The Book of Enoch (1 Enoch 6-8) posits that fallen angels, known as Watchers, introduced forbidden knowledge to humanity, including the art of makeup, specifically eye paint (cosmetics), jewelry, and dyeing, as tools of seduction and vanity. Azazel, a leader of the Watchers, is credited with teaching these practices.
>>42338518Oh my God, why was freewill allowed? Not like God wants to test people or anything. We shouldve just been without sin from the beginning!!!
>>42338518Book of Enoch isn't strong apocrypha, no verifiable authorship. Also the entire premise that demons could court with humans and copulate is contradicted directly in the Book of Matthew by Christ
>>42338518They're only "fallen" when viewed through a subhuman kike lense.Aryans are the chosen people. Scythian myth affirms this. Scythians claim descent from a snake legged goddess(Reptilian) who "fell into the Dnieper"The Annunaki(djinn) came from Nibiru. Nibiru means crossroads. The Bardo is a crossroads.Hades is the Bardo. Hades is the chaos that precedes creation.The taoists speak of Pangu who died in order to create our world. Pangu is hairy and has horns. I assert that Pangu is Saturn. Pangu is Veles and Veles is Cernunnos and Cernunnos is Odin. In one battle after another(shit movie) the white supremacists kept going 'hail saint nick'Saint Nick took on the attributes of Veles when the Slavs underwent forced Christianization.Ask Google. "Hail Saint Nick" is clearly code for "Hail Satan"Aryans are the chosen people.The sons of God(the djinn) bred with the fair daughters of men and created the Aryan race. Baphomet is Pangu, and the fires of hell and Hairy and Electric as was shown in Twin Peaks.The disclosure people keep going on about Nordics and space nazis.Connect the dots it's not complicated.
>>42338697>Connect the dots it's not complicatedCan you simplify it for me I don't have schizophrenia.
>>42338702I already explained it to you in plain English. The fires of hell are* hairy and electric and velvety.Also Christianity is the kalergi plan. Rome forced Christianity on everyone except kikes. This is because kikes infiltrated the roman ruling class. They bastardized Mithraism and turned it into the Jew worship that is Christianity. They concocted a slave religion specifically for the goyim. They are absolutely evil.
>>42338702StoryCrow on YouTube explains the Cernunnos-Odin connection.The snake legged goddess that Scythians claim descent from is equated with Ishtar. Ishtar is Lucifer. Semites always claimed that Aryans were devil worshippers. Look At how they treated the Yazidis, who are an iranic ethnic group.
>>42338738Are you okay? You are trying to tell me that Hell is hairy and electric and velvety. That makes no sense at all.
>>42338886geez anonI have no idea how much more straight forward you want him to explain it. it's so utterly self apparent
>>42338697This is Neo-Nazi pseudoMythology.>>42338661This.>>42338518Enoch is a fascinating book, and its likely allegorical is nature. But I'm now highly skeptical of it because you have the U.S. Government openly suggesting people read it.
>>42339168Fuck off lying christfaggot
>In the Indus Valley Civilization (c. 2500 BCE), archaeological excavations at Mohenjo-daro and Harappa have revealed small cosmetic containers, applicators, and evidence of pigments used for personal adornmentMakeup is older than Enoch. Enoch written in 3 bce.
>>42339252>Makeup is older than Enoch. Enoch written in 3 bce.lol, you are actually a retard, your reading comprehension sucks.how does when enoch was written, have anything to do with when the things it says have occurred, have occurred?enoch may very well be retelling a story that is, in his time, thousands of years old already.. or the things he were "shown" were like a documentary movie, projected mystically by the angels.most likely though, its allegory, encoding an altogether different message and misleading the unwashed plebs exoterically
>>42338518The watchers also taught people how to farm and make metal tools for said farming which pissed off god.
>>42339514Galatians 6:7Proverbs 20:4Proverbs 12:11Ecclesiastes 11:4Genesis 2:15Psalm 67:6All of these verses explicitly glorify and encourage farming anon. God explicitly told humans right from the start to caretake and cultivate the land.
>>42339559>Books written by different people and corrupted by the earths decay contradict one another at some point
Guys I feel like the end is near (yea two more weeks really funny) no seriously I feel it in my spirit like something big is about to happen. The conflict with Iran/Israel, the Beast system is ready with more data centers being build everywhere, agenda 2030, delusions are rampant, prophesies are coming true. All that is missing is one big event to crash the economy and mark us all with the chip, and before people say Im crazy they already did this in 2019 with the Coov. Everybody took it all over the world for a fake plandemic.I really feel like were around the corner. The Rapture could happen any day now, and they will blame it on Aliens. Then roll out the chip and UBI due to the crashing of the economy. Youre gonna laugh but its time to drop the bullshit and get right with Jesus.
>>42339591Maybe it can be avoided if people would stop being envious and angry all the goddamn time.
>>42339376A human wrote enoch. Likely a schizophrenic human who thought the voice in his head was gods voice. It must be understood, the old holy texts were written by schizotypals. Never ever listen to a voice in your head that comes from "god", a "spirit", an "alien", "angel", etc. Thats the schizobrain. Ignore that voice, even if it pretends to be jesus.
