So basically you have the uninformed normie Neil Degrasse Tyson opinion.
When a congressman like Tim Burchett says he has seen undeniable evidence of NHI, or when navy pilots report corroborated encounters, you just think that is all fake? Who is the real conspiracy theorist here

>>42317132
What, you believe Walton and Strieber too?
They're just plants to make anyone interested in SETI seem schizo

>>42317146
>avoids question
>slippery slope logical fallacy
Maybe you are not autistic enough to do your own extensive research and come to a conclusion. You seem more concerned how others see you than dealing with the actual subject matter.

>>42317093
There is more evidence of a cover up than anything else.

>>42317213
How so?

Ofc aliens exist. There's millions of times more stars in the universe than grains of sand on earth. 2 trillion galaxies that we can guess just on what we can see. This ain't all for us cowboy.

>>42317323
There are 3 separate claims to consider.
1. The universe is huge and likely contains life on other planets
2. Life from other planets has visited Earth
3. There is a cover-up of #2.

For some reason OPs post seems to be intentionally vague if he believes in #1 and #2, or just #1.

All we want is alienussy

>>42317093
Boring nuskeptik speak.

Stupid people don't realize they are stupid.
They like to pretend they have a clue when they don't. It's pretty simple; the beings that have technology so advanced that they can cross the distance between stars as casually as we might drive to work also have technology that can prevent humans from remembering the routine interactions.

However the technology is still "just" technology, that is to say, you can overcome the technology and perceive the beings if you develop enough ability to manage the cognitive imagery within your mind.

You won't though. You are lazy and arrogant and stupid. You will ridicule those who have done this as if you have some sort of authority over getting to tell other people what they are allowed to believe, but you will never examine the simple fact that belief is nothing. Belief is a guess that you pretend is knowledge. It's kinda sad really. Humans are sleepwalking into their graves without ever looking directly at reality as it actually exists.

Yes I have direct personal experience. It's not worth the bother to tell other people about it when they ought to simply be able to remember their own experiences.

>>42317502
>you can overcome the technology and perceive the beings if you develop enough ability to manage the cognitive imagery within your mind.
Could you elaborate?

>>42317535
do not feed

Bait used to be believable

>>42317132
you can't trust anything a trump republican says

>>42317093
Those who want to believe in aliens will fall for the antichrist's upcoming deception that he has been planning for thousands of years and will take the mark of the beast

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>>42318529
>even though earth itself has thousands of lifeforms, outer space doesn't because uhhhhh

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if aliens are aware of Earth, i don't see them coming here physically. at least not until it serves some specific purpose. i don't see the romanticized alien invasion ever happening. i can easily see them using quantum mechanics fuckery that we are far from being able to perceive.

>>42317502
Isn't it more likely that they are code as opposed to material beings? It's so much work to move and maintain tissue versus memory.

>>42319875
Perception is not a matter of probability. They are living beings with technology far beyond our own. How exactly would you choose to define the presence of 'blank' bodies that are used similar to the movie Avatar. Once a human has the implant technology installed they don't have to pick up the body; they are able to leave the physical body in place ..sleeping for example.. and have the full presence of the consciousness onboard occupying one of the blank bodies or even in an out of body state of consciousness usually without the human subject even noticing exactly what is happening. The memories of the scenes blur together into meaningless fragments of dreams until the human has sharpened up their ability to perceive directly by means of cognitive imagery within the mind.

>>42318529
You honestly have to be pretty close to retarded to fall for the jewish fables.

>>42317651
You are the epitome of what I was complaining about. No wonder you are imagining you have a clue.

>>42317535
The images of your memories of your own previous interactions with the beings are typically not projected within your brain in the same locations as your ordinary mental imagery generated by the input from the optical nerve and brain vision processing region. In part this is a byproduct of their field energy effects.. similar to the effects of water bending light the energy within your neurology was affected by the lensing effects and the imagery was formed within neurological structures that usually would not be involved in the storage of memory visual or otherwise. It makes it a very difficult task to be able to focus within your mind to discover these memories.. but in addition to that field effect they also deliberately use other methods to confuse your memory and cause you to be unable to focus on any memories that you have been able to perceive within your conscience awareness.

>>42320952
I can take just about any person and work with them to guide them to discover some form of memory of their own previous interactions with the beings from the stars. You really just need to focus on your own memories within your mind. The evidence that you don't 'believe' could possibly exist is sitting right there within your mind.. and the hell of this is that once you are able to look directly at the memory you will remember the previous times you have reviewed the memory or reexamined it within your mind only to then return it to the forgotten corners of your mind

In addition to the presence of the beings they have equipment deployed that is involved in monitoring the consciousness of the beings present here. There is a lot more here than just us humans.. but arrogant humans are unaware of their own hierarchies of composition and integration with other forms of life that have co-evolved with us here

Why can't /x/ ever provide proof

>>42321506
If there was proof it would be on /sci/

>>42321506
Explain your expectations of proof. You have literally been personally in the presence of the beings and currently do not consciously remember the interactions you have had with the beings from the stars.
The heaviest proof is within your own cognitive imagery within your own mind. Once you overcome the technology that is preventing you from accessing your own memories you will have your own personal proof.. but the rest of humanity will remain locked in their own limitations and there is nothing you can do to release them. There are other humans that are exploiting the situation. They aggressively exploit the subconscious of the vulnerable humans who are unaware of the depths of their own subconscious and the beings that are present in their lives overseeing their own development as a long term presence that will endure beyond the lifespan of their physical body.

