you le ironic punishments like a monkey paw. The weight it has isn't comparable.
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>>42310273
>You probably annoy people with knowing too many details about things (and effectively communicating the details).
Absolutely, and the Aries rising makes more sense now because when I know something is true I just say it how it is which comes across as very harsh to people, even though I ultimately mean well lol. If there's a bunch of lies and deceit in something I'm able to pinpoint exactly where it is and expose it with almost surgical precision, so I'm basically a threat to anyone who's fake or overly defensive. I've got Mars Leo too so when I have any opinion on anything I stand on the hill and defend it with my life. I've always wondered why people just refuse to listen to me even though I'm right about things like 95% of the time, but I realised my approach to explaining things probably comes of very bold and intimidating. They might mistake it as coming from a place of ego, but I don't speak on things unless I'm absolutely sure of them. Usually when people do finally listen to me they always thank me and say they've learned a lot from me, I've probably got the energy of one of those high school teachers that's scary as fuck to talk to but always has good lessons to teach.
>You're a naturally very gifted speaker and people like listening to you. They find you very charming, probably profoundly insightful.
Kek, pretty much what I was just saying. When I simmer down the heat people actually do enjoy talking to me, and they're like "wait this guy is actually kind of nice"
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Astrofags, I need help to understand. I'm Leo Rising at 29 degrees, but I don't feel it. My moon is in Virgo and my life and work has a lot of mercury out-of-bounds energy, my mercury is in Gemini and I think all of this points to me being virgo rising, which I would have been if I'd been born five minutes later. But I'm guessing they almost always get the birth time wrong by putting it later rather than sooner. How does the cusp shit work thanks for reading my blog
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>>42311589
>>42310273
I will say the difficult part is living with that Mercury Virgo and the Moon Pisces, as these two things define who I am the most. Especially with the Pisces being in the 12th house, I basically live and think in a completely different reality to everyone else. It's almost like I'm an outsider looking in, I see and feel things that other people don't see or even comprehend, which can make it difficult to 'translate' it into the real world. I have this deep and overwhelming sense of spiritual intuition and empathy that I can't even begin to describe, I can sort of tell people how they're feeling when they themselves don't even know. I would describe myself as a spiritual/emotional sponge, I can absorb the shit really well but if I try to squeeze it out it gets messy with all the other shit crammed in there too. Plus it leaves me very prone to emotional heaviness which is why I have to limit what I let in. The only way it comes out is through the Mercury Virgo, which can make sense of the chaos, but can also over analyze the fuck out of it to the point of mental exhaustion (classic Virgo). It means I'm an extremely creative person inside, but trying to bring the creativity out into reality is almost impossible. I think the only way I'd be able to be artistic is if I somehow mute the Virgo and let the emotions flow more freely, which is what I've been trying to do more lately but it's hard as fuck because once you're so used to using the gift it's hard to shut it off all of a sudden.
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>>42311560
>they give you le ironic punishments
This. I'm Saturn Aries and my South Node is Aries too, so in my past life I was probably some type of lone wolf renegade who probably hated working with people, and in this life I'm forced into being a Libra which is the complete opposite (the Sun is in 6th house too lmao) and Saturn is cucking my old nature saying "nah you're not allowed to be like that anymore, you have to help people now and uhh repent for your sins or something I guess"

While you do end up benefitting from it in the end, you basically have a third of your life robbed away from you and you're suffering the entire time up until that point, especially if it's in the 1st house. You basically get a robbed child/teenagehood which can make you seethe if that's the part of life you value the most. Saturn in the first house means you age backwards too, so you can't even relate to other children your age and only start relating to people when you're older, yet more robbed childhood.
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>>42311649
I was a nazi pilot and that was my punishment >>42311560.
I think I'm also the opposite of what I was because I'm very chaotic now but nazis are supposed to be strict. They also gave me a dad that was very strict to me so that I could experience the le ironing.
They gave me MANY le ironing moments that all went against nazi ideology.
Didn't work btw I fucking hate JEWS and I WOULD DO IT AGAIN.
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>>42257872

There is no worst.

Say your Saturn is opposite your part of fortune and you're living through Saturn mahadasha. Most people will flounder but it's giving you the chance to humbly accept that bearing challenges worthily is actually good fortune. Or say your atmakaraka planet and/or part of fortune sits with Ketu in the same house or is aspected by it, it's giving you a chance for moksha.

Saturn ruled by Sun in your first house (Leo lagna) signifies that humility is your golden ticket.
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>>42311705
Saturn is literally Jewish, so it would make sense he punishes anyone who's anti septic lmao. I probably killed kikes in the past and now this is my "punishment" but my chart is filled with spiritual enlightenment and the yearning to replace the status quo, not to mention I have a gift for waking people up and making them "notice" so I'm literally going to turn on them again lmao.

