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Normies love their Tropical stuff, but from investigating things is there is a true Astrological system? Why divide the sky into 12 equal sections when the constellations are of different sizes? Why not include Ophiuchus? What about the Lunar Calendar?
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>>42332749
I get confused here too. Did not the gregorian calendar (1500) change it to 12 from 13. Then where are the greek sources. Astrology is an ancient science so why is it when you research that its only 12, even in older texts
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>>42332749
Most modern astrological systems include those. By modern, I mean the old hermetic and esoteric systems from the late medieval early reneissance.
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>>42332764
If you measure the Calendar against the old texts. Late May should be the true New Year. The Calendar should be 13 months of 28 days each.

Why is December the end of the year when decem/decade means ten?
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>>42332777
Bro you use linix?
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>>42332787
I use everything. Astrolog works best on Linux. I also have Windows, BSD, Solaris, and OS machines lying around.
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>>42332771
Talking to AI about it:
>Vedic Jyotish traditionally uses 27 Nakshatras (lunar mansions) for calculations, but includes a 28th, intercalary Nakshatra called Abhijit for timing auspicious events.
>While the 27-star system is standard for natal astrology, the 28-star system reflects the Moon's actual sidereal cycle of ~27.69 days and is frequently used in Muhurta (electional astrology) to find the best time for activities.
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>>42332749
I know it's probably the Barnum effect but I found that the tropical is more applicable to me than sidereal.
Sidereal puts all my placements that are in Gemini into Taurus instead and I never related much to earth placements. (I admire them)
My family has a lot of fixed energy (in tropical) and my mutable bullshit scares them so I think maybe all systems are applicable in certain contexts.
There's probably someone out there who can find an accurate reading in all astrology systems because of the nature of it, but as a bumfuck westerner I found that tropical placements have suited me and the people in my life more so than sidereal.
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>>42333023
Tropical was made to be accurate dor europeans. And it is. I don't know about other places.
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>>42332749
Both accurate in different ways, that’s because Vedic and western both emphasise different things so it works out. Our western society is very individualistic, old astrology was more fatalistic, in the 15th century Ficino was already emphasising free will through astrology and the idea that astrology just determines likely outcomes and potential instead of hard-coded fate (where in ancient times you could not avoid your astrological destiny, hence early Christian texts warned you not to even look at your astrological chart to not bind you to fate and take away your free will). The shift in the stars reflect the shifts in our society, western astrology suits the western mind more. Our placements here are all about us as individuals, and how we experience life. Vedic emphasises the will of the stars, it’s a step-back usually into the 12th house of each of our placements because it emphasises duty and destiny over individuality. Western astrology I think is what is happening, Vedic is why, but Vedic is very good at predicting specific events but reading sidereal as your personality feels silly and more inaccurate compared to western. It seems to me that right now humanity is supposed to take a step back and balance ourselves out, remembering what we lost in this current journey to find ourselves. I can confirm Vedic/sidereal moon mansions and moon signs are quite accurate descriptions of your personality, different to western because moon is more important than your sun in terms of your personality, but Arabic moon mansions with tropical moon signs predict your life better

Scorpio risings find themselves in outrageous situations that cause them damages in their relationships with people around them through their stubborn, decisive and intensely emotional nature. Vedic Libra emphasis that all that Scorpio catastrophic, decisive, destructive energy is actually going towards the goal of learning to establish harmony etc. that’s the way I view it.
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>>42332781
The new year is the Spring equinox.
>January is 11
>February is 12
>March is 1
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>>42332749
> Why not include Ophiuchus?
They always knew about it and decided to not include it, though it is true Libra was a later inclusion in the zodiac it has settled into the 12 for a reason (it was originally like 18 but the Babylonians cut it down). If Ophiuchus became widely used then maybe we can determine that the collective unconscious has willed its relevance and thus its influence is very real, but Ophiuchus is a forced meme that clashes with the intricate design of the entire zodiac wheel and its symmetry so it really doesn’t work - no one wants to include Ophiuchus because any relevance and influence it has is very weak.

Its only claim to relevance is the fact that it is used in the modern scientific zodiac to track where are the locations of planets in relation to the earth, and it was included because modern science no longer believes in astrology or sees it as relevant. We can see Ophiuchus as becoming prominent in the collective unconscious now because it’s a symbol that represents the entirety of humanity or something, a da’at of the zodiac which is a symbol to meditate on instead of anything with any astrological influence, at the most it implies a more healing/renewing tone to late Scorpio and early Sagittarius and it emphasises these two signs as important in relation to its symbology (the Scorpions stinger and the Sagittarius’ bow were traditionally depicted as aiming for the same place) but those two signs are still ruled by Pluto/mars and Jupiter not fucking Chiron which is an asteroid not a planet (which is emphasised because it’s an extremely noticeable fucking son of bitch wherever it is, but it doesn’t rule over an abstract central aspect of reality and being like a planet - just a specific niche concept that is very specific to humanity or even just something cultures of humanity as an asteroid would)
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>>42334253
A good rule of thumb for how much power or relevance a concept in astrology has is by seeing how many people take it seriously, astrology is a science of the collective unconscious more than anything to do with the stars themselves



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