Every day I watch this board descend into more and more intense schizophrenia. Pic related. Even if you don’t want to buy into the technical historical shit in the Bible, Christian logic lays out things in a perfectly sound way. >the world and universe is fucked because of entropy, and entropy (the fall of the garden) causes all sin and suffering>you are a creature of the world but also possess a soul>your choices in a fallen world either conform to your material nature, or serve as a crucible to enhance your soulThat’s it. You can only be moral in an environment that isn’t set up to reward it - otherwise it doesn’t require inner strength. Every day you are beset by urges of the flesh - to lust after others, to hate, to surrender to base urges. The moral transformation is extremely painful but sustains a deep and lasting happiness — this is evidence that you have a soul. Stop wasting time anon, come back to the light while you still have time.
>>42317627Fuck the demiurge's game. Fuck his "rules". ESPECIALLY fuck his enforcers (you). I'm gonna RAPE and EAT this world.
>>42317627>and entropy (the fall of the garden) causes all sin and sufferingNice headcanon.>The moral transformation is extremely painfulYou're a big guy.
>>42317627>why is it so hard to be a braindead retard >all your problems are solved by believing in this magic bookYeah, sure, Jesus was real. He even made some good points. The problem is the ways he's been used to justify horrible things, and is continued to be used to justify horrible things. Pedophilia, murder, slavery, torture. Your little magic book has been used to justify all of those things, and therefore is not a perfect thing.
>>42317627Why doesn't God just fix entropy?Is He unwilling or unable?
>>42317661>notices force which lays out a hard limit to the life of the physical universe>clearly, that means the physical universe was meant to exist foreverfucking namefags, man.
>>42317627because you guys are really fucking annoying. back in the day you got converts more easily because you were allowed to kill people about it, now you LARPers go your entire lives without even stoning anyone, and every time I see one of you post I get driven farther away from the church.
>>42317666Your snide comment not only was really fucking annoying and unlikely to make someone want to be Christian, you also failed to answer the question. He asked why your god doesn't fix it. We know entropy is there; if your god is omnipotent, why won't he fix it?
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>>42317627Which is harder?1. Criminal career of sin, debauchery and police encounters.2. Just give in and be a good goi
OP can't answer the question. Apparently Christian logic doesn't lay things out in a very sound way.
>>42317684>assuming the intent was to proselytize>the answer is that clearly entropy was by design
>>42317746>I-I wasn't trying to proselytizeIf you're OP, you literally were>come back to the light while you still have timeIf not, why would you actively make people not want anything to do with your religion? Did that seem like the smart thing to do? >the answer is that clearly entropy was by design>clearlyThen why couldn't you just fucking say that like a normal person, instead of being a disordered redditor about it?
>>42317627You're just afraid to do research into the Bi-Bull.https://youtu.be/jLXxCI2jb8w?si=6rHuj_z6KT1zOD9rEven your post reeks of fear that there might be more to all of this.
>>42317765>if you're OPbig assumption on an anonymous imageboard. calling someone else a redditor while behaving like an entitled snob wanting to be spoonfed is peak irony.
>>42317778>wanting to be spoonfedJust say you can't properly defend your beliefs, dude. Put your ego aside.
>>42317778>entitled snob>>42317666You literally can't stop doing it either lmfao. And you're typing your next nasty remark into the box right now, blissfully unaware that you're proving my point, completely willing to keep being a rotten little bastard because somewhere along the way you forgot this was supposed to be about a guy who ordered you to "love thy neighbor" and got more focused on the part where you get to be a dickhead to people.>spoonfed>>42317661 just asked a question. Not hard.
>>42317788>>42317780Sheesh, nice dogpile you got there. Too bad idgaf about some christcucks' opinions of me. Can't handle a bit of snark to clearly disingenuous questions.
>>42317793what? You're the christcuck. Now I just think you're a bot or a gaslighting POS
>>42317797oh buddy, you've assumed so much about me. maybe take a look in the mirror.
>>42317805good job saging this shit thread! :D
>le entropy is la fatality except for muh religion waaaaaaaaa>stop wasting time anon>did you just assume I was OP(a faggot)>entitled snob>sheeshYou need to go back and not come back.
>>42317793Yeah like the other guy said. You've not only failed at whatever you set out to achieve, you've also demonstrated that you're not even good at the sophistry and mindgames associated with your religion.I do appreciate you abandoning your faith in the face of pressure though. Anyone who weakens the appearance of Abrahamic religion is a friend of mine.