Saturn is a kike and here's the proof
>https://www.instagram.com/p/DXm4XtPRENt/
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>>42311758
You don't mind if I take a look at what your past life was right? Yeah you don't mind. Cool.
>He harmed her
>Chilling
>Domestic abuse
>Seems like he choked her out
>There is intense emotion and crying
>She is having trouble walking straight
>A rebirth a year after
>Notes to self in the rain
>Trying to find solace in awfulness
>Counting how many heads for a witch's trial
>Girl left him for another man and he took her life
>Strangulation
So saturn in aries huh that makes sense. Popping a nigga is as aries as it gets and they are trying to make you a soft boy now.
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>>42310493
>>Your Pluto is Sag too so you might secretly dream of becoming a faggot
>tf does this even mean bro..
Hahahaha I was just having a jab with that one. Actually it's in your first house so it outwardly shows to people, a lot of faggots wear their "transformative" self on the outside too instead of hiding it, so that alone might be what people mistake for the faggotry. You might be someone who's got that sort of "this is who I am and I'm not afraid to show it" personality which is synonymous with fags. Some see it as "charming" while others think you're a homo
>a friend once read my chart and said i should just find an sugar mommy/daddy, someone powerful to bank me but ts is kinda lame
It makes sense that you'd say that because that's probably the last person you'd want to pair with. You might appear faggy on the outside but you've got the more assertive control energy of the Capricorn underneath, in reality you should probably be the one providing not them. If you were a fag you'd be a power bottom
>ideas to which career path should i follow?
No idea either, you don't even have anything in your 10th house lmao. That's probably where your uncertainty comes from. You might be the type of person that likes going with the flow and doing whatever the fuck comes up at the present moment, your North Node is Gemini with is in conjunction with this theme. It's in the 7th house like mine too, so you'd probably do well working with other people, maybe something orientated around that? Something that can take advantage of the flamboyant persona and make use of it, like a real estate or sales person or something (just throwing shit out there)
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>>42311901
Actually I don't think I would've had a partner in my previous life, as for a matter of fact I don't even think my previous life was in this demiurge prison. I think if I did have previous lives here it was probably doing whatever the fuck I wanted without restraint or a care in the world, the type of person who'd just go rob and steal for the fun of it. Saturn has probably tried several times to put me in my place but has failed every time, sooner or later I end up breaking free from the control. If it's my first time he probably took one look at my soul and was like "holy shit we can't have you doing that here mate" and put chains on me, trying to soften me up by making me work with and cooperate with people. But while he did chain my drive forward he wasn't able to chain my spiritual sovereignty and freedom. That's probably where my real personality comes from, the desire to free other people from their chains and liberate them by showing them existence doesn't have to be living in a cage.

I say the thing about not having a partner too because I have this strong and overwhelming sense that my partner is in the next life, the one directly after this. I have no desire to find "love" here because to me it's ultimately superficial to the real love of joining with my soulmate. It's also going to be somewhere outside of this reality/universe too. So I'm probably someone who came in from the outside to dip their toes in, now I'm like fuck this I'm leaving, but decided to help people leave too if they want. That's what I've been able to discern so far anyway
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libra in moon, also leo decan 3 means I am ruled by mars, but mars is gemini, what does that mean
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>>42311758
Nice "1930 cartoon" bro. Share ur prompt?
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I'm noticing a theme here with all the Sag Plutos. Almost every single chart has it, I'm guessing /x/ has some way of attracting Sag Pluto specifically? It's either that of Scorpio Pluto
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>>42312041
Not my video, but it literally explains where the clip comes from. Cope.
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>>42312046
retard
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>>42312046
>I'm noticing a theme here with all the Sag Plutos. Almost every single chart has it, I'm guessing /x/ has some way of attracting Sag Pluto specifically? It's either that of Scorpio Pluto
>doesn't know that Pluto is a slow-moving generational planet
4chan posters are Millennial and or Gen Z, who would've guessed?
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>>42311992
Your mind is saying sacrilege but there is a deeper knowing lower that connects to the idea strongly. That's all I'll say.
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>>42312079
Say more though, do you mean I think of my own nature as something evil that needs to be contained because it's what I've been told?
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>>42312065
>>42312071
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>>42312100
No, I'm talking about the wife beater stuff. A deeper part of you knows what that is.
They didn't fuck you for no reason.
I can feel it right now, your soul knows.
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>>42312153
I wouldn't have been a wife beater, but okay. I wouldn't of even had a wife in the first place to beat
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>>42311605
A few things.
29 degrees makes the energy of the sign weaker. You will have influence from the next sign for sure.
Also rising signs matter less than some people think they do.
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>>42310919
>Saturn glues your eyes open and makes you crawl to the edge, begging for it, shows you the height, the landscape you'll fall onto, the skin and the bones that will break and it will slow down time so that you can take it in slow and real.
Good. I want to know what's happening.
>Things don't get better after Saturn Return, it's a LIE.
But did things change for you after your return? It doesn't have to be positive. For some it's you're fucked forever after the return. You lock in being miserable for life.
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>>42311425
It's Saturn and Chiron too. At least Saturn hides behind the pretense of tough love and wanting you to grow but the Chiron emo bitch is only about suffering and moping with no end or healing in sight
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>>42311649
>>42311560
My Saturn & NN are literally conjunct, pajeet astro say this is a curse from a past life. Supposedly I was probably some priest or emotional priest relying on tradition, tribe, philosophies and intuition (Cancer 9H) and now I'm supposedly to just close my heart and soul to everything and become a grinding robot or what

