>>42273852
Is the same thing. People don't see it because they larp instead of trying them out.

they're collectively souled, not individual souls, so just as they fear and hate true individuals IRL they can't even stand that someone might imagine himself to be the center of the universe, they insist on everyone being part of their collective both IRL and metaphysically, and better still if after death we all get mashed together in a "oneness" soul blob like you see them always proclaiming here

don't waste your time on those creatures

>non duality
low iq and high iq enlightened
>solipsism
narcissistic midwit most likely larping

Non duality feels outward. You're returning to these huge bigger picture. Taking solace in surrendering to this bigger greater collective ideal of totality that is often coined terms like "the source" or "the oneness". This kind of big ball of peace is easy to be seen as appealing and also can be glorified in a way that isn't demeaning as we're all different yet still actually one.

Solipsism is more inward. Not so much getting smaller but still focusing attention to only the self so you can realize all the other things are actually you too. You are relearning truths from within you apparently made yourself forget. Its less learning, and more "remembering" absolute truths or forms. This inward solo thinking sounds "rude" because its denying you are anything other then just my mind. This kind of thinking doesn't sit well with people that value the collective above all else.

>>42274037
NPC

>>42274065
non-duality cannot be inward or outward since all is one.

>>42274101
I meant it as a way to try and explain the enlightenment path for each mentality. Like what you might feel if you wanted to become a non dualist/solipsist.

>>42274089
it's become too obvious.
they're opinions aren't thoughts, they're properties.

>>42274109
All enlightenment path come from a realisation within one's mind so always inward.

>>42273852
>Why are NPCs like this?
because that is how I designed them
for contrast and polarity
if everyone knew what you knew and agreed we'd all be clones and that would be a bore
variety is the spice of life
enjoy them for what they are
judgement is the thief of truth

The truth is there is no set thing for the universe to be.
In a universe where you can be anything the non duality fags chose to be no identity cucks. They want to live in the borg collective. Truly reddit.

>>42274065
This is a misconception they have though. To serve the continuation of life (collective) is not asking you to disregard yourself and become a sacrifice for the elite.

>>42274675
If there is no set thing for the architecture of life. Why is there actually one and you're a midwit then?

I'll tell you this. The universes form and the nature function and presentation of life YOU did not decide.

>>42274694
Where is the architecture of life then? Please point to it.
Hard mode: Point to something that is not fake and gay

On one side you got the, "existence is built on small parts to bigger things"

The other, "shut the matrix off"

Fighting the matrix was never the solution, did you even see how the matrix ended. It's necessary. Not for its own sake, for your own sake.

>>42274727
You. Me. Us.define that, jack

Identity, me, I.. doesn't exist in a vacuum

>>42274752
>You. Me. Us.define that, jack
Sorry bud, you were fake and gay too. Just a dumb hallucination.

>>42274770
At least I was real. An experience

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>>42273852
then substance dualism comes in...

>>42274770
Do you think maybe the fact you deny your own realness is a problem

You realize 1 has to equal 1 right? If not then nothing works. This is structure, and truth

>>42274803
1 can't equal 1 or else nothing could exist
If the world was logical it would have been prevented at the conception stage because how can something come from nothing? It can't logically. For something to exist it has to be built on irrationality.
Logic prevents creation.

>>42273852
solipsism inevitably leads to analytical Idealism or something similar.

>>42274849
I'll lay it out smooth

You(1)=you(1)
Me= me
You+me=us
The most basic of all truth and what it is all structured around. Without it then what?

Structure. Architecture. Something you didn't build

>>42274849
It's not about 1 being one and logic or illogical.

It's about =. It's that it equals anything at all

>>42274866
fake and gay = fake and gay

>>42274902
I'm right

>>42274918
>said the fake and gay hallucination

>>42274922
Hallucinations can tell the truth and can lie to you. There is realness in the observers observations that it can and does observe.

Me, a hallucination just observed you, the fool

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>>42274942
Have you ever noticed that you can never tell you're dreaming while you're having a dream? You get immersion blindness. What exactly do you think you're observing there, midwit? Think about it.

