Spiritual veganism.I just think its unspiritual to be unvegan, or to at least make an effort not engage in your practice of vampirism. Animals suffer. Animals are conscious. You can feel their pain if you have psychic powers. Especially with cows, you can feel they are sad, and unhappy.Cows are such gentle creatures. Cows are herbivorous. We predate upon the herbivorous. We predate upon the innocent. This is not part of a positive attunement. This is part of a negative spiritual attunement.The competition. The exploitation. The feasting upon the flesh of others. These are part of the spiritual darkside.I cry for the pain of cows and pigs in particular. Because they are such highly emotional animals, and their emotional natures are neurologically indisputable.In Hinduism cows are considered sacred. Possibly due to their gentleness. I do not think man should feast on cow. I think this is a spiritual illness. Or anything other which is sentient. I think this is the spiritual inversion of what we're supposed to strive for on this planet.Do you know, even if you're not fully vegan, maintaining only a lacto-ovo-vegetarianism diet (only dairy and eggs) is very healthy and simple? Because those foods are very nutritionally dense? And when you do this, you save many, many animals from pain and suffering. Fewer units of pain in the world overall makes our whole world brighter, IMO.I do think theres a massive push for meateating behavior from loosh vampires, too. Too many people who hold power in the west quite literally feed off of the pain of other living things, and our factoryfarm-meateater culture is part of them mining loosh.
I agree but i shall continue eating cooked flesh while knowing what I'm doing to the nephesh of the world in a cacaphony of mourning, surrender and delight. I just cam't help myself! haha
would have been a better thread if you left out the hindu bullshit
>>42339481>I do think theres a massive push for meateating behavior from loosh vampires, too.This, 100%. Meat eating, especially the carnivore diet always vibes to me as demonic or at least ghoulish/reptilian. Like they say humans are carnivores, we we are quite clearly no, at most omnivores that do better on a vegan diet.
I've literally never seen a healthy looking vegan.Their skin loses its color, their hair turns brittle, their teeth fall out, and they die of malnutrition after a few years.I understand veganism from a moral point of view, but from a practical point of view the human body needs animal fat and protein to survive.
>>42339481Cows are not unhappy. They are represented by taurus in astrology. They represent complacency, living the good life and a fated demise for being that way. They are actually very happy because they are being given everything for free, too happy.If you give yourself the feeling of complacency you can feel this cow energy for yourself. It's not something foreign. It's actually unspiritual to be vegan because you're not viewing the bigger picture for why the energy of cows exist. They are fated to be like that.You're just regurgitating libtard propaganda that hasn't been thought through.
I think you guys would like this book then
>>42339598Make sure to read it over a nice delicious mcdonalds burger meal.
>>42339573You, too are not unhappy with being abused and/or made into food, and the 'libtard propaganda' is, too, part of the bigger picture.
I think the dairy industry is almost more cruel than the meat industry. Cows are forced to birth calves which are then discarded. Same for male chicks in the egg industry
>>42339706I can feel your brain struggling to understand anything. One brain cell that only understands pain like a nigger.
>>42339573>This entire comment.Have you ever heard of the term "R A T I O N A L I Z A T I O N S"? People like you are famous for them. People in rightwing politics are famous for them. No, the cows in our farm system are demonstrably miserable, and believing the murder or rape of an animal is "moral" because of some hamfisted reason which merely makes no meaningful sense, is fucking psychopathic.I hate the fucking hamfisted rationalizations rightwingers make up for every fucked up thing they do. They make no sense. Nothing you wrote, even if it was true, which it demonstrably is not, randomly justifies the murder and rape of these innocent animals. Fucking monster (and I'm not even calling you that for eating meat, but rather your fucked up false rationalizations)
>>42339900>muh feeeeeeeeeeeeelingsThis is why troons exist because you're too retarded to know anything. Same rationalization.
>>42339900are you one of those weirdos that even leftists can't stand because you bring up veganism every two seconds? seems like it
>>42339714high-yield & disease-resistant agriculture proves that modern humans and their societies run on the suffering of others since we have already achieved a hunger free world. We are now in the Suffering and Gluttony maxx cycle where life itself has reached the value of net -1. Where even expired rotten corpses are seen as a burden.
