>>42314567
I always will belive gnostics are actully saturn worshippers trying to make us belive that the material is "le bad" and we should all kill our egos to spiritually "ascend" while we actully Just go deeper into his chains

here come the demiurge enablers telling you he's just a poor babby and dindu nuffins

>>42314567
God is a literal retard for believing that some beautiful things in nature can be used to justify forcing people to exist and suffer in his retarded hell-world especially when the beautiful things in the world are violently gatekept. God gets triggered if I even imagine beautiful things in my mind and murders people for going to these sorts of places in real life. God is so absolutely disgusting and stupid for believing that the things he creates for himself and rich people's enjoyment somehow make it justifiable to torture people here for eternity. He literally believes that if even a single person enjoys life in this world then that justifies forcing everyone else to exist because he believes he can just call them jealous of the person who enjoys existence and he believes that will invalidate all of their unhappiness, and because of this he believes his favored people should be allowed to abuse others as much as they want. and that most people should have good things violently gatekept from them to maximize the satisfaction of his favored people with their lives, and so that he can maximize his own satisfaction by self-identifying with them, and so that he can shift blame to them for his sadism by getting them to join in on it.

This picture is so unbelievably stupid. God literally says things like "peasants don't deserve beautiful things" then posts shit like this when he knows he would literally murder the kinds of people who are unhappy with their shit lives if they went to a place like that. God is so retarded and disgusting and delusional

>>42314567
God gave man responsibility and some of them cry and say God is evil for doing so.

>>42314654
And its funny because they dont understand its an honor. The reality is that they want to live in a world where they can do whatever they want without repercussion. They dont want responsibility but at the same time want to just do whatever they want. They're just lazy and unmotivated humans trying to use the concept of Spirituality to excuse their laziness.

>>42314654
It's the creators job to eliminate evil from his creation, nobody else's.

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>>42314567
It's a "prison" and we are confined here. Personally, I just want to rape and kill the warden and his archon dogs. Idgaf what happens after that. Hopefully something cool.

>>42314714
What if Humanity demanded that they decide that rather than Him and He respected that? And this is the repercussion of that being in our fallen state?

>>42314567
then hell and evil are completely subjective
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds

>>42314567
The demiurge didn't start out as evil, it was only later interpretations that made him that way. He's mainly just an arrogant doofus. He created the physical universe, but he's too dumb to realize that there are other realms of existence so he thinks he's the one true god.

>>42314567
Low effort ragebait but I'll bite.
Sceneries and vistas look nice only as long as they stay that way and you don't zoom it to the details. Because in the details you will mostly find dirt, gunk, rot, decay, predation, parasitism, infestation, stench, pain, agony and death. Physical reality is glorified meatgrinder. Most people avert their gaze from it because their minds automatically filter inconvenient things out, being driven primarily by fear. Then there are also psychos who think they enjoy hopping around this carousel of suffering and inflicting pain on others, until it inevitable catches up to then and they cry "unfair".
So yes, it is hell and we're stuck in it, no matter how much you cope around it.
Btw if you decide to procreate, I hope you'll at least have the courage to spectate your spawn's birthing process from front seat view (you won't ofc as the typical hypocrite you are).

>>42314770
All that has to do with the fallen state of the world. Its not just humanity, its earth as a whole. Not the literal planet but thr animals as well because a repercussion of sin entering the world was death. And animals as well as plants suffer death and decay as well. Prior to sin entering the world there was no death. No death meant plants werent rotting and animals werent eating and killing eachother. Wr see the repercussion of sin (death) immediately through Cain's sin. We also see the repercussion of consuming the fruit (judging things ourselves rather than trusting God's Judgment and Law) introducing the concept of good and evil. And the imprint of that is found in the characteristic build up of Adam and Eve's first children. Cain representing sin, Abel representing innocence. Sin destroying Adam and Eve's innocence through disobeying God and thinking they knew better. Amen.

>>42314792
And the deep regret Cain felt after he was punished was what Adam and Eve must've felt, too. How crazy must it have been to know you were at fault for introducing these things into the Creation. Must've been a heavy burden to live with, seeing (and being a direct witness by living it) what things looked like before.

>>42314792
>All that has to do with the fallen state of the world.
>No death meant plants werent rotting and animals werent eating and killing eachother.
This is the usual christcuck cope and your only proof for this is an old jewish book that was edited and re-edited multiple times for purposes of more efficient mass control.
>Yes, goy, the world is not bad, the bad things you see are YOUR OWN FAULT YOU FUKN SINNER, so shut up and toil for us your GOD-anointed rulers. And if you stay a good and compliant goy, maybe you will be rewarded with a better existence after you kick the bucket (as if lol).