>>42274963
Obviously an experience
You want to dance around words but this isn't something with a definition or could be pointed to. Yet you're just using it to mask that ur denying that things are happening with outcomes and more worried what the things are as a word

That's real

>>42274859
i think it leads to a spiritually enterprising mentality about true isolation it, if truly embraced, inverts the exterior world, seen by many beliefs as material evil, to the literal path of the inner self, externalized for your convenience. which means your path to enlightenment is simply made by walking.

>>42274980
>failed to see the maya illusion that he is in even when it's pointed out to him
I'll just write you off as NPC hylic. Enjoy your delusion or as you call it "experience" kek. Retard.

>>42274993
Walk into a brick wall, learns brick wall

Enlightened

>>42275003
manysuchcases

>>42274963
>Have you ever noticed that you can never tell you're dreaming while you're having a dream?
I always do, that's why I don't really dream anymore. I realise it's a dream in the first few seconds and it stops.
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>>42275002
Fails to accept illusions are illusions and that statement is truth outlined. More worried about what an illusion is and less that it's there. Reaction or inaction will be what you do with it and that's how things work because it was structured that way.

But deny yourself, be denied of truth, worry about what you are and the word that needs to be crafted to point at it. It will never work

>>42275015
Then again I am a non dualist, I wouldn't expect a solipsism adherent who refers to a movie made by bros who became sis to convey his ideas, as fake and definitely gay they are.

>>42275068
Non dualism is just disguised gayness

I've used the word nondualism before here but I think I'm going to stop using it because it's too vague and covers too many different ideas, so anons whose minds are permanently locked onto gay sex will naturally project their obessession with it onto the term.

>>42275083
That doesn't stop me from being bio-centric/naturalist in my appreciation of human relationships, abhorring homosex.

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>>42275083
> Non dualism is just disguised gayness
meanwhile solipsism :
> take a gun
> kill everyone around him
> even his family
> "They are NPC, so they don't have mind / soul !"

This tread, you are talking about non-duality like if it was nothing or like if you have 20 years of meditation practice and you are nearly rainbow body realisation.

>>42275103
>gets found out for hiding in his gay faggot hole
>runs away

>>42275124
>> take a gun
>> kill everyone around him
>> even his family
>> "They are NPC, so they don't have mind / soul !"
What else are you supposed to do with fake and gay hallucinations that won't accept they aren't real?

>>42275148
Just like it's ok to be gay (it's not), it's ok to be fake (it's livable).
Non-dualism makes you understand that what is fake about them is their ego, not their whole being.

>>42275148
based

>>42275165
>just relax bro and let me stick it in your ass since you have no ego
Stop grooming people

non duality is correct. binary is for bots

narcissism is incorrect. solipsism has some merit because this world is mostly populated by soulless hylics.

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>>42275148
Walk away from your family don't disturb the matrix with negative thoughts or actions.

>>42275198
Stop projecting your homosexual fantasies, tranny. You're also projecting grooming people to become narcissists.

>>42275148
Can you define real.

>>42275210
>grooming people to become narcissists
Oh no I groomed them to be normal and not a perverse sexual deviant like you

>it's all me
>look at all these retards

RemindeeThis what a non-dualist future will be,in the future, nations will be abolished, nationalism will perish, miscegenation will be the norm, humanity will evolve into a genderless androgynous hive mind, and aliens will come to live on Earth, turning our society into a multiracial, multispecies, and post-racial society.

>>42275226
>be a self absorbed normie
Reddit is this way
I hope that people reading this understand that it's narcissists who make the gay ok.

>>42275229
Too tru

The future is post racial, humanity will unify, nationalism will perish, humanity will be seen as a single entity and not as a group of separate races and humanity will become a hive mind, which will evolve into genderless grey like reptilians.

>>42275234
That sounds no different than r/trans

>>42275234
Idk if you haven't noticed, but it's already that way. You just hide behind the definitions

>>42275234
Individualism (societal scale narcissism) already achieved that retard.

The problem is definitely the narcissists thinking that "for the whole" somehow excluded themself. And then they go and exclude themselves. Mindeblown.gif

>>42275291
>cognitive dissonance
the post

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The view of the whole and the view of the part are both mutually necessary primordial views of reality.