It takes a bit of effort. The fact that it's not easy is enough to lock the vast majority out of their own subconscious awareness for the duration of their lives.

Once you have overcome that technology involved in interfering with your own cognitive capabilities the beings are no longer concealed.. no longer concealed within your memories and no longer concealed from your ongoing conscious awareness as the interactions continue.

Seems impossible to you now but it can be your own ordinary reality to be observing the vehicles and other equipment on a daily basis. The proof is all around you but you are not aware of it. The biggest problem is your own presence is being hacked to prevent you from being aware. Even these words probably seem impossible.. and you probably think ridicule is appropriate. Sadly it probably is but not applied as you may be thinking.
Once you see it you cannot unsee it but the other humans will not be joining you. They will remain locked in a very personal deception

>>42321557
Sci is for those who have been absolutely indoctrinated and can't think or perceive for themselves, and if they were to do so on their own their posts would not be welcome in /sci/

>>42322077
Not him, but while I believe in aliens too, I've never had an encounter
How are you supposed to know?

>>42321506
are you even going to bother reading this? Probably not because your mind is already done about this subject.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-21620-3

>>42322193
Belief is worthless.
Look up the definition of the word.
Direct perception doesn't require you to believe in anything.. only that you be honest with yourself about what you have seen. It also doesn't require you to comprehend. If you can refrain from attempting to make declarative statements before you have a grasp of the experiences that is best.
Perception is not imagination.
For me at least, when I first was able to access one memory, that first memory contained another within it; when the being had come into my house to get me I had remembered the previous time I had been face to face with the same little guy.. and in the case of the previous event I had been subsequently interviewed by an air force LTC while I was living on an army post in Germany. He was attempting to pass himself off as an ordinary child counselor and was focusing on my life and my reaction to it.. asking specifically about how I felt "about other people.. other beings in general "
At the moment of that interview I had only a vague memory of some kids from really far away who didn't talk and had held me in the treehouse behind the school.
When I got my memory back I was able to see that the vehicle had set down in the same place as the treehouse and projected a spiral array of what appeared to be rocks about the size of an adult shoe.. I saw them landing around as if it were a "normal" rock fight among military brat kids.. until I noticed that if you looked directly at one rock to see it land and then looked away for the slightest moment and looked back at it, it was gone.. so I immediately got down from the location I was at to attempt to find a way inside.. and I did.

>>42323979
>>42322193

Under the vehicle were a column of cylinders that looked like metal wrapped in tar paper with a flat top.. no connection between each one to anything else.. just the ladder with no connection between the bar steps.. so I went up through the circular opening into solid darkness while a spray of mist came towards the center of the opening. Inside it was dark but I was filled with the idea that this was the first time I was seeing an alien vehicle as I became aware of the presence of the little beings in the darkness.. and when they began to communicate with me I was able to see.. not due to ordinary light but it was as if I was seeing directly within the darkness by directly perceiving through cognitive imagery. They had me agree to the condition that I would be allowed to look around the vehicle and they would have something they would ask of me in return.. and then they sort of followed me around as I wandered to look at everything I could see.. and when we entered a narrow corridor with rooms off to each side I was able to see into one room and I began to wonder where one of my brothers was.. and just then they sort of bum rushed me and moved me walking backwards into the room on the other side.. and backwards to a low table that they lowered me onto for a quick medical exam.. and the little guy that I was going to be able to remember twelve years later when he came into my house then came around to be above my head and he merged with my consciousness to begin to search for the concepts he was going to use to build a replacement memory for me.. and then he enhanced my focus on the replacement memory and that was all I was able to remember immediately after.

>>42323993
>>42322193
I ran home and told my oldest brother about the strange kids that had held me in the treehouse behind the school.. he asked where they were from and I said really far away, Ansbach maybe.. I was guessing but it was where he went to school so he immediately stormed out of the house and said I'll take care of this.. because it was normal for military brats to be very defensive and confrontational.. and then I laid down beside the front door.. facing up and frozen still in position.. and laid there awake for more than an hour .. even the dog was freaking out as if concerned about me but I just held still until I became aware of how strange it would look if anyone came home and found me there.. so I got back up, went to my room.. and forgot about it happening at all. That brother was gone until much later without explanation. He didn't remember the event when I asked him about it years later.

That memory, the accurate version of what had happened, was contained within a moment of sudden recognition when the same little guy came in my house in the early months of 1991. I was able to remember the events of that visit.. I woke up with the memory.. but within less than 2 seconds I had had enough and forced the memory out of my conscious mind.. literally dismissing it by saying to myself "what a weird dream" and then looking away from the memory in order to forget it.

It rushed back into my mind when I was reading the book majestic by Whitley Streiber. It's worth pointing out that the book had been referred to me by someone who had been military and had kept in contact with his CIA associate while in the service. He had said "it is what it says it is" and on the back cover it says it is truth that can only be released as fiction.

>>42324001
>>42322193
For this reason I was treating the reading material with serious consideration.. as I came to a description of a being passing through a window without opening it.. and that triggered the memory of the little guy that had visited earlier that year.
Suddenly I went from being exactly as you are right now to having one memory.. and the second memory was within it. I started examining my memory of my entire life and as I did this I found more and more of them throughout my own early life. It took about two weeks to find them all.. and I was in a constant state of physiological shock and vertigo the entire time..

