We don't live on a spinning ball. Wake the fuck up.
How is it possible that the star trails go ccw around polaris, cw around the south celestial pole and straight at the equator on a flat plane?
>>42328646It's just locking to your perception and showing you something that makes sense. When you're not looking it doesn't do that.
>>42328608The Sun is a spinning ball too ya know :p
>>42328654i'm afraid i will need a little more detail. what is locking to my perception? the stars? my perception of what? their movement? the stars are locking to my perception of their movement? where does that perception come from? is it not physical reality? what about their movement when i am not looking doesn't make sense? how do they move? if they do not go ccw around polaris, what else is occurring? are they not moving at all? or what?
>>42328693https://youtu.be/jDKfJROVHJEhttps://youtu.be/maBf0H3UNJIhttps://youtu.be/Jm7nBn7RxhUhttps://youtu.be/BEV2SAL8z5ghttps://youtu.be/Qse5Jc8jgSkhttps://youtu.be/zMAa5Ir7IHU
>>42328704i don't see how the high altitude balloons address any of my confusion. same for the lasers hitting the firmament. i admit the videos look nice but i am still confused about my question on the star trails. the bugs bunny and simpsons cartoons are also cool and funny but they are not of much help regarding my question. i hoped the azimuthal grid of vision video would address the question but that is also just a general overview of the concept. the last video is just a general talk about flat earth but doesn't specifically address my confusion. and i am still not sure what you meant by the locking of my perception, either. would it be possible to clarify? (preferably in written format)
If UFO's are real. Then they use the same physics earth use but they have mastered it. The discs are said to spin and the videos I have seen they move better than anything we have.
>>42328608I genuinely do not care "how" any of this works I just want it to stop being so fucking gay. Give me my fucking catgirl waifu already. I don't give a shit if she's riding my face on a flat earth, round earth, or holographic earth.
>>42328787The ultimate truth is that one can't get a girl either because he is physically unattractive or just has a very low npc level spirit energyWe live under a firmament so all of this obviously came from higher dimensionsGod / Gods have always had favorites. They allow some to be ugly or have no drive and be trapped in hell cycles while they let others live perfect lives never even having to resort to any kind of religion or occultism because their lives are just that good by default
>>42328608no
>>42328787>I just want it to stop being so fucking gay. Give me my fucking catgirl waifu already.I can give you a catrgirl waifu,. but she will insist on only having sex by pegging you.You still in?
>>42328608retard, retard, retard
>>42329339My ass is incredibly unsexy so if she's down she MUST love me for my personality. Im in.
you better get used to cyberpunk dystopias because you are in one.
>>42328704Yeah, the sun looks so close to the earth. Globetards think it's so fucking far away its' retarded.
>>42328608The real redpill is it’s actually immaterial if we live on a rotating sphere or on a flat earth plane. Our lives continue the same way in either case. However, both normies and schizoids really, REALLY want you to care.What I am not doing is creating a false equivalency. The schizoids are fighting back against the close minded normies. To a certain extent they don’t even need to be right. Simply stating that they don’t believe NASA causes the soulless NPC mind to short circuit.What I am doing, is telling you that YOU don’t need to care.
this, i think the artemis 2 mission was pretty fun because they just couldn't get any imagery of the spinning ball earth.
>>42328660No.
>>42329347coward, coward, coward.
https://x.com/truthache68/status/2049903573698555941
>>42328654Perspective doesn't change in what direction the stars are moving. I live in the northern hemisphere. It doesn't matter whether I look at Orion, Taurus, or Andromeda, all of the stars move counter-clockwise around the northern celestial pole.>>42331168>looks closeSo you can just eyeball the distance to objects by looking at them? The sun setting below the horizon is impossible on your "model" btw.
But the sun is not on the water literally, just so far out, just the refraction.
>>42332886this is brutal
>>42332902The sun sets below the horizon even on clear days, with very little to no refraction. There is hours upon hours of footage filmed with a solar filter showing this.>perspective Things don't disappear below the horizon the farther away they are. They only get smaller due to angular resolution.
>>42332886 "one day nothingness decided to explode and we wuz evolvin from monkeys on a ball and shiez"
>>42333000>Uhh, science doesn't make sense and is random because I don't understand it o algo.
