Stop being afraid of life. Imagine intrusive thoughts being messages from the unconscious about things youre lacking. I.e. you don't stand up for yourself, so the unconscious sends you a message that's filtered through the conscious-mind as a violent image of you hurting someone you care about.

I had severe OCD for most of my life and it reached a crescendo in my early 20s before just going away. It's also highly likely that you're an introspective narcissist.

>>42335639
most of my OCD thoughts are about bodily mutilation or diseases inflicted on me or my loved ones.

i don't know what that means.

Past life regression to find the source of the ocd. You definitely have regrets about something that happened and it turned into ocd.

>>42335608
>>42335639
God likes to manufacture the most retarded excuses imaginable to abuse me through his retarded trnany minions and he thinks repeating his immoral behavior from the past is some kind of moral argument, just today he was insinuating "snickers are french and therefore if you eat snickers I will castrate you" through my dad because in the past he threatened to have my cousin beat me unconscious and castrate me for eating snickers, he thinks he can justify this by saying "snickers are french", and now years later he thinks repeating his threats and retarded delusions from the past is somehow a moral argument or justification for abusing me in general.

When I think about killing my dad for that its not an "intrusive thought", its a rational, highly reasonable reaction to his behavior, I should kill him for saying what he said, I should kill him for his behavior, I don't feel bad or guilty for wanting to kill my dad I feel weak and powerless for not killing him despite his extremely evil behavior towards me and the profound justifiably of killing him for his behavior towards me, he deserves to die, he deserves to be in pain and agony and so does my cousin, not killing them for their behavior towards me if weakness and shameful on my part, they are retarded evil sadists controlled by a retarded evil tranny God and its not wrong for me to want to kill them, even trying to frame it as an "intrusive thought" demonstrates how delusional that God is for believing that he can do profoundly evil things to me then act like my negative reactions to his evil is somehow wrong on my part

>>42335608
Use the Silva Method. Look for Jose Silva Method on YouTube.

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>>42335608
i have severe ocd and it makes me notice patterns and things that cause me bad luck. ive posted about it before.

a few days ago at work i did one of the things that i think causes me bad luck, drinking green tea that was steeped longer or with more heat than in my teapot. i used to prepare green tea incorrectly by steeping it way too long (20 minutes) and pouring the water right when it started boiling instead of letting it cool slightly first. i did this for months and a lot of horrible circumstances i was going through were during that time.
that day at work some bad things that never happened before, happened. including some of the smartphones at my job not working which caused even more problems for me, which has not happened in a long time.

no one ever believes me about this but i dont care since its a thread about ocd. other things that caused me bad luck in the past were listening to certain songs or having certain images as my phone wallpaper. also reblogging certain images on tumblr, or text posts that said something i agree with, which later seemed to result in something bad happening to me that "tested" me about the text post. that also happened when i would WRITE a text post.

this reddit post is the only other thing Ive been able to find that matches my experience. its such a fucking nightmare trying to understand this because everyone in online ocd communities or in clinical treatment doesnt think this is even possible and think that spiritual beliefs aside from mainstream religion are insane. https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/s/hOvqUmR9G8
this is even more bizzarre when you go to that persons profile, they post in some community called "objectum_sfw" where people are emotionally or sexually attracted to objects. the person who wrote that post even posted a photo of themselves INSIDE OF A BALER MACHINE, this huge metal machine in the back receiving/unloading area at retail jobs that crushes all of the cardboard boxes.

>>42335796
This anon is a retarded tranny who rapes my mind every second of every day and thinks he can justify it by calling my thoughts "posts" because he's a retarded lying tranny pig nigger. It's like raping someone in real life and they're like "stop raping me go away" and then the rapist being like "THAT'S POSTING NOW MY RAPE IS JUSTIFIED". This anon is a delusional tranny making this post because he has been threatening to kill me this year and if he doesn't kill me he will probably make my life more hellish so I have just been telling myself in my mind "I will die soon" etc to cope with the fact that I will likely die soon and try to convince myself not to worry about the future because I'll probably be dead then the retarded tranny faggot nigger anon rapes my mind and pretends that me thinking about how he intends to kill me gives him an excuse to kill me when he already intends to anyway because he's a delusional lying tranny nigger. If "this anon ever shutting the fuck up" was real I would have millions of dollars and be living in peace instead of living in poverty being dominated and abused by sadists, This anon is just a retarded sadistic tranny who intends to abuse me forever and he tries to manufacture the most retarded excuses imaginable for it because he's retarded and in this case he's trying to use me mentally coping with the fact that he intends to kill me as his excuse to kill me because he's a retarded tranny nigger

