I believe, it's having Saturn in your 1st house. It's ruined my life and body. I'm a leo rising but it took away all the good qualities of leo and made me a pathetic loser. I'm curious what you anons think is the worst placement?
>>42257872How'd you get a planet in your house?
I act more like my moon sign because I'm so introverted.
I have it, too, in conjunction with pluto. It's not the reason we're fucked up though, there's no such thing as "planetary energies." All it does it reflect what's fated for you in that area of life, same as any other placement or aspect. Everything is fated, astrology is just a map of fate.
>>42257872I don't mind being a hermit.
>>42257872It is probably a Saturn Aspect for sure. I will throw out Saturn Square Venus which I have as pretty nasty.>>42257904I think this is very possible but I am not 100% sure. Astrology may simply be a map of our souls. I do think negative aspects are usually past life related and despite what people think karma means, it is more a reflection of unresolved issues at a soul level. Someone gets brutally raped in their past life for example and they may have an aspect that harms their sexual relationships.
>>42257904this 100%calling it "planetary energy" is silly. It's a map, and it goes hand-in-hand with the Tree of Life, and tarot cards. Especially if you use a Thoth deck.The actual material physical planet Saturn has no direct influence on your life in any way, but what Saturn as an archetype represents symbolically is a real thing that does influence your life unconsciously.
>>42257872I'm the same yet I'm successful at everything I do. I've got some bad news for you op: it's 100% just you being a loser and quitter, with nothing else to blame for it.
>>42257872>Leo rising I think that will mostly outweigh it.I have Saturn in the 1st house and I'm am Aquarius/Pisces rising. I'd like to swap thanks
Saturn on your chart is not always bad. It depends on a number of things. You need to consider exaltations and detriments, and you need to look at the placement in the decans, and you should consider whether your chart is a day chart or a night chart, and you also want to look at their proximity to your Sun and Moon, as well as any aspects with them, or any other planets or signs or houses.Reading a chart is a complicated, very long process that can take a while and requires patience and devotion to really pick out all the nuances and get a detailed picture of your fate.This is not even mentioning things like Lots.What I am describing is the way astrology was done during the medieval and rennaisance periods. If you are interested in traditional hellenistic and medieval astrology, rather than modern psychological astrology, you should check out a dude named Chris Brennan on youtube. His book is practically a college graduate course textbook on astrology and it's extremely academic and covers literally everything going back to like the dawn of astrology.
>>42258348You sound very well read. Would you be open to reading my chart please?
Idk I think Saturn is kinda cool
>>42258348>>42258905Does my have any negative communications to do with Saturn or anything?
>>42258348Was greek astrology purely about predicting the future?
>>42258905>2009
>>42257872interesting i am leo rising but the sun, my ruling planet is in capricorn conjunct saturn so i wondered if that's why i'm not blessed with the typical benefits of leo rising.
>>42258348I need help bros.
just kill me or nuke my soul into the abyss. I don’t want to live on this dumpster fire of a planet anymore. fuck the angels and demons, fuck the asuras and devas, and fuck Jesus and Satan. Fuck all of you. Nuke me or so help me God you’ll have me on your hands!
>>42257872I have Saturn in the 7th. Let's just say be happy that you have people around you at all to perceive you as a loser.
I have Pluto in Scorpio on the 12th but it's conjunct my ascendant (Sagi)>I am the scapegoat of my narcissist family >People hate me or are scared of me>I see things like ghosts/auras or just plain schizo idc>Everything I have predicted turned out true with or without the tarot/astrology >People say I'm intimidatingThen Saturn in the 3rd house of aquarius >Autistic and ADHD>Stuttering until my adulthood >Literal brain damage >Phobias (agoraphobia, pyrophobia)>Somehow still got 145 IQ (did the tests twice with professionals)
>>42259118How fucking old are you kids?
>>4225980832 male, not young in the slightest
>>42259478Then Saturn in the 3rd house of aquarius>Autistic and ADHD>Stuttering until my adulthood>Literal brain damage>Phobias (agoraphobia, pyrophobia)>Somehow still got 145 IQ (did the tests twice with professionals)Anon >>42257976 here, have same placement, also actual sperg but got the Rainman powers too.
>>42258905Saturn can be cool. He is just a very strict old man who cares about you so he goes hard on you because you need to learn discipline and strength. It's not easy but it builds character. Don't think of Saturn as just "bad", think of him as setting limits so things don't go to waste. Often Saturn is actually the force that rescues you from your own stupidity, but to us that always feels like a bummer because it means the party time is over and now we have to get to work.But if you enjoy hard work, and the rewards that come from it, Saturn is your guy.
>>42258931More or less, yes. They didn't use it for psychological profiling obviously because they didn't have psychology or psychological concepts. Everything was supersition and spirituality, which back then served the same purpose therapy serves today. Except, back then, the "therapy" was more spiritual, therapy for your soul so you could flourish not just in this life, but in whatever comes after it.They didn't take this shit lightly in the old days. This stuff was considered hard science for like, thousands of years. The positions of your planets on your chart obviously define your psychology, but they do that because they represent literal events in your life that shape your identity. The positions of the planets indicate a time frame that they could use to predict exactly when and where events would occur in your life.They used various methods of "timing" for this, but the most popular by far was Zodiacal Release, as well as what are called Annual Profections. Later on, toward the medieval period, "secondary progression" and "returns" were added to deepen the methodology. But the core methods were Zodiacal Release and Annual Profections. Using those methods you could predict events down to the exact day or even hour.
I also just want to say, I know you guys have jobs (I hope) or possibly classes and things you have to take care of, but if you stopped playing video games and chatting in discord and shitposting on 4chan for like, ONE WEEK, and instead you spent all your free time studying hellenistic astrology, you would know as much as me and be able to read your own chart probably even better than I could.But it's up to you. Or, you can just be a lazy nigger and bitch and whine, like a bitch, begging. Your choice.
>>42259885Sorry ignore me, I was being dumb
>>42257887remove the rings and cushions like moving a sofa or chester drawers
>>42260125OMG TWINSSNo but, I have the feeling you'll hate my flicke ass for having a Gemini moon in the 7th plus you have mars in aries opposite my sensitive sun in libra UwU~I'm all talk and no substanceTaurus suns always hate me for being indecisive and flaky
>>42262120It could be fun in the right circumstances, and my groundedness actually works as a rock for other people. The big thing is other spergs are always love or hate with no in-between.
>>42257872I do know one leo rising person with saturn leo, but in the 12th house. He always sympathy baits and whines about how hard his life is.>i'm ugly and depressed, please care about me
>>42257872Lack of fear isn't bravery.Bravery is to act despite your fear.There is no one more capable of bravery than a coward. Only a man wrecked by ultimate fear, who feels it the most, who feels every ounce of it, can truly call himself the bravest one once he overcomes it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmsRYfqGi_Q
I don't know much about astrology, can an informed anon tell me about my chart? >August 26, 1992
>>42264768You're a party pooper and everyone hates you. You're responsible for ending summer.
>>42257872No stars all cartoons Zionist star it's fake
Today was a change of an era, truly transcendental.
>>42264774Accurate, so far