>>42339591No rapture and no aliens.Every year a schizophrenic religous person proclaims the rapture and every year theyre proven to be deluded. *Literally every single year someone claims that*, and every year it does not happen. Thats how we know they are deluded.
>>42339620EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN FUCKING YEAR SOME SHITSTAIN CULT LEADER CLAIMS IT WILL HAPPEN. EVERY YEAR IT NEVER HAPPENS. OVER AND OVER, AN ENDLESSLY REPEATED DELUSION.
>>42339628https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Christian_religious_predictionsAfter nearly 2000 years of this, youd think people would wise up and stop trusting priests.
>>42339620The Rapture is in the scripture, so as a Christian Im obliged to believe the word. That there are crazy schizos thats something that cant be avoided. Jesus also said that nobody will know the day or the hour, but he also said to watch for the signs. I personally think were reaching the end.Also, werent they releasing the alien files? I wouldnt be surprise if they start pre programing people for the aliens because when a rapture happens the economy will collapse and it will be massive chaos. The only way to explain a mass disappearance is aliens with project blue beam. Then immediately after the Anti Christ will be revealed and the 7 year tribulation will start
>>42339583>Books written by different people and corrupted by the earths decay contradict one another at some pointThen why bother acting as though Book of Enoch is reliable if that's how you feel? The Book of Enoch was rejected from the main biblical canon for a reason it's because it's theologically inconsistent not only with the Bible but also itself. The only reason why people cite the book of Enoch is because it has cryptid appeal with the "watchers" concept, because OooOo so mysterious and esoteric "watchers"! They watch things! Like spooky eyes through a window at night OoOoOoo..Gnostics are brain dead
>>42339642Your words give me a bit of hope, I wish it would happen I'm so tired of this place
>>42339802Thanks, thats exactly what 1 Thessalonians 18 says https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Thessalonians%204%3A%2014-18&version=KJV
>>42339793I like it because it lists the different forbidding knowledges instead of being vague about it. Metalworking and farming being forbidden directly links it to what leaving the Garden of Eden is about and being self sufficient to the point you can now struggle against God and a gluttony of life and death will explode.
>>42339897Yeah that's why it got rejected though. Because if Book of Enoch was correct, it then goes against Book of Genesis. Because God doesn't forbid metalwork, farming, etc. He imposes it as a prolonged consequence, a punishment. And if we accept Book of Enoch is would mean God's punishment is forbidden by God. which makes no sense lol.Similar problem happens with Book of Enoch & the "Nephilim" where it states fallen angels had sex with humans to create giant hybrid beings known as Nephilim. It contradicts Christ's teaching in Matthew, where Christ says that in the Kingdom, we shall no longer require marriage nor will marriages exist or happen in Heaven, that we will be 'like the angels' who require no pairing or marriage. Aka angels can't have sex or romantic pairbonds, their race is incapable. So fallen angels couldn't have copulated with humans as Book of Enoch claims.
>>42339924God is in control of everything so it doesnt matter. It's all on him but he'll blame it on Satan cuz he runs this world even though God allows it but its Satans fault
>>42339980Satan is responsible for our fall. But we are accountable for our consequences. Whenever man sins, it's because he chooses Satan. So the blame is 50% Satan for the temptation, 50% the human for accepting the temptation. And right now the way the world is Satan is taking a vacation, he doesn't even need to lift a finger anymore, humans do evil just fine on their own
>>42339924>No more romantic pairings or sexEveryday the bible sounds like more and more communist gobbledygook
>>42339999You're right. Satan ain't a threat, this world is just a game for humans to come have fun awhile then return to the divine.
>>42340086That's because you're not wearing your thinking hat. Human bodies are material, human bodies require reproduction to replicate itself, because human bodies are born, ripen with age, wither and then die. In a state of eternal life, there is no longer a necessity to reproduce and therefore no necessity for marriage. And yes marriage in every single theological outlook always necessitates reproduction, so before you object with what-aboutisms of marriages with no children, that's a modern invention. Time was, if your marriage didn't proffer children then your marriage was forfeit.
enoch my ballshah got em
>>42340196>You're right. Satan ain't a threat, this world is just a game for humans to come have fun awhile then return to the divine.Sort of. We ate of the fruit of knowledge, we gained knowledge of both good & evil in an instant. God had forbade us from eating of that fruit. But what most don't understand is the fruit was meant for us, it's why God had created it and even planted it in Eden. We were punished for eating of it too early, against God's permission. God intended for us to have the knowledge, but only at a specific point of spiritual maturity. And we disobeyed and took it before he allowed it, hence the fall. Unearned wisdom is a killer.So the point of earth is, you need to demonstrate to God that you can handle the knowledge of Good & Evil. Those who can show that they can handle it will return to the divine. Those who can't, perish.God isn't merciless or callous either. He became a man in Christ to personally show us how to handle it to give us all a fighting chance. This is called "theosis"That God had become a man, so that man could one day become like God. Because that is why God says "We will make man in our image". That's why both the tree of knowledge and the tree of life (immortality) was presented to us. God's plan was always to raise us to be like Him, to be co-creators, to become like God himself in jolly cooperation with Him. God wants a family it would seem.
>>42340248That makes sense. I dont think God is going to perish anybody except for Lucifer and the fallen. I feel even they deserve redemption.
