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>just go to sleep bro
This is the peak of Eastern spirituality
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I mean, I do enjoy sleep
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>>42285780
>>42285785
I enjoy sleep as well and wish to dream forever
I have the craziest dreams but feel that they are more real than life
It makes me not fear death because I am hoping that death is just a constant dream
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>>42285780
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>>42285780
There is a reason why they call sleep
"Poor man's nirvana"
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the normie love of sleep and sedatives has never made sense, sleep sucks, I'd rather be awake so I can do things
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>>42285918
Like post on /x/?
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>>42285922
kek
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=yCgJBoZ_Lq0
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>>42285780
Death cults everywhere.
>Life is suffering bro, better choose total anhilation bro.
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>>42285780
Ramana Maharshi and the whole nondualism scene—East and West—are entry‑level spirituality. It’s a lower form of practice, just a notch above praying for money.
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http://www.damienboyle.com/page23/files/BeAsYouAre.pdf
https://bhagavan-sri-ramana-maharshi.blogspot.com/2013/02/just-as-dream-and-magic.html
https://www.inner-quest.org/Devikalottara.htm
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>>42285918
>t. NPC that has never had a dream
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>>42285830
you are more spiritually aware than you realize anon, good job
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>>42286685
Nice b8 m8
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More Ramana
https://ia902909.us.archive.org/10/items/tripurarahasyaramanandasaraswathi_202004_485_z/Tripura%20Rahasya%20Ramananda%20Saraswathi.pdf
https://tomdas.com/2019/10/07/the-essence-of-the-ribhu-gita/

>Ashtavakra Gita
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.490169/
>Avadhuta Gita
https://archive.org/details/AvadhutaGitaSwamiChetanananda/
>Panchadasi
https://estudantedavedanta.net/Panchadashi_Vidyaranya_Swahananda.pdf
>Drg Drysa Viveka
https://archive.org/details/drgdrsyaviveka030903mbp/page/n2/mode/1up
>Mandukya Upanishad
https://ia600400.us.archive.org/1/items/MandukyaUpanishadKarikaWithShankaraBhashya-SwamiNikhilananda/MandukyaUpanishadKarikaWithBhashya-SwamiNikhilananda_text.pdf
>Nisargadatta Maharaj
https://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/I-Am-That-by-Sri-Nisargadatta-Maharaj.pdf
https://stillnessspeaks.com/images/uploaded/file/iamquotesofnisargadatta.pdf

Also relevant
https://www.abhayagiri.org/media/books/anan_samadhi_for_liberation.pdf
https://www.inner-quest.org/Guendun.htm
https://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/mipham/essence-of-wisdom
https://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/mipham/key-points-of-trekcho
https://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/longchen-rabjam/lama-yangtik-cloud-banks-space
https://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/nyang-ral-nyima-ozer/pointing-the-staff
https://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/dudjom-rinpoche/light-of-primordial-wisdom
https://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/patrul-rinpoche/self-liberating-meditation
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>>42285922
anything is better than being knocked out and in a spiritually+physically vulnerable state that steals a whole 1/3rd of your life.... even shitposting on /x/tian
>>42286973
unless you count raging nightmares every night since I was born, faggot
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>>42285830
My NDE was very peaceful.
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>>42287030
Thanks, anon! Any tips on how to become more spiritually aware? Is it just more meditation/sleep? Or do I need to focus on something else?
>>42287420
Story? What happened?
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>>42287775
Hypoxic from blood clots. Chest was riddled, it was bad, Dr was surprised I made it.