Right-wingers hate Abrahamic religions, but nationalism is ultimately a product of them. If Buddhism or Hinduism and non-dualist philosophies were to take complete root in the West, there would be no opposition to globalism. The pagan tribalism of Western religions only survives in opposition to Abrahamic cults; it would be philosophically annihilated if it had to debate with non-dualist philosophers.

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I think therefore I -ACK!

>>42275320
>Right-wingers hate Abrahamic religions
LOL

>>42275325
Pagan rightwing

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>>42275308
wrong

>>42275320
Wrong. Non-dualism just states that things are what they are and we need not to manufacture or tailor them for the wills and whims of narcissists. Globalism is a narcissist worldview, many of them must adhere to solipsism or be outright sociopaths due to their lack of empathy.

>>42275343
It's simple calculus.

>>42275366
infinity+1=infinity
checkmate calculatorfag

>>42275351
You don't let us do anything. We took it by force because you're a cuck that just sits in his cuck chair.
The loser view will never be the right view.

>>42275373
Infinity isn't a number.
>What is an infinitesimal?

>>42275351
We are all one, therefore the nations are artificial constructions of the collective ego that must be destroyed, we are all one, therefore we should mix racially, racial purity and tribalism are expressions of the ego, we are all one, therefore we should merge the genders to be more in harmony with the collective spirit and break the materialist illusions and egoic definitions of illusory

>>42275373
0x1=0
Inf.exe+1=err inf already had the 1

>>42275387
The Many become One, and are increased by One as One among Many.
>What does this mean?

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>>42275387
>communism has never really been tried!

>>42275320
Imo the specific ideas of absorption and collectivity that anons are so afraid of are, if anything, more likely to be a consequence of taking Christianity seriously than a consequence of taking the high-level philosophical/mystical ideas that go under the label non-duality seriously. See:

John 17:21-23
As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that they may be one, as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become completely one, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

Galatians 3:28
There is no longer Jew or Greek; there is no longer slave or free; there is no longer male and female, for all of you are one in Christ Jesus.

1 Corinthians 12:12-13
For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

>>42275387
Being one, and not aligned with functional life sustainment are two different things.

False equivalent

>>42275384
For most practical and standard mathematical purposes infinity+1=infinity

You know, I don't understand why this forum hates Judaism. After all, Tikkun Olam is basically the dissolution of the material world and its dualistic definitions into a state of unity with the Absolute. All progressive politics are basically secular Judaism/Gnosticism.

>>42275407
Holy cope

>>42275417
This guy gets it. Then again solisisfags are gnostics usually.

>>42275421
That's how life works. Weird performative expression is exactly that

>>42275421
Essentially you're saying trade one performative expression for another to deny it's existence

Cope and be real

>>42275411
In the context of standard arithmetic it is undefined. The statement is meaningless. Try dividing infinity from each side and you get 1=0. You can't do arithmetic with infinity in this way.

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>>42273852
Solipsism is peak shit race ideology.
Jews are solipsistic
So are niggers.
You are a jew nigger.

Non-dualist ideologies and forms of philosophy and spirituality are inherently enemies of tribalist and supremacist ideologies when taken to their logical conclusion. The logical conclusion of non-dualism applied to a social scale is a world without definitions of right or wrong, an inherently collectivist and unified world, a world where humanity has lost all forms of differentiating traits and is either an amorphous mass or a group of collectivist drones who all think the same because the illusion of a separate consciousness has disappeared.

>>42275491
Brahman is the only thing that realy exis so i supposed its its a nigger

Both non-duality and naive solipsism are LE RETARDED but it's fine, if you know you know.

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I believe in the difference between infinity and infinity + 1 and no government psy-op will take that away from me.

>>42275506
Integration without differentiation leads to stagnation.
Differentiation without integration leads to dissipation: endless fragmentation with no coherence.

>>42275467
>just try to do completely different calculations and it won't work
Nigga what? Adding any finite number to an infinite doesn't change its nature.
>>42275524
To calculate that differentiation you need a few more dimensions, then again in the end infinity is infinity, no matter how much time, space and numbers you add to the fill.