>>42340272Well, they perish themselves. Free will is a gift and if we spend that free will to choose hell, oblivion, annihilation in our daily lives, and if we choose it over and over until death then that's exactly what God grants us, because it's what we would have wanted. We reap what we sow. If God instead plucked the hellbound away from hell to 'save' them, then it would violate free will. It also undermines God's plan. God's plan is love, and love has to be freely chosen and freely given and freely received. If God were to intervene against free will, then the love between man and God is no longer free.This is how we can know good faith from bad faith. For example when many flawed Christian parents try to force faith onto the kids. And by force I don't mean innocently baptising or taking to church, I mean parents who threaten or shame their kids over faith. Such parents are undermining God's plan, by making the faith feel less free, and more of imprisonment. Humans are lucky we have a whole life time to choose whether we go back to God or perish forever. Lucifer and the fallen had only one single decision upon their creation, they decided to fall in a timeless instant the second they spawned into creation so they cannot be saved or redeemed
>>42338518Cover-up story for Annunaki/Lemuria/Atlantis. Flood story and Book of Genesis pre-date the Bible. Humanity may be an experiment guarded by various NHI but mainly the Draco Reptilians.. Lemuria mythology even talks about the division of the sexes. I think the Annunaki downgraded humanity.. I also believe 666 symbolically relates to Saturn and carbon material (worship of the material world over spirit). It's possible we were put in some sort of simulation as well but idk. A lot of these are theories.>>42339168As with a lot of these religious and mythological stories, its likely a cover-up. None of us will ever know the full truth and its designed like that purposefully. I know this though:Everything is energy, we have souls and various groups are competing feasting for our souls. The push for transhumanism is no accident. Maybe we were originally powerful, crystalline spiritual beings who could manifest, heal and create easily. This is all just fascinating.
>>42338738You still don't understand what's going on. https://www.allreligionsareone.org/the%20Multiculti%20Church.html
>>42340368>666John the Exile coined the number, apostle John, Christ's disciple. It was him who coined that number. It appears first in the book of revelations, which is a cryptic book full of symbolism, because John was writing down visions. However it's always been understood that 666 was intentional linguistic code for "Nero"In the verse where it's used, John cautions the reader against the man who bears the number. That man would be Nero who at the time was said to have hunted down and killed Christians on sight. And because John was in exile, and his writings would get anyone who possessed them killed if they were found in their person, he needed to be cryptic when talking against Nero, to prevent people from dying if they were found to be carrying anti-roman/anti-nero literature. So he used the number 666 as code for Nero In Hebrew letters, "Neron QSR" (Nero Caesar) adds up to 666 (N=50, R=200, W=6, N=50, Q=100, S=60, R=200).666 is Nero
>>42338661Explain the harrowing of hell if the watchers did not commit carnal sin? I am not gotchaing you, i want to hear how you reconcile this.
>>42338543God gave humans free will then bro just made carnivores eat and devour animals with full nerve endings and pain receptors just for shits and giggles, if it was all a trst that really wasnt neccesairy
>>42340311So you think as soon as God created Lucifer he instantly rebelled then and there? Lol what about all the lore of him being held in high regard by God and even being deemed the perfect angel and considered 2nd to God in Heaven?
>>42340430Well for one thing, the watchers as far as the Book of Enoch is concerned don't exist. There are no nephilim, only fallen angels aka demons. The harrowing of Hell is when Christ descended into 'Hades' which can either be interpreted as sheol (land of the dead) or Hell itself. And he ministered to righteous souls who wound up in Hell to liberate them. There was no watchers there, and even if we suppose there were, their carnal sin would be irrelevant. Demons/fallen angels are condemned eternally not for carnal sin (which they can't even commit, only Book of Enoch suggests this) but they are eternally condemned because they committed the 'Unforgivable sin' known as Defiant Irreverence. So if Christ were to happen upon any watchers (fallen angels) they would not be liberated, they would stay in Hell where they belong.
>>42340451>t. Dopehead schizo that thinks he knows more than God
>>42340460>Lol what about all the lore of him being held in high regard by God and even being deemed the perfect angel and considered 2nd to God in Heaven?I know it sounds crazy right? But remember Heaven is a timeless realm, eternal, the passage of time isn't something we can fathom as mortals. There was an eternal instant time where Lucifer rebelled. But also a eternal time where he was in high regard, the commander of all Seraphim the highest order of angel, that's true too. It's a hard concept to discuss because time and the passage of eternal time in metaphysics gets funky.
>>42340485Yeah it is surreal! Then God still has him appear in Heaven to bet on Job.
>>42340494A bet the devil lost because God wasn't making a bet, Satan was pridefully doing that lol. What Satan couldn't wrap his seething seraphic mind around was the fact God had faith in Job just as much as Job had faith in Him. The faith goes both ways. And the reason why Satan couldn't understand that is his Pride couldn't compute it. Why would God of all creation have faith in someone so tiny and insignificant and mortal? Satan seethes to this very day about it he can't understand it. I think Satan might have stage 3 autism or something.
>>42339612>Likely a schizophrenic human who thought the voice in his head was gods voicethis board is so pedestrian I swear
such a dumbass bullshit thread. Hey retards, the "angels" and "demons" are aliens. They're not divine, never were. They're flesh and blood from another planet. They came to earth, hoodwinked and enslaved our ancestors, filled their heads with literal GARBAGE glorifying themselves and degrading ourselves. They can't even be bothered to make their nonsense consistent. PLEASE grow a fucking brain people.