>>42317823you still think I'm OP? reply to both this post and op, and I'll screenshot the lack of (You) for ya champ. this >>42317639 is me.
>>42317827Doesn't matter, you sound just like him and you'd make a cute gay couple together.
>>42317830awh, you're the one who's been riding me for a while now though.
>>42317827Why's that matter? You're an asshole just like he is.
>>42317832yes. I'm an asshole to assholes. However, you jumped in thinking you knew more than you do. That's on you, buddy.
>>42317831Did you just assume I was the guy you initially argued with?BIg assumption on an anonymous imageboard.
>>42317839all i assumed was that you were one of the two people already arguing with me in this thread.
>>42317839I think I got a little retarded and gay just posting this
>>42317841probably isn't >>42317839
>>42317840>ah you're the one>one of the twoPick one, be consistent and stop lying to yourself. Jebus will be proud fag.>>42317845
>>42317853do you understand the meaning of the word 'probably'? it indicates uncertainty. glad you realized you're being retarded and gay, though. I knew it was a tall order, so I didn't want to assume with certainty.
>>42317627Can't I just live my life without being fucked with by eternal, infinite beings? Seriously, gods are the 'niggers on the train carriage' of the universe. Go be gods somewhere else.
>>42317627I don't understand why the fall of the garden is linked to entropy. And even if entropy began at the fall of the garden , how is entropy causing sin ? (since the original sin happened in the garden of eden where according to you there was no entropy)
>>42317627>>42309850Come to our thread brother, it pisses off the spiraling demons of this board.
>>42317887>spiraling demonsyou mean people who aren't /pol/tards?
>>42317870This is how I feel. I just want to know that when I die, I will go somewhere peaceful or that there's an answer to this.
>>42317684Hi this is OP. Entropy needs to be around to give you a choice. God made you as an independent soul (Jesus says the Kingdom is within you) and by experiencing a mortal incarnate life, your spiritual strength is exercised when you act against the logic of the incarnates (to lust, to hate, to etc) and instead follow the devotion and love of Christ.
>>42317860What are you on about, there is like 50 unique daily posters here, no post ID and no poster count on this shitty board. It is probable that you're OP talking to himself this whole thread, especially considering the number of shitzos and bipolars here.
>>42317937it's a reasonable suspicion. i've said that i'm not OP, and I've even offered a solution which you won't seem to take. you seem content in your delusions, even after admitting your own retardation. I'm bored with you now.
>>42317627Because when they hear the Word Satan whispers to them to get them to turn away.
>>42317887they're child molesters looking for kids to troon out.>WHY DO YOU CARE IF I TALK TO YOUR 16 YEAR OLD CHILD?LOLOLOL the fucking audacity of trannies
>>42317634Based >>42317636For you
>>42317666So God put the cause of all suffering here intentionally? God wanted us to suffer?
>>42317904>Entropy needs to be around to give you a choice.Why can't God give us choice without suffering?Is He unwilling, or unable?
>>42321914>42321914Im pretty sure God does want us to suffer because if God did not want us to suffer we would not suffer, but the fact that we suffer, we suffer a lot, is a sign that God wants us to suffer. Now, why God wants us to suffer is a mystery. Maybe God is punishing us, maybe suffering makes we grow, I don't know, whatever, but the fact is that God wants us to suffer. No doubt about it.
>>42317627Because the fact that Earth was called Peter has been hidden.
>>42318006on the contrary, satan quotes scripture directly more than anyone else. His first words in the Bible are "Hath not the Lord said?"
>>42317627If you want to "just be a kikestian", then why are you even here, anon? There are lots of religious forums and online communities for various flavors of your religion, yet you insist on coming to schizo central to... complain about schizos.Really?>inb4 i come to le preachGo stroke your self-righteous holier-than-thou ego somewhere else pls.
>>42317684Real consciousness only exists in the presence of an unanswered hypothetical question. Any time you are not actively trying to answer a question your mind is idle or wandering. Gods questions have all been answered, They are tired and would like to go back to dreaming. whether the question answerers like it or not.
>>42321919turns out we are really bad at not procrastinating without a deadline. not by our or his fault
Sometimes I think religion was created for the sole purpose of keeping schizophrenics and other equally delusional people working within a socialable frame and that throughout most of human history most people didn't take that shit seriously.
>>42322115you aren't wrong that the majority can't take the concepts within religion seriously. you are also probably not wrong about it primarily being used to occupy certain types of people like schizoids. I'd bet that there is something about deep delusion that allows for insights that would normally be impossible.
