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what is your belief about reality? explain in detail. no schizo, materialist, secular or otherwise trash worthy shit.
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>>42263739
People races and species cannot escape the fate the the
Creator às choice for them, whe are marionets and our free will is a illusion, every soûl end in the same place and none as the posibility to escape the destiny inposed by the creator an gain indepence, reality is determinist
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>>42263739
Agnostic Pandeist here, with a strong disposition to Taoist thought
I believe that god/the universe as a whole are the same thing, and that 'God/Deus' as a creator/being was pre-universe. The universe as it is now is God/The whole split up into infinite parts. Before the big bang everything was one, everything was all part of the same being. We are the universe experiencing itself in a different form. The term 'god is dead' is partially right, more like 'god is dormant/sleeping', and we are what makes up the dreams of the universe. It explains why god does not directly interact with people, but strange things beyond our understanding still seem to happen. Eventually it is of my belief that everything will collapse back together and everything will become one again, this is what heaven is, heaven is experiencing the lives/existence of everyone and everything at once. This also gives you a reason to be a kind and good person because if you make your slice of existence as enjoyable and righteous as you can, it makes the experience of heaven better for everything/everybody else.
There is a possibility that the Universe/God does this again and again, expanding and contracting, like breathing or waking/sleeping, but there is no way to tell for sure. Still very agnostic since there is no way to truly know what the fuck is going on.
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>>42263823
drop agnosticism. if you seem as you seem to want to drop it. then, this is a process you cant drop some bad faith just by reading one book or a couple of illuminating verses. read inspired scripture youre starting right place because i was agnostic in the past its smarter than atheism spiritually. what else do you believe about world religions?
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I'd consider myself closest aligned with 'Buddhism'. Ultimate reality is an emptiness of infinite potential, like a metaphorical "still mind of God". Everything in existence arises from the emptiness because it holds potential and thus becomes bound to rise due to the āsavas (impurities) sensual desire, attachment to existence, wrong views, and ignorance. This is will and desire that starts to move, what is usually called Source or God because it's the original being, disturbing the stillness of "God mind" (emptiness). Stirring up the mud and silt clouding the clear-sightedness of enlightenment, the awakened mind.