>>42340615Find me their spacecraft then retard
>>42340627yeah i'll get right on that, here's a pic of the several thousand year old spacecraft that most likely got melted down and scrapped millennia ago. oh wait, it's actually a picture of my penis that i won't actually post so i don't get banned.
>>42340510What do you think wouldve happened if Lucifer didnt rebel?
>>42340654>What do you think wouldve happened if Lucifer didnt rebel?There would be no Christ. Lucifer would have fulfilled his role as light bringer, enlightener, mentor of humans in our spiritual infancy. That was his task and he abused it. So he was stripped of the role of Lucifer, light bringer. That title was given instead to a mortal woman, and she didn't just bring the light, she bore it in her womb. She gave birth to that light and delivered it to humanity through God's grace. Mary has the role of Lucifer now, the name Mary means "Star of the Sea". The same star Lucifer represents.As for the devil, he got the new title of Satan, "Deceiver" forever branded as a snake. Satan is also just a title. The real name of the fallen Seraphim people call the Devil is "Hel'el".
>>42340827But Lucifer is the devil/Satan right? I've heard some people claim they're different beings, if that's the case then what happened to Lucifer?
>>42338775Lucifer is Prometheus who is Enki. Lucifer actually created humanity.
>>42340861Lucifer is a role, like "blacksmith" or "architect" or "fisherman". Lucifer translates to "Light bearer" or "Light bringer". Satan is a title, like "Hero" or "Villain", "Coward", "Fool". But in this case Satan means "Deceiver".Hel'el is a fallen Seraphim angel who once held the role 'Lucifer', and after betraying this role, was cast out and branded as 'Satan', the Deceiver, the father of all lies. People who claim they are different beings are those who haven't read enough of the theological translation nuances and are simply mistaken. Most people are mistaken, even I was. Pop-culture and modern day churches don't spend enough time talking about the details of the devil or demons. Which is a shame I think they should because the best defense against evil is to learn how it works.
>>42340897I should correct myself One of the best defenses against evil*The actual best defense against evil is reverence to God and acceptance of Christ.
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>>42340897Yeah. At the end of the day though only God can know the full truth. We as humans will always question.
>>42340615This. Saturn/Enlil/El worshipers created Christianity as a slave "pagan light" religion. Why tf do you think Christians can eat pork? We are still pagans to them, but mentally ensalved, stupid fucking pagans now. Chirstmas is Yule, and Easter...they didnt even bother to change the name. They kept the same damn symbols too. Jesus's birth has nothing to do with coniferous trees. They dont even exist in sand people land. Wake tf up.
>>42340451Do you think animals have nerve endings and pain receptors for no reason? Its giving them important information and pain is something that is overwritten when you are going to die. If you watch wildlife they aren't crying in pain for hours as a predator kills them.
>>42340897Lucifer does mean light bearer, like the story of Prometheus giving humanity fire (knowledge) which is the story on Enki.Satan means adversary. Thats why Satan is depicted as an amalgamation of pagan gods (Pan's horns/legs, Posiden's trident)
>>42340920Yep, the mysteries of the faith run deep, man. Just when we think we understand it 50% it turns out to be only 0.005%. contemplation of eternity is an eternal task. What we do know is Hel'el is the eternal enemy, the snake in every man's heart. His cunning and Seraphic intellect is a lot more powerful than we realise because his goal is to kill all images of God (humans) at all costs. Not just bodily, spiritually. The devil knows he cannot hurt God, but he can hurt his children (us). So we're his target. We are up against the strongest of all Seraphim, the order of angels that are the most powerful of all orders, and we are up against a spiritual war against the former king of all seraph. Whose patronage is Pride and Intellect. And the way he has us in a bind is, he has convinced us to just kill each other. He doesn't even need to kill us directly, he just makes us do it ourselves. He convinced humans to no longer see the image of God in themselves (suicide) or in his brother (murder). And has convinced us to demonize other humans rather than identify the actual demons that prowl. And when we demonize another man, that man sees a demon in us. And that is why we as humans have been in perpetual conflict with one another. And that's just one tiny trick of the devil's, not even a tiny effort of his full power.Unfortunately for the devil, God makes Satan look like a grain of sand. And God has us covered. Glory to God.
>>42339642>Jesus also said that nobody will know the day or the hour,You actually cannot know so don't worry about it. Imagine what the people living through the black plague thought in their time yet 600 years later here we are. Place your faith in god and have no fear.
>>42340975Yeah, Prometheus would be the closest figure which could be compared to Satan. Difference is, Prometheus is a Titan of foresight, he is older than the Olympian Gods. Prometheus stole the fire to liberate mankind from divine tyranny. Where as Satan didn't steal the light (fire) it was given to him by God, God wanted humans to be enlightened, Satan had different ideas. >Thats why Satan is depicted as an amalgamation of pagan gods (Pan's horns/legs, Posiden's trident)That's a later depiction. The first depiction of the devil was a bit creepier, 6th century painting. And even then, it's just human's projecting their images of what they think angels look like. We know what Satan would have looked like, a biblically accurate Seraphim. A body of 6 wings and several hundred eyes
>>42341041Forgot to post pic: This is what devil looks like if biblical accuracy is to be believed.