>>42338940
i also have the magical thinking type of OCD. i am frustrated because most of the talk about OCD online is about people who have mild cases, like compulsive hand washing or checking on their door etc... and while that's how mine started, it had evolved into thinking deleting a file from my computer will cause me to get cancer 10 years from now.

and it's especially annoying when bad shit actually happen when you don't do the rituals. a few years ago i saw one of those photos people post on 4chan that go like "reply for x years of good luck, ignore for x years of bad luck", i tried to do ERP as it's the treatment shilled by all therapists and tried to overcome the urge to reply to that post and kept scrolling, minutes later i got the first symptoms of my chronic crippling health condition. things got way worse since then.

>>42335608
I just focus on God. Doing that has kept away all gayness from my life.

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>>42339017
>and it's especially annoying when bad shit actually happen when you don't do the rituals
ive been doing really bad today because something similar happened this morning. :')
>i tried to do ERP as it's the treatment shilled by all therapists and tried to overcome the urge to reply to that post and kept scrolling, minutes later i got the first symptoms of my chronic crippling health condition. things got way worse since then.
im sorry that this happened to you. im in a similar boat. i even lost a friend i made when i did ERP and the bad things i was scared of still happened but i also ended up making a friend, but i eventually started getting scared and not challenging my ocd anymore and then that friend ghosted me and i got signs that indicated that she may have killed herself, and I've seen her in dreams since then but we didnt speak, but i have no idea if shes actually alive or not.
have you seen the schizophrenia thread thats up? >>42326523
the OP described exactly what we also are going through.
>What do you make of the stuff that are actually real and that there's no explanation for? For instance the voices tell you things that are going to happen, or what someone is about to say or do, then it happens. Stuff that isn't actually a mental illness but is actually legitimate. Stuff that in no way can be fake.
i think those of us with disorders like this are actually somehow perceiving parts of reality that people without them are. someone in that thread said they believe they are communicating with spiritual entities that are not bound by space time, which means that such entities could legitimately be telling someone the future, but they could also be doing it either to assist someone or take advantage of them.
reality is so frightening honestly, at least from the human perspective. i wonder how people in ancient civilizations like China learned how to actually ascend to higher realms and become gods. mainly only Taoism talks about it.

>>42339070
>that people without them aren't*.

>>42339070
thank you anon. will check the schizo thread.
i don't think i have schizophrenia but i had weird psychotic phase in my life a few years ago where i was convinced my house had recording devices installed somewhere. and i spent a long time searching for them every time i entered a room. i also believed my phone had spyware on it.
then it actually started acting weirdly, the location services indicator kept showing up even when location services was turned off, my banking app stopped showing up on the play store and when accessed through the web it would tell me it wasn't available for my version of android. although it would show up in my mom's phone which had an older version. this only happens when the device is rooted, usually banking apps don't work on rooted devices. which made me more paranoid. then random person i don't know messaged me once on telegram and told me he was had access to my phone, but later on apparently it was just a prank and the guy turned out to be someone who knows someone i know irl.

this sort of went away. but it was replaced with extremely bad luck immediately after. we got kicked out of our house, and i got chronic health conditions.

so i turned to God and started praying. and every time I prayed things would get worse later. sometimes within minutes or the next day. one time i prayed to God and next day me and my entire family passed out and almost died from CO poisoning.

i fucking hate this life. worst timeline possible since 2019. that was the first year this bad luck started. it started with my dad getting a heart attack. then it was bad luck after bad luck.