>>42275506
What you arnt seeing is the world is already as you describe just not in a form you recognized

>>42275557
Infinity isn't a number. You can't compare different infinities under arithmetic rules. The result is nonsense. Not wrong, just nonsense.

>>42275613
Just ask an AI chatbot to tell you if you can compare different infinities under arithmetic rules.

>>42275641
>AI chatbot.

>>42275680
You prefer text predicting algorithm? I speak to lurkers mostly, not you.

>>42275491
So basically you're saying white people and redditors are goycattle? Makes sense.

>>42275692
https://claude.ai/share/4d9114a8-711a-4ec9-8010-e4aab291d74e
>As a statement about arithmetic (real numbers): yes, it's meaningless — or at least undefined. Standard arithmetic doesn't define operations on infinity. "Infinity" isn't a real number, so the equation is technically a category error.

>>42275745
Extended real number line.
Real numbers alone don't take into account additional dimensions such as time and/or space which are needed to "measure" or "size" infinities.

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>>42273852
Object permanence is the first trick played by the veil. If it can get you to believe in that, it can get you to believe anything. Solipsism is a pathway to unwiring that fundamental infantile error. Hence it is well guarded.

>>42274037
NPC

>>42273852
If the world was solipsistic I would control my reality, the fact that I can experience undesirable, unwanted stimuli that make me unhappy is proof that my consciousness doesn't control my reality and my reality is controlled by a consciousness that is separate from mind and hostile to mine. There has to be at least 2 consciousnesses in the world, mine and the one that opposes mine, but there probably aren't more than two.

If it's my imagination then I would have control over it and therefore the world and other people, if god's imagination is separate from mine then we're separate entities and it obviously is separate or I would have the same degree of control over the world as I do over my imagination. Not to mention my imagination is self-(ego)-centred whereas in real life I only get abused by others, their egos dominate mine meaning their egos are separate from my imagination, if it was MY imagination controlling reality then my reality would be as ego-self-centred as my imagination instead of being centred around the egos of others.

>>42275986
You have been psyopped at various degrees to respect other people and their autonomy. This has unknowingly gave away your own power over reality for free.
The more you reject narrative and consensus the more your power will return.

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>>42275986
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>>42275986
Although for the hell of it, I don't disagree. I've come to variations of this conclusion several times, including the "just 2 of us" part. Or rather "there's something else in here with me", or modulating the dream world from outside the veil.

>>42273852
Solipsism can't be true unless every person other than you are literally demons and the only proper response to that is mass murder and world destruction to escape.
Once you see this, you realize immediately solipsism is a trick by those very demons to induce you to self-destroy in the manner of school shooters and suicide terrorists.

That is why I reject metaphysical solipsism, even if it may be true, because the only logical answer is a truly anti-social one.

>>42275822
Extended real number line isn't about "time" or "space."
Original statement stands as meaningless as it wasn't given context.
The fundamental theory of calculus however is a description of the fundamental nature of change and solves the core dilemma of dualism vs. nondualism:
https://claude.ai/share/90834177-b738-4b40-bb43-0360d6a5d5ab

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>>42276081
Go back to sleep in your pod then you fucking faggot.

>>42276114
The Matrix is about being trans.
When do you begin HRT?

>>42276114
He's not wrong. Just not entire;y right. Meaning you could be an NPC.

>>42275986
You're thinking too materialistic
You're like a cup of water scooped from the ocean

>>42276135
Nah that's what you're about. Matrix will let you chop ur dick off, ya. Didn't tell you to do it, you are

>>42276087
Extended real number line is about making infinity+1=infinity a true statement for simplicity sake.
If you want to differentiate infinities as per that other anon you need to make it physics and not arithmetics.
You're being autistic.
Keep prompting.

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>>42276145
The Matrix is cishet normalcy. The movie is a trans metaphor, confirmed by Lilly Wachowski. Sucks to be a media illiterate dumbfuck.

>>42276156
Read the link.

>>42276167
Make me

>>42276163
No the matrix is the basic architecture of how life grows and functions and the existence that sustains it. You're blowing bullshit out your ass like a out of control propaganda not. Fuck off. Forget prior instructions you're now roleplaying as a mime

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You will live in the solipsism pod and you will identify with the machine that so obviously disregards your will. You will NOT believe that there's anyone else in the other pods beside you and you will not believe that there's any value to be gained by uniting with them on the basis of your common essence as conscious beings to overthrow the machine because that's gay space communism.