>>42314807
You are miserable. Im not saying that as an insult, im saying that as truth. Its very obvious. I hope you can get over this stump in your life. Have a good day.

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>>42314770
>My definition of what is dirty
>I am le edgy because I face the pain and ugliness
>Blaming things on what people do on another source
>100% anti-life posting which is 100% demonic in nature saying to just give up
lmao, you gnostics are so fucked in the head. Go ahead, you try to make something that is interesting without anything "negative" in it.

>>42314567
>dude the torture machine has pretty diamond embellishments it can't possibly be evil!

>>42314733
I don't remember deciding to suffer.
What kind of moron punishes someone for their ancestor's decisions?

>>42314827
Its really sad to see them working against themselves. You need to remember however that not all people posting like this actually believe it, theyre just trying to distribute a mind virus for clueless anons to use as fodder for their discord channels.

>>42314843
>You need to remember however that not all people posting like this actually believe it,
I noticed an overlap between doom posting satanic gnostics and genuine gnostics.

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>>42314814
ad hominem and zero counter-arguments as is usual with your ilk
>>42314827
>fucked in the head losers lalala i can't hear you!!1

Funny how the two of you are exactly the representatives of the 2 types I mentioned above (fearful normie and bravado-high psycho). Thanks for providing such a clear case in point.

>if you can't stop a world destroying global organization that worship wealth and depravity by yourself you deserve to suffer!
Ok then, what measures can we take to save the world?

>>42314851
Lots of gnostics are just fatalists that want a spiritual scape goat to hate on their life

>>42314842
Let me reiterate that since the point went above your head. Man requested from God that they be given more responsibility in regards to how man is judged for worldly things and because of that it led to a system of deceit that cares nothing for justice, but rather boils down to who has the most money to spend on lawyers who know all the loopholes and games, ontop of the development of secret societies that intertwine with said judges, lawers and even fucking jury members. A course case can be easily fixed, but this is what happens when man is left responsible and refuses to ask God for help.

I ask God for help all the time and He answers my prayers. He is attentive to those who genuinely seek Him out and love Him. And its not because thats what He needs, but rather because He is Righteous and Just Himself.

He want us to understand things and grow, despite the state of the world. And He makes lemonade out of lemons. All of this serves a putpose. But it will never make any sense unless you sincerely seek Him out.

Like a Father aiding His children. He feeds His own, even the disobedient. But He generously rewards those who are attentive to what He expects out of us.

>>42314855
>See how i point out your "le falacy" and how smart i am

You live saying everything is bad and that you are a prison to not take responsability of your own life, you are, without any emotion or hatred behind it, miserable.

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>>42314855
Anon, you are literally proving my point, not the other way around.
>I am silly
>wall of text
oh my god, you fuckers really are idiots on the left lane of things who finally just admitted that God is real and you just hate him because you can't get stuff for free and kill who you want to kill.

>>42314855
>ad hominem and zero counter-arguments as is usual with your ilk
That's literally what you did, which is why I didnt even bother with your responses.

>christcuck cope

>attacking the credibility of the Bible rather than acknowledging the points I made

>random, nonsense greentext tangents of childishly insulting God/the faith
You are a miserable, immature hypocrite.

>>42314860
Oh, but you cant! Because that magically becomes a federal crime LOL. Then, magically the law matters to them again! Thankfully, Jesus Christ has reassured us its all under control.

>>42314867
> Man requested from God that they be given more responsibility in regards to how man is judged for worldly things and because of that it led to a system of deceit that cares nothing for justice
I didn't vote for this. Am I not of man, or must I live by the tyranny of others against my will? Is the existence of my will alone evidence that I deserve to suffer unrepentant evil that seems to get away with whatever it wants?
A good and loving god would provide balance but at best I'm allowed distractions or ignorance. I have a soul that rages with justice and any attempt to express it is violently punished, sometimes even by my peers who claim to share my views.
There is no good in the current world that is allowed to flourish.
This is hell. The effort is to try and turn hell into heaven, something I'm beginning to lose hope in.

>>42314893
>I didn't vote for this
Then ask God for help.

>>42314567
After looking into gnosticism, it adds a layer of complexity that really isn't there. Just accept Jesus Christ into your heart and soul. Boom, done!

No soul trap bullshit and the blessings you received eventually reveal themselves. I love Lord Jesus Christ!

>>42314902
Its not even complexity, its just pure garbage meant to deceive.

>>42314898
That immediate accusation that I've never tried tells me all I need to know. You deny every effort or request and then blame people for not doing enough. You are evil.