I don't know if the Draconic chart has anything to do with past life but I rather look at that than my current nodes. Does anybody know what the Draconic chart would represent?
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>>42311992
>I say the thing about not having a partner too because I have this strong and overwhelming sense that my partner is in the next life, the one directly after this.
That's sad man, gave me the feel
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>>42312904
It sucks at first, but you learn to find comfort in it. The loneliness can still be crippling at times though.
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>>42257872
Saturn in my 1st house made me sexy rich and famous, skill issue
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>>42312891
>now I'm supposedly to just close my heart and soul to everything and become a grinding robot or what
Right? The Saturn cucking gives me the vibe of teaching lessons to good goys, while putting the rebels back in their place. It's like we're not allowed to be who we are, instead we need to be what the system wants from us. It probably wasn't always like this though, I get the feeling that at one point in time things were more "natural" but then someone or something hijacked the system and industrialized it. It would make sense that the people who stick out the most are the ones who get punished the most, because they're the liability to the whole factory. It's like they keep you in constant limbo for some sick otherworldly purpose we don't fully understand or comprehend. Maybe it's the loosh farm or maybe it's something else, who knows. Either way fuck the system
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>>42313061
Or maybe you face more resistance to draw forth more strength to conquer it
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>>42313056
What sign though? I'm guessing Capricorn or some shit
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very new to astrology, what does my chart read?
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>>42313062
>face more resistance
>become Aries to fight the resistance
>die and get brought back
>South node is in Aries so you're forced into being a Libra again
>Saturn cucks you in the first house as well
>break free and reject it
>face resistance again
>repeat
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>>42313063
Leo
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>>42313073
Well there you go
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>>42313061
It only tries to break the spirits of those who are important, strong or too dangerous for the cosmic narrative
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>>42313063
I can personally confirm that Saturn in Capricorn would never EVER bestow such gifts. Saturn in Capricorn is tyranny on steroids, next worst in line is probably Aries. Ofc the faggot has everything easy with Saturn in Leo
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>>42313083
So literally me then?
>inb4 ego
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>>42313087
How bad is it? My Rising Aries was cucked by Saturn so I literally had 30 years of my life robbed away for extra "control" or some bs.
>Ofc the faggot has everything easy with Saturn in Leo
That's what I thought
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>>42313087
Bad read. Saturn leo can hate themselves and think they're ugly. Self esteem issues likely.
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>>42313108
>cucked by Saturn so I literally had 30 years of my life robbed away for extra "control" or some bs.
Same except it keeps going. But my rising is in Scorpio with Pluto there conjunct Fortune and let me tell you this is another bitch that won't loosen up and makes everything worse. Even has the audacity to tell me that when I suffer and die, I am actually blessed with fortune or something fucking kek

>dont worry bro you'll level up with your next saturn return
kind reminder IT DOES NOT GET BETTER AFTER YOUR SATURN RETURN. At best, YOU become the ABUSER. More SATURN. I can feel Saturn foaming in Aries fucking up your entire chart
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at least Saturn does not take long in a sign so in a couple of years, it will be all over with Aries

i agree with Pluto though, that one takes such a long time and it's literally just Hades raping you over and over while calling you endearingly his king or queen of the underworld
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>>42313128
>Even has the audacity to tell me that when I suffer and die, I am actually blessed with fortune or something fucking kek
gg go next, kek
>I can feel Saturn foaming in Aries fucking up your entire chart
I know right. It's like a boiling kettle where the opening is almost completely covered, just enough to bottle up pressure the most amount possible but not enough to make the thing explode completely. It's like you're living in this perpetual seethe 24/7 that only gets worse and worse. Thank fuck I can retreat into my Pisces moon to cool down otherwise I'd have lost the plot completely by now.

>>42313110
>Self esteem issues?
Yes
>Public image, career and money problems?
Absolutely not

>>42313134
ARRRRIEEEEEEEEEES!!!
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>>42313236
I have no Aries placements and I thought Saturn in Pisces was bad, though I could not quite put my finger on what was bad about it. But it feels like all personal misfortunes have accelerated since Saturn crossed into Aries. I don't even have the will or energy to seethe at the moment...