>>42338518>>42338518I blame the jews
>>42341055Forgive me for my ignorance, but aren't angels and demons in a true sense incorporeal? They have no fixed physical form; they only assume various physical appearances either as a show of God's essence/power or to test people. So when Isaiah sees the Seraphim in chapter 6, that was really an allegory of God's essence/nature (since angels derive their essence and nature from God, moreso than we do)?
>>42340471Fair enough. I disagree the nephilim never existed, and I have personal experiences that subtle bodies can violate the veil to engage in fornication, so I beleive the sin of the watchers was something like this. I just wanted to see if your argument was educated. It is. Agree to disagree.
>>42340471Anon continuing>>42341873I beleive the point of the harrowing was God himself to unlock hell and free the imprisoned and then to imprison the jailers (the watchers) who wanted to drag human souls to share their eternal imprisonment, and the harrowing was God just explaining to them in hell that their plans were utterly defeated and undone. The watchers not being among the central demonic villains removes some of the pathos from the harrowing imo. But your interpretation is not invalid.
>>42338697>____ is ____>____ is ____ and _____ed with ____ >___ is ___ and also ___ who ____ed with ___ who is also ____I fucking hate posts like this. No offense. I believe the appropriate term for this is minutia or something. It's just nauseating trivia that makes me wonder what kind of ultra schizo autist scholars actually care about any of this.Just stick with the Bible. Everything you need to know is in there. God himself has ensured this, breathing through the book directly what humanity needs to know, nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter who has "tampered" with the Bible, it is the truth. Everything else, almost all "occult" knowledge is autistic and schizophrenic babbling. There is one exception for me personally though which is Michael Tsarion's research. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_ca5fYhVOg
>>42339559This lmao. It's literally chapter one of the Bible. Everyone is terrified of just reading the Bible and prefers to come up with their own special brain lore. Very appropriate though, considering what times we are in. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.
>>42340196This is dangerous thinking anon. We are in a fallen realm, you fell to be here and you are absolutely not going to return as some matter of fact. Salvation is real and you absolutely must accept it from the only avenue through which you can, which is the salvation of Jesus Christ. It is offered freely to everyone on the planet and once this has been made known to all peoples of the world (which it has) there is no excuse for turning away from it. To believe that everyone is simply going to die and return to God is heresy and extremely dangerous thinking. In fact, nothing is more dangerous.
>>42339924Once you fall into a physical body you can have sex... how is this not obvious to you.
>>42340879Literal blatant heresy. >>42340997Good post and Amen.
>>42340615>ACTUALLY THEY ARE ALIENS Honestly who cares. What is spiritual in various realms is as real as physical reality. Literally what difference does it make. You are however running the risk of believing that there are no non-physical entities in existence which is heretical and completely retarded, but you're in good company with that cope. Many people refuse to believe.
>>42338697Aryan means virtuous, not white.The aryans are the serpent priests.You're way off.
>>42342059But anon... Pangu is Saturn. Pangu is Veles and Veles is Cernunnos and Cernunnos is Odin. Therefore if you are white you are going to heaven when you die okay? Keep up. Muh Aryans. I'm a viking.
>>42340272God honors free will. He will not drag people who refuse to be with him into heaven. Not only do some beings refuse to be with God, they hate him and will refuse salvation deliberately. To say they "deserve" redemption is therefore kind of misguided. They don't want it. This is true evil, and if you're lucky you won't have to learn the harsh truth which is that this planet is full of genuinely evil people who feel the same way. They do not want redemption. They hate you for implying that goodness or redemption is even a worthwhile thing.
>>42340460The reason angels and demons cant be redeemed is that but they had perfect knowledge of God, they lived in his prescence and had infinite knowledge and wisdom. So when they chose separation from God due to this knowledge it became a perfect permanent decision. They can never claim ignorance like humans. The devil was great and the most beautiful angel so he became prideful and wanted to be worshiped as God. He then convinced 1/3rd of the angels. If perfect beings like angels could be fooled imagine what can happen to us?But Gods plan is perfect, he separated hunans so that we could grow on our own, he then became man and as Jesus Christ showed us the way and died for our sins, so anyone that believed in him should not perish but have everlasting life, and finally when he ascended to heaven he sent the holy spirit to live in us and guide us. So all we have to do is believe in Jesus and he will redeem us. Our salvation is not of works, were saved trough faith, in Jesus Christ.
>>42338518yeah basically anything that is deceitful or sinful in nature was introduced to humans by demons or demonic possessed humans in ancient times.Including some political systems.
>>42340451exactly, free will for God is like the difference between you hurting yourself and not doing hurting yourself by doing things that make you healthy.Getting angry at the consequences of your free will is like getting angry at yourself for feeling pain if you do things that hurt your body.
>>42338518The book of Enoch details the younger dryas comet impact. The same way revelation describes the Toba super eruption with the seals. The nephilim were just the remaining human group that had not gotten the "word" so they were still not fully conscious. Imagine a grown adult with the symbol driven pre verbal mind of a toddler. All instinct and no impulse control. How do you transmit such thing through generations so people don't forget? You tell a fantastic story about it. Storytelling is our oldest tradition. There's real explainations for all myth.