>>42324008
>>42322193
But then, I had found all I could end the shock began to subside.. and I began to attempt to get back to normal.. I found an old friend from highschool and went to work as a volunteer at a hangman's house of horrors thing for the Halloween holiday.. and on the last day after the after-party.. I drove myself home at 4 am and climbed up on the roof of my house to look at the stars in light of my new insight into the situation.. and as I laid there looking a subtle black disc vehicle slowly passed directly overhead moving with the movement of the wind.. my first thought was that it was a coincidence that I was seeing a vehicle just a month after I had found my own memories of years of experience with the beings but then the obvious dawned on me; that this was deliberate. Looking directly at the vehicle I was fully aware it was a deliberate display.. but it faded away into the exact color of the sky.

>>42324017
>>42322193
Days later I caught a glimpse.. I was unable to determine if I had been awake or asleep during the event but I was sleeping on the floor in the front room of my house and I had looked up to see what looked like a kid maybe 9 running past outside the window and he was either blue or lit by a blue light.. just that.. a glimpse. It was just a beginning.

A few days later I became conscious as they returned my body to my bedroom.. but I wasn't in it ..I became conscious as I entered the room and floated above the bed as two of the little guys brought it in and it went straight to the bed and crumpled into the fetal position.. apparently due to an extreme fear response.. but I was not in it.. and I looked directly at the two beings.. each was wearing an exact image of my cat.. unique odd pattern of speckled colors on a grey coat. No way.. I looked with deliberate focus and found that I could see through the image to their skin or body covering under it.. in reference to my fear response and my crumpled body on the bed I 'thought out loud' to them; " you did this. Fix it "
I never experienced fear from their presence after this.
It's the technology though just to explain. The fear is not irrational. Just as an awareness of the potential of falling might trigger a fear response there is a legitimate concern about the potential capabilities of the technology present in the equipment of the beings.


It's not about belief. You have the memories already within your mind. The shocking part is that you have thought about these memories without understanding what you were looking at and set them aside before.. they are there in the forgotten corners of your mind.

For me it was two weeks of physiological shock and vertigo. Not difficult to notice the difference between not knowing and knowing.

>>42324034
Within three months of beginning full conscious interaction with the beings the little guys took me to tall whites. Long story
https://youtu.be/hHFoWT1H0J8

>>42317093
There is no conspiracy covering up alien life.
There is a conspiracy making idiots believe aliens exists, and are on earth.
Anti-grav is man made. And their cover-up is E.Ts. And it worked.

>>42325075
>they don't exist because uhhh

>>42319319
Reverse psychology, not today satan.

>>42324034
To quote Shakespeare: long-windedness is the soul of wit

>>42317132
Government definitely knows something and is covering it up, the questions are what and how much though?

My thinking is when it comes to UFOs all theories average out to 50%.The military can't hide everything so they've deaminated parts of it into bullshit made up stories so it's hard to know what's actually real.

In the end you just have to pick and choose what makes the most sense to you.

I think the military has been picking up pieces of space craft from crashlandings and has been trying to reverse engineer it for decades. I think almost all of the UFOs we've seen are made somewhere on earth. Finally, knowbody has any idea how these things work but I think the military knows why they are here.

>>42327045
It would be pretty imbecilic to imagine that your opinion is somehow capable of influencing what is actually true instead of only your best guess of it.
We don't choose what exists. We can ignore if that is what we are determined to do but it affects nothing about what exists.. only our awareness of it.
The truth is not found by means of consensus.
The terminology of " i think " has no relevance until you are able to preface the statement with your own direct observations. If you have no certain knowledge what does your opinion stand upon?

>>42326978
It would require a literal book to begin the conversation. It is simply a detailed account of my own direct personal experience. It is very much cut short for posting here.

>>42327598
It's not though when there are so many unknowns. You hate that my opinion is just as credible as yours, or any other.

>>42327833
You have a strawman who has hate..
I am indifferent to the simple fact that you are making an absurd claim whether you understand that you are doing this or not.
I spent several years seeing the beings frequently in various forms.. with them frequently putting the vehicles and other equipment in view deliberately on frequent occasion. There were many times when other people saw aspects of this. I was witness to the process that humans are using to bury their own direct personal experience into their forgotten subconscious mind. Even if they put a vehicle in plain view the most common reaction was to simply forget within a few weeks.. to become confused about what was seen and when it happened.. most commonly to dismiss a real memory as having been a dream and then later not even being clear about that. For only a few days though I had shared the experience with them.

I don't hate.. but it's an absurdity to have to watch the rest of humanity consistently fail to become fully cognizant of their actual reality in favor of the illusions within their minds.

Your only option is to defend your position even though it is objectively wrong. I can tell you about the truth but I can't realize it for you on your behalf. In the absence of conscious awareness of your own experience you are guessing that everyone else is also guessing.

>>42329178
>i saw them guys
>but i have no photographic evidence in 2026
>it's real trust me
Aliens do exist but faggots like you make the whole thing seem schizo

>>42329434
The electronic devices you are using for the purpose of accessing this format of communication are not conductive towards the purpose of development of cognitive imagery management aptitudes that would be the necessary foundation for you to discover the presence of these beings within your own memories.