>>42333034>we wuz monkeyz on a ball o algo
Why is there so much spastic talk about clockwise and counter clockwise stars?Every 2nd grader is taught that stars move east to west, even in public schools. The sky isn't the ground. Just as a protractor has a flat baseline and a curved half circle. That's how we get our angles to starsTo be a glober is to deny angular size change with distance and vertical drop with angular distance. It has been observed with both physical objects and celestials
>>42333336>Every 2nd grader is taught that stars move east to west, even in public schools.And how does this change the fact that they move in opposite directions depending on the hemisphere?>The sky isn't the ground. Just as a protractor has a flat baseline and a curved half circle. That's how we get our angles to starsAnd still, the movements of stars could never be replicated in a room with a dome above it. Constellations looking the same everywhere also wouldn't be the case.>Muh angular resolutionDoesn't make things disappear below the horizon.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=soTkEOsp3VU&pp=ygUWd29sZmllNjAyMCBwZXJzcGVjdGl2ZQ%3D%3D
>>42333336Also>picrelPretty bold to claim that shadows prove a flat earth since some people conducted an experiment which showed that they align closer to the globe model.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V03eF0bcYno
>>42333377And how does this change the fact that they move in opposite directions depending on the hemisphere?East to west is one cardinal direction not 2 non-cardinal directions>And still, the movements of stars could never be replicated in a room with a dome above it.It's not a dome it's a flat sky plane that appears as a dome due to perspectiveDo you actually think flat earthers believe in stars going over and under the ground?If so then why even have a conversation? It seems null and void if you don't want to accept the premise
>>42333387>Shadow elevation angle measurements is an "experiment"Thanks for the good laugh it made my day
>>42328608Technically speaking your mind is a mathematical construct perceiving mathematically a mathematical construct known as reality, so given relativity and no privileged reference frames, subjective mathematical essentially 3 dimensional reality is an illusion created by perception therefore the earth has no "real" shape. However when we're on it we perceive a never ending flat surface that surrounds us wherever we are. If we move high up above this surface we can only perceive a disk which morphs at the edges. If we "rotate" around this disk (hypothetically), then perceptually speaking we are still stationary relative to the flat disk it's just that its edges change shapes at a different rate depending on direction of rotation. There is no objective reference frame, there is no privileged omniscient reference frame (except perhaps in the Mind of God, if you believe in such a creature capable of creating such perfect mathematical constructs like our consciousness and the universe...) but as far as human perception goes, you are locked into subjectivity. You can imagine objectivity, but you can never perceive it or prove that it is "real" (whatever that word means.) Therefore, subjective idealism in a mathematical superstructure implies we are actually Flatlanders perceiving waveforms and our consciousness thanks to the miracles given to us by the Mind of God give us the power to perceive rainbows and sunsets and rainstorms and lightning and beautiful birds etc. Everything I just wrote is absolutely irrefutable therefore Earth is neither flat nor spherical. It is simply present in your current perception. (Unless you're on Europa or deep underground in a military bunker.) End of comment.
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>>42333466No, math is abstract and comes from the mindNature is not abstract, natural science and natural laws empirical. All the globetard shit is based on abstraction on top of abstraction. They use complicated maths as their vanguard for their religion, because they think they can get away with it. Just as you are using nonsense to deny the earth being flat
>>42333495None of these 4 sciences are actually sciences. Dumb liberal boomer meme 2/10
>>42333588Explain this to me dipshit.Polaris is close to the north celestial pole, which is a point in the sky that is a projection of the north pole onto the celestial sphere. All the stars appear to rotate around this point. There is also a south celestial pole which doesn't have a star conveniently close to it.Do you understand what I'm saying, motherfucker? Do you understand the basics of how the night sky works?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC71rQUQTRAThe higher your latitude, the higher the angular distance of Polaris in the night sky. If you are at 50 degrees latitude, Polaris is 50 degrees from the horizon. If you are at the north pole Polaris is directly overhead.The south celestial pole is only visible from the southern hemisphere. If you are on the equator the celestial poles are at the horizon.Do you understand, you stupid, arrogant little asshole?This only makes sense if Earth was a sphere. If it were flat the position of the celestial poles wouldn't change.This is 100% confirmation that Earth is a sphere. There's no getting around it.Take a vow of silence for the rest of your life to spare others from your stupidity.
yeah because it is a spinning Hatsune Miku who doesn't know that?
>>42328608It’s donut shaped.
>>42333732Cant be. The weather patterns dont make sense for a donut.
>>42333760It does if you look into it.
>>42333689An anon explained it here>>42333422Basically, the stars move in one direction. Thus, you don't need a globe to explain the (apparent) movements of stars.
>>42333777Checked but look into it how? Can you explain why the weather patterns dont fit a lack of tuft you would see on a torus?
>>42331628Space is a spinning ball too ya know :p
>>42333792You aren't understanding what I am talking about. I'm not talking about the direction the stars move, but the position of the celestial poles, which varies with latitude. Read it again. Check the youtube video.
>>42333792Not other anon, but here.Globe says these things are impossible, so if you can do it, you convince me of flat earth.
>>42333956They don't even understand the basic geometric mechanics of the celestial sphere, which a middle-school student can understand.
