Superiority through ascetismBuddhism is an ancient ritual that allows to detach yourself from desire, suffering and in higher levels, transcend into a superior state of being.
>>42339071If you think you're superior, you are far from enlightenment fellow anon.
>>42339100Buddha shall help us become the übermonks!
>>42339071Who is it that is superior? The illusion of superiority is coming from the liberation from the illusions.If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him
If entire planet became ascetics, species go extict.
>Be me.>As a child told that Buddhism is this super spiritual path.>Grow up and learn what it actually is.>It's just nihilism.
>>42339246The Buddha explicitly rejected nihilism, classifying it as a "wrong view" and an extreme to be avoided.
>>42339272>Desire bad
Ironically, Middle Way of the Buddha is a micro-cosmic transmission of the macro-cosmic manifestation of the non-dual consciousness of all potentiality, also know as the Christ(not the incarnation).Detachment is merely a crutch for people who are too inept to face reality and is different from he state of non-being and becoming.
>>42339408Good and bad is dualistic thinking. Desire is a driving mechanism, the consequence of not satisfying the desired outcome leads to Dukkha: dissatisfaction, anguish, suffering. I want this and that. I don't want this or that. >>42339444What does it mean to face reality?
>>42339576Not beating the nihlism allegations, you're just reinforcing them.
>>42339576>What does it mean to face reality?To explore duality, in order to overcome it.How you know that good is good and bad is bad?You know courage overcomes fear, but if you've never faced fear, then you wont know courage.If you don't know both, then how can you know that they're of the same essence? To know is to know.You will know if you ever face what is real, then you will know what is not real. Integrate, assimilate.
I identified as this for a timeNow just a spiritualist There is beauty in all religions of you know how to look
Who cares about enlightenmemt. It'll happen whenever I get whereever.
Why does buddhism attract so many holier-than-thou pseuds?
>>42339711Intellectual ego based scientific atheists from the west finding their first science based religion. Very few a foundation of regular practice, like having completed 1000 hours of vipassana, Mani mantra, or Prajnaparamita mantra.They have possibly never visited an asian country where there are shrines to many different deities, and occult talismans sold at temples - so they take a purely non-occult view of how things work.This means a lot of their words are based on a telephone game of things they have read or extrapolated, rather than personal experience.
>Acktually "Intellectuals" having idiotic discussion>Not knowing the next buddha is already alive and isn't some asian.Fuck ya'll
>>42339696And what does it mean to overcome duality? Since detachment is in your opinion a crutch, you have to be attached to something.
>>42339747>they take a purely non-occult view of how things work.Spot on analysis and it's not just Buddhism, pretty much all eastern teachings are fragmented and disseminated as McDivinity religions.
>>42339747>where there are shrines to many different deities, and occult talismans sold at templesI didn't know the Buddha worshipped local deities and sold talismans at tempels. You learn something new every day.
>>42339801you should visit some east asia countries to expand your knowledge of the world
>>42339768>Since detachment is in your opinion a crutch, you have to be attached to something.Just follow the transmission. I started by explaining that the Middle Way and Christ are essentially the same transmission/impulse that is still available to humanity and our "compatibility" with it was increased exponentially through the Mystery of Golgotha. If you were baptized, you're already initiated, you can self-initiate or find a person of some practice from any religious background and it will become obvious to you. The rest is discipline in practice, that's what most Buddhist sects will nail into you, if you don't practice, even if you're extremely talented and sensitive, you might not amount to shit in the end.
Some useful resources for those aiming to follow the REAL PATH of Buddhism. Buddhist jingoism is the only truth in this worldhttps://www.youtube.com/live/I0CqeF7ZOwshttps://suttacentral.net/introduction?lang=enhttps://www.accesstoinsight.org/begin.html
>>42339817Yes, I'll have to go to Thailand and get me some real Kuman Thong.
>>42339817Hmm yeah I should...wanna send me 4k so I can fund this trip?
>>42339878Anon I'm pretty sure you can find a man's thong somewhere in america as well if you're into that.
Does this cover tantric buddhism? I am studying tantra but I am in dire need of a cute girl to try it with.
If you take anything away from Buddhism, -Follow the Five Precepts yes that means no alcohol or weed ever, put away your copes you degenerate-Do the shikantaza meditation every day or better yet multiple times a day-Recognize that Mara is deadly real, he's not a cute funny charming handsome entity the way Neil Gaiman and other Jewish media figures portray Satan, and he's in control of you part of the time... he has the least control when you do shikantaza-Extend compassion to all beings, and realize that if you degrade someone else you degrade yourself as a degradeR-Put aside all you "know" about Buddhism and read the Dhammapada as in the Buddha's own words, then let the light show you what Buddhism really is about
>>42340306Weren't the Japanese trying to take over the world despite being buddhist? Was that siddharta's call to arms?
>>42340306>degradeRFuck you asshole, tongue in cheek bullshit you type.