>>42335608
Shes so hiiigh
High above me
Dark and lovely
Shes so hiiiigh
Just like the Patra
or like a Jonah Varkavark

>>42339130
>worst timeline possible since 2019. that was the first year this bad luck started.
i grew up in a Hindu cult. they worship Krishna. i ended up converting to Buddhism at 18 but they believe Buddha was an avatar of Krishna. then when i left Buddhism because i began to disagree with fundamental beliefs of the religion, i was no longer a Hindu or a Buddhist, and my life completely fell apart and i got bad luck out of nowhere. because of this i think the god they worship destroyed my life as revenge for not worshipping him anymore.

it started with my father becoming abusive again after he had behaved mostly normally for a few years. then we got bedbugs from our neighbors. we tried really hard and did a lot to try to get rid of them in the beginning but my abusive father started spreading them throughout the house on purpose and even locked contaminated mattresses and stuff in his room in the house, which he replaced with an actual lock that requires a key. he has always had symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia and is genuinely a particularly evil person, like the protagonist of the visual novel "Sayonara wo Oshiete". it's been 3 years and we still have bedbugs. one time also i bought a pair of jean shorts that had a leather patch on them and i felt bad for it because cows are sacred in Hinduism, so i prayed to Krishna saying i would remove the leather part before i wore them next. a few days or weeks passed and i ended up putting them on without removing the leather because i was tired after showering and went to sleep once and immediately i had a horrific vivid nightmare. i was in a dark square tunnel being propelled forward and i had the most potent sense of darkness, terror, and "disturbance" i have ever felt. i called the name of a Chinese goddess (who i later found out was apparently actually originally a Buddhist goddess) and that part of the dream ended immediately, but then i immediately had another dream where i was seeing myself having [1/2]

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>>42339164
[2/2] having sex with my ex and i immediately involuntarily ejaculated and when i woke up there was a stain on my pants that made me have to change them.
because of that experience i think Krishna is a partially evil entity.
im also transgender and i prayed to him for help transitioning and passing (as a woman) in exchange for being his lover in the afterlife and i think the day after that i constantly felt "groggy" and "off" and had less physical energy than before, and i stopped being able to remember my dreams almost completely. before that i had vivid dreams that i remembered mostly if not entirely, nearly every single night, since i was a kid.

now i usually dont remember any of the dreams but if i hear a word or remember a "thing" while awake that is related to something that happened in the dream, then i suddenly remember only that fragment of the dream, but still not the entire dream. i only remember some parts of my dreams now.

I heard someone on here say that Greeks or Romans said humans shouldnt interact with gods because they are not entirely good or evil and see humans as playthings.

>>42339173
you werent supposed to full troon out. you failed the rebis.

>>42339164
>>42339173
Is what they say about those ejaculatory hindu cults all true?

>>42339194
i don't understand what you're saying
>>42339195
no, Hinduism is either "impersonalist" where the goal is to become one with everything and stop reincarnating or something or "personalist" where its basically a slave and master relationship with one of the deities from their pantheon. in the particular cult i grew up in their belief is that you basically turn your entire existence into being a bitcoin miner or a mirror for Krishna. he is the only enjoyer and everyone and everything else is the object of enjoyment. basically spiritual/metaphysical cuckolding. or literally medieval-level servant worship. they also believe that victims deserve their abuse because its their "karma". also their gods are real and can mess your life up, which is what i think happened to me. a tantric guru apparently said Krishna might cause you lots of misfortune to make you abandon material things and become completely dependent on him. and they said that another Indian goddess can be dangerous to worship because she is known for making her devotees ugly and doesnt like them having romantic relationships.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exHareKrishna/s/93Og3Z6ZO7
reality is so difficult, at least as a human. i really wonder how ancient Taoists figured out how to actually become gods.

>>42339206
I take it this is in America and you're not indian at all. Did they make you worship the 'langa' aka Penis of Krishna?

>>42339208
no, and i think thats a rumor and not actually the purpose of that object.

>>42339164
>>42339173
i can relate. i also notice bad things happen when i do simple things that defy God. or maybe i am looking for anything to justify the bad luck. it wouldn't make sense. people commit more terrifying "sins" and get away with it. it wouldn't make sense that God would go after me in particular for something benign even by his standards.

anyway i wish you good luck cascaanon.

i hope things get better for both of us.