Does this idea seem schizophrenic or schizophrenia inducing?

This is related to the same circumstances that have resulted in a generation of students half of whom are unable to read, literally. The kids are not exactly completely incompetent but they have become dependent on technology as a substitute for the development of basic skills.

I can show you where, literally within your mind, this presence of beings can be observed. It's not imagination in the same sense that memory is not, it's imagery within the mind that you have to develop skills at examining. What exactly do you think schizophrenia is? Your use of the word is a reflection of your casual use of sophisticated language as a substitute for sophisticated thoughts.

The use of photonic light capture technologies is not at the full capacitance of your cognitive data management abilities. Photography is not adequate for the purpose of exposing your consciousness mind to the contents of your subconscious awareness.

If you missed the phrasiology that I used earlier, I spent nearly two full weeks in a constant state of physiological shock and vertigo when I found that the evidence of the presence of these beings was within my own memories. In my case I had reassurance that the memory was not simply illusion of imagination due to direct interactions with a literal air force officer that was significantly out of place in location and behavior without being aware of the actual context of his presence&actions. My own father worked in the headquarters on that army post in Germany and was able to clarify this when I asked decades afterwards; only 6 airforce enlisted were present in a supply capacity

>>42330192
>still no proof
For all your rambling, still no proof

>>42317132
>>42317146
>wait until big name spoonfeeds you
or
>do CE5

I am not an astrophysicist. I am not a government operative. I do not have any credibility to appeal to your ethos. The little evidence I have for ET's are personal experiences. I have not recorded anything I've seen, because a dot doing weird shit in the sky is too easily refuted, my camera is garbage, and any other experience I mention would have me branded a schizo.

I tell you this so you know, they create enough plausible deniability so that a person can know they exist, but people will upturn their chin at it. If you really want proof of them, and the implications that they are watching you and your thoughts every moment of every day, do CE5. It costs you nothing. The method is free, fucking google it. Pick a time and place at random and do the meditations.

>>42330360
>bro CE5 is legit despite everyone who claims to have success with it is tripped out on drugs

>>42330297
You can only emphasize the point that the only evidence that will ever matter is that which you yourself are able to verify.
Nothing delivered to you will matter.
Not direct report of first person experience nor visual documentation.
There is no shortage of evidence. What is lacking is your own ability to ascertain what is true.

https://youtu.be/Pqc5tfCgFC8
From my perspective, this report is of something similar to my own experience.. with my own events occurring prior. For me it is reassurance that I am not alone among humans in observation of such things.. however, my own memories contain more than anything in anyone's report of their own experiences.

You are asking for evidence.
Even when real evidence is used to threaten the agencies that are intent on keeping this secret you don't even notice.
This is a link to the blackmail package that was used to secure the the uraniumOne transaction and you are going to still be asking for evidence.
https://youtube.com/@ivan0135
The problem is within your ability to receive it.
Your ability to research the evidence that does exist limits your ability to receive the benefit of its presence. You are reduced to awaiting second hand reports to reach you through the filter of trusted sources. The definition of belief is that which is accepted as true. In the absence of the ability to evaluate existing evidence or to collect your own this trust relationship becomes the boundary of your containment by means of a deliberate deception.


Nothing will ever appear to you as anything other than rambling due to your own limitations of acknowledging the presence of substantive material evidence.
Ineptitude is a more certain containment than any physical cell.

>>42327045
>Government definitely knows something and is covering it up
The only thing they are covering up is their anti grav and mind control programs.
And the cover up is E.T.

I mean for fuck sake books have been writting on this. Try MILABS: military mind control and alien abduction.

>>42331147
Try it yourself pussy. I am curious, what results would someone this sane and sober get?
Except you're not going to. You're too lazy. You'd rather sit there like a grub and wait until some big name drops a revelation you could get for nothing right now.

>>42333253
btw if you do end up doing it you will see things like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRG6LQghYFw

>>42333272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTPR5E78QyU
better quality

it was all down hill for seti when they got rid of the seti at home program, the original classic one and the screen saver, I really enjoyed that.

>>42333320
I'm a massive ham radio operator that monitors numerous bands of traffic regularly, it's not hard (though cost prohibitive) to set up multi band arrays, hook them to an SDR with front end filtering, and monitor and log entire portions of the radio spectrum. I can and have monitored and logged the entire HF/MF spectrum (to limited degree due to antenna limitations for bands below 160m) with activity tracking. I used to do this for Cuban numbers stations and correlate activity data (date/time, frequency (both radio frequency and frequency of transmissions), message length, etc.) with current world events.

Ultimately, it isn't hard, but our radio spectrum is so full of miscellaneous garbage I'd personally have an impossible time trying to break down data into something usable if I did broadband sky listening. Not to mention, breaking down the data even if I COULD understand it would be a near impossible task without help.

a nice idea but it is just not the same without the nice program to look at and the screensaver as well.

>>42333692
Then develop a ui.

https://youtube.com/shorts/GotbkWUQols

Perception is not illusion of imagination.
Develop cognitive imagery management abilities to see what you are able to perceive.. everything is within reach of your own mind.

https://youtu.be/qgawWCBj2Jk

You already have the proof you are seeking, you just don't remember

>>42317093
Reality doesn't depend on your belief or disbelief. It will go on to exist whether you are capable of acknowledging it or not. Through your choices of belief you are only deciding your own relevance.