No light, but I was floating above my body looking down. In this state I told myself you have to get up. I came to and I crawled inside my house and was able to call 911. But in that moment everything was calm. No worries, just calm. That event fundamentally changed how I viewed spirituality, and I'm still learning every day. We are more than our bodies.
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>>42288040
Sorry that happened, anon, but it does sound like you learned about something special and began your journey.
I've had a couple of NDEs but one that made me wonder if I actually did die but in a different timeline where I was still alive. I fell asleep behind the wheel in the early morning. When I was awake, it was dawn (I didn't pay attention to the time). Then I fell asleep and then heard a voice same "wake up". When I woke up, the sun was completely out. I was in my car lane and was driving the exact speed limit. I was scared about what happened during the time I was asleep and prayed that no one was hurt or worse. Then I thought "I shouldn't be alive for that amount of passage of time". Being alive didn't actually make sense to me. I thought that I actually did die in a different dimension but my spirit was put into a dimension that I was alive.
That happened around 2020 but just now thought about it when you mentioned NDE.
Do you feel like that sometimes.
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>>42288130
I have thought about it, but I don't think that's my reality. Welcome to this timeline tho, brother.
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They could melt every tin pot and blast it into the higher atmosphere and make their own starlink service. Still would work than benzo's
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>>42287410
>unless you count raging nightmares every night since I was born, faggot

Nigga, your brain is making up the dream. Stop scaring yourself pussy.
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>>42288402
no it's not
you know that nightmares are coming from something outside yourself when they're about horrors more extreme than The Fly but you have aphantasia and never watch scary shows or anything

it's spiritual harassment, only player characters like me are targeted like this while loosh-deficit NPC husks like you get left alone
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>>42285841
>>42285780
I do appreciate his words, they bring a sense of calm when I read them. But I still have not gotten over the understanding of whether there is free will, whether that is an illusion, or just like the planets revolve as they will, so all our fate(fatalism)
There are instances he says that people don't do the needful and worry. But then he also says that leave it all to the higher power, what power do you have over that. I have read upon neem karoli baba, is the and vibe. Some stories he knows everything and in others there is a hint to free will and then in the next free will is an illusion
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>>42288620
>Whatever is destined to happen will happen regardless of what you do to stop it whatever is not destined to happen will not happen no matter how hard you try to make it happen
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>>42288639
I do wonder having a Guru with whom you can interact with helps one remember them as a living authority.
I imagine your entire family wouldn't give into misery knowing your Guru has told you things happen as they must, and you are at peace to do things.

But what I mean is the idea or inkling being the internal peace, yes fatalism I true but I don't know what career choice to make, or what exactly to do to turn my life around. I understand my moods aren't even my own and are largely affected by outside factors unless I strain them from the inside.
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>>42285780
to be fair, i am here reading your post at 2am instead of sleeping.
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>>42288505
>more extreme than The Fly
>never watch scary shows or anything
Then how do you know your nightmares are more extreme than The Fly?
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>>42287410
Sounds like a you problem
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>>42288656
No such things as outside factors. Only your perspection of them. It's you, it has always been you. While you can "deconstruct" free will to the point where it's just a reaction to a perceived stimuli, if you understand how to "manipulate" you oerception of the stimuli you can "orient" yourself towards decisions that better fit your expectation of this world. Ultimately I believe that you always get to choose either yes or no when it comes to take a decision. Even NPCs and other spiritually stunted entities.
That's why mind control don't work. You can only brainwash people to steer then in a direction, but in the end they are the ones pulling the trigger.
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>>42288130
People thinks NDE have to happen when you receive mortal wounds or if your heart stops for a given amount of time. I think most of the time it's the brain understanding that something is about to give so it triggers the event. Probably something akin to a fight or flight chemical reaction if I was to surmise. Mine happened as my brain entered a state of hypoxia or hyperoxia from improperly breathing.
Some tribalistic societies still practice physical exertion and breathing patterns to induce trance like states that may or may not be trigger OBEs/NDEs.