This evolves conscious intelligent beings/spirits who in turn create beings and become "created in the image of god". Just like humans can create living thoughtforms and nowadays AI, which is just a machine version of it. Or taming animals for work or pets, much in the same way old myths tell tale of "gods" genetically engineering humans.
Conscious beings having the desire to create conscious beings and so on.
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>>42263739
Right now i think this: we are in a "simulation", meaning we are observed from a place we cannot observe. The purpose is either:
1. God is uneasy with himself and his loneliness and is entertaining / forgetting himself
OR
2. This is a sandbox for selection of attributes (genes, beliefs) for worthy warriors for a war in a place we cannot see.
I don't see other possibilities. It's either fun or no fun.
Whatever you do, do not despair and do your best to keep yourself as an agent of good and care for those around you.
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>>42263739
Everybody copes and seethes about the nature of reality but the astrology chart cycle ends on pisces motherfucker. Everybody eventually comes to the pisces vibration in the end to find out where they go next.
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>>42263889
>>42263889
I believe that all holy scripture/holy book based religions are giant frauds. Not saying that in a mean way, just how I see things.
Not to say that you can't gain great spiritual growth or wisdom from them, far from it.
I just believe that needing a book written and tainted by mortal hands that claims it's the 'word of god' to guide your life and actions instead of listening or searching within to figure out the inherent will of the universe/god that lives within all of us is dumb. dogmatic scripture based religion like all abrahamic faith usually leads to unnecessary death, conflict, and violence, even despite all the good it can do.
I believe that all prophets in history are/were just charismatic and kind schizos that developed cult followings and got fan-fiction written about them to hype them up. We are all children of god/the universe equally, and the concept that a specific person is 'more in tune with god/the universe' than anyone else is absurd (though the universe is inherently absurd so there's probably a better word out there I could use.).
anything else you'd like to ask about?
Just because I'm agnostic does not mean I have faith in my beliefs. Like everyone, I like to believe I am right and live in accordance with my religious and spiritual beliefs, but I acknowledge that it isn't our place as humans to know the true nature of the universe (at least not yet), Just as the Tao is unknowable.
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>>42264269
i think your view on theravada buddhism please.
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>>42263739
We can switch realities, timelines, and travel back in time but we need a certain method (probably death). Been looking for more accounts of it online but it’s a bit rare since people tend to move on with reincarnation instead
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>>42264289
>i think your view on theravada buddhism please.
I'm assuming you meant *want to hear. Not super familiar with it but after a short reading:
Although the universe could possibly be a cycle, I don't think escaping it is a goal/necessary. Also if it is cycle, I don't think reincarnation works the same way that Bhuddists believe where your soul gets transferred. Moreso all the matter and soul that made up you gets pieced out across the universe/god. We are all one in the end, and that includes souls after enough time. You become part of the Tao/flow of the universe/god, and aren't bound to living things.
Also it hinges off of Bhudda as a prophet or 'enlightened', but it seems a lot more cool and based than other sects of Bhuddisim.
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>>42264367
good answer you show more depth of understanding than i thought initially so nice. so you like theravada the most? i personally strongly tend to if not outright believe the repeated universe theory of buddha and so on. but i cant really say i know its true, in your terminology so to speak. do you think god is nameless, formless, and divinely if he exists or not out of the question but if' he existed?
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>>42264367
>we are all le one
way to shove your reddit gayness into buddhism
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>>42264384
I just had a stroke reading that question. But I think I might be able to answer it? My form of belief in Pandeisim is Similar to Pantheisim in belief that god=the universe. The difference being that the actual "divine creator" part of the universe came before how the universe currently is. Hence the whole god being broken up into multiple pieces/asleep metaphor.
Like I said, very agnostic, but I'd assume with my current framework that god/the universe would not have a form or a name, as the concept of names and taking on forms is a very human things. If god wasn't split up into all the atoms of the universe then maybe 'he' could take on a form, but honestly it doesn't seem like it would be of any use since God is less of an ultimate decider and probably does not have a human sense of 'good and evil'. One way to look at human existence that I like is that we are here to show god/the universe what is good and what is bad since those concepts did not exist, and make the universe better/the whole of god better in the little ways that we can. Like the watchmaker metaphor, god isn't controlling the universe, god is the universe that set itself in motion and then went dormant until it reforms later.
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>>42264415
even then I'm somehow less of a faggot than (you), waggling a finger and not contributing anything to the thread.
Truly niggalicious behavior.
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>>42263739
>>42263739
First and foremost I would consider myself an agnostic theist, an agnostic in the sense that I don't absolute in my situation and I am still learning. And a theist in the sense that I believe in the oneness of god.

I will also be rating each position of a rating of 1-5, 1 being weak/unsure, 5 being strong/'absolute' positions,
Additionally the justification which I present are not the entire foundation of my belfies.

5
Personally (like stated before) I believe in god, this god being one god, a divine singularity. my justification for this are mostly cosmological arguments and that I just believe it god, just like how everyone is naturally ordinated towards a belief in god.

3 (relating to the divine essence, not to the Substance Dualism)
People can experience by experiencing their as divine sparks (Don't get this mixed up with the idea that we are all god, I am disgusted by this egocentric ideology, only that we hold a divine essence.), and the way they can do that is through acts like, love, prayer, mediation, selfless serves, creation, etc. My justification for this is mostly emotional, as i look around me I can help but see a divine essence within all people, and I also believe its an animating force in a sense of a soul -I'm a Substance Dualist- (not to be confused with qi/vital energy, thats a different thing).

3
The attributes of this god are more orientated towards such transcendental goods such as goodness, beauty, truth, etc and it holds similar properties of classical theism. My justification for this are teleological arguments, as seen in books like mind and cosmos (for a teleological universe), the experience of god, etc.
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>>42264687

""4"" - mostly 5
The afterlife (just like the astral) exists; in a process which mostly reassembles reincarnation. You can be reincarnated at different times (through speaking literately time doesn't exist/is non-liner), and in different realms, all of this is dependent on your spiritual development, so if you are completely materialistic and or live completely in your base instincts, there is practically no hope for inertial spiritual development. Although there are ways which you can directly transfuse you being into a future body which you chose through ritualistic practices (not to be mistaken for Bardo (although i am practicing it)). my justification for this, is "A lot" so i will just link up all the sources here >>42260360, >>42260366, >>42260372. And that I that I have experienced the astral p (i can send a tut if you want) and overall I just believe its the most logical prospect.

