>Gnostics be like "yes this was totally created by an evil demiurge"
>>42339131I have wallenberg syndrome, whole body burning nerve pain, and can't eat most food. All I see is pain. You fucking retard.
>>42339131Ai slop>>42339135Just take ibuprofen bro.
>>42339131The kenoma is a flawed and inferior mimicry of the pleroma.
>>42339141So fucking what? Why do you cry about and not do something?
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>>42339135If you curse the demiurge now, then he will force you to reincarnate with the same sickness in your next life.Apologize to him and you might be a cute girl next time.
>>42339146doing = movement = the kenoma
>>42339131plenty of creatures are eating ecah other in that kind of environment
>>42339157Someone tell him
>>42339131>"NOOOOO CREATION IS EVIL BECAUSE UHH... THINGS CAN FEEL PAIN, OR SOMETHING!!!"
>>42339135I call bullshit and even if it was true le demiurg didn't do this to you, chumpski hunk.
>nature is beautiful>So lets rot in a church>And do not love the world>Because if you love the world love for the father isn't in you
>>42344017You are autistic. How can I know this?You can't read between the lines. Did you honestly think "the world" refers to the planet?
>>42344208Didnt know the catholic church allowed orgies and general debauchery for christian souls, cool.
>>42339131God is a literal retard for believing that some beautiful things in nature can be used to justify forcing people to exist and suffer in his retarded hell-world especially when the beautiful things in the world are violently gatekept. God gets triggered if I even imagine beautiful things in my mind and murders people for going to these sorts of places in real life. God is so absolutely disgusting and stupid for believing that the things he creates for himself and rich people's enjoyment somehow make it justifiable to torture people here for eternity. He literally believes that if even a single person enjoys life in this world then that justifies forcing everyone else to exist because he believes he can just call them jealous of the person who enjoys existence and he believes that will invalidate all of their unhappiness, and because of this he believes his favored people should be allowed to abuse others as much as they want. and that most people should have good things violently gatekept from them to maximize the satisfaction of his favored people with their lives, and so that he can maximize his own satisfaction by self-identifying with them, and so that he can shift blame to them for his sadism by getting them to join in on it.This picture is so unbelievably stupid. God literally says things like "peasants don't deserve beautiful things" then posts shit like this when he knows he would literally murder the kinds of people who are unhappy with their shit lives if they went to a place like that. God is so retarded and disgusting and delusional
>>42344229Stop being passive aggressive like a fairy and speak straight
>>42339131you're jewish, LMAO
>>42339131the demiurge might not even be evil,but he certainly isn't the one true god.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds&ra=m
>>42344208>You are autistic. How can I know this?>You can't read between the lines.Anon it's not autism. The majority of humanity struggles with these concepts. Everyone who is saved by Christ was at one time lost. Nobody is born understanding everything, we are fallen beings in a fallen realm. When you are aware it's easy to point at everyone and just call them autistic. And to be fair many people are and they can't grasp certain kinds of humor or sarcasm or irony.
>>42344456>Anon it's not autism.its reading comprehension or lack of it
>>42344312I'm just saying sex is cool, chill, ugh.
>>42344017>>42344470When Christ explains that clinging to the world (loving it) will separate you from God (who is above the world) it makes perfect sense logically. But for people who are still spiritually lost, they can't understand it at all and it sounds ridiculous. That's just how it is, we as humans are basically retarded spiritually until we are saved. We struggle to grasp basic spiritual logic and plug our ears to the truth and mock it and act like it's ridiculous. Biblically these are the "scales over the eyes" which fall away when you become saved and enlightened.
>>42339131Yes, unironically.What's the point of a beautiful thing meant to keep the soul longing for material existence and thus unable to escape the cycle of reincarnation if it's not beautiful enough to induce that longing?There's plenty wonderful things and yes, they're managed by forces ambivalent and largely exploitative. Doesn't make them any less beautiful, you just have to be aware why they're there.They are also pale imitation of the splendour of divine.
>>42339131The demiurge created that and the female form to trick you into perpetuating the cycle
>>42344208No, I read well enough. Christian religion is world rejecting. Infact, Gnosticism, save for a few exceptions, is Christian The bible speaks of a fallen tenebrous world. And it is. But still, despite this, other religions, tend to worship nature. Whereas Christian larpers reject the world.