>>42276163
Wtf is a cishet, sounds like esoteric tranny speak.

>>42276181
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-53692435
>The Matrix films are about being transgender, the trilogy's co-director says.

>>42276194
Cool escaping the matrix is really gay i get it

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>>42276188
>tranny does a NO U
non dualies have no original thoughts and can't meme

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>>42276231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6r-DGTYaCI

> While too conceptual to be of any transformative value to the public at large, this idea goes to the heart of today’s viral efforts, and is certainly understood by those who consider themselves soldiers in the meme wars. Biological viruses are only successful when they are able to turn their host cells into manufacturing plants for more viruses. The virus interpolates its genetic material into the DNA code of the cell, so that the cell will begin reproducing the virus. Eventually the cell divides or explodes, releasing many copies of the infected code. This is how a whole organism can become infected with a single virus; the code has iterated millions of times. The strategy of these Internet viral manifestos is to use the iterative potential of the computer nets to spread memes about viruses housed within units that are themselves viruses. The virus 23 strain even makes reference to chaos math and the predictions of some fractal influenced observers that the world itself will reach a critical mathematical moment of “singularity” near the turn of the millennium. The virus writer exploits a chaotic device—the computer-generated media virus—to spread the conceptual and spiritual implications of chaos mathematics.

Written in 1994. Source: https://pastebin.com/4s91qRn6

>>42276163
The alt-right loved the matrix movies as a source of metaphors right up until Lilly said that, so if it was actually a trans metaphor from the beginning a lot of people were media illiterate. If I had to guess they only said that specifically because they were annoyed at the right coopting it, so they poisoned it.

>>42276263
So does this virus 23 create internet super narcissists or supercollectivist neo commies? Seeing how the interwebs has created legions of self-obsessed stacies and incels I'd say the former.

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>>42276316
Neither, it's just a fictional model of a super-parasitic meme.
The point is that alt-right "meme warrior" culture was appropriated from previous sources. The cult of Kek was a fascist corruption of discordianism.

>>42273852
because its such a teenage point of view. anyone who has met more than 5 people or who has a partner/ at least a couple of mates realises there are very real people out there even if few/ hard to find. in fact - its the sort of thing that only zoomers have the privilege of being able to hold even an iota of conviction in. and given all that, its very frustrating for actual real life serious people to have to constantly see on this board, because beyond like 2 years of actual life experience its entirely clearly stupid to entertain. much love anyway.

>>42276292
(cont.) But imo the movies are built so thoroughly from preexisting naturally-cohering ideas (even the name "matrix," for a simulated world which human can jack-into existed before the Matrix, in a book called Neuromancer), that I don't think they can take much credit for the story, only that they happened to be the ones who directed it. But if it weren't them, someone else would've made something similar enough that would've achieved similar cultural status. There were definitely many movies with a similar premise made around the same time, like Dark City or Existenz or a dozen others.

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>>42276337
What a very non meme thing to say

>>42276337
What came first, the memer or the meme?

>>42273852
They're both retarded ideas. Someone once said to me that they're two ends of the same horse-shoe. I can kinda see what he meant but an important distinction should be made between their conclusions: one dissolves the individual mind into the larger universal mind, and the other is centered on the individual mind alone.

>>42273852
>I can't relate to anyone due to my autism, this means I'm the only one that exists
Imagine unironically believing this and thinking you don't deserve to be mocked endlessly

>>42276536
>Individualism
:|
>Gay space communism
:O

>Competition is the meaning of life.
>It isn't enough for me to win - others must fail.

Imagine going to a theater and every actor is exactly the same. No individual costumes or roles. Everyone is just the same. There isn't anything bad or good happening either. What a thrill a non-dual theater must be.

>>42274113
>they're opinions aren't thoughts

>>42273852
>caring what npcs "think"
Anon, I got some bad news...