>>42339206
do you think these Gods in polytheistic traditions are what other religions deem as demons?

i am not familiar with Hinduism but from what i have heard the supreme God is something like pure existence or consciousness itself. the common denominator and point of reference and ground for everything that exists. and everything else is just an oscillation of it.
most polytheistic traditions do believe in this supreme God. they just construct lower deities that they deem closer to whatever their lives directly depend on. so rather than praying to the supreme common denominator or ground of everything that exists, they would pray to the common denominator or ground of everything agriculture related, war related, or love related...etc...

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>>42339217
>anyway i wish you good luck cascaanon.

i hope things get better for both of us.

hahaha thanks. same here.

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>>42339257
>do you think these Gods in polytheistic traditions are what other religions deem as demons?
maybe. the feeling i had in that dream was like how i felt when i discovered the visual novel "Sayonara wo Oshiete" but multiplied. so i think hes somewhat evil or dark, if that was really him who caused that dream. someone on here said "when it comes to Dravidian religions who knows what's really being worshipped."
apparently Zoroastrians considered devas "gods who are only capable of destruction". but apparently Krishna was actually described as an Asura in the Rig Veda or particular Hindu scriptures.

>the supreme God is something like pure existence or consciousness itself
that's just what some traditions, usually the "impersonalist" ones say. apparently sat-chit-ananda means "existence-consciousness-bliss". i heard that ISKCON, the cult i grew up in, intentionally mistranslates the scriptures. apparently they say sat-chit-ananda just means "soul".

>they would pray to the common denominator or ground of everything agriculture related, war related, or love related...etc...
idk. from my experience it is not that they believe there is a "universal common denominator" or "force" that is the source of everything but they literally believe the particular deity they worship depending on which specific tradition it is is the center of reality itself. someone on here put it really well, Hinduism is actually a "patchwork of fundamentalist cults".

>>42339257
>>42339294
>do you think these Gods in polytheistic traditions are what other religions deem as demons?
and no, i just was talking about the experience i had regarding Krishna.

>>42339257
>>42339319
i also wanted to add that i learned from a Chinese drama that you can pray to the gods if you need help. there was a scene where they were talking about someone who needed help and said something like
"But what can a weak person do?"
"Pray to the gods."
Someone on this board actually also said that the Archangels are actually gods and that Erlang Shen can be invoked to subdue and get rid of demons.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39800859/#q39831551

>>42339294
thanks for the answer.

i personally still find myself attracted to the idea of a single all powerful God who needs no mediators to worship him. he has a direct connection with even the lowliest of his creation, he is above everything that you can never be better or good enough for him, all differences are like nothing to him, it's like the difference between 1 and 1 million in front of infinity.

but that's just me.

>>42339017
I replied to you. I replied to your post.

>>42339346
I believe this but it's the Mother

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>>42339346
in my opinion a god that allowed evil and suffering to exist is evil. seeing someone like my father whose such a fucking loser and so evil yet so cowardly somehow gain power over 2 people who did absolutely nothing to him and torture them, me being one of them, is infuriating. i despise evil. i hate that evil and suffering exist. i think reality is basically an anarchic pvp game that I'm forced to play. my life feels like being forced to play "Cat Mario" but i cant get up and leave the computer or drink or eat and have to play for 24 hours straight without breaks.

I had severe ocd for 4 years, the type that would compel me to check water faucets, light switches, and the stove for an hour straight before I felt like it was safe to leave the house, or go to bed. I've completely cured it, and have remained cured for the last 2 years. You need to release trauma and fear from your subconscious. If you can do this, the ocd disappears. How? It's relatively simple. When you meditate/pray, you should notice that at some point afterwards, you'll feel an intense fear/anxiety rise up. This is the key. When this happen, instead of trying to fix/treat the fear, or suppress it, you need to just sit there, feel it fully, and allow it to flow. After a certain amount of time, it could be minutes, could be hours in rare cases, you'll notice that the fear has dissipated and you'll feel neutral, you'll feel better.
Why is this? Well, it's my observation that meditation/prayer kickstarts the process of detaching deeply embedded fears/trauma from the subconscious. And what happens when those fears detach is that they float to the surface of your perception in your nervous system, and then leave out through your body. As long as you allow these fearful feelings to just leave you without disturbing them, they'll be removed from your subconscious, and you'll be fundamentally changed as a person.
However, this isn't a one and done process. It will have to be done over and over, as you cleanse your subconscious bit by bit, and keep note that it can be a very uncomfortable process. It took me about 6 months for the ocd to fully dissipate away, and another year to basically eliminate all anxiety in general. I hope this helps. It's basically the secret to transforming your consciousness and actually changing yourself. Feel free to ask any questions if you need me to clarify anything.