>>42339131Kek, gnosticism is for people who think they are too speshul to be atheist or Christian, i pray they grow out of this phase
>>42344656>Infact, Gnosticism, save for a few exceptions, is Christian It's more than that. What they called "gnosticism" (that word was btw a slur invented by grecoroman "heresiologists" who were writing propaganda to eliminate competition to their state-controlled cult) is actually what real, original, authentic Christianity was about. And after the Nag-Hammadi discovery there is basically no doubt about this, as the text of the "Gospel of Thomas" was proven to predate that of the 4 synoptic gospels (all later editions with a bunch of jewish shit added in).It was an ascetic, world-denying, monastic-like religion with a sectarian structure. Most likely a result of Essene, Mandean and Hermeticist philosophies converging. Later it also merged with Zoroastrianism which resulted in Manichaeism.As for the Cathars and Bohomilis - there is no real evidence of their direct relation to early "gnostics". Most likely they were either remnants of Marcionites (who rejected the OT), or just people seeing through the official catholic narrative's bullshit on their own.
Threads like this are so much fun!
>>42344709No, it wasnt one single movement. There was a plethora of different gnostics, and each had different beliefs. From the ascetic light worshipping, moral naasennes or sethians to the Satanic Antichristian Cainites, plus middle grounds.
>>423442481) God is smarter than you and is powerful enough to make anything happen or not happen.2) God is gooder than you.3) Since 1 and 2 are true, whatever happens to you is the best possible outcome.4) Suffering occurs when you do not know this and being wrong "argue with God" by not liking something, and so you suffer.
>>42344750>There was a plethora of different gnosticsExactly my point, as I said: "sectarian structure".>and each had different beliefsCertain practices and nuances were different, but the general line was the same.>to the Satanic Antichristian Cainites...that only existed in Epiphaneus's sexually frustrated imagination, chances are. Orgiastic cults were ofc always a thing within literally any religious framework, but that doesn't mean they should be counted as a legitimate variation thereof.
The creation/creator dichotomy is artificial; the universe is a creative process and all are co-creators. This can be sensed as the harmony in natural places, where a vast array of organisms and abiological entities and processes come together to form breathtaking tapestries.Picture was taken by me.
>>42344674You know, speaking of your official "christianity", the only group within it that is worth listening to about anything at all is monks. Monks, not "priests", not "theologians", not "pastors", not larping shills pretending to be monks while visiting monasteries once in a blue moon. Actual real monks, that live in monasteries or hermitaries 24/7/365 for many years. But boy oh boy you people don't like listening to those, as they say way too many inconvenient and scary things for your feeble semi-pagan minds to cope with. You would rather listen to some charismatic degenerate "pastor" who secretly fucks a bunch of women, or to a self-important "theologian" who is just an academic rat living life as mundane as yours - cos those will tell you exactly the sweet stupid things that you want to hear. Unlike monks.And yes - that's the problem with your entire belief system: it's inherently schizophrenic. You claim to believe the world to be corrupt and fallen, but at the same time you follow pretty much all the pagan precepts regarding living a mundane life. "Apocalypse is coming, all shall burn and be judged, btw don't forget to marry and reproduce and work your shitty job you peasant".Just make a choice already. If you love the world and "normal human things" so much you can't let go, then return to your original "pagan" spirituality. Cos at least it doesn't fucking contradict itself.And if not and things like transcending the mundane matter to you most, then stop coping and half-assing this with stupid demiurgic mumbojumbo.
>>42343984>create thing>do not claim responsibility for thingwhere have i heard this before
>>42344773>Suffering occurs when you do not know thisWhy doesnt God remove suffering by making sure everyone knows this?Is God unwilling, or unable?
>>42339131Built for hundreds of indians to take a shit and wash their clothes.
>>42339131Your image is fake and not of a real place. Literally the demiurge created that image. God created the actual world. But all perception of the world that is overlayed the real, but is itself not real, is the creation of the demiurge. You fall for the demiurge when you conflate false images of the world, with the world. Checkmate, fag.
>>42344864>Apocalypse is coming, all shall burn and be judged, btw don't forget to marry and reproduce and work your shitty job you peasant".Same old delusion for thousands of years. Every year this false prophecy is spoken and every year its a lie. The delusions of St Paul and John of Patmos, dead jewish schizophrenics.The deluded christians constantly decieve their followers about this, *every single year*, and are rightfully met with ridicule. More and more people are wising up to this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Christian_religious_predictionsThe historical record proves that religious prophets of doom are deluded.
>>42345064For thousands of years, delusional abrahamists have vainly repeated this deception by appealing to the meaningless stories written by jews. When something is that consistently wrong, accept that they are not infallible. Abrahamic mass psychosis. St Paul admitted he was a dishonest piece of shit. When someone plainly tells you he is a liar, perhaps you should disregard everything he ever wrote.>hey gentiles le world is going to end, give us your money!Wikipedia is a more reliable historical record than a book written by dead people. The historical record proves that christian end times prophecies are always false.