I'm a retard and even I can tell the earth is obviously flat
>>42333689>>42333900You act as if we didn't understand the point you were trying to make when you first invoked dual rotations of the stars.The stars have a split and begin to rotate the other way, it's called vertical drop with angular distance>>42333956>>42333977Gleason's map is a projection of the globe. All maps are flat to begin with. Don't know what the map of earth looks like. Do you know what is the equation to remove spherical excess from maps?
>>42334246>You act as if we didn't understand the point you were trying to make when you first invoked dual rotations of the stars.We are not the same anon. Either way both points basically boil down to two celestial poles existing.
>>42333336hi, i understand the confusion regarding the spastic talk about clockwise and counter clockwise stars. the reason for it is that i am struggling to understand how the flat earth model can account for it. regarding the movement of stars from east to west, i am not sure how that accounts for the ccw rotation around polaris and cw rotation around the south celestial pole. i am not sure how our way of getting angles to stars relates to the matter, either. same for the angular size change or vertical drop. i agree the stars are cool and behave in many interesting ways. but in particular, i was interested in their ccw vs cw rotations around the celestial poles in the flat earth model. i understand that they could rotate around polaris, but what about the south celestial pole? previously i was told that they lock to my perception and behave differently when i'm not looking, which i am still confused about. you are now also saying that stars move east to west, which I do not understand how it accounts for the star trails. i know its too spastic for your liking, but i would appreciate if you could explain it to me. i also saw the point in >>42334246 being made that "the stars have a split" which I am not sure what that means. but i assume it somehow explains the star trails, so I am interested in that. what exactly is splitting in the stars? the southern vs northern hemispheric stars? the stars with a greater vs lower vertical drop? at what point does the split of the stars occur? or what does it depend on? i am also still not sure if the split of the stars pertains to the star trails.
>>42331168They are mind controlled jewish golems, science is their religion now. Long gone is Jesus, Mary and fucking Christ, and now if the overlords were to decide the earth is a buttplug they will believe just that, all because they are holding on to the science for dear life. Go to /sci/ and see them salivating at all the globohomo promises and science "discoveries". It's a never ending tumor weeks ride until they gracefully expire. All you can do is laugh at them but the jannies will quickly censor any truths especially on /sci/ and /x/.
>Come to Paranormal/Conspiracy board>Tell everyone TPTB are telling everyone the truthAHAHAHAI bet you don't even know Nasa means "To decieve" in Hebrew
>>42328608>he thinks he liveswake up OP
>>42334480>webm relatedGuys, look! The sun is colliding with a crane!>muh Jesus o algoYour God is Jewish.Your prophet is Jewish.Your holy scripture is Jewish.You have no right to accuse anyone of being controlled by Jews.>>42334518The Hebrew model of the Earth is flat, and flat earthers proudly use it as a basis for their "model" as the overwhelming majority of them are creationist Christians from Third World countries. People knew the Earth was a globe millennia before NASA btw.
>>42334461>i also saw the point in >>42334246 # being made that "the stars have a split"I guess that around the equator the direction in which they move changes or something? Either way, that doesn't account forA. the existence of the south celestial poleB. the apparent movement of stars as seen from the equator https://m.youtube.com/shorts/_ohfzUmpVx8
>>42334549>People knew the Earth was a globeThe first Circumnavigation of the "globe" was done by nobility and clergy.Go back to watching Bill Nye "Trust the science" boy
>>42328704lmao every single one of you fucking retards always resorts to YouTube links or dumbfuck memes at some point. completely brain damaged cunts.
>Who might take advantage of the psychology of the idea you are on a spinning speck of dust and nothing you will ever do matters so you should probably do heroin and bang that goathmmm
>>42334580>The first Circumnavigation of the "globe" was done by nobility and clergy.Ah yes, because the average sailor on Magellan's journey was wealthy. And yes, the upper classes of medieval and early modern Europe did generally believe in the globe model... because they had access to education.
>>42334630>because they had access to education.Who controls education?
>>42334636At the time of Magellan's circumnavigation, the church.
>>42334651And Church was like the Governmental Scientific institutions of today. And people worship those figures as the Saints today.People merely traded one authoritarian structure they blindly trust for another.
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>>42334246Globe predicts things - can prove itFlkerfer predicts things - nothing they say can ever be proven.>>42333956It's a simple challenge anyone on Earth can do.Why wont you try it?
>>42334605But no one is saying that in this thread.God made a globular Earth, and to deny His creation is to blaspheme His greatness.
>>42334728>People merely traded one authoritarian structure they blindly trust for another.And now you have moved to blindly accepting youtube videos.Oh how the NPCs who blindly trust have fallen.
