If reality is predetermined by astrology, so what am I even doing? what is the purpose of doing anything or even thinking? Seriously, I need a serious answer to this, and don't tell me bullshit or half-assed copouts about some indeterminate percentage of freewill that you came up with. Look, I am not that smart or an astrolger, am a brainlet, but I've done a few experiments before, one of them is, prompting A.I chatbots to answer a few things based on a few specific sites (not the normie first page google ones or whatever) and well I got shocked to see that, if I just asked it, based on my chart of course, what happened to me 3 months ago, or 6 months ago, it'd answer accurately, and that's pretty scary or disappointing, but that's not the problem, because this was a few months ago and I've just begin to think more about this now, and so the question remains... if my life is predetermined by geometry or whatever astrology is, then what is the point? is this the final materialism? I mean, atheists are right but they were looking at the bullshit "determinated" factors or maps or whatever, and that it was for some random reason in the skies all along? it really makes everything even worse than it is, because it means that some people are just lucky, and some others are not, and that you will have to experience a terrible and catastrophic bad transit whether you want or not, and there's no salvation from this, and it becomes scarier if reincarnation is real.
When the fuck did x become r9k take your faggoty dribble over there
>>42331391The stars don’t control anything, they’re just always right. This is impossible to circumvent, by the way. Hope that helps!
>>42331402I am in the right board you stupid cunt, also I am looking for some serious thinkers. The fact astrology is real is a fatal blow to every single religion out there, but it's worse, people (even here) treat it as some kind of spiritual thing, but it does not seem like it to me, not at all, it is more like, the interface that tells us how exactly reality is predetermined, and that is honestly pathetic. If my existence is predetermined by whatever astrology is then what is the point? my struggle or suffering have been a joke, and what I thought were my conquests were just my body and environment being puppeteered by whatever astrology is, and that is pretty unnerving, there's no escape from this
it's a joke but more to the point it's helland I don't mean that as a metaphor, or an analogy or whatever...this universe is literally helleverything you said is true and there's no solutiont.figured out all that fated astrology shit 20+ years ago
>>42331391>>42331439okay, this is a misconceptionthe planetary deities are just archetypes, you might think of them as platonic forms, they are like universal principles. The planets themselves are just planets. They symbolize these forces, but they don't emit them. Jupiter the planet in outer space is not the source of "jupiterian energy" for example, it is just a symbolic representation of it.In the same sense, your natal chart and "destiny" is just a symbolic representation of a destiny that does not actually belong to you. It is a destiny that the archetypes predetermined for you, but if you have knowledge of the future you can change how you feel about it. You cannot change reality itself, but you can change how you represent it. If your mind lacks the imagination or the logical reasoning to construct a "way out" or a "solution" to the paradox of predestination, that is a "you" thing, not a flaw or fault in the grand design of reality itself.Seriously, stop and think about it. How narcissistic and delusional and psychotic do you have to be to think that your inability to see a solution to a problem is a fundamental issue with REALITY ITSELF instead of just a gap in your own reasoning process? Come on dude. Are you high or just angry or what the fuck here even?
>Misinterprets the meta>Now I have to explain to normies that the stars aren't bullying themThe stars are for witch's eyes only. Keep moving.
>>42331629>i'm not saying it's predetermined... but it's predeterminedwew lad>you can change how you represent itYou can't change shit, pseudo astrologer. That's what predetermined means.In the 22 years since I figured out the "grand design" I've tried to change or avoid my transits as they've come, using all the mystical knowledge, logic and prudence at my disposal, but they come true regardless, every single time. That's how this hell works. It has a plan and doesn't care about anyone's kooky assertions of free will. Indeed, the very act of trying to change your fate is fated as well. Maddeningly enough the attempt to do so often serves to fulfill the events of a transit, and future transits, directly and through the butterfly effect. So your so-called solution would just be playing right into things. Victim blame people and call them stupid but you're the fucking tard if you haven't noticed this stuff after however many years and are still peddling normie-tier astrology.
>>42331391Religion makes you follow it through what?>promise of an afterlifethey just hide the real afterlife. once we all unite with the source we will know peace... or start the universe over again. I don't really know, but understanding is that way forward to the unknown.
>>42331657>durr the stars aren't big meanieswhy do you think they call the "elite" stars?
>>42331391>predetermined That’s not how divination works. Divination is more like the Rorschach test. Each individual builds the story and astrology, tarot just describe the energy but not what the individual will do with it
>>42331391No. Thats the artificial narrative to keep you focused on the shadows. Read the Bible.