>like a boiling kettle where the opening is almost completely covered, just enough to bottle up pressure the most amount possible but not enough to make the thing explode completely. It's like you're living in this perpetual seethe 24/7 that only gets worse and worse.
I can only imagine how it feels for Aries people

I never considered Pisces an escape valve for this - on the contrary, even though I would not pin it as a "deep" one, I see it as a sensitive, although diffuse moon. You're probably dissociating while sliding on the surface of the horrors inflicted on you, or escaping into other pursuits and outlets (of creative, maybe spiritual kind?)
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>>42313274
Having pisces anywhere is like being perpetually high on benzos
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>>42313281
Can confirm, my friend has Pisces Moon and his emotions are barely there. He thinks he's the wise brave diver into the deep dark waters of life and human nature, but he just dips his toes in it, gets shell shocked and then dives first into the first distraction he can find. If he allows himself a single thought, he spirals into insomnia kek the faggot cannot handle it
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>>42313281
>>42313340
>Pisces Moon
Try Pisces Moon (12th house) with Mercury Rx Exalted. Imagine saying something embarrassing to someone then instead of letting it go you over analyze it 50+ times with the power of a thousand suns. I'm basically at risk of having a mental breakdown if I accidentally fart in an elevator. If someone upsets me my entire week is ruined. If I actually do have a mental breakdown it lasts 10x longer than it should. My mind is so vivid that if I get raped in a dream I've basically been raped in real life too.

It's so fucking bad you can't even begin to imagine, I can help people but at what cost
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>>42313447
>My mind is so vivid that if I get raped in a dream I've basically been raped in real life too.
"you raped me in my dream, i was 10 years old" is a frank hassle bit. He goes up to people in the grocery store and says it to them.
>>42313340
It seems like cancer is the only decent water sign to have in your moon. I have it, it's not too bad. I'm sure that i would be crazier with pisces or scorpio there.
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No idea what this means
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>>42313457
>He goes up to people in the grocery store and says it to them.
Kek
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>>42313458
You come off as intimidating or intellectual in superficial interactions, but when people get to know you, you are more chill, but also more stubborn.
Self esteem issues likely. You will develop as a person by exploring /x/ type of topics. Venus and mars being in air signs i am not sure what that is. IMay be problems with committing to people and tasks, but it may also increase your IQ.
Having no air signs anywhere signifies a weaker intellect. You not completely retarded.
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>>42313458
Judging by the first glance Asc/Sun/Moon combo - you larp as cool and quirky on the outside but you're actually a really aggressive/stubborn person. Though, with the Mercury Pisces and Mars Gemini you are probably more flexible than you let on.
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>>42313447
>I'm basically at risk of having a mental breakdown if I accidentally fart in an elevator.
This is exactly how I imagine Pisces kek
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Saturn in the 1st house in Aries
Saturn trine Lilith
Saturn sextile Uranus
Saturn trine Pluto

Very lonely. Im bad at everything. Dont enjoy anything. Its impossible for me to connect with anyone without drugs or alcohol. But Im proud for not killing myself so far and my few small accomplishments.

If anyone has a deeper understanding Id appreciate it.
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>>42313457
Well Cancer is the Moon's domain so it would be dignified there, but also pretty emotional. In a woman, it would probably be overbearing and suffocating, but in men it would likely manifest as more defensive and withdrawn.

Tbh I find Capricorn Moon to be the better one even though it's supposedly in detriment, but it depends on what your aim is. I don't say it because it's mine (or maybe I do?), but at least it's productive and will help you get shit down in spite of your woes, cause unfortunately life still happens whatever you feel. And at the end of the day nobody will know just how despairingly suicidal you are, so you won't be bothering anyone either and nobody will be bothering you either. But a lot of other factors can help or worsen it - house, aspects, how balanced or airy or stuck the rest of the chart is, etc.
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>>42313281
>>42313447
>>42313496
i gotta jump on the fun pisces roast bandwagon, even though i have no pisces. but my moon conjuncts neptune and it's literal hell on earth.

i'm either religiously high on some idea, thought, feeling, fantasy, or i'm having a mental breakdown and on the verge of depressive psychosis. i don't know how people in modern times can live with this, would have been some scam seer in the old day but now i'm just on fucking pills
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>>42313492
This depiction seems pretty accurate too imo
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>>42313447
>if I get raped in a dream I've basically been raped in real life too.
t. typical white bitch
too bad the law won't let you rape hoax a dream character huh? better take it out then on the nearest white man you can find, whore
>>42311560
it's literally not (always)
I guess you need to live a lot longer to experience both saturn and uranus transits enough to tell the difference. I have saturn natally in the 1st like OP and the "influence" as you call it is only melancholic and weighty but not disastrous. The saturn meme seems to be made up by astrology noob zoomers having a bad uranus transit or other transits aspecting their natal uranus and they're scapegoating ye olde greater malefic, just like their astrology cookbooks told them to.
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>>42313545
>too bad the law won't let you rape hoax a dream character huh? better take it out then on the nearest white man you can find
What does this even mean? What the fuck Anon
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>>42257872
How cooked am I?
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>>42313555
As much as I hate Saturn, which still sucks the most, I have to agree with you that Uranus transits can be disastrous as well. When it transits a house, mostly nothing happens but you get an itch you can't reasonably scratch without tearing into the flesh. And then overnight, your life or [insert thing or relationship you were attached to] falls apart apparently without reason.