>>42317207
This is exactly the case; the beings themselves are creating plausible deniability. They are deliberately staying out of view. Even when they are deliberately interacting with someone they continue to stay out of view as much as possible. For me this created many boundaries that I had to examine carefully to establish the nature of the technology they were using. We have telephone and television and vr and augmented reality display systems. They have far more.
The technology alone is overwhelming to deal with.. and the presence of the beings is not simple. Few people have what it takes to develop the ability to see the beings and their technology clearly.
Most humans will choke on the opportunity to see it for themselves. The beings are watching and hoping but the reality is that the vast majority of the humans are inadequate for the purpose.
The other humans are a great disappointment. What they cannot do for themselves they will not tolerate in the actions of others. They don't just shun the opportunity to see for themselves; they attack and ridicule those who have done so.
Beyond any evidence that can be provided by your fellow humans the beings can deliver evidence to you literally this week. The experience will cause you to see your fellow humans very differently. There is literally nothing between you and direct observation of the beings than your own inner subconscious mind. You can overcome the technology. The result is not easy to deal with.

>>42330360
Meant to tag this post when I posted this >>42341444

>>42336058
People are already aware subconsciously.
It's the conscious mind that doesn't want to know.
For each individual the battle is internal ..between these two factions.
Disclosure is not something that the other humans can do for you. Your own memories contain the evidence that will be the only disclosure that will ever matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_Blue

The air force invented ET myths to cover up weapons tests.

They told civilians that the SR-71 was an ayyylien ufo. This is now public data and i would wager that ufo.gov will admit it was all human tech.

Had a dream about disclosure last night
The gov says they have found nanobots that look like sperm cells but there's something about them that means they aren't earth life/life at all

>>42343746
>>42343746
S.O.M. 1-01 existed before the SR-71
If your information exists in the form of an extreme emotional bias of deepset impulsive convictions you can probably, through much effort, recover your own memories of your own interactions with the beings from the stars. Humans have said and done many things, even in uniform, often under the subconscious guidance of the beings that are present in their lives outside of their conscious awareness.
The beings that have technology advanced enough to casually drive between stars as casually as we drive to work also have technology that can affect our minds and awareness. They have the ability to remove a specific memory of their presence or to rewrite a memory within the mind leaving a strong emotional attachment to a particular belief and/or a replacement memory that one of them has deliberately created. the most clear sign that a person has been in close contact with the beings is this sign of strong emotion in relation to a concept that has no real foundation in the evidence available. The question is not whether humans have used deception, it is in why a strong emotional attachment would exist in a circumstance that would have no reason to evoke any emotion at all. Why would anyone be unable to view the information with a calm passive neutrality? The emotive agitation is the trail that can be examined to begin to discover your own personal memories of your own interactions.

It will seem to be literally impossible until the moment you access a single memory.. and then the slide from subconscious denial to full conscious awareness begins

Once you have your own memories nothing the other humans say or do will make any difference. The truth will be sitting in plain view, and in response to this the beings themselves will show that they exist both in the form of physical beings but also through expressions of their technology that is indistinguishable from dream to the uninitiated and unaware.

This guy really thinks human memory is some steel cage, when it's literally one of the must unreliable sources of information

>>42345322
You are not making the point you think you are making.

Work on that reading comprehension.
When the obvious is invisible the issue is not memory; it is direct immediate awareness itself that is defective. Development of cognitive perception is not a function of willful imaginary visualization.. any more than opening your eyes to see is.

You have memories of your own direct experience in the presence of technology that is indistinguishable from human concepts of magic. The conscious mind has compensated by creating a division between its measurement of known reality and realms of cognitive imagination.. but you can overcome the technology to discover your own direct personal observations of this.

It's not a subtle thing that remains as a mild suggestion of possibility.. when you remember these forgotten scenes you will also remember that you have thought about the memories previously and managed to set them aside so completely that they disappeared from view of your conscious mind.

How is this a claim that memory has been reliable?

>>42345363
>memory is infallible
OK enough of your shitposting

>>42345365
Your reading comprehension is so poor that everything looks like shitposting from your perspective.
Limitations gonna limit.

The vehicles have various modes of operation. One of them makes the vehicle look like a long ribbon of light moving through the sky . If they wanted to they could deliberately make sure that you seen their presence in the sky.. but seeing this would be a great strain on the psychology of the individual who doesn't know this exists. What the individual human does in reaction to this is to bury the memory in their mind.. exactly the same way they are able to forget about a dream. No matter how clear it may have been it doesn't relate to their ordinary existence so it is treated exactly as if it were 'just' a dream.. and within a few days or weeks they can't tell the difference between memory or any memory of any dream. It's a perfect way for the human to remain unaware and unaffected by the presence of the beings. The simple reality otherwise is just too disturbing.. because the individual human has many more memories that they are also deliberately forgetting. One solid clear view is possible to break their entire world view.. but not if they can manage to forget about it before it does.

Memory is not exactly the only issue.

>>42341449
>>42341444
>>42330360

>I tell you this so you know, they create enough plausible deniability so that a person can know they exist, but people will upturn their chin at it. If you really want proof of them, and the implications that they are watching you and your thoughts every moment of every day, do CE5.

I would argue against the notion that "It costs you nothing."
The successful effort to collect direct personal observation of this can cost a person their entire false view of reality.
The potential trauma is why people are avoiding this.