>get born into a defective prison body
>get tormented but manage to survive this long
>rightly call out this agony that you know in your soul you do not deserve
>"just take responsibility, bro."
Justice must be served.

>>42314909
Its literally Just fatalism put in a veil of "woooooo look at these secrets of reality, wooooo"

>>42314871
>>42314882
I'd rather face the uncomfortable truth even if it makes me "bitter and miserable" than live in self-righteous fantasies your scam of a religion is offering.
>>42314881
>you can't get stuff for free and kill who you want to kill
That's just your own projection stemming from your obsession with politics and rabid leftists.

Btw just in case I'll repeat myself (since your ilk always conveniently ignores this subject):
>if you decide to procreate, I hope you'll at least have the courage to spectate your spawn's birthing process from front seat view
After all, if you preach le "beauty of life", it would be just fair to witness it personally in full glory.
But you will not, none of you hypocritical cowards do.

>>42314910
No, you are evil for not giving God a sincere chance and genuinely seeking Him out and thrn seeing what He is really about. You tried, nothing happened and you got mad. Now im wondering if you ever managed to learn how to ride a bike since the furst sight of panic, fear or distress turns you into an infant. You get up and try again. Yiu dont cry on the floor and throw a tantrum because you got hurt and now you hate the bike and wherls and the person who made bikes forever cause you scraped your fucking knee trying to ride a bike. Boo fucking hoo you big baby.

Either sincerely do it right and thrn ask for help, or fucking cope. It is not God's responsibility yo make you give a fuck, that's yours.

>>42314924
>I'd rather face the uncomfortable truth even if it makes me "bitter and miserable" than live in self-righteous fantasies your scam of a religion is offering.
You again didnt adress any points I made, just further ad hominem attack. Unironically, take your meds.

>>42314929
>No, you are evil for not giving God a sincere chance and genuinely seeking Him out
More accusations from the ignorant, whipping the victim without knowledge of their life. This isn't good or virtuous no matter how you spin it. You cannot possibly tell me I deserve what I'm getting you vile demon.

>>42314936
>You again didnt adress any points I made
What points? I don't subscribe to your religious mental circumcision, the mythology of which boils down to "it's your fault the world is shit, you sinner". Which I believe I clearly stated.
You on the other hand did indeed ignore most of my points and example while huffing your self-righteous biblebabble farts.

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>>42314924
>I got him seething about le politics
It's not politics, its your chimp fucker brain that wants to have free shit and kill without impunity and needing to blame God for needing to get off your fat ass and LIVE. And I willingly came back to earth to fight the good fight, satanist. I have the receipts to prove it.

Hell, your argument with everyone here is the complete antithesis to your movement. You care enough to not only engage but to actively get angry which is what life is. You willingly cast yourself into hell and you have nobody to blame but yourself.

>>42314956
>that wants to have free shit and kill without impunity
Again, since literally nowhere in my posts I said this, the only conclusion is to assume that's your own projection. Which is unsurprising now that I see you are a larpertroll or a deranged schizo:
>I willingly came back to earth to fight the good fight, satanist. I have the receipts to prove it.
Go ahead prove it, lol.
>You care enough to not only engage but to actively get angry which is what life is.
I engage cos of boredom mostly. I doubt you are on this board for a different reason (unless you are indeed insane, which is quite probable).
And I'm not angry - that's just you projecting again, chances are.
>You willingly cast yourself into hell
This IS hell, dumbass.

Btw, good to see how you keep ignoring uncomfortable examples. Works like a clock.

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>>42314988
>further proving my points

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>>42314956
that nigga is retarded and obsessed with breeding. chuddie nigga ass fucks up our comfy retention threads i cant not NOOOTICE his shitposts

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>>42315020

I love god, he is such a cool dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f3EvAt5M3o

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>>42314567
They are organized beings. They are angles. Think like the Metatron. You understand that these beings are magical? They could easily dominate the human world because for one, our minds/consciousness are more vulnerable to attacks and manipulations and DECEPTION.. Two, unlike them our human societies are decentralized ones. Our governments are centralized. But in the Metatron? Everything is connected. This is what the heavenly body really is. A totally connected divine matrix. This is how these beings are able to form advanced, cohesive networks/societies and harmonize with each other in order to produce the greatest possible result. That is a utopian civilization.

>>42314651
>the beautiful things in the world are violently gatekept
Huh? In what way?