>>42339481>In Hinduism cows are considered sacredand how is that working out for them ?
i agree whole heartedly and i'll say what everyone with anything negative to say about meat eating cannot summon the courage to say; meat tastes good. that is it, that's their whole justification, and they can't give up their temporary pleasure in exchange for hours of torture, they suck and that's ok. we are in hell. there's gonna be people who earned their spot here, here. they wont ever admit it but they're weak, just as i am. but i don't have an ego to defend. killing and eating animals is inherently wrong. i plan to stop when i can afford it and when i gather the strength. if any of you ever want to leave this planet, i suggest you do the same. but instead, you're gonna smoke your hopium and perform olympic gold winning mental gymnastics to justify your shitty ways. i dont pity you, you do this to yourself. dont take pleasure from pain of beings that feel pain and fear. just like you do.
We don't want your cancer slop. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/healthy-diet-higher-lung-cancer-risk-deciphering-surprising-link-study-pesticides-contraceptives
>>42340160>thinks everything happens by accident and there is no fate>thinks meat tastes good by accident>thinks farms are a random accident >thinks they don't want to be eaten because.... just because okay!hylic
>>42339598I think you would like this book then as well
>>42340160Also you're clearly samefagging yourself but with bad grammar now. Pathetic that you had to step that low, troon.
>>42339481Im a vegetarian except I cheat once a month. I think getting people to eat meat only once a week is the way to go. People would save $ and could reasonably buy ethically raised meat. Looking to Hinduism may not be great as their large dairy industry creates a lot of animals suffering, poor environment and death. If people are meat only once a week you could still have a functional dairy industry that could be more humane.The spiritual consequences, I think, would involve a better connection to oneness resulting in better ability to do things like remote view.
>>42339481You are right. Except perhaps when you say you think meat eating is the spiritual inversion of what we are supposed to strive for on this planet. On this planet, we are supposed to create suffering. Toward ourselves, each other, and other living beings. If not, how will the demiurge or the archons feed? They need loosh. That said, we are more than what the demiurge planned for us, and for every other living being.
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>>42340458>Im a vegetarian except I cheat once a monthSo you are not vegetarian then, lol!!! You are a flexitarian.Also, dairy livestock abuse is worldwide.
>>42339481Are these threads some kind of Indian government/relgious NGO outreach or something? The threads are always a shitshow and it’s always just 2 or 3 vegans agreeing on a moral basis while everyone else [rightfully] shuts on it for a health basis. It is 100% impossible to convince me that a diet dependent on mass produced vitamin supplements is even remotely healthy, let alone a natural state, let alone a state of spiritual prominence. I think it’s some weird outreach program because the OPs make the same threads with the same arguments every time, knowing in advance that it will happen exactly that same way every time>Indian men have a lower average grip strength than Caucasian WOMEN because of dumbass ideas like this“I can’t out lift a fucking woman but at least I’m spiritually pure!” Cope.
>>42342773there is a troon/furry that comes here to samefag his reddit threadsyou can tell it's him because he makes 100s of threads about muh empathy!!!!!!
>>42342773>It is 100% impossible to convince me that a diet dependent on mass produced vitamin supplements is even remotely healthy, let alone a natural state, let alone a state of spiritual prominenceThing is...this is bs. Just eat a variety of different veggies and fruits and you will be fine. Also, many nonvegans, even nonvegetarian, take many vitamins. It is not like the omnivores diet makes you immune to nutritional issues.And even if it were true that vegan diet is unhealthy, it dies not make it spiritually bad. If say killing children was needed to survive fie whatever reason and stopping was harmful to the one doing this, would it make it moral to kill the children? No, it would not. Understandable, sure, but not okay.
>>42343338Okay so you can get by on veggies but end up with weaker grip strength than untrained women. Far from ideal. Far from even healthy, for grown men to get out gripped by untrained white women.>And even if it were true that vegan diet is unhealthy, it dies not make it spiritually bad.Yes it does. A sound soul dwells in a sound body and a sound mind.We’re done here, though. You just want this path because it’s easy. It requires only inaction. -not- eating meat.