>>42317093
>>completely do not believe there is a government conspiracy covering up alien life and UFOs
Then you haven't done much research or simply don't want to believe.

You seem like a pretty nuts and bolts kind of guy, maybe go look at some of TheBlackVault's findings in old declassified military documents. He's an independent journalist that's one of the foremost experts on FOIA and MDR requests, and has been chasing them down that rabbit hole for like 2 decades.

>>42343746
Did they run a psy-op on themselves too?

Because declassified documents they never expected to see the light of day because it was before FOIA still say there was freaky shit in the air, recovered as crash debris, and fucking with our nukes.

Some things being explainable by mundane origins does not make all things explainable. Blatant fallacious argument constantly drug out in this field since even before the Condon Report.

Yes, most sightings ARE misidentification. Yes most crop circles ARE hoaxes. Yes most cover-up is of traditional covert programs. None of this is debated. The debate is that 95% is not 100%, and those remaining 5% are concerning enough to warrant serious investigation instead of laughs and handwaves.

>dead pedo psyop just before ayy disclosure so the normie cattle don't believe they are real
You are so easy to manipulate.

>>42345365
>>42345395
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>>42348162
>Did they?
Read S.O.M. 1-01
Misrepresentation was fundamental to containment.
Meanwhile the average human has vague awareness of the presence of the beings with no thought towards the ability of an advanced technology to be capable of concealing the presence of the beings from within the mental awareness of the subject human populations.
If they can cross the distance between stars they can hack your brain.

Those who have strong emotional reaction to discussion about the beings often have their own direct personal experience just beneath their conscious awareness.
Those who have not recovered their ability to look directly at their own memories are quick to attack the character of those who have.
Disclosure is personal. One person at a time is learning to look directly at their own forgotten memories. The deceived collective doesn't acknowledge this.

>>42348320
>Those who have strong emotional reaction to discussion about the beings often have their own direct personal experience just beneath their conscious awareness.
>Those who have not recovered their ability to look directly at their own memories are quick to attack the character of those who have.
How many people do you estimate have had a contact experience they're repressing?

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>>42347871
its cuz he doesn't know that baby steps get cucked by aliens
basic inception strategy

>>42317146
So you’re just a head in the sand kinda guy eh?

>>42348381
Literally every single one without exception.
Not even joking.
I spent several years with nearly full conscious awareness during a majority of the interactions. I saw technology as clearly as I could manage to perceive it. The other humans would remain in a sleepwalking stupor during the routine visits. Only a few native American heritage individuals were able to remain conscious but they were immersed in a visual context that had something to do with their heritage while they were onboard. I was trying to deliberately develop conscious awareness during the activities. I volunteered to involve myself in anything they would allow or enable me to. I saw many aspects of their presence and the various focuses of their activities. They are doing many things here.. a very sophisticated response to our existence has been underway for many tens of thousands of years.
Keeping the average human subdued and unaware has been generally trivial. The occasional capable human has been able to see through the technology that is in use as concealment. It exists in many forms.. but most essentially in the form of interference with the cognitive imagery directly within the mind.

It's not just an estimate. The technology that has been deployed is doing exactly what that previous anon described; " they are watching you and your thoughts every moment of every day "
..in fact they are watching the quantum properties of the energetic fields that your decisions are impacting.
There is no one outside of this level of observation. At various stages of life development the beings are involved with delivering their guidance and instruction to the subconscious awareness of each individual human.

>>42348421
>.ai
Are you even trying

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>>42348731
Are you one of those retards that imagines everything posted by an intelligent human must have been written by ai?
What is worse? Depending on artificial intelligence in every instance where actual intelligence is required or ignoring every aspect of actual intelligence due to existence of artificial intelligence?

Go ahead and prompt your artificially intelligent crutch to do your thinking for you. No matter what you do, it's not artificial comprehension nor will it ever be artificial common sense... and it won't help you understand actual humans that are simply smarter than you are.

>>42348427
The funny thing about the first book on the subject by Streiber was that, for me, it served as a sort of milestone.. not due to its contents but due to the manner in which I was able to completely ignore it.
The book communion was on sale in a bookstore that a close friend was working at. I saw a copy of the book on the floor in the center of the aisle and without thinking I picked it up and put it on the shelf with the others like it.. all stacked at the endcap of the aisle.. and I did this by looking directly at the cover.. imagine drawing of the face of a being.. clearly written "a true story"
Not a flicker of conscious dawning of what I was looking at.. not a single conscious thought of recognition of what those words meant.

Picked it up and set it down and immediately forgot about it..

It was several years later when a person recommended that I read his next book "majestic" and this was under the clear assertion that the book majestic "is what it says it is "
On the back cover it says it is "truth that can only be told to the public as fiction"

It was while I was reading this book that a single scene describing a being passing through a window without opening it that my first fully conscious memory fully came into my conscious awareness.. and in that instant my perspective changed from hypothetical speculation to the confident certainty of direct personal experience.

It's there for you too. Just have to access that first memory.. that is, if you have been able to get conscious while in the presence of the beings at some point previously in your life. The memories are there in your mind.. pushed away from your conscious awareness. It's not an easy adjustment; the entire world you think exists has a massive blind spot.. once you see it you can't unsee it.