>>42342046Hersey according to your book. The story of Enki and Enlil predates the bible, which is an obvious ripoff of previous "holy" texts, which are nothing but early man trying to document our existence that we could not (and still can't) comprehend. Extraterrestrials created us, specifically Enki. Yahweh (Enlil) is not the one true god, as much as your book tells you he is. The true apex of consciousness/source, is literally in everything in existence. Everything is "god" like every cell in my body is "me". Just be a net positive for this collective. Be a kind person, and have compassion for all forms of life. It's not difficult, and in fact, it feels great.
>>42342572>The nephilim were just the remaining human group that had not gotten the "word" so they were still not fully conscious. Imagine a grown adult with the symbol driven pre verbal mind of a toddler. All instinct and no impulse control.10 feet tall eating and raping machines. Truly horrific shit.
>>42342601>I don't understand symbolism nor human development I guess you don't remember being a kid either.
>>42338518And? From my experience, some of those guys weren't/aren't inherently evil or anything. Pround and vain, yes, but not evil (at least that was my impression of Shemyaza or Penemue). That's it. Also, Rep. Luna is probably partially right that these were NHI humanity came into contact with, or at least one group of. The latter part of 1 Enoch is possibly a description of an abduction event, or at least written from a perspective of someone aboard a spacheship.
nephilim never existed? I freakin' saw them in the hollow earth during an astral projectionthey even matched the description an anon gave who astral projected to the deep caves where they also live, and I hadn't even read his post yet
>>42342596Correct. Old Testament is a ripoff of/reduced Canaanite religion, hence the plural Elohim, for example. The worship of Ba'al and Asherah is widely described in Kings/Chronicles, for example. Israelites ca. 10th-9th century BC were polytheistic and navigated towards monolatry over time, eventually to monotheism.Also, I think there is at least some truth to the fact that Abram (and later, Israelites) may have come from Ur of the Chaldees. The creation myth presented in the Bible matches Sumerian beliefs all too well. Doesn't necessarily mean one person (Abram) carried that particular myth, it was more likely some group of people who migrated from the falling Ur during the late Third Dynasty. It would fit the biblical timeframe of Abram living ca. 2000 BC, too.
>>42342660Description please. Is it like the "looks like clown" theory? Fascinating topichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJYT-CXFM9w
>>42338661Its not science its faith lolTheyre stories not facts
>>42342704what? fuck nothe males are like 15 feet tall, with long beards, really bony faces and derpy looking wide-set eyes, almost sideways, like the eyes on prey speciesnever saw any femalesthis is the post where someone else saw the same thing https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/28667808
>>42342065God is the devil and the devil is God. Can't have good without the bad. It's the yin and yang anon. Aryans have the most Reptilian-Aryan-Annunaki blood, whereas niggers - they have the least.When you die you go to Hades and then you reincarnate.Not that complicated anon really straight-forward.The fires of hell are velvety and hairy and electric.The Buddha was Scythian with blue eyes and blonde hair.When the yin and yang spin really fast, you get a swastika.
>>42338661They aren't daemons, they're fallen angels (that's why their names match the style of the angels - often ending "el"). Their spawn are/were the Nephilim (who are talked about multiple times in the Bible), the flood that Noah built the ark for was sent by God to wipe out the Nephilim.Enoch is compelling because it is referenced multiple times in the Bible - Enoch himself (not the author) is spoken about as ascending to heaven without dying by God himself in the Bible.The Books of Enoch make the Bible make more sense.
>>42342601Nephilim looked like clowns guy is brilliant, except for his christfaggotry which is highly sus.The Scythians literally worshipped these beings because they are the sons of God who bred with the fair daughters of men and taught the Aryan race everything. They're the djinn who reside in Hades. To be possessed by the djinn is to be a genius. These beings are only bad if you're a non-white. They're viewed to be oppressors of humanity if you're a non-white. Whites have the most "nephilim" blood and it is clear as fucking day. Stop being obtuse.Why are you knuckleheads so difficult.Veles is Kronos and Kronos is Pangu.The fires of hell are hairy and reincarnation is real.
It is an old myth.I wish people stop hate each other over religion and politics.
>>42343095>God is the devil and the devil is God. Can't have good without the bad. It's the yin and yang anon.Nta but that's irrational logic, God/Goodness/Light does not need Devil/Evil/Darkness to define itself. Because Darkness is not a thing in and of itself, neither is Evil. There is only light & goodness and the lack of it. Shadows are not physical things, shadows occur due to a lack of light. Same is true for evil, it's due to a lack of goodness. Do you understand? A lack of something ≠ it is something. >>42343202>The Books of Enoch make the Bible make more sense.If it directly contradicts Christ Himself then objectively no it doesn't make more sense.
>>42343290> Same is true for evil, it's due to a lack of goodness.Nah. That's what they say, but the truth is, if you just sit on your ass all day, you're not evil, you're just pathetic. To be evil, you actually have to go out and hurt someone. Imagine if John Wayne Gacy had just jerked off instead of going out and murdering dudes. 33 people would still be alive, and he'd be a sad old loser, which is infinitely better than being a serial killer.