>>42317627The very baseline of everything you laid out is easily agreed upon by many, if not most (minus the entropy shit, wtf? It's not even true for the universe, it isn't a closed system and entropy ending all things is a meme perpetuated by brainlets). The problem is as soon as anyone clarifies what everything in your post actually means and expounds on it then everyone gets different answers. Some more well thought out than others. Some people think their answers are more well thought out than baseline christianity. But the tenets in the OP aren't disagreed upon by basically any spirituality.
>>42322138I've just noticed throughout my life that the most religious type of people tend to either legitimately have schizophrenia or are on some severe level mentally disturbed.I'm not really condemning religion or mental people. If anything, if im right, it's an impressive social evolution that does its' job exceedingly well outside of certain points in our history where mass hysteria happened (usually caused by plague or a similar level catastrophe)
>>42322115I just really wish we had a /rel/ board on this vietnamese rice-picking forum, where all the religiotards could be safely contained./x/ should be fully reserved for creepypastas, occult stuff, conspiracy discussions, insider larp and schizo theories.
>>42322069>why God wants us to suffer is a mystery1 - Does it matter?2 - Putting a why again requires God to be limited and thus not worthy of the title. "Why" means God wants a result and is FORCED to follow a procedure to get it. The only "why" applicable to an omnipotent being is "because God wants it". If God has us suffering, the only "why" is because God wants us to suffer.>>42322110>we are really bad at not procrastinating without a deadlineWhy won't God fix this? Is He unwilling or unable?
>>42322154I have always been of the opinion that religion was a survival guide for the blind and an encyclopedia for those who can see. That's just the schizoid in me talking though.>>42322412>Why won't God fix this?it appears to be important that we don't look like we are doing what we are doing. Perhaps there is a punchline the devil can't see.
>>42317627Not a single thing that you described encapsulates the message of Lucifer and the reason he came down on earth.He spoke cryptically precisely because he didnt want people to understand him.He became to them what they wanted him to be, in turn he harvested their energy.
>>42322547The dragon doesn't get cast to Earth until the Second Coming, so what do you imply? That the Christ is here, and that you are too fickle to accept him? That you have no actual basis for your knowledge, but simply gestate on emotions? Or is this all coded terminology for you being a troon?
>>42317627Because abrahamic cuckery has no place in the modern world Shit was made up to control the masses of plebian arabs and semites in the past
>>42322581On some level, though you cannot deny the Platonic philosophy of the Christ and its positive influence on billions of people. The word of Christ specifically.
>>42322560You make quotations from the book of revelations by mentioning the Dragon(Satan, the God of this world) while ignoring the fact that Jesus proclaimed the title Lucifer for himselfSatan and Lucifer are two different entities and are enemiesWhereas Jesus and Lucifer are the same entity.If you grasp this foundation of Luciferianism, which is the only true form of Christianity, then you will have a rough time trying to explain why Jesus is going to destroy this world and fight a battle in the heavens.
>>42322609Dont grasp*
>>42322609Morning star is not what Lucifer means. You don't understand the theology you claim to. Thus, presumption two was the one. Presumption 3 is self-evident and needs no argumentation.
>>42317634Based
>>42322644Morning star is precisely what Lucifer means.Lucifer is a latin word and it translates to the morning star.KJV-only fanatics coined it as name of the devil because1) they hate Catholics who speak Latin2) they hate Jesus Christ and their reading comprehension of Isaiah 14 prevents them from recognizing their messiah, simply because a jew puts a negative connotation to it and they eat up the bible as the words of God, rather than having an inward spark that guides them to the truth
>>42322657>inward spark subtle
>>42322444>it appears to be importantIt looks very meaningless to me.And again, "important" is just another way to say God can't do it without suffering.He is not able.
>>42322657NTA>Morning star is precisely what Lucifer means.Not exactly. Lucifer literally means Lightbringer. But Lightbringer and Morning Star were both greco-roman epithets for Venus, that was also known as Aphrodite and Ishtar btw.Christcucks really should study Greek, Roman, Persian and Akkadian mythology more to better understand where their own (largely plagiarized) system came from.
>>42322758Appreciate the input but i already knew all of this, my point still stands.Even if we completely throw away the "morning star" term, Jesus also proclaimed to be the light-bearer in places such as John 8:12Besides, Jesus praised a Roman centurion whose belief system matched his, whereas the jews were completely in the dark the whole time, so yes, putting those "christians" to read some pagan allegories is not a bad idea
>>42317627Have you cut your balls of for Christ yet?
>>42322581>abrahamic cuckery
Jesus Christ is Lord.