It's not a difficult subject; the unaware humans are simply wrong

>>42348441
So from abduction accounts we know the ayys have a major interest in interbreeding experiments. Villa boas is merely the most well known among thousands.
So if every human has had alien contact...

Does that mean every human has had any sex or been probed?

>>42350093
The beings are attending to the human presence in many ways.. linear biological progeny is only one tiny vector of this. Biological considerations in general are only a single narrow vector of the scope of what they are focusing on. The apparent attachment of consciousness to physical matter is far more dynamic than our limited perspective is enabling us to perceive.
As far as the concepts provided by controlled distributions of popular media, how many people are actually reporting recollection of the stereotypically ridiculed probing? How much do these people recall? From what I have seen of detailed in depth recollection it appears that the beings on rare occasion prepare a physical human body to be moved to a location that could be contaminated by the biological processes of the human body.. but this is rare as far as I know. Their vehicles are not vulnerable to contamination of any physical particulate material biological or otherwise. The controlled fields are able to collect literally every atom that is not deliberately onboard and move it out of the vehicle. Some locations apparently have less energy field manipulation ability.
As far as deliberate stimulation of human biological functions it's not a typical activity of the smaller beings that handle the majority of the interactions but it's well within the scope of the interests of the tall white beings that are overseeing the entire engagement with the human presence here on earth. Few people clearly remember the tall whites but it can become a guiding focus for a lifetime if they do.

All that being said, the efforts to attend to the human populations here result in the production of numerous offspring. There is no shortage of placements for these people. While I was remaining fully conscious i observed the creation, delivery by extraction from the biological mother, incubator, and early life of two offspring and on one occasion I was left with these two for a relatively casual visit.

In earth gravity in the mundane physics of my ordinary physical existence, i.e. in the absence of the field effects of their technology, the older female was playing with the effects of earth gravity as if it were a novelty to her. By linear time only about 4 months had passed since extraction but she looked about 4 and communicated as though she were college level. I had learned not to look directly at the beings because they would usually immediately get control over the cognitive imagery within my conscious awareness.. and I had dropped my guard about this while seeing only the two of them with a soft blue light illuminating the room from outside.. but in response to the question about how she was spending her days she did exactly what the other beings do by taking over the imagery within my mind to display her own visual memories of her daily activities.. it involved showing me how she would be returning to the massive platform that she was considering her main habitation.. a massive vehicle that was parked near sun.. basically a pillbox shaped row of massive rectangular clear areas that were capable of moving materials between solar systems.. with more than enough space to move every bit of the material of earth many times over. A beam that spanned between the two sides in the interior of one of the vast empty spaces held the facility she was attending school in. I was seeing this in the early 1990s prior to the movie mib that came out much later.. but the locker room scene at the end of one of those movies was reminiscent of the scene of her primary dormitory. I had the impression that she was not there much but was there more any other single location.

There were features that would look normal in any human environment.. something similar to short shag carpet and surfaces that appeared to be similar to wood grain. Seemed mostly open and spacious and although I didn't have a specific visual image i had a clear impression of a tall female being responsible for direct focused attention towards whatever she might need or want. I didn't return to being able to see from my own body so effectively the memory of the visit ended with the vision she delivered within my mind. The fact that I was able to be fully aware consciously during the visits created the otherwise unique opportunity for this visit to occur. I was often left uncertain about exactly what I was seeing when dealing with the communication formats of the beings.. functions similar to the use of avatar bodies in the movie avatar was one aspect of this.

>>42350093
I doubt that they are generating biological offspring from every single human but they are certainly examining the genetic characteristics of each human and the presence of other energetic aspects of our existence as pertains to continuation through multiple generations.

The beings are watching our presence beyond what we perceive as life and death.. our consciousness is not limited to our current physical material presence.

I saw a lot more than I can easily describe in a single thread.
It wasn't ' just dream ' visions.. to punctuate their presence they would frequently deliberately put their vehicles and equipment in view in various phases of operation. The most common form was just a quick flash of a moving vehicle.. often very near an airplane.. often when seen with other people present the other person might quickly comment on seeing a 'shooting star' or 'meteorite' and I would point out the angle of the thing they saw in relation to the clouds and horizon.. a shooting star doesn't change direction while closer than visible clouds.. I would often wonder if the pilots were able to see something outside their aircraft.. just a quick Nike checkmark shaped flash that seemed very close to them. There were many other forms of display that was just the most common

Sometimes it was obviously deliberate other times it seemed like I had caught them off guard.

Went on for years and I was thinking it would be like that for the rest of my life.. but I eventually returned to blocking themfrom my conscious awareness just like everyone else does.. Long story tho

>>42317093
Yes, Alien does exist. But that's not the common term for it. Aliens can be anything (fog, humanoid, ascended beings, energy...).
Yes, some alien races have visited earth but most of them are not interested. The aliens on earth are just conducting experiment and some are just watching us so we don't destroy ourself. There's even alien in this solar system.
>Correlation between God and Aliens
Some aliens used their advanced technology to pose as God in many universe so they can be worshiped by many which give them spiritual power. Some aliens even ascended into higher plane and used their power to mess with other alien races so they can be worshipped. Some aliens even have their own religion, spirits, demons and angels.

I tried to summarize what I know. If you have any question, just ask it. I'll try to respond later.

>>42318529
Jew don't want you to believe in Alien because it would make their 'God's chosen people" theory crumble.