4-5
Sprits and ''''demons'''' exist. I will not give much justification for this other than its personal

5 (though i personally would not count this as a metaphysical claim, other would so i will add it here)
vital force, such as qi/chi/ki/prana/etc is real and you can directly cultivate it though practices. It can be used for stuff like rekai, tummo, revelations, health, etc. My justification for this is personal experience, https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000200270001-6.pdf, , here is a beginner beginner source if you want to try it out and cultivate it for yourself https://archive.org/details/QigongMeditation.EmbryonicBreathingByYangJwingMing/page/n35/mode/1up and more.
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>>42264692
>>42264687
These are some metaphysical claims which i hold, there are way more which I haven't discussed here, although they aren't as significant as the ones i posted here, and i don't want to spazz out and write 15 posts (unless you want me too). Also there are other stuff like conspiracies like new age agender, health space, political agenders, etc. which i haven't mentioned as this threads is mostly about metaphysical belfies.

sorry for my grammar
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>>42263739
7 types of humanoid aliens came and colonized earth. they brought 76 million different species with them to do it. There was a massive flood that took out all their infrastructure and they were all reset to the stone age. Thoth tried to encode their civilizational knowledge as the first religion. In the years since then, everyone regressed in soul awareness, until today.
I only know some things about this because I maintained lucidity in my dreams and am able to perceive a vast expanse of what my soul has experienced.
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chaos and order are two sides of the same coin. fractal reality, it's infinite and the big guys that tinker with the smaller ones are themselves infinitely small. nobody knows anything, some struggle in vain to figure it out, the evil ones (materialists) seek to control everything at the expense of others.
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>>42263739
So you only want falsehoods. Gotcha.
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>>42263739
>what is your belief about reality? explain in detail. no schizo, materialist, secular or otherwise trash worthy shit.
I believe that there is the ultimate substance of existence, the one, what is, that exists on infinitely convoluting scales. Like a fractal each layer of size reflects the same information about reality. As above, so below. As below, so above. Thus the heavens and earth are locked in chain of contingency up until the unmoved mover, which is the divine. By studying the different layers of reality and understanding our place relative to the other scales, we can manipulate the forces on our level to create larger changes above, which can then cascade once again into powerful effects below. There is the greatest level, which is everything. Below that are the two distinctions, light and dark. these are the fundamental spirits. They splatter out into different shapes and forms, but are still of the same inviolable substance. These become the celestial creatures. The celestial realm moves the astral realm, which governs the astrology of the greater universe from the edge of the universe to our galaxy to solar system to earth to continent to biome to self to animals to plants to objects to matter to being to information which then feeds back to the distinctor of everything.
Meditating each layer and connecting them increases the worth of a soul, as elemental affinities of light and dark blend with entropy. Spiritual maturity is the balancing and understanding of these pieces, and to combine them back into the whole. This means there are two paths towards breaking the barrier. Downwards (black magic, liberation, dissolution) or Upwards (white magic, harmonization, catholicism) which birth the hands of the path.
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>>42263739
>no schizo, materialist, secular or otherwise trash worthy shit.
So nothing that contradicts your own views? Got it.
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>>42269144
true, but this is /x/ so this is expected, anon would just post this thread on /his/ if he wanted secular views
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>>42263739
>tell me what you believe so i can shit on it and tell you how my belief is so much better
You're a loser on /x/. Get back in line, cocksucker.
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>>42264360
Anyone else?
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>>42263739
Reality is real, not fake like a simulation as so many here seem to think. But, its reality has varying levels of solidity. The finer cuts that you make into it in terms of physical size and time, the less solid it becomes.
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>>42263739
its fake and gay
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