Goodness exists, but it is a foreign signal.We must embrace and amplify it.Only then can freedom and love be ushered into this poor planet, and billions of years of agony can finally be redeemed.
>>42279867Goodness exists on this planet. Nature goes about its business with everything fufilling its ends to the whole. Animals can only feel sensation, they have no ego to which can feel suffering, loss, betrayal or existential dread. Man suffers from his own evil, his fractured relationship with the divine good. This is mended in Christ Jesus.
>>42280128>Animals can only feel sensationPain is a sensation.>they have no ego to which can feel suffering, lossThere are numerous documented cases of animals dying of a broken heart after the loss of partners or friends. Elephants ritualistically mourn their dead.
>>42280145They of course feel pain, as this helps animals avoid danger and unnecessary death. What I’m getting at is there is no “I” to suffer. There is no sense of injustice, deep sadness, existential dread. Animals do not know they will die. They simply cease when their time comes.
>>42280154Various species of mammals and birds have exhibited the exact types of behavior and physiological markers associated with human grief. You have no way to say their "deep sadness" isn't real without invalidating your own.
>>42280185I can reasonably say human sadness is far deeper and more spiritual than the temporary inconvenience felt by animals upon physical pain or witnessing loss of a member of their clan. Humans have a hole in our souls.
>>42280213There are animals that lose a friend, partner, or family member and are so emotionally broken that they can't function, they stop eating and die. There is nothing you can point to that says that we have a soul and that they don't, and that our suffering is real and that theirs isn't. Except for religious dogma written by some dude in a desert somewhere thousands of years ago.
>>42280239I never said they have a soul. I said they can’t experience existential dread like humans do
>>42280251>I never said they have a soul.I know, I did. Or at the very least, if we do, then they do.>I said they can’t experience existential dread like humans doYou also said they're incapable of deep sadness. I wasn't arguing that they are capable of existential dread.
>>42280275That’s kind of what I meant. Perhaps I didn’t word it correctly. Animals can feel sad in the moment but it’s not like human sadness or the meaningless and existential loss we feel. It’s far more situational.
>>42280717Animals can't philosophize what they're feeling or why, but they are capable of losing someone and then losing the will to live because of it.
>>42280128Genesis 1:30 To every animal of the earth, and to every bird of the sky, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food;” and it was so.Proverbs 12:10 A righteous man respects the life of his animal,but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.Jonah 4:10 The LORD said, “You have been concerned for the vine, for which you have not labored, neither made it grow; which came up in a night and perished in a night. 11 Shouldn’t I be concerned for Nineveh, that great city, in which are more than one hundred twenty thousand persons who can’t discern between their right hand and their left hand, and also many animals?”