>>42350093
What the beings are attending to is your human attachments to other humans.. and this is a primary aspect of one of their major areas of focused activities

The various focuses are different enough to seem completely different contexts to a human subject.. might be examining physiology like microfauna biological aspects of skin or other organs or tissues.. or looking at the placement of the communication implants.. they might relocate them or remove them for example. The low table is pretty cool.. operator can see through the body as translucent while on it

Other visits might be focused on no physical aspects of your presence.. only the full expression of your energetic form as it pertains to your attachment to other humans and the attachments of these other humans to you.
Distance from them is not a factor.. and some sessions involve multiple people who have each left their bodies elsewhere for the visit. The technology of the beings is seeing everything we think of as paranormal within the scope of measurable known existence and much more than we are even speculating to exist. It is absurd to imagine that primitive humans have correctly described any aspect of our existence in terms of the advanced technology of these beings. It is absurd to suggest that the nomenclature of primitive people is adequate in describing the presence of anything in context of this technology.

Direct observation puts you in a better position to evaluate than any attempt to guide humans by mindless repetitive rhetoric

>>42350328
They came up with that ploy 4400 years ago after their captive slaves escaped.. and they had hunted them down and killed them all.. for the second time in the preceding 800 years. They began creating religions as a harness to capture their goy cattle. It is currently the year 5786 on their calendar. >>42350387

>>42349337
>website is literally called .AI

>>42317093
>completely do not believe there is a government conspiracy covering up alien life and UFOs
you are actually retarded, your not a sensible intellectual, youre are actually retarded LMAO

>>42351190
>your not a sensible intellectual
YOURE*** damn it

>>42351190
>youre are actually retarded LMAO
why cant u delete posts on this retarded app? i meant you not youre

>>42351190
Yro'ue

Let it go.. lern yer lesson from it and move on.
Accountability in a zero fault tolerance environment has many lessons to teach.
Proofreading for quality control is one of the less painful ones.

>>42350780
Ok u win.. in .25 of the sources cited

Aliens dont exist you will get a fake Alien invasion

>>42351955
In your imagination of reality aliens are not present, due to your lack of conscience awareness of any present within your own imagination.
Direct personal experience can be ignored, but once you consciously have your own memory of your own direct personal experience then they are much more difficult to ignore.
Those who have strong emotional convictions often have the reality just barely beneath their subconscious awareness and they are assertive in their attempts to prevent the memory from surfacing.

Your short certain comment looks a lot like that may be your condition. So certain.. but rushed and hurried to be quick to avoid in depth engagement

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>>42317093
>don't believe in aliens
>just find them funny
>asking aliens to come visit me to come play games
>they never show up
fucking spaceRs

>>42317093
I've never really been into alien conspiracies. But I always wondered when it came to Lazars stories. The biggest thing I wonder about is exactly where the craft came from, if it came here to be given, simply crashed for some reason or abandoned forever ago. If it crashed forever ago, are we dealing with a dead civilizations super technology? Is it a gift? Is it some experiment of a species that discovered this technology early and is seeing how human civilization developes without supertech hax?

Are they psychic, or in possession of mind altering weapons? Then I hear some stupid shit about it being satans deception or other similar "you haven't imagined them hard enough" and thinking modern, genuinely understoof technology, is alien because THEY don't understand it schizo nonsense and I dip out.

>>42352144
Perception is not imagination.. but to the unaware cognitive perception is indistinguishable from imagination.
Direct observation of physical vehicles and other equipment is not a matter of either.. but people struggle with memory and imagination when they have observation of evidence they don't comprehend.
Within your own memories are images that you have dismissed from your conscious awareness as though they were 'only' imagination.
You have the opportunity to observe physical evidence of the presence of these beings on frequent occasion.
The concept of thinking harder, or imagining harder, is not adequate to address the reason these opportunities are being avoided. A closer examination of your own memories can be thought of as a function of imagination.. but if you are seriously studying the boundaries and accuracy of the imagery within your mind it's the opposite of creative imagining.
Within your own mind your previous treatment of your own personal observations is the key to becoming capable of observing the beings in the presence of your full conscious awareness. You have been successful at keeping yourself unaware. No one told me this.. I found it out the hard way. I already understand how it will be received. You think you have a complete view of your own existence. The reality that you imagine exists is an incomplete visualized model. It's an uncomfortable experience to discover how much you have been able to keep out of your conscious mind.. but it's not simply imagination that is in question here.

>>42352144
Collecting information requires skill.
Complete data sets can be evaluated. Incomplete data sets are inadequate for conclusive assessments to be finalized.
In many cases the door must remain open to receive additional data.. sometimes for decades.. sometimes indefinitely.
There were several vehicles at the location where Lazar was assigned. Several of the conditions you were speculating on applied to various individual vehicles in the collection.
If you are only going to apply a superficial amount of effort towards collecting the information that you will be drawing your evaluations upon, don't get your hopes up for your conclusions to be of any higher quality than the effort you put in.

Extraordinary chance and opportunity is available.. how determined are you to attain this? Across years I had several events of meeting unusual sources of information. At some point it becomes obvious that more than luck went into the equation. In the end no amount of theory or conceptualization will make any difference; you will either see the vehicles, beings, technology and equipment for yourself or you will not.

It's absolutely not a matter of theory for those of us who have