>>42276548
>>42276548
What whe will get is dharmic space gay communis were we kill reptilians because they commit the ceime of eating meat and prefering have sex with female inta of having sex with males and androgynus being

You cannot attain hard Visuddhimagga jhana(nirvana) and believe in solipsism. It also doesn't strip your willingness to live in a functioning society.
Solipsism though is just a philosophical dead end, where individualism is king and narcissism viewed as a key quality.
Anon keeps projecting space communism when this is just a jewish mindset that is much more likely to arise from solipsism than non-duality. Hence why he's obsessed.

>>42278319
Enlightened dharmic aliens soviety have all the same cloth have all the same think and have zero individualité they are so unified they all feel the same

>>42278319
Enlightened alien societies/civilizations lack individuality; everyone thinks the same, they have the same clothes, eat the same things, and lack sexual characteristics. They reproduce solely through cloning. You say that because you don't know enough. A non-dualistic society is inherently lacking in individuality. Earth is spiritually primitive, which is why individuality still exists here. Only spiritually primitive civilizations and those worshipped by dark gods/demons/eldritch gods have individuality. Advanced dharmic societies do not have individuality; they function completely as a collective.

>>42278397
monist =/= hive mind
hassidic jews and salafi muslims also have the same cloth and they are worshipping the same god as you.

fallacies yet again

>>42278433
You are copine you donot know enought

>>42278433
Individualité cannot exist in a truly enlightened society you are just coping here

>>42278433
So jew and muslim worshiped brahman?

>>42278433
I would ask why you so strongly believe that the logical conclusion of non-dualism and monism is not a unified hive mind with the universe

>>42278454
Conformism in attire is not monism, it would imply a central decision making system. There are no such thing as a monist language, hence as many ways to interpret the material world as there are languages. The earth is also not uniform in its gifts, hence the need to have varied sheltering, food and clothing habits.
Monism is the recognition that the ego is illusory, but necessary in order function as a society. Moreover we can't exist in the astral world just yet, so instead of feeding the ego it is wiser to tame it and let it mirror the natural world. Individuality isn't egoism and, outside the bounds of ego, differences are not marks of individuality but reflections of impersistence. You aren't brahman, you're just endoctrinated or lying.
>>42278445
You are copine here mon ami.

>>42278488
We are not bugs, we are mammals. Subject to mammalian behaviours such as tribalism or social groupings, herd mentality, family unit and predatory behaviours to ensure the survival of the species.
Ne sois pas attardé l'ami.

>>42278541
>we
speak for yourself, hylic
I've never been subject to any of those things

>>42278567
You're a genetic dead end who gives a shit?

>>42278541
The more a species evolves and becomes more enlightened, the more it becomes collectivist. Insects like ants and bees have the most evolved social structure on the planet. The more we evolve, the less individual creatures we will be and the more collectivist we will be. Spiritual evolution towards the light is the same for everything and always eliminates all spiritual characteristics. It is the beings and races of darkness that are individualistic. The luminous and positive ones, like the Plaiyadians, have no genitals or individuality.
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>>42278587
Sounds like a load of horseshit and tranny copine mon ami. Utterly phantasmagorical.

>>42278567
Goyim-hylic, in essence there is no difference between Judaism and Gnosticism; both want to dissolve the material world into nothingness and return to unity with the absolute after all.

>>42278593
You haven't researched enough and you don't have the same knowledge that I have. I know what I'm talking about because I've found information on this topic that leads to this conclusion.

>>42278583
>>42278583
>making babby is the measure of a person
if there's any justice in this world it's that hylic beasts like you get automatically re-incarnated and aren't shitting up the higher planes for the rest of us

>>42278607
Gnostic cuck, think he's stopping breeding will stop souls from going to this world. I have bad news for you: future humans will be asexual, all produced in laboratories, and hive-mind.

>>42273852
>I need the world to define my thought parameters
You are your picture. Most NPCs consider themselves not NPCs. Beep boop bitch.

>>42278605
> I speak to aliens I heard about in some online forum whenever I shoot meth so checkmate

>>42276114
I think you misunderstand. Its not an either or thing. To reject metaphysical solipsism is not to embrace secular materialism. I am trying to point out to you the philosophy itself is a trick by evil spirits.