All outer planets are destabilizing and it all starts with the threshold fucker Saturn
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>>42313816
I don't wanna sound like a bastard or nuthin' but you are really fortunate if uranus transits only produce an "itch" and a failed relationshit. I don't know if it's because of my chart's highly peculiar nature (*my* nature) or because I have an aquarius sun, but my uranus transits are always about external forces, people and events, hitting like an atom bomb to fucking destroy everything forever. They make the worst of my saturn transits look attractive by comparison. I dunno....

Maybe I'm wrong and saturn really does hit you people harder than anything for some strange reason? I'm a non-human soul so maybe the dynamics work different or something.
>>42313556
I didn't mean it, I'd just woke up and felt like lashing out, I'm drunk now and feeling better
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I have basically everything in my first house :,(
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>>42313941
holy shit son
what do you look like?
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>>42257872
What about Jupiter and Saturn in your 1st house?
Any idea about that?
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>>42313938
How did Uranus hit you, what houses, story time? Sorry to hear that. Yeah as an Aqua Sun Uranus is your co-daddy with Saturn lol

I only got to be "sentient" - feel and track the experience of Uranus through:
>6H Aries
The "itch" translated into reinventing my daily habits and how I related to my body. From eating bags of candy, fast food, having drawers stuffed with shit food all day, I went from that to drinking green tea, eating clean (not even fried food or microwaved) and becoming a gym rat (going 3 times a day aside from martial arts classes fr). I had a 6pack and felt stronk and smart (would read difficult literature daily). I also ended up working in the police force for some reason. Craziest shit happened there (including life-threatening) so being tough in body and mind helped me.

Towards the end of the transit through 6H it passed into Taurus and I got the comfiest most liberating job (the complete opposite of police work). Everything changed. I had to work, think, speak and relate differently.

>7H Taurus
Broke up with my ex but then got in a better relationship. Lost friends, a lot of family (died), my healthy lifestyle stagnated, moved out, became a hermit, lost money in a bad investment. Then an "itch" came over me, a constant restlessness, anger and frustration with everything and my relationship almost blew up a few times, lost my comfy job and I'm about to lose my sanity as well.

I don't think it's going to get better once it moves into Gemini 8H. I was crushing on Uranus until lately when everything started going to shit towards the end of Taurus transit (it's when it started conjuncting Mars and opposing Pluto for me).

But yeah it's rarely ever just *one* planet stirring up shit, it always has accomplices or collaborators in other parts of the transit chart. And if your natal chart is prone to chaos, RIP
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G-guys? This is apparently my 9/10 dream gf...
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>>42314047
I'm just adding Uranus and Neptune now and things are starting to make sense
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I know it's AI slop, but it's genuinely terrifying how spot on it is, it's apparently a "9.6/10"
>I'm Person B for context
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Guess that settles it. I have a thing for Aquarius chicks.
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>>42257872
I have a strong Saturnian chart, though 7th house for me. Aquarius sun and Leo rising. I don't think I'm a pathetic loser but I have been described as an alien pretending to be human on the odd occasion.
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>>42314151
>alien pretending to be human
>Aquarius sun
>Leo rising
That's because you pretty much are. Aquarius is basically being an alien, and you're trying to cover it up with Leo. Makes sense that people see through the facade, you weird quirky little alien.
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Any anons care to read my chart for me, astrology is not my strong suit. Would be useful to know this stuff for where I am headed
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>>42313553
>>42313281
my bf is pisces moon libra sun and his benzo advice and outlook pisses me off
>dont worry be happy
>dont think bad thoughts, that's why you attract bad things
>i think good thoughts and my life is good
>it will pass
>dont be a drama queen
>everything is going to be FINE

I swear I will choke him in my sleep one night if he keeps dropping me those wise ass simplistic bits of life advice. i'm glad it works for him, but i'm a saturnian my life aint on no tutorial bitch mode

to protect his well being, i have shut him out from my struggles in life and will deal with this miserably on my own, as saturn intended
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>>42314269
>>dont worry be happy
>>dont think bad thoughts, that's why you attract bad things
He was right though, usually only Pisces Moon people can understand this (maybe Scorpio or Virgo too), but people always take it personally and the wrong way when we try to explain it to them. He's explaining the basic law of attraction to you, if you do indeed constantly seethe and fester in bad thoughts your life will get progressively shit because of it. You have to somehow learn to be happy in the dogshit chaos, I know it seems impossible but it really is your only way out when you live in the Saturn cube.
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>>42314316
>gets the shit end of the stick 24/7
>nah, just think about the positive side
You cannot be real
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>>42314403
I'm just telling you how it is Sister
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>>42257872

I have the same. This one gets better with age. Keep working on your body and your soul as Saturn commands.