>>42345099>bro we totally gonna fly up into the sky to meet KANG JESUSyou would suffocateOdds are paul discovered how to astral project, but I do not regard astral projection as 100% reliablePeople see all kinds of not provable things when they astral project
>>42343984>I le call le boolshite laddieLe no one care le tardmuffin
>>42339131Take it, take it all... https://youtu.be/4OWl5nTctYI?si=MDy7-ng4Hz6sUeLT
>>42344773God is a retarded tranny, he is only "smarter than me" in the sense that he possesses a "divine intellect" that's separate from his retarded childish sadistic tranny personality, his "mechanical intelligence" isn't the same as his "ego-personality" and intelligence isn't even a good argument for goodness in the first place, there is no correlation between intelligence and intellect, being "smart" wouldn't make God more likely to be good even if he were. God is absolutely not "gooder than me" and he demonstrates this constantly all day every day that he's a retarded evil sadistic tranny, God forces me to exist as the sole frame of reference for material reality and only persistently real person in the world so that he can abuse me through everyone else who he controls as a retarded tranny hivemind, there is no argument that can be made that this is the "best possible outcome", this is close to the worst possible outcome, my life could get worse in specific material ways but on a structural level this is literally the "worst possible world" for me, designed to be an inescapable hell that only exists so that God can abuse and dominate me through other people for his sadistic satisfaction.This brings us back to your first point also, if God was "smarter than me" he would know how retarded it is for him to try to argue that my life is good when he abuses me every day, or especially that its the "best possible outcome", if I can imagine even a single "better outcome" in my life then he's just exposing himself as a retarded liar, and its not even remotely difficult to imagine ways my life could be better. If God was "smarter than me" he wouldn't have made your retarded post telling retarded obvious lies in the first place
>>42339131Or maybe this realm was slowly turned into a prison over the time until we got where we are
>>42344790They werent orgiastic, they were evil as in deliberate sin to liberate the Spirit.
>>42339131The irony. Your image is fake, Sherlock. You could not even bother to post a real image of the fucking Earth? Lazy, bum.
>>42339135>The long-term recovery outcomes for Wallenberg syndrome are generally positive, with most patients achieving functional independence within a yearI hope you will recover quickly anon. I pray for you.
>>42339135kek, christfags who can't explain why their "good and omnipotent god" would just give you such a terrible fate are seething at you and getting cynic in the replies. but hey "god moves in mysterious ways" so you have no right questioning him and what he did to you was totally justified, alright? i hate christfags so much it's unreal.
>>42339135>>42339154Don't do thisJust let go and be free of pain and life all togetherYou will transcend
>>42350296It's a non-fixed deficit. If the muscles are too loose it causes issues, too tight it causes issues. If I immobilize the lower lumbar and then put it into flexion (leaning up against a short wall eg) then that intensifies visual snow and creates drowsiness, probably because it pinches the brainstem or something. It's possible I have an aneurym pressing on something or an implant, I don't know. I tried to figure it out from 17 to 22 and am over 30 now.Thank you for your prayers.>>42350359Strawman.>>42350388Definitely thought about and longed for it. The end would bring relief. When people say "life is suffering" they have no idea. Checked.
>>42339135well the demiurge didn't do that to me, in fact he gave me a big ass dick, guess it sucks to suck
>>42351080>big ass dickApparenty he also made your subconscious a faggot.
>>42350978>Strawmanok, got it, so you were just larping about your illness then. hope you catch it for real, so my argument won't be a strawman anymore :)
>>42351295Sorry, I didn't read your reply thoroughly. I thought you were asserting that I was a christian and then making funny of me for having bad thing happen despite good god.
>>42344343His mother is both more good and more evil because she is more aware. The demiurge is simply blind.
>>42339154Enjoy hell or any other low vibrational realms, shlomo
The New Jerusalem will be the new heaven and a new universe will be created by God at the end of times after Jesus has ruled the earth after his return after the final defeat of Satan there will be no sin everything will be perfect there will be no death or evil we will all be happy holy and pure
>>42339131You retards never go Into detail what "nature" truly is. Show us the animals being eaten alive and the predatory shit that goes on. Yeah just nitpick the good parts.
>>42339131If your retard god was so good then he'd give this dude: >>42339135The ability to heal his own body but didn't.
>>42339131Wow, a waterfall. I guess the constant unfathomable pain and suffering that is taking place at every single moment is fine now. Retard.