>>42343331Not sure what point you're trying to make but it doesn't matter if you sit on your ass all day, it doesn't make you evil. Doesn't make you good either, just makes you someone who wastes his time.
>>42343290Are you a bible creationist type of guy?Do you take the garden of Eden story literally?
>>42343331What a weird post
>>42343351>Are you a bible creationist type of guy?Not exactly no>Do you take the garden of Eden story literally?Yes I do. But keep in mind I am not a standard theist, I'm a panentheist (not pantheism). From my earnest understanding, this Universe is not separate from God (theism), nor is the Universe itself God (pantheism), rather the Universe is within God (panentheism) much the same as our mind is connected to our own body. God is through the Universe but also above it. "In all, through all, above all."The reason I bring this up is because I do believe the Garden of Eden story to have occurred. Whether that happened on a physical level or a spiritual level I don't know. I do know there was the first beings who inherited divine spark, and we came into contact with a forbidden mode of conscience (fruit of knowledge), and we fell (became dysfunctional and prone to evil), and we are no longer close to God as we once were. Whether that took place in a paradisal setting or a desert to me makes no difference.
>>42343407I hear exactly what you're saying and I agree, we need world-wide religious white supremacy with a rigid race-based caste system based upon how much Reptilian Aryan Annunaki blood is in said person. And also I agree with you Christ-consciousness is Buddha-consciousness. Absolutely brilliant, anon. I'm glad that we've established some common ground. Love is the answer anon. Namaste.
>>42340368There is no space boy. So your Annunaki cannot come from space, if there is no space. There are the planetary spheres, and then God. If you think there are "solar systems", or "galaxies", far away, guess what, you have been tricked.
>>42342704This might be a better introduction to the topic, from the same guy, it's only 15 minutes and you don't have to click around for the meat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_8Fc66bseM
>>42343223I'm willing to accept that the topic is more complex than "nephilim bad" but you're the one being obtuse when you suggest these beings who rape and eat people are actually good as long as you're white. They are (supposedly) top predators with 250 IQ, I have no problem accepting that their ways are beyond our comprehension and only seem terrifying. I'm tired of Aryan larpers though. You're not a viking. You being white does not make you a majestic enlightened being and brown people are not the only people who can admit that the nephilim are scary as fuck. If you respect these beings you would admit they are to be feared. Not above God, certainly, but you get the point.
>>42343596>we need world-wide religious white supremacy with a rigid race-based caste system based upon how much Reptilian Aryan Annunaki blood is in said personOkay, now what. The nephilim bloodline already does rule the world. You aren't royalty just because your skin is pale though, you're a peasant whose children will just as soon be devoured as any other race, in fact your children are the real delicacy.
>>42341438>Forgive me for my ignorance, but aren't angels and demons in a true sense incorporeal?Correct>They have no fixed physical form; they only assume various physical appearances either as a show of God's essence/power or to test people.Also correct.>So when Isaiah sees the Seraphim in chapter 6, that was really an allegory of God's essence/nature (since angels derive their essence and nature from God, moreso than we do)?Yes. But it's not linguistic allegory for the sake of abstraction. What's happening is when a metaphysical being such as an angel or demon encounters a human, the human mind cannot compute its metaphysical form. So what the human mind does is it will find the closest symbols or allegories to try to perceive it. So when a human perceives a seraphim, they see 6 wings and countless eyes. 2 wings for reverence and humility 2 wings for modesty and submission2 wings for service and actionAnd 100 eyes to represent God's omniscience (God sees all).The human mind sees wings because wings bring to mind that which is "above", and heavenly entities are from the "above". That isn't to say above up in the sky, but above as in, they are from an overlapping or enveloping higher mode of existence than this mortal plane we are in.Truthfully we do not know what angels truly look like in their true heavenly form, all we have is our mind's frail attempt to perceive them when they reveal themselves. Think of it like this:Pretend you and I exist in a 2-D plane. And pretend the angel is a cube, a 3D object. We never saw 3D or have any ability to perceive it. Now let's say the cube decides to interact with us on a 2D plane. We will see a square, we will see the closest approximation of its form, but we will never see it's 3D aspects. Make sense? This is how John the Exile had to parse through his visions in revelations too.
>>42344505>>42344545Both of you are retarded scum and I see right through your bullshit.
>>42340975The Enuma Elish seven tablets of creation precedes the bible by 4000 years. The Epic of Atrahasis is another creation story scribed on clay tablets 3000 years before the bible. The bible plagiarized these two, along with other writings, to fit the narrative of early christians. The god in,the old testament is Enlil who subverted all three religions to worship him and changed his half brother Enki to the serpent so people would hate him. Enlil is an evil entity but people pray to him not knowing. Enki created mankind and was the giver of knowledge put people hate him not knowing. The bible had numerous edits over millennia. The Enuma Elish and the Epic of Atrahasis has had 0 edits over millennia. But yet, people gotta believe their bible. I feel sadness for those people. All their lives they pray to and worship an entity that hates them.