Saturn does not give confidence for free, but it can give something heavier and more lasting. Not the easy golden retriever Leo rising charisma, but a more severe / sculpted / magnetic presence after you've actually built yourself.

The striking features can also come in later. Facial bone structure, austerity, “hard to ignore”. It can be weird to suddenly realize people respond to you differently or can’t look away.

Pure Leo can have downsides: laziness, vanity, dependence on easy attention. Read it less like Leo ruined forever and more like Leo being forced through Saturn’s gate.
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>>42314462
Isnt Saturn usually associated with ugliness?
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>>42314817

...really?

you are harsh on yourself, which fucks up confidence leo wants badly but can go well if you act on it
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Venus detriment
Mars detriment
retrograde Jupiter detriment
retrograde Saturn detriment
retrograde North node

My life is absolute cinema
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>>42314164
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>>42257872
Saturn is just what you’re a coldfish and failure at right? My Saturn is in the 8th house. I think that’s why I’m not sexy or sexually attractive at all. It nerfed my 8th house sex appeal.
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>>42313513
I have capricorn sun. So nobody knows how deeply i feel. Not a water chart for me otherwise. Learning astrology helped me discover/create an identity for myself. I am also more empathetic towards others now. Used to dislike my parents. Now i don't. It's not their fault they have aries in sun or moon.
>>42314237
Manchild, but also stubborn glutton. Hard worker. Being prideful and selfish will bring you positive results.
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>>42308701
>is Gemini which is the faggiest sign
Fuck you faggot, Gemini is the best sign, there's nothing faggoty about it.
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>>42314462
What am I gonna do with that sever sculpted magnetic presence and confidence once I'm 90 yr old, if I will ever get it at all?
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>>42314958
Nodes are almost always retrograde. But at least Saturn is in his 12H joy and well aspected
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>>42315222
Mine is in the 3rd house. Does that mean I'm retarded?
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>>42315267
>Manchild
>stubborn glutton
I can see it, in a sort of abstract way. I'm not a textbook manchild per se, but I have a strong resistance to authority, which can be interpreted as childish if someone is weak willed. As for the glutton aspect, I do enjoy excess, just not in food. I enjoy the excess of life and passion. Generally, what you've said, although vague, I can see in some offshoot way. My next question is are these simply the negative attributes of my chart's combos and there are good positives (whether from transmuting the seemingly negative traits you gave or there are anymoar good shit in there). Also ty for the reply and advice, champ
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Anyone got some time to kill to read my chart?
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Will I get reincarnated to suffer again if I kill myself?
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>>42257872
shower with hot water and get more sunlight
...6-8am should be 1st house time,
have saturn moon in 2nd
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>>42257872
Stop blaming your genetic inferiority on third world shithole mythology.
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>>42313997
>>42313941
Anon looks like a very handsome goat.
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>>42316311
I asked him a real question, keep your jew shit to yourself
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>>42316359
Okay, but that's literally how people see him, dude. I answered the question.
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>>42316015
>third world shithole mythology.
But enough about christianity
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what the fuck does any of this mean
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>>42308637
This greedy fucker has TWELVE houses, can you believe it?
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Is Saturn in Aquarius better?
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>>42318271
better how?
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>>42318271
yes it's better to have Saturn in rulership
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>>42318297
>>42318340
as in is he less of a raving tyrant than in Capricorn or Aries? Feels like these are the worst to have Saturn in and the most anons around here scream about
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>>42318531
It probably also depends on the house too. I think that most anons scream (and for a good reason) if it's in the first house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ
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>>42318531
>>42318271
Saturn is at home in Capricorn. Aries in Saturn causes Saturnian energies to be very abrupt (quick lessons for example) and is definitely one of his worst signs. But Saturn is exalted in Capricorn. He's not a "raving Tyrant" in Capricorn, but very forgiving.