>>42340047That is Hinduism, not buddhism
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>>42342633I had no idea they are so based. Buddha would have definitely followed their example if he lived in today's era.
>>42339408desire bad isn't nihilistic
>>42342807Desire is the foundation of all life. Rocks don't desire. Buddhists want to become rocks.
>>42342850That's dumb. What Buddhism aims is to destroy expectations and attachment. You can be hungry but the expectation of getting food will lead to frustration. Instead Buddhists do the rational thing and eat if possible, and if not, they aren't bothered by it. But of course survival is essential to any buddhist.
>>42342871>Self-contradictory nonsense.If you are hungry, desiring food encourages you to seek it out. That's why we experience hunger.
>>42342912Yes which is different from expecting to get it all the time or immediately. That's the thing, Buddhism allows you to reason what you'll do with that desire instead of gobbling the first thing you find like a retarded ape.
>>42342946You don't need Buddhism for that. Buddhism didn't invent the concept of planning for the future.
>>42342959>Buddhism didn't invent the concept of planning for the future.Of course not, Buddhism PERFECTED it
>>42339071the only thing that buddhism lacks and makes all the rest of his doctrine incorrect and false is the believe that there is no soul, and for that, i believe it is the worse religion out there
What does it take to be as capable as shaolin masters using Buddhism? Is it the way?https://youtu.be/FlNm2r9UjHk
>>42343397Soul is but the attachment little faggots have to life. There is nothing...and that is okay.
>>42343449Wait, then, why is there reincarnation?
>>42343463The reshaping of atoms, the eternal transformation of the world.t. follow secular buddhism
>>42343485I see. I guess I think of reincarnation as a purely mystical, ethereal thing, divorced from the material aspect of existence. Now I remember some people thought of the sould as an electromagnetic field. Interesting.
>>42342850>the foundation of all lifeSo? What is so good about a loosh farm?
>>42343397This is a contested topic. Anatta and anatman which are usually translated "no self" actually means Not self and Not Atman.What the Buddha said was that the five aggregates: 1 Form (body/matter), 2. Feeling (sensations), 3. Perception (recognition), 4. Mental Formations (volition/habits), and 5. Consciousness. Any of these are not the self/atman. Buddha didn't deny or confirm the existence of a self, he remained silent when asked. Any belief in a "self" is an attachment to an idea or identity by the ego, to something that can't be defined and you're not liberated (Nirvana) when you hang on to that identity.
>>42343438No, Buddhism actually weakens the body due to inaction and you end up a fat slob like the buddha they so reverse. Only the teachings of Jesus Christ will allow you to karate chop your enemies into oblivion.
>>42343574Blather all you wish, you still dont believe in a soul, and that makes it the worst.
Do you think he and the Buddha would get along?
>>42339071>Superiority through ascetismOh yeah? Can your Buddha DO THIS?https://youtu.be/O1K1wNXKPr8
>>42343675Why do you think you can decide what someone else believe or don't believe? I go by what near death experiencers say and collaborating related experiences since that's the best evidence we have. Is that a soul? Is it eternal or impermanent? Does it have an independent existence?
>>42343699They would be archenemies. Buddha is about abandoning yourself while Nietzsche was all about claiming what rightfully belongs to you and conquering. All those elements are anathema to the buddha.
>>42343792Is there any way to join buddhism and nietzshism?
>>42343825No, Nietzsche said "God is Dead" and what he meant was that his philosophy kills the Buddha.
>>42339234If the entire planet became enlightened, it would be a higher net good then the continuation of the species.I don't think any serious Buddhist would dispute this.
>>42340306Based and shikantaza pilled.
>>42339604You were saying?(This is why im not dogmatic and I will nly do what makes sense to me with logic)
>>42344094but what about muh star wars>you're probably right
>>42339868This. Too long has Buddhism been a religion of peace for all the good it has done. Its time for fire and brimstone>>42343934Nietzsche died alone and insane, he isn't saying shit.
>>42343787I can cut through bullshit and tell you that Buddhism denies a soul, which makes it the worst.
>>42344173What is a soul?
>>42344318You're wasting your time anon. They got no idea what a soul is, just an attachment because they're too afraid of death.