>>42344700The God of this is actually that. Christ is girugamesh of pali canon, but girugamesh is also a na'avi who is just a persona of Paul Atreides and his mother Lady Jessica is actually Mary who is just a version of Sophia, and Sophia is similarly Venus, whose son is Phobos, the personification of fear, and fear is regarded as coming from the enemy, therefore we can say Phobos = Satan = Prometheus = Hulk HoganNow remember, Enkidu is also a labubu, both are beast like. The sun is a sphere, and is the true God of girugamesh, and we can say spheres behave like balls that can capture beasts, the sun is a pokeball, intended to capture Enkidu the Labubu (according to sanskrit tradition).This is what you sound like.
>>42344699Those are both me, one person. What you've said is not an argument by the way, it's an emotional reaction. Contemplate it further.
>>42344700>The bible had numerous edits over millennia.Who cares? God has still used it to reveal the truth. You think humans are able to stop God's plans? All that other stuff you just said is tiresome trivia btw as mentioned here >>42341984You are not enlightened for having your head full of esoteric historic trivia. It's all schizophrenic babbling at the end of the day. Jesus Christ and The Bible are the truth. Doesn't get any simpler than that.
>>42343342>>42343358the point I was making is that the cliche of evil being the absense of good, as brought up by >42343290, is incorrect. The absense of good is laziness or apathy. Evil is something people have to actively choose to do.
>>42344854You didn't debunk anything you just call your opponents crazy.Christianity is the kalergi plan and the kikes were never chosen.The theory of evolution pulls the rug from underneath Christianity.
>>42339924Says right there in genesis 6 the sons of god came down, mated with human women and produced giants
>>42340248Glad to see there's someone else who understands the subtext in the narrative. It's like people forget that Adam and Eve weren't literally the first humans, they were meant to be the most Perfect human(s) which is why the fall was such a big deal. He spent a lot of time on Adam, after all.It's also why God floods the planet after the Nephilim fill the world with Giant spawn and corrupt humanity. Azazel thought he could fast forward the experiment but in reality he did the equivalent of handing a bunch of chimps and chimp-human hybrids crack cocaine and assault rifles. Nothing good would come of that.>>42342087>>42340311A lot of people neglect the fact that humans had free will before Adam and Eve ate the apple. >>42340460It's worth pointing out that apocrypha offers two explanations for why Satan rebelled:>Satan placed his throne above God's and thought himself superior>Satan got pissy when God told him to bow before Adam>>42339559There's an interesting observation to be made about the relationship of God/humanity to nature, especially when you factor in the drama between God and Leviathan. While God/humanity may struggle with Chaos (not the evil doom and gloom kind, but the primordial darkness/waters/Id/Shadow), it is our responsibility to tame and control that Chaos before making it kin. After all, God tames the Behemoth and ends up pretty much writing love letters about how much he likes the Leviathan.>makes two big ass scary Kaiju, beats the shit out of both of them>(several years later)>they are now his pets (he'll eat them in the future, just like how a farmer does)
>>42338697>Scythians claim descent from a snake legged goddessMost based thing about the Scythians was that their priesthood was MtF trannies to represent that androgynous baphomet nature of Shiva-Shakti. They hotboxed reefer in tents at Scythian funerals and bummed each other. The shit you learn on Wikipedia, right?
>>42339591>I feel it in my spirit like something big is about to happenIt's already happening, You're inside the singularity/wormhole that bridges the iron age and the next golden age. Surf it bro.
The Book of Enoch is fanfiction like the Apocryphal Books but its still entertaining to read
>>42343290Both are:"It is not to be thought that the life of darkness is sunk in misery and lost as if in sorrowing. There is no sorrowing. For sorrow is a thing that is swallowed up in death, and death and dying are the very life of the darkness" –Jacob Boehme"80.10 Questioner: Now, the fifteenth archetype, which is the Matrix of the Spirit, has been called the Devil. Can you tell me why that is so?Ra: I am Ra. We do not wish to be facile in such a central query, but we may note that the nature of the spirit is so infinitely subtle that the fructifying influence of light upon the great darkness of the spirit is very often not as apparent as the darkness itself. The progress chosen by many adepts becomes a confused path as each adept attempts to use the Catalyst of the Spirit. Few there are which are successful in grasping the light of the sun. By far, the majority of adepts remain groping in the moonlight and, as we have said, this light can deceive as well as uncover hidden mystery. Therefore, the melody, shall we say, of this matrix often seems to be of a negative and evil, as you would call it, nature."
>>42338518>that fallen angels, known as WatchersYou got it backwards. Watchers are known as fallen angels.They're not angels at all.They're Buddhas.
>>42346404>You got it backwards. Watchers are known as fallen angels.>They're not angels at all.>They're Buddhas.interestingthey're egregores aka the wakeful. buddha is basically that, no?it is said that buddhas do not intervene with the world but some of them will do anyway
>>42345774>You're inside the singularity/wormhole that bridges the iron age and the next golden age.Hardly. What is the astrological situation described as when the ages change, and when do you think it happened?
>>42338543>>42340451Angels also have free will and 2/3s of them chose Christ
>>42338518Angels were the original faggots after all.
>>42345744I highly doubt that every single shaman was a tranny.Didn't Christ say something about eunuchs? Anyway
Kikes are nothing but cocksucking faggots whove been sucking circumcized bleeding dick since the dawn of time and your fucking yeshua also got blown by his mohel and he was nothing but a brown fucking Arab turdman who smelled like fucking shit and took shits out of his hairy ass all over his own balls.