Let me guess, before you heard that voice you reminded yourself that you were driving a car just before?
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>>42285830
death is a constant dream but without a body to wake up to, so it's just your unconscious going berserk full speed and so all you gotta do now is pray that you don't bury a lot of traumas during your life down there cause those are the things you'll encounter in 'hell'
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>>42289802
>Let me guess, before you heard that voice you reminded yourself that you were driving a car just before?
Unfortunately, no. I just remember inky blackness and then a woman's voice telling me to wake up. Once I did wake up, I saw that I was still driving and was about to jerk the wheel and slammed of the brakes because I was scared and didn't get a chance to understand my surroundings. Luckily, something stopped me from doing that for a second, so I was able to process everything around me.
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>>42285780
Sleep is damn important. Neglecting it can tax you really hard, as these generations after the invention of the smart phone are finding out.
>>42286973
I take picrel to remember dreams more vividly. It works somehow and it's cheap
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>>42289889
I hope that I am good since my dreams are playful and fun. I am always doing something cool in them.
One dream gave me an existential crisis though.
>Be me
>dreaming
>In a bank trying to get money out from account
>Bank teller gives me a lot of money (like, millions)
>She looks happy
>I think nothing of it and take the money and walk out
>Ends up that I somehow robbed the bank
>Get into a van with a normal cat that was the driver
>The cat puts the van into reverse
>Slams into the bank
>I wake up and realize that I was dreaming
>Then I woke up again and realized that I also dreamed that I woke up the first time
>Inception.gif
>Have existential crisis about reality and wonder if I am still in a dream
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>>42285841
Why is that the natural state and why is it better?
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>>42290678
Kek. Sounds like those multiverse movies where you're jumping from one multiverse to another
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>>42291211
That's almost what it feels like
"Reality" feels like a dream to me sometimes
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>>42291049
because spontaneous action
not based on thinking and contriving
not based on sleep and mindlessness (apathy, cloudy, fragmentary, discriminatory, conditioned)
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>>42293583
So like an oyster.
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>>42293656
not sure why you bring in oyster

like a human
like the tao
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>>42293708
Because oysters literally have no mind. they just act. Isnt that what you are saying is perfection?
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>>42293714
>no mind, just act, isn't that perfection?
no need to think "what perfection might be, what spontaneous action might be"
it is like the tao, empty yet inexhaustible, the more you use it, the more it produces, the more you speak (think) of it, less you embody it,
hopefully this clears up confusion
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>>42293740
There's no confusion, unless you are confused.
You want to be an oyster.
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>>42293748
can't really relate to oyster as of now (seems a bit conditioned)
can relate to nataraja (pic related)
spontaneous dance which has the side effect of transmuting all stagnant useless things to lighter energetic things
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>>42293766
Well because now you are thinking and anti-desiring being an oyster.
But when you are in the natural state - that is oyster.
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>>42293775
can't relate to oyster man!
ahahahaha what is this oyster business?
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>>42285889
and an orgasm the little death
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>>42293779
Again, because now you all in your mind and thinking about being human and what you want.
But when you stop all that mind, you are oyster.
Why does this bother you so much?
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>>42293779
render the pearl of your soul bro.
i think is what he is saying
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>>42293785
>Why does this bother you so much?
no just trying to express and be understood (in human terms primarily not oyster or some bird which could also be said spontaneously acting)

>>42293789
cool :)
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>>42293797
>trying to express and be understood
Exactly. Stop that. Return to oyster.
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>>42293801
>Exactly. Stop that. Return to nataraja dancing in your heart, return to that pearl of your soul,
exactly
yes
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>>42293823
lol look at all that baggage and fantasy and added worry you put on yourself
just...oyster
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>>42293831
>lol look at all that baggage and fantasy and added worry you put on yourself
oyster could be considered a fantasy too when said without context
all good friend, observe the dance
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>>42293848
Are you without context?
Have you not been paying attention?
It could be, but that means you are worrying about whether something is or isnt.
When you should just be oyster.
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>>42293853
so the context is us oysters explaining op "no, it isn't about mindless sleeping (avarice?)
it isn't some stimulating engagement with the world as a form of entertainment either"

have been paying attention

yes

world is my oyster now
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>>42293867
oops not avarice (dictionary error)
some word which means "going to sleep and being inattentive"
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>>42293867
mindlkess yes, sleeping no.
REally read those above quotes a lot of times.
You dont like oyster because your mind screams that it is unflattering.
But it is better, oyster.
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>>42293872
>You dont like oyster because your mind screams that it is unflattering
hmmm oyster
thanks
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>>42285841
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>>42285918
>I'd rather be awake so I can do things
Silly goose, the reason you want to be awake is because you desire external things, keeping you in a state of separation from the source
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>>42294227
So you desire a state of union with the source?
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>>42294227
implying external things are bad, lol whatever faggot
death to your "source" and your faggot soul orgy
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>>42285780

Yeah it's pretty mid philosophy.



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