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>>42319996
Why am I constantly suffering then? Did he not get the memo that he should be forgiving in Capricorn, or is some other planetfag fucking me up from somewhere else, blaming it on Saturn when I should actually be fren with Saturn instead
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>>42320073
I have no way of knowing if I can't see the rest of the chart.
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>>42320091
>>42315609
this one. Suffering just seems to accumulate and I can't show or release it. If I let go or lose control a bit, it's ogre
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>>42316514
It says you're a massive shapeshifing nothing. But also think about traveling or do travel.
And aslo have too high standards from other people, including potential romantic partners.
You're mitivated to get things done when you get attention and praise for it.
First impression you give to people is cold, wierd, but also intellectual.
You'll get power and opportunities by working hard.
You seem to have doubt wound or trauma relating to sex and death.
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My chart looks so different than most I see. Does it mean something??
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>>42321930
They tell me (I'm not going to be less ambiguous about this) that the result of anhero is at best Round 2 Another Suicidaroo. Loads of the people around the Libertine era got into this whole "material world is evil! we must anhero!" business and the rest of the Mystic world very frankly called them all retards.
With the weird cryptic shit few people should be able to relate to out of the way:
>>42315609
>>42319996
I'm still in the learning Astrology phase. Saturn is NOT exalted in Capricorn. Saturn is at home in Capricorn, however. Instead, Saturn is exalted in Libra, not Capricorn. Libra's hearty balance is the perfect conduit for Saturn; all of his intensity is leveled out in Libra, the straight lines he draws pleases her immensely and Libra frankly doesn't mind being disciplined - instead it sort of suits her. In fact, Libra would have found a way to get the discipline to bring things in to balance around her regardless of Saturn's influence. As for Capricorn, though not exalted, Saturn is at home and thus the Capricorn mode of being for Saturn is very suiting; Capricorn revels in the disciplined structure Saturn makes inevitable, all the maturity themes Saturn heaves at us at his leisure become much easier to manage for him and, probably most importantly, Saturn provides the frameworks that Capricorn can't help but summit.
>Why am I suffering?
Ah, you're the guy that mounts everything rather hilariously. Look, everything is in your 3rd house, anon. Whatever is going wrong with you is because someone is upset by what you've said. What you say to people feels very pragmatic, rigid and forward. You often talk about material success and this may come off a bit too strong to people.
I think your big thing is your Chiron in Cancer Rx. Maybe your speech is very guarded because you can't integrate your Chiron effectively. You do also have Pluto in Scorpio, which is intensely introspective, leading you to obsess over your self-image.
Does that sound better?
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>>42320073
>>42324632
Also, without mentioning your age (Saturn Return has a pretty static timeframe structure, but I won't say much more to preserve your privacy), you're past your Saturn Return. I say revisit what you learned around the time of the Plandemic. The themes for you were heavily focused on integrating the deep introspection you feel and others see in you with your pretty authoritative and forward speech mechanisms. Frankly, you can definitely turn this around, anon. Tomorrow will be a big day for you. Take it easy and don't be too hard on yourself. You'll be struggling with being lost in thought all day. Again, I'm still not exactly good at this, but it looks like your chart find a lot of solace in conquering something. I'm not exactly saying you should go climb a mountain, but based on your chart it, again pretty funnily, seems comically apt. You're also a bit of a nerd (Venus in Aquarius), so maybe you combine learning something that interests you with a few small wins, a medium win or two and especially a big win. Have you gotten laid recently? Maybe next weekend is a good time for an escapade. You're not exactly the romantic type, but socializing is a breeze for you if you can find ways to lean into your more introspective side without also conveying too much of Scorpio's guarded nature.
Hopefully that gives you a bit to work with. Again, I'm still learning, but your chart is a fun one.
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>>42324632
>>42324683
Thanks anon, not sure why you keep finding my chart fun/comic, though I don't mind it, but your reading is pretty good. I'm very quiet because my mouth gets me in trouble and I trigger people with my ideas and observations, or probably the words I choose for them. But they trigger me into talking shit at them too. I've been called mean, critical, pessimistic, catastrophizing, etc. and while I hardly get taken seriously, a lot of people are disturbed when I talk to them. It does not help that I either talk too fast, or too slow, too vague or too heavy