>>42335608
beat your meat

>>42339384
thank you

>>42339384
do you think this can be done by just doing erp all the time? even if it's bizarre and seemingly real like the reddit post in >>42338940?

>>42335608
lobotomy

>>42335608
drinking lean like it's still the 2010s

>>42335639
Good post. "Recodifying" and "Acknowledging" the intrusive loops really is the only thing that began the cessation of my OCD ruminations. I spent some 6 to 10 hours everyday for 4 years in a particularly bad flare up, and struggled lifelong. Wishing all well.

>>42335608
parasite and toxin cleanse

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I have my OCD baked into me at the spiritual level (look at my Mercury placement)

>>42343125
Your worst placements are actually the leo ones. Mars, venus and lilith. They make you into a massive attention whore. You have been spamming this chart everywhere.

>>42335639
I can't say for everybody but this tracks for me

I started having obsessive imagery of spraying my blood on my enemies and it was caused by... Feeling like there was an unseen internal hurt

>>42339017
I replied to you. I replied to your post.

>>42343518
why did you post this twice? i don't know which one of the anons you are. but thanks.

>>42339384

Congratulations on overcoming and thanks for sharing with us. Seems like very sound advice. It's taken me way too long to realize that the root of almost every negative condition is fear and shame. They're intertwined. Shame is just the fear that you're intrinsically defective and no one could ever desire you. There's fear of abandonment in that as well, which is a very primal fear from your infancy when you were physically dependent on everyone else.

John 4:18 "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love"

You won't be punished, frens. No one can punish you except yourself, and too many of us do it all too often. Forgive yourselves, forgive others, and forgive the world.

>>42343189
Hide the post then if you don't wanna see it faggot. I'll post whatever the fuck I want

I'm not going to wade through this psycho babble in other responses but what worked for me was... uh.... hm....
I remember feeling like I needed to control my thoughts or they would control me. To be honest I just let them control me nowadays. Chasing perfection just gets in the way. Also don't smoke (too much) weed and get plenty of sleep. A lot of it for me was just my working memory getting impaired and making me unable to follow lines of reasoning and being hyper aware of my inability to do so. You can actually recreate this process in an LLM
Just know it is totally doable. Sometimes the only solution is to not think. Like I realize now that thinking after eating or when other variables align cause my stomach to act weird. This mind-body connection freaked me out when I was younger and was one of my triggers.
The most uncomfortable part of OCD is the tension. Always be relaxed. Don't give in to thoughts that make you feel tense. Always look for the solution that keeps you relaxed. Sure you can bear the tension if you really need to, but it can cause actual damage. It's normal to want to avoid it. Just learn and adapt.
I guess that's why OCD is grouped in the same category as autism. Both come from an inability or unwillingness to just adapt. Especially during puberty when you're changing a bunch anyway.

tl;dr listen to some Alan Watts lectures, they're very related. Also read the Stephen Mitchell version of the Tao Te Ching. The solution isn't obvious and is custom tailored for you, so you have to find it yourself.

NAC + Lion's Mane + getting some novelty in your life, as in forcing yourself to do things differently does wonders. Not the OCD forced, as that will just strengthen the loops and make you fall harder. I've developed full on OCD (always had traces) while addicted to benzodiazepines when I had some nasty ear/eye infections, it was like a switch turned on.
It feels so much more satisfying now that you'd have the whole "think about this inane thing and analyse it from every angle" baggage. Things don't just disappear, they transform into skills.

>>42335639
>It's also highly likely that you're an introspective narcissist.
This as well. At least I can pretend I care about people. And pretend really hard that I want them to succeed so I fool myself into believing I'm not a narcissist.
It's a win-win situation.