>>42333503OP, the tl;dr is there are evil forces you would never know exist that can manipulate this world and convince you of something that isnt true because they know how to fix things to make it seem as if it was. When Jesus warns us satan is the father of lies, He isn't joking. He is disgustingly deceptive. In theory, this is the same exact thing happening on earth to the general public. A fake worldview crafted through things like social media, "officials" and news. Jesus is the way out of the "fake world" and brings you into reality. And when He grants you the gift of sight, you get to see just how bad things are on earth. Its very sad seeing so many people be taken advantage of by those theyve been convinced they could trust. Its so fucked up.
>>42333503The bible is full of astrology
exist as an observer with full knowledgestarts to question souls and laugh at them for being stupid and how easy the answer isget dragged down into itregret being an arrogant newbornbasic punishment for knowing the answer surrounded by those who only care about this world versus those that care about the real existenceyou could have a very happy community of people living in harmony but in due time another tribe will come and ruin your paradise if they don't do it someone from within will be born greedy enough to fuck up everything while the parents will love it enough to stand by and do nothing even protecting that behaviorinfinity with seed of life aint no joke we are inside the cube because if you circle the cube only a small percent will be outside of the cubeso yes geometry is fucking us on a star levelif you try to change yourself aliens come and abduct you studying the inner numbers that allowed you to be outside of the cubei mad at god for putting me here without being ready and mad at devil for being an assholethere is just no winning here only a draw
I know. I've come to similar conclusions and with only a few solutions.>Look into Astrocartography and relocation charts, find somewhere in the world that is tolerable for you and is a more favourable chart and pray that it works >Dedicate to either lhp or rhp, neither really matter>Try and forget about it all, drop the paranormal completely and do what you can with your life and copes
>>42331592this hell sin is separationwhen they say hell is other people they aren't joking or being cute we were once god
>>42333679basedthat is why monasteries occupy prime spots
>>42331391There is no purpose, you just experience the life that has been determined for you. We are all inhabited by an emanation from God living one of the many versions of existence. Sorry mate.
>>42333503The ENTIRE Bi-Bull is astrologically coded. THIS is why I say Christians choose to be ignorant. https://youtu.be/jLXxCI2jb8w?si=bNv2vdqXkxcIT6y-https://cogniarchae.com/2020/02/15/ancient-astronomy-from-vedas-and-egypt-to-christianity/
>>42333529Nope, refer to here >>42333948You guys keep falling for mythological stories because they give you comfort. Most people want comfort over truth.
Hey what does this all mean then with our brains and shit, is it all just biological determinism or whatever? Like mentally ill is just a sign of no free will right?
>>42333948You are the ignorant. Christianism took all of the pagan cultural heritage of the western world into one religion. It was necessary to unify the west into the civilization that conquered the world and took humanity to its highest point of social evolution. The decay of christianism coincides with the fall of the west and the rise of the east.
read into precognition. if you know the future, you can change it
>>42334023if it was that easy everyone would be doing itreality enforces cooperation and punishes solitude
>>42331391Fatalism only applies to hylics. Pneumatics and psychics are free to go against fate. Thats literally what being a wizard means. Its a useful tool to inform you what the machine actors will do. But never think of yourself in those terms
>>42331391>If reality is predetermined by astrology, so what am I even doing?Its not though. Look up a guy who wrote a book called "Jewish Astrology" and watch a free lecture about his book on youtube. Why pray to the stars, when you can pray to the Creator of the stars, who has revealed laws to follow in scripture that lead to reward and punishment. Some things in life are fated, but with religion and spiritual methods you can transcend the stars. For example if you are Hindu and notice you have a bad moon that caused emotional problems and family troubles, you can chant a moon mantra for a few hundred hours and then have an amazing transformation of your emotional control and happiness - but some things outside of your control like family situations might not be able to change much. A Jew would focus on observing Biblical laws, with the mindset that every good deed has a reward. Charity and daily scripture study are considered amongst the most powerful remedies. For a Christian going to mass go create a wonderful shield of protection from suffering, among other things. Astrology should be viewed not as a fatalistic punishment, but as a gift from God that provides you the circumstances for the optimal development of your soul. The hard things you are experiencing are there because they are lessons you have to master still.
>>42331438>The stars don’t control anything, they’re just always rightDid you just contradict yourself? If the stars are an axiom then they DO control something, right?
i am a decades long lurker, seldom poster. all i can say is this anon, i have attempted a 'dimensional jump' multiple times since 2013. each time it worked, granted what i desired, but at the cost of something that i did not consciously offer (relationships)first time i received gainful longterm employmentsecond time i received $200,000the third time, i recognized what the costs were and made my intentions carefullyi'll report back
>>42331893thanks for breaking your post up so I didn't have to read anything past the first fucking stupid sentence, fucking retardcope