"Know, O you Bhiksus! The same is the case with the Tathagata, the Alms-deserving, the All-Enlightened-One, the Unsurpassed Best Trainer, the Teacher-of-Heaven-and-Earth, the Buddha-World-Honoured One. He comes as a great Doctor and subdues all tirthikas and bad doctors. Inthe presence of kings and all people, he says: "I shall become the King of doctors and subduetirthikas." Thus we say: "There is no self, no man, no being, no life, no nurturing, no knowing,none that does, and none that receives." O Bhiksus! Know that what the tirthikas say is like thecase of a worm that eats upon [a piece of] wood, from which, by chance, there appears whatlooks like a letter. Because of this, the Tathagata teaches and says no-self. This is to adjustbeings and because he is aware of the occasion. Such non-self is, as occasion arises, spoken of,and it is [also] said that there is the Self. This is as in the case of the learned Doctor, who knowswell the medicinal and non-medicinal qualities of milk. It is not as with common mortals, whomight measure the size of their own self. Common mortals and the ignorant may measure thesize of their own self and say, 'It is like the size of a thumb, like a mustard seed, or like the sizeof a mote.' When the Tathagata speaks of Self, in no case are things thus. That is why he says:'All things have no Self.'Even though he has said that all phenomena [dharmas] are devoid of the Self, it is not that theyare completely/ truly devoid of the Self. What is this Self? Any phenomenon [dharma] that istrue [satya], real [tattva], eternal [nitya], sovereign/ autonomous/ self-governing [aisvarya], andwhose ground/ foundation is unchanging [asraya-aviparinama], is termed 'the Self' [atman]. Thisis as in the case of the great Doctor who well understands the milk medicine. The same is thecase with the Tathagata. For the sake of beings, he says "there is the Self in all things" O you thefour classes! Learn Dharma thus!"
>>42344393>They got no idea what a soul is, just an attachment because they're too afraid of death.i have to correct you, their persona is afraid of death.
>>42344318A complete unknown to any Buddhist, which is why it is the worst.You want to know, you have to leave Buddhism.
>>42343792>Buddha is about abandoning yourselfthere is no abandonment. there is simply relation to a persona that has developed to pretension, maintaining this pretension is the root of confusion, confusion that fails to dissolve the dream called life.
>>42344118Yes Christianity is also nihilistic. All over the world nihilisms are promoted to keep human livestock passive.
>>42339711this is a thought formed in a moment, in addition the question is an assertion not an inquiry, meaning the held position wouldn't only attempt generalizing group of people, it further convolutes the discussion from the topic towards a moot point. even so skepticism is about detachment, which buddhism ultimately boils down to, questioning existence itself. perhaps pursuing anything against the mainstream can be interpreted as being belittling of others, as if you knew better than others, and the truth is mainstream is not the truth, as we wouldn't be here if that was the case.
>>42339711Most religions attract ego maniacs. I've seen it everywhere.
>>42344862This. Only Nietzsche had it right
>>42341436sort of
>>42344862Religion is opium for the masses
>>42343449maybe for you lol>>42343485lmao
>>42343574semantic pharaphernalia>>42343675this>>42344173this>>42344318the self>>42344393you sound like a reddit atheist who love to suck dick
>>42339234>If entire planet became ascetics, species go extict.If even a small fraction of the population awakened, there would be enough buddhas to provide food out of "thin air," i.e. liberated consciousness. In fact, this is coming sooner rather than later.>>42339272>rejected nihilismNihilism in the buddhist sense 'emptiness' is one of the most powerful approaches. Nagarjuna sounded exactly like Pyrrho when he refused to make any claims or take any position in debates/discussions. Skepticism is the strongest approach because it's grounded in honestly. And honesty requires a huge amount of courage. Liar's path is quick, easy, get's you a short-term reward, but perpetuates your meandering through samsara.>>42341436>That is Hinduism, not buddhismKekw, buddhism is hinduism stripped for export.>>42339710>Who cares about enlightenmemt. It'll happen whenever I get whereever.Based Pathless-path seeker.>>42340047Vajrayana is omega-based. It's riskier than the other branches, but the reward comes faster if you're strong enough.>>42343574>he remained silent when askedBased noble silence appreciator. Buddha was usually silent when someone asked about a head-in-the-clouds metaphysical question. Stay grounded, build the foundation, then meditate upwards and those answers come on their own.>>42343699They're drinking tea in the highest heaven, sending flashes of insight to their devotees. Interestingly, Vajrayana is referred to as the 'thunderbolt path.'
>>42345938Deep wisdom here.
>>42344743Leave for what? >>42345938>Nagarjuna sounded exactly like Pyrrho when he refused to make any claims or take any position in debates/discussions. Skepticism is the strongest approach because it's grounded in honestly.It likely stems from the interaction and changes of ideas between Greek philosophers and Buddhist monks in Gandhara.
>>42345938>They're drinking tea in the highest heaven, sending flashes of insight to their devotees. Interestingly, Vajrayana is referred to as the 'thunderbolt path.'That's so based.
How would you practice Nietzsche's ideals with Buddhism?
>>42340306>Follow the Five Precepts yes that means no alcohol or weed ever, put away your copes you degenerateWhat about coffee?
>>42340306>Calls suffering beings Degenerates>you degrade yourself when u degrade othersUm check urself anon.
>>42340306Also the 'fifth' precept is do not use intoxicate that cause heedlessness and break the other precepts. I can drink alcoholic gin & smoke hashish 24/7 if it don't cause heedlessness. So the use of your words:>Don't booze or cannabis EVERIs just unwise. The rest of you post is ok but there is an air of arrogance shrouded over your words. So check urself