Come to think of it, life turned around for me for the best during my Saturn Return. My ambitions fell apart, but it gave me in return the job I never knew I needed and come to like (the work environment and culture, not the field). For once, nobody doubted my capability, my knowledge, my words and I was equal with others, while also trusted in my own authority and approach. But I cannot for the life of me understand if this was the Saturn return thing or Uranus in the last degrees of 6H had anything to do with this.
I'm already fren with Uranus, should I become fren with Saturn too after all?
>I think your big thing is your Chiron in Cancer Rx
Has this bitch setting me up all the time and pointing the finger at Saturn? I'll go read more on this. BRING JUSTICE TO SATURN

>but it looks like your chart find a lot of solace in conquering something. I'm not exactly saying you should go climb a mountain
True, always forced to do this desu and it's exhausting. Somehow most of the mountains are internal? So nobody around me believes the internal torment since it's not as visible to them, or think the felt struggle is the same as theirs when everything feels harder for me. But I've been thinking of literally climbing a mountain lately to mark the success both symbolically and literally
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>>42327138
forgot the pic
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>>42257895
It's like taking away mask layers. The first mask is your ascendant, then the sun and when you really get to know someone, you get to experience their moon and maybe venus signs.
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>>42327138
>not sure why you keep finding my chart fun/comic
Do you know how rare it is to see basically an entire chart of Capricorn, anon? The Uranus and Neptune part is a big catch, don't get me wrong (again, I can tell things about you based on your chart with a reliable degree of accuracy, but won't elaborate for obvious reasons), but that's certainly not the extent of the Capricorn presence in your chart. It's pervasive; you have all three main personal planets in Capricorn so your personality is totally aligned, Saturn (at home in Capricorn), two of three outer planets in Capricorn (again, pretty common currently) and your North Node all in Capricorn. You also have Pluto in Scorpio, the sign he rules. You then have Scorpio also in your Rising, making it how you relate to people or what they commonly see in you (at least at first).
Yes, that is fun. Imagining you climbing on everything and crying about it the whole time is also very funny (not to be mean, it's just how I'm picturing it). You're both inexhaustible (it's part of why people get annoyed with you) and obsessively introspective. Everything you do, you spend a ton of time thinking about it.
>>42327143
Yeah, basically this, just not so much directed at saturn though; it's more like you shout-pouting while you climb on top of someone else to their utter annoyance. Most of what's so comical about it is you constantly mogging people but also sobbing while you do it. It just looks confusing to everyone. Don't get me wrong, they're all enamored - just not exactly in a coherent way.
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>>42327445
Are you more into pluto capricorn or pluto aquarius girls
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>>42327445
>Imagining you climbing on everything and crying about it the whole time is also very funny (not to be mean, it's just how I'm picturing it).
real, I do that. I can't even play games if they're easy or I'm using cheats it ruins it for me. I guess that's why I'll never have an easy life
>obsessively introspective. Everything you do, you spend a ton of time thinking about it.
IF i even end up doing it cause I waste all my energy doing it in my head and I don't want/need it anymore afterwards

>Do you know how rare it is to see basically an entire chart of Capricorn, anon?
Thanks, I feel rare now. I did see another rogue heavy Cap anon in this thread or the other, born around the same time as me. I'd say he was worse off than me bc I remember his was 8H stellium phew wouldn't want to be that guy
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>>42327381
>everyone is just masks
some people aren't fake ass NPCs with no identity and when you really really really really really get to know them you're still seeing their ascendant and sun, lol
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>>42329263
this
>>42327381
Some sources say you grow into your ascendant after 30, some say it's only valid until that age. Some say "it's just a mask" but then it's also somehow the entry point for your soul and the entry and start point for your chart, and its ruler is so important it's called a chart ruler and colors your entire personality
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>>42329299
Ascendant is only important because houses are determined from it. On it's own it's not the key understanding who a person is.
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I have saturn in 7th house, chiron in 1st house.
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I'd say it's saturn square mercury which makes your speech babbled sometimes, even though you're thoughts are clear, and also I have saturn in aries at 1degree.
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>>42324087
>>42316514
I swear i did one of these a while ago and it looked something like these. Now it looks like this.
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>>42257872
Part of my chart that I hate most is Sun-Saturn conjunct. Makes it a nightmare to do most anything.
Aside from that, anyone willing to lend a pair of eyes to my chart? I'm pursuing art and the occult.
>>42306249
>Saturn in the 12th in Aquarius
Your chart ruler is in the sign and house of it's dignity. You're probably a thin, wiry kind of person, and the things that you set out to accomplish will probably bring success; at least after 30 (I can tell that you're prob ~35).
>Cap moon in the 12th
Do you have a bad / absent mother? Your emotional world really seems dark and in a bad place.
From your sun's house location, I'm willing to bet your father was the better of the two parents.
>7th ruler in seventh
A good way to find happiness would be to try and find a wife; such a thing would turn out happy.
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>>42329299
>>42329316
Ascendant is more the general consensus people have after just meeting you. Charts also specifically say in what ways (and sometimes with whom) most of us relate to others. Often determined by Venus, as an example, it's important to also consider what happens after the ice is broken, as that matters more for how people see you than just the initial reaction.
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Why do so many anons have 7th house Saturn?
Is it the mark of the incel?
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>>42329783
Karmic blowback for being a dick to your past life wife
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>>42329783
My boyfriend has it. Am I his karmic burden? I'm afraid that's what it means
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>saturn trine venus
>late marriage
more like in next life
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>>42333055
I'm still learning the basics, but what about a trine between Saturn and Venus means you have to wait?
My Mercury, Saturn and Part of Fortune are all in my 9th House. Does that mean I can't communicate effectively or earn any money as a result of deeper learning (specifically about myself and in my dreams or whatever since they're all Pisces) until after my Saturn Return?
Any insights are helpful, really. I think I sort of have the hang of it, but I guess I'm more looking for confirmation here.
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complete noob, is anyone able to read my chart? is it good or bad?
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>>42329782
>Charts also specifically say in what ways (and sometimes with whom) most of us relate to others. Often determined by Venus, as an example,
Certainly. Me with venus in scorpio. I will straight up tell women that i want to have them as property.



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