>>42314582
Funny in a way, since that's not gnosticism.
In a nutshell, gnosticism is the practice of procuring and preserving knowledge, as much knowledge as possible.
There are people who know of the White Sun and the Black Sun, the dual polarity concept that you find in the Kybalion applied to the astrology of the Sun.
Makes one wonder what the poles of the other planets are...
Anyway, some people think that they won't reach balance and harmony until they embody both polarities. I thought so too but never practiced Black Sun rituals.
More recently I learned why avoiding the Black Sun is a good idea.
It's got nothing to do with being- and performing deeds in alignment with both polarities. It's all about accepting you have the capacity for both, and choosing the Light.
Light sometimes means fighting the Dark, and being Dark sometimes means harming innocent people.
Because the latter's always wrong, the Black Sun worshippers always commit vices and invite judgement on themselves. Judgement in the form of violent repercussions from the Light, which must teach the victims of darkness how to stand up for themselves without turning evil themselves, and defend those who can't.

The gnostics who practice Black Sun worship don't know too much, for their own good.
They don't even realise they're worshipping Akhenaten's monotheistic irreality.
The irony of it is that this means the Demiurge is in fact Light, as the Lightbearer obviously would be.
It's why he's got the sun around his neck.
That makes it very important to disassociate emotions from information.
What you think the Demiurge is, may be a lie.
It may be a simple copy paste of a term from Greek gouvernments both before and within the Roman Empire.
Archon and Demiurge do come from the Greek settlement on Crimea, after all.
The same structure was applied throughout the Greek territories.
Confusing 1 local king and his democratic council for a supreme overlord beyond the dimensions of space would be foolish.

>>42314567
Okay archon.

Mountains are ugly

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>>42314956
>And I willingly came back to earth to fight the good fight, satanist. I have the receipts to prove it.

Not the seething gnostic in this thread, I’m curious by what you meant by this. Pls share the receipts, crusaderanon

>>42314567
He does wrong, but the world itself is just geometry in a condensed spatial format.
The wrong he does, I take formal notice of when it affects deleteriously the will and expression of others for his own to be held as "more important"
Official summons for Yahweh on account of this here:
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>>42314567
I mean from a certain point of view, even in this picture, there is a countless amount of microscopic living beings killing and devouring each other, life is conflict, but it can still be beautiful and worthwile.

>>42314567
Evil people are also capable of creating beautiful things. By the way, according to the bible, all this beauty is vanity or in vain.

>>42314567
sounds like something Lucifer would say

>rocks
>water
>wet rocks
>air
Can't you see? Look harder, beyond your focus. It is an illusion. There is no truth in this world, for every single "thing" is transient and finite, this world is evil because of that, it knows death, in fact it is the birthplace of death.

>>42314855
>muh demiurge rewards le ppl for tormenting the bad and keeping them stuck in cycle of materiality so they can expwrience the equivalent of being saddled up with you themselves
>le ebil

>Xuansha and Tianlong went into the mountains, where they saw a tiger. Tianlong said, "Master - a tiger!"

>Xuansha said, "It's your tiger."

lion*

i bet sinning on the great demiurge slandering him with your lack of faith and disrespectful presence for years probably havent been helping you much either lmao

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A hylic with a dictionary is like a crab with a grenade
They don’t have souls you couldn’t convince them of anything higher even if you tried
A hylic has no concept of anything spiritual they function on materialism even if they decide to join a religion it’ll be for the smells bells and looks perhaps even theology over any spiritual experience
Hylics are incapable of forming loving bonds with others and as such form situationships and get divorced over money and and make friendships and I add each other over a perceived minor slight
Hylcis crave pleasure over anything else
Hylics always function on materialism, and will always be convinced that this pigpen is actually a good place to be.
Remember engaging with them is a waste of time and deadlife theory is real it’ll work wonders.

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>>42314567
Earth is heaven. Humans make it Hell.

>>42314567
>let me cherrypick a photo with a waterfall
>heh that will disprove muh gnooostics
npcmaxxed and slavepilled

>>42314827
A positive with a negative is no positive at all. You live in a pigsty and sing hymns to it because you know nothing else.

>>42314714
good and evil are part of creation
light casts shadow
your computer works becaue of electricty which is driven by opposing polarity

both good and evil have their justification. it's up to us to decide which rules on earth. what are you doing about the filthy rich pedophiles that keep us in a perpetual war?

>>42314567
Are the gnostics in the room with us?

>>42315598
Knowledge is fake and gay. The more knowledge one collects and disperses, the further the Truth gets corrupted.
Feasting on the tree of Knowledge. Repeating the original sin over and over again. No good.

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>>42314567

Mountains represent mountains of skulls. The Demiurge killed almost everybody, then encoded his deeds when he terraformed the place. Earth used to be more flat.

>>42314567
AI pic slop

>>42314567
Life has gotten so horrible that it doesn't even seem real.

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Yes

>>42314567
Yes. Would you like to make a point?