Factory farming can be gradually replaced by precision agriculture. Meat grown without animal slaughter. Eventually you could 3d print a steak.
>>42343364>Okay so you can get by on veggies but end up with weaker grip strength than untrained women. Far from ideal. Far from even healthy, for grown men to get out gripped by untrained white women.What is this meme about Indian and white girl grip strength?>Yes it does. A sound soul dwells in a sound body and a sound mind.And a vegan diet will give you a sound body.Also, is rape and murder good because it might give you a sound mind after indulging in your urges?
>>42339655>delicious >mcdonalds JFl
>>42339481I can at least share my own experience I guess.I haven't eaten mammal/bird meat since like 2012. My main reasons are simple: I don't want to eat anything that I wouldn't be morally able to procure myself, even I had the means and the know-how. For example, I've had experience growing and tending to various plants, so naturally I'm fine consuming fruits/veggies/herbs. I could milk a cow - kind of disgusting dealing with animals (smelly organic matter etc), but if I had to I would, so I have no problems using dairy products. Same about raising chickens for unfertilized eggs. Now, I rarely eat seafood and mostly only when in company, but if I was facing starvation I might resort to fishing - killing fish feels kinda bad, but not too bad, and filleting it is ofc disgusting but I believe I could've managed. But what I definitely wouldn't be able to do is approach a bird or a mammal and murder it in cold blood, nor would I be able to process the resulting corpse cos it is super fucking disgusting. Therefore, no meat/poultry for me (tho to be fair I never enjoyed it even back when I was made to consume it).I could ofc bring up possible spiritual reasons, but I think at least in my case it would be superfluous and humblebraggy, so I'll pass on that.Also, I don't believe in any form of political veganism - human society will never abandon meat. Mostly cos a lot of different entities are incarnated as humans, some of them being deeply predatory by their nature. You cannot force everyone follow your code. So don't worry about some general "humanity" (it's a spook), focus on yourself and yours.
>>42343599It’s not a meme, you retarded motherfucker. You could look it up but it ruins your argument. If you google it, you will get the information summarized in the image of this post here >>42342773A vegan diet will NOT give you a sound body. Now you just know you’re fucking wrong.Being weak is not a virtue. Stop being retarded.
>>42343780It really is like some Indians have a genetic desire to race to the bottom caste of everything they see>no we will NOT eat the proper diet>yes we WILL be weak>no, there is not ANY reasoning with us>also it IS superior to do this and remain this way>Even though all of India has literally nothing to show for all that enlightenment and vegan progress
>>42343780>>42343806Not trying to defend pajeets, their current culture is garbage.But you guys are also mistaken and there will be a time when you realize it and your only realistic response will be to cry "unfair".Not gonna explain further cos you'll call it cope regardless, so let time be the judge of all.
>>42339481>veganism and vegetarianism means NO SEX with angels or demons, ie meat and honey, IE bees.you're a antisocial loser if you're a vegan sorry to be boring, i just figured id get straight to the point. it means talking a girls ear off about supernatural junk all dayetc etc [redacted] >says less
>>42343837>One believeth that he may eat of all things: and another, which is weak, eateth herbs.Romans 14:2
>>42343843lol
>>42342743>dairy livestock abuse is worldwideGenetic engineering could make a cow that produces milk without getting pregnant. Ironically, it may never happen because you can't market it to vegans/vegetarians due to most of them not trusting GMO.
>>42339481Its not about meat. Locally grown fresh picked non gmo plants taste better than meat. Organic dairy tastes better than meat. They just need to stop stripping the topsoil and using retarded farming techniques that make food taste like nothing or chemicals.
Tempeh is fucking delicious, guys. It's got a smooth nutty flavor. Its got some saturated fats in it and its got high levels of highly bioavailable protein.Beyond that, you don't want to be a vegan because you think the diet is unpractical? Well, there's no genuine medical reason to think that but fine. No point in arguing about it. Here is what I would suggest instead: Become a vegetarian.Vegetarianism is 1 of the most delicious and nutritious diets. You basically get to pig out on cheese and eggs every day without having to worry about cholesterol because you're not eating any meat. You can eat at whatever restaurants becuz everywhere has pizza or nachos or a bunch of other things and its awesome.I feel like theres no reason for people NOT to be vegetarian and when youre vegetarian you are drastically, and I do mean drastically, lowering your footprint in terms of what number of animals youre ultimately consuming
And also wanna know who CONSISTENTLY has the longest life expectancies between carnists, omnivores, vegans and vegetarians? Its the vegetarians. Though the reason they beat vegans is probably because the diet requires specific nutritional supplements which some people just do not take out of pure foolishness (like myself when I first became a vegan many years back and eventually did not feel well)
>>42340458>Im a vegetarian except I cheat once a monthSo you MURDER an animal once a month. Joking that's something a vegan activist would say. IMO the best is the enemy of the good. Vegans who aggressively push everybody to a strict vegan diet, in reality push people away from eating less meat.
>>42339481>I just think
>>42345515Youre gay. Carnivores are noted in the animal kingdom for practicing regular bisexuality and this is a trait which is aberant in herbivores.
>>42343818>I have a point but I won’t say itNo you fucking don’t.
>>42339481Youre literally advocating for veganism while posting cute domesticated cowsA real vegan would've posted an ugly wild cow
>>42345676My point is you think raw physical strength is an end to all. There will be a time when you are bitterly proven wrong and you won't like it. Now go ahead and call it cope. Like I said: time will be the judge of it.
>>42346429>you think raw physical strength is an end to allNo I don’t. I’m just saying that physical attributes alone render veganism fucking retarded such that the spiritual discussion is irrelevant. You can nebulously threaten shit in the future but when it goes down and the lights go out, it will not be your faggy ideals about meat that help you out. Nor will it be your misguided attempt at an easy enlightenment. We will indeed see.
>>42339573We could debate all night whether a meat diet is better, or whether it's a natural and spiritual cycle, but, our food industry is a hellscape. Its not uncommon for people in the industry, like butchers, to visit an abattoir or factory farm and be horrified at the way they are treated and end up quitting their jobs over it and even stop eating meat altogether.The issue isn’t whether animals like cows are “meant” to be food, or whether they have in some way spirituality accepted it. The issue is that the system we actually have is built on suffering. A cow didn't evolve to be confined in a small space, separated from it's kin, bred in order to produce milk and then have their offspring immediately taken away, pumped full of drugs and slaughtered on a conveyor belt. factory farming and modern agriculture are cruel and exploitative. This food we enjoy eating is not from nature, but from a system of suffering. It's an inconvenient truth.
>>42346469And so in rebellion we should diminish ourselves to weakness?Brilliant fucking keikaku
>>42346440>I’m just saying that physical attributes alone render veganism fucking retarded such that the spiritual discussion is irrelevant.That's retarded. Physical prowess has nothing to do with spirituality, even if veganism was an issue physically.Clearly your diet is destroying your ability to reason.
>>42346495>Physical prowess has nothing to do with spiritualityYou fucking wish. Even dumbass vegan yogic traditions acknowledge this. Of course, yogic traditions ignore strength for the most part but they DO acknowledge the distinct connection between physical and spiritual. There’s no culture on earth that views spirituality as divorced from the physical.Fucking cope.
>>42346485no. how about maybe we change our ways instead? Improve the system. why did you assume that's what I meant ? I did not say, "therefore we should lie down and wither away" did I? I said the system is the problem. So it's implied that fixing the system is the solution. I am genuinely curious why you said that. a difference of opinion should not mean we should immediately paint the other as inept. You don't even know if If I eat meat or not. Maybe I live off my own raised animals, maybe I live off hamburgers and occasionally think hmm maybe this isn't good. Maybe I'm vegan. (I'm not). My point is maybe don't label everyone as an idiot if they don't fully agree.
I've been vegetarian since march 17.
>>42345271WHY YOU LAUGH!?!? https://open.spotify.com/track/38KUOtXulnQmigscma1lpg?si=8e07bbeb29e24f7c
>>42346503>they DO acknowledge the distinct connection between physical and spiritual.Wrong. All faiths acknowledge the separation, and the trap of the physical